How to solve the american problem

>>41411054
You are talking 70% of the population. And research shows about half the time they don't even realize they are overweight.
And I don't think the Japan tax is quite what you think.

>>41411063
let's have a mandatory test, every two months at the workplace then.

we should ship fat people to syria or africa

>>41411090
To help them lose weight or feed the africans?

>>41411054

Wow. That's fucking retarded.

>>41411096
both

>>41411099
t. american

>>41411054
Maybe understanding that fat people tend to get fatter when they are stressed and under pressure might help

>>41411054
tax/regulate the addition of sugar/ corn syrup to food

proper nutrition and exercise guidelines taught in high school

change sales tax to be inversely proportional to the caloric density of food. Making vegetables cheaper and junk food more expensive, while averaging out to be the same across all food stuffs.

>>41411126
more money for the state

>>41411054
nice try commie
>inb4 ameritard
I'm not

>>41411054
>Fat tax
This has been tried multiple times already and keeps getting voted down not only by representatives but also when put to the public in propositions, eg in CA.

>In 2009, the Obama Administration explored levying an excise tax on sweetened beverages as part of health care reform efforts, but the proposal was abandoned after heavy lobbying by the beverage industry.
>In 2010, New York State considered a soda tax, however opposition from the soda industry and economists made a strong antitax campaign, spending at least double of the tax supporters, so the plan failed.
>In 2012, the City Council of Richmond, California placed the soda tax on the November 2012 ballot along with an advisory measure asking voters how they would like to spend the tax revenue.[89] This proposal was rejected by the voters with 67% NO 33% YES.

People really like their shit food

>>41411054
>Fat tax
Japan has a 2.8% unemployment rate. The US has 4.4. You want to know who is making up the majority of fat people? Hint: it's not people that are wealthy. You think this will be a deterrent, but it will literally just create further government leeches as people seek untaxable income through social benefits. There's a huge cultural and economic difference that needs to be considered before thinking taking people's money away will do something.


>Socialised gyms
>This will ensure that everyone, young and old, can afford exercising, and hopefully make less people take steroids or other substances to avoid the fat tax.
You know how many people pay for a gym membership and just don't go? Having the taxpayers provide a gym won't ensure people going, and it sure as shit won't prevent people from roiding.

>Add regulations to make sure unhealthy food is harder to afford. Sell more varied and unique healthy food, so that people won't get tired of it. And also ban soda and low quality fast food chains like mcdonalds
Go to an American grocery store. It's got a good variety of fruit, veg and healthy meats. And people who know how to shop know that these items are ultimately cheaper than processed crap. The reason the other foods are purchased is convenience/laziness as well as lack of education in shit like cooking and food prep. Banning foods outright just denies it to those who can easily consume it in moderation and who do have a sense of self-control.

The problem is much more complicated than your high school level thinking of "taxes and bans, bro"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fISgKl8dB3M

>>41411126
Wow, I wonder what must be making their lives so stressful.
Maybe if they were attractive and capable of walking up stairs without feeling ill, there would be less pressure for them to eat more.

Fuck off with your fat acceptance bullshit, trying to blame anything but the fat fucks for their own condition.

What if we make our sticky more popular? Like, post it everywhere on social media. It's pretty convincing

>stop fucking fat chicks
here problem solved, if they will not breed, they will die out eventually

>>41411054
>make trash food more expensive and good food more accessible
>Add regulations to make sure unhealthy food is harder to afford.
evwrything but this
at that point you're just penalizing everyone, not just your target. also there's no need for high expenses, just educate people on how to fucking live properly.

Strip fat people of citizenship and remove them.

>muh taxes and social programs

Never work. Just remove them from the country.

>>41411203
i sent the sticky to my gf and she said its too much reading for her.

>>41411145
nothing wrong with shit food, people can eat what they want.
the problem lies in the people who eat shit food, self-control, self-dicipline and education

>>41411145
>People really like their shit food
This happens because American politics is dominated by lobbyists, in any actual democracy it would have been very different

>>41411223
we could drain their money instead of them draining us

>>41411228
When almost 70% of the population is considered clinically obese, there is a problem with shit food and people clearly aren't capable of making good decisions about what they eat. It's situations like this where regulation is needed to protect people from themselves.

>inb4 triggered libertarians

>>41411224
Kek looks like your gf is not gonna make it

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>>41411242
Forgot my image
>Almost 3 in 4 men are considered to be obese

>>41411228
give me ONE reason coca cola shouldnt be banished from the earth forever. food like juice and buns are although unhealthy, decent food for certain occasions if you know what i mean

>>41411253
because there is no better cheat meal than a coke and a good burger.

I wouldn't mind much though

>>41411249
>considered overweight OR obese
Your retarded reading comprehension doesn't help your cause. I hate fat fucks as much as the next /fit/izen, but your illiterate, autistic fascism is just tedious and edgy

>>41411242
good. weed out the weak

>>41411253
because it's not the coke's fault people are fucking retarded. the only one to blame is themself

Honestly none of these ideas would ever work in our current situation. A tax on people who already get govt handouts doesn't really do anything. Making a gym membership mandatory just means even more people will buy a Planet Fitness membership and then never go. And increasing the price of already more expensive junk food will only ruin the experience for people who consume in moderation. And don't forget that corporations have full control of a lot of politicians so they'd lobby the fuck out opposing taxes as one anon pointed out already.
The only thing that may work is having an increased focus on Health in school. Making an exercise and diet class mandatory as a college gen ed would ensure people understand. I'm sure it varies depending on the area but increasing Health and PE classes from 2 to 4 years in high school would also help. Although, other than attempting to educate people I can't really think of anything that could potentially help. As someone else said we're so far into this shit that some people don't even realize they're fat. They look "average", which is fat to obese in our population.

>>41411275
with socialised gyms i meant the state pays for the gym, so that its free to go there.

>>41411298
Again, it's so easy to have a gym membership that a lot of fat people do have one. They just don't use it. If anything, taking away the cost is removing some incentive since they have no direct stake in not going

>>41411298
>socialized = free

t. Bernie Sanders 12 year old kid

I would love to see the nastiness that would be a gym open to the public without membership requirements.

Here's a pro tip: it'd be a hell hole full of homeless people just hiding from the cold.

>>41411316
>socialism = bernie xD
just have state gyms, and private gyms. and have people in the state gyms who make sure people there exercise properly.

>>41411242

Regulation would just lead to regulatory capture by corporation during the legislation process. Grain industry would push to ban animal products. Meat and dairy industry would push to ban grain. It would just be the same research war going in right now and some awful ineffective costly legislation would get pushed through and make no difference.

You can't fix an obesity epidemic through democracy when 70% of adults are overweight. Welcome to tyranny of the majority. You have to secede or have a revolution and make a constitutional fitness requirement in a new nation. A simple clause would be any man not fit for physical combat would lose citizenship. You could even distinctly define the terms (18+% BF for men and 26+% bf for women are excluded).

You CANNOT fix our current problems through the standard legislation process. Don't be delusional.

>>41411340
Would literally just be filled to the brim with the homeless. And would be crumbling cesspits that run at 5x operating cost of private gyms (like all govt programs).

Why force people to do something they don't want instead of just stripping citizenship? Allow slection to take place so we stop passing these genes.

>>41411275
>>41411312
I think the free gym idea is stupid and wouldn't work, but it would relatively cheap compared to the return cost in health IF it did work.

Alternatively spend the same money on cleaning up/creating parks with playgrounds. There is a park near me that has pull up bars and body-weight workout equipment with directions on how to use it. Mostly used by old people, but I like the idea of bringing your kids to a park and while they are playing and getting exercise, you can work out to some degree.
Then again actively promoting something like that would end up with a bunch of obese NEETs 'trying' to lose weight 25 feet from a playground, so I dunno man

It wouldn't end the obesity epidemic, no singular idea will, but a bunch of small changes like that that could potentially add up for the better I think.

>>41411054
Here's a "lolbertarian" answer

Get rid of socialized medicine and unchain health insurance from employers.

The more fit you are the less expensive your premium will cost because you will be a low risk for your insurer. Want to be fat? That's fine but you'll end up paying out the ass because you're an increased risk.

>>41411298
The vast majority of weight control comes from diet

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>>41411126
Fatty Detected

>>41411054

No thanks, I don't want any more people getting the motivation to lift. My gym is crowded enough, no thanks. Fatties stay fat so I can keep my superiority.

>>41411054
America has poor healthcare, shitty education, and the food industry can pretty much get away with anything.

Fix healthcare and education, get truth out about the dangers of consuming too much sugar, and that will solve the problem. But none of that stuff will ever happen, so it's fucked.

>>41411385
That wouldn't just raise premiums on fat people, but also people with pre-existing conditions, old people, and probably women.

>inb4 that would be a good thing

>>41411151
This, plus OP is not considering the effects of these taxes on the macroeconomics

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>>41411385
Still doesn't work. Insurance group pool everyone together because classification of clients is expensive. It's easy when a small group is obese. It gets hard when 70% of people are overweight. They make more money charging everyone $500/mo (fit people using basically nothing and fats using thousands per month ok average in windfall events like emergency room trips) than charging fit people $50/mo and fats a premium that they literally cannot afford (their actual cost).

>revolution
>constitutional fitness clause

It's the only way

>believing the current governmental system can fix this problem

Too fucking kek. Stay delusional

>>41411418
>That wouldn't just raise premiums on fat people, but also people with pre-existing conditions, old people, and probably women.

We'd probably have to go through a transition phase, but ideally you'd buy your insurance when you're young.

Something like that is going to happen one way or the other because it's mathematically inevitable. Entitlement programs are bankrupting us.

>>41411424
While I welcome the idea of a society based around a social obligation towards health, Could we win a civil war against the fats?
Even though we have the strength and stamina advantage, and lower resource cost, fit people are vastly outnumbered.

Maybe a cultural war would fair better.
We get loud, and visible, just like HAES does. Get our doctrine and the information needed to actually get fit in to the hands of as many people as possible.
And the hardest part for a lot of you, go back to "no fat chicks", and stop enabling fat bitches delusions of being attractive by using them as a cock holster.

>>41411424
What I said is what needs to be done, but it will not ever get done because the sick, fat, poor, and stupid are allowed to vote.

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>>41411054
>fat tax
How do you enforce that? 300 million extra doctors appointments are year isn't feasible. Paying for these appointments alone would be more than the tax could ever generate

>socialized gyms
Again, almost no first world countries have these for the same reason you don't see public basketball courts or soccer fields in A league shape.
>make fast food more expensive
Australia already taxes tabbaco and fast food imports. Just another reason we're better than you fat cunts

>>41411345
This is such a quintessentially American response
>It couldn't work here therefore it can't work anywhere

It's already in place in numerous developed economies and showing good results.

>Hungary's tax, which came into effect in September 2011, has seen 22% of people reduce energy drink consumption and 19% of people reduce their intake of sugary-sweetened soft-drinks.
>In September 2013, Mexican president Enrique Peña Nieto, on his fiscal bill package, proposed a 10% per liter tax on all soft drinks, especially carbonated drinks... According to a 2016 study published in BMJ, annual sales of sodas in Mexico declined 6% in 2014 after the introduction of the soda tax...
>Japan implemented the 'metabo' law which included the measurement of waist sizes in 2008 in attempt to overcome increasing obesity rates.

Not every country is rife with regulatory capture and plenty of governments serve their purpose as the counterweight to businesses, instead of wantonly appeasing them to the detriment of the healthy of the citizenry

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>implying fat people pay taxes with their hard earned money
>wasting tax payer's money on additional taxes

>>41411604
>tax shitty food
problem solved

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>>41411054
Where in tarnation do you see support for this?

>Implying Mcdonalds, the most profitable fast food company every year (with revenues of 25b a year) won't lobby against this)

>>41411054
>Fat tax
>The fatter you are (High BMI

So a gains tax

>Socialised gyms

Oh goodie, more normies clogging up space and doing dumb shit.


>make trash food more expensive and good food more accessible

Good bye bulking!

>>41411240
I bet you contribute fucking nothing yourself

>>41411054
Just nuke it

Nobody in this thread knows what they're talking about

>>41411653
Do you?

>>41411096
vastly underrated

I always said that everyone should be free to smoke or to be fat. But if you do, than you pay double the taxes

>>41411738
King Nigger already sort of did this through his healthcare bill. Smoking was the only thing insurers could charge more for, and no subsidy was allowed.

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>>41411275
I must agree with your sentiments, none of the proposed would work with our current welfare state. Socialized gyms would be like another mandate on Obama care, and as only 52% of Americans are paying taxes there aren't any incentives for land whale welfare queens to start paying now (not to mention getting fit). Everyone would be unhappy, democrats would call the tax discriminatory and republicans would claim it's taxation without representation (asking them to pay for shit they never wanted or voted for).

A method that would work however, would be a fat tax on transportation. A 60 pound child cost less to transport than a 300 pound man no matter the method. If every form of public transit, ie busses, lightrails, trolleys and trains had a scale that determined determines the price of the trip, everyone would be charged according to how much they were costing. It would be absolutely fair, as the choices a person makes when it comes to their body are reflected in how much they are charged. This of course would work well for private sectors such as airlines as well.

Now I must mention, there probably should be a form of subsidy for the severely physically impaired. If you need a power chair to move about, and you weigh 80 pounds and the chair weighs 200, I wouldn't want the poor gimp to pay the price for a 280 pound individual..but I suppose disability funds are already allotted to citizens by the state.
This system wouldn't be perfect, and each state would have to pay close attention to voter response, but it would be a great start in my humble opinion. It's important to allow for Americans to choose their lifestyles, even if it is distasteful to us-- And the rest of us shouldn't be forced to pay for the decisions of others.

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lol at these pussy ass market liberal reforms. Think of all the woman privilege a fat bitch already is losing by not putting down the fork, you think its a rational decision? You think your little bowtie wearing queerball 5% fat tax is going to matter her when already being an INVISABLE SOCIAL NON-ENTITY and UNIVERSAL BUTT OF ALL JOKES already does shit?

Here is what is necessary
1. Criminalize professional sports, make amateur sports mandatory. Some things only should be done for love (which is what it means to be an amateur) such as sex, sport, and patriotic violence as a member of armed forces, not for money. Sport should be localized and moresso, parochial. The green bay packers should be from friggin greenbay, not a bunch of mercenaries from southron corn factories-universities.

2. Abolish restaurants. All single men and women must eat in the communal barracks. You will eat your beetsoup with whey food-drink and like it, tovarisch. No second helpings for fatties.

3. Patriotic singing cadres. Too many depressed people. Plus its a sign of a sick society when like 70% of men and 50% of women cannot sing.

4. Periodic famines / nationwide intermittent fasting.

AMERICA will be AESTHETIC AGAIN, COMRADES!

>>41411275
>increasing Health and PE classes from 2 to 4 years in high school would also help.

This is already mandatory in high school but we should put one in middle and elementary too. Also, bring back PE. I remember when I was in middle school our school stopped doing PE because our retarded principle said it distracted kids from "learning." It's no fucking shit we're churning little fatties out literally making them sit for 9 hours a day with no breaks other than a 20 minute lunch in the period of our lives where we're supposed to be exercising for 1-2 hours a day. No PE because it's less time for them to memorize shit for some bullshit standardized test. Bring back PE and those classes where you learn how to cook is really our only options.

Firstly this would require socialized medicine, since people would have to get a government sanctioned weight (they can't self report)

and as for having a fat tax on say, transportation, how are you going to weigh people? are there scales EVERYWHERE? do people take off their clothes? No one would want to wear heavy boots.

Not to mention with the lack of information out there people will claim this is genetic discrimination.

I'm for some kind of fat tax or incentivizing health, but we're a long way away from that.

>>41411151
The USSR had socialized gyms and tge lifting culture in Russia is still stronk af.

It may even be the case that the Russian lifting culture directly caused the American lifting culture to bloom in the 50s. So I wouldn't scoff too much at socialised gyms.

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The only way to fix this problem Ian with education. Make nutrition classes mandatory all 4 years of high school. If you don't believe me look at the campaign against cigarettes and how much success it's had with just educational awareness.

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>>41411838
>periodic famines

>>41411054
>wanting to limit economic freedom
People should be able to buy or sell whatever they want within reason. I would say disgusting fast food falls under the category of "reasonable. "
>wanting to limit people's choice of lifestyle
People should be free to be disgusting if they want to be, but there should be consequences where their poor decisions affect others (airplane seats, childcare, etc.), but not otherwise.
>wanting EVERYONE to make it
You're a morally better man than I am in that respect at least. Life is a zero sum game and I hope that everyone else (minus friends and family) does worse.

Overall: 2/10 shit opinion, OP

>>41411054
Go with bodyfat not BMI

>>41411626
I've seen so many fat people on here and IRL that that guy doesn't look fat anymore.

>>41411054
Posts like this demonstrate exactly why /fit/ is the dumbest board

>Thanks to this excellent minor setback tax plan, my heavily food addicted self will stop eating right away and start to lose weight for sure. I would never think to just take the financial hit and stay fat at my and other taxpayers' expense.
>You know why I never went to the gym before? Because I simply couldn't afford it! I'm glad the government is here to take extra money from me for these resources that I will certainly not skip out on.

>>41412132
Socialized fitness is not only about monetary based access, it's also a question of culture and selection.

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>>41412001
>muh """rights"""
>I'm gay and super worried about butthole marriage
>>41411949
You think first comrade Stalin caused famines ACCIDENTALLY? No tovarisch, they were intentional because soviet society has higher and more sublime goals than total number toilet papers sold per annum! National intermittent fasting builds an aesthetic and virtuous people!

>>41411840
Well, as I said I'm sure it varies depending on the are. At my high school we only had two years of PE and out of those 14 months of school maybe 3-4 were spent on Health overall. That includes sex Ed, drugs AND general diet info so overall maybe 1 month out of 28 months were spent on diet/nutrition info. At my Community college a Health+PE course was mandatory and we actually covered both diet and exercise topics. At the biggest uni in my state however, it's not required and from what I hear it's mostly a joke in terms of the exercise section.

Basically we agree an overhaul of our health education is required if we want to fix our problem. Hopefully it won't arise out of some crisis, mass death of the obese or whatever, but it looks like it might take something like that at this point.

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In Denmark everything unhealthy is heavily taxed. Here are some prices I can tell you from the top of my head.

mcdonald's big mac menu - 60 DKK
pack of cigarettes - 37 DKK
small nutella jar - 32 DKK
big bottle of coke - 21 DKK
Tiny pouch of Haribo gummies - 15 DKK
Bag of chips - 15 DKK


1500 gr frozen seasoned chicken drumsticks - 29 DKK
450 gr fresh chicken breasts - 25 DKK
1 KG of brown rice - 14 DKK
1 KG of frozen mixed veggies - 12 DKK
bag of brown pasta - 8 DKK
1L of milk - 6 DKK

Dietary education and bringing down big food. Coca cola, Nestle, Mcdonalds. Any unhealthy or processed food needs to be taxed to oblivion.

>>41412425
White Americans have a lower % overweight thAn Danes senpai.

You can't force people to be healthy, but you can and should punish them by massively taxing all junk food (and maybe using part of the proceeds to subsidize healthier alternatives). This won't happen because it would be extremely unpopular with voters and powerful lobbies, and only an authoritarian regime could challenge those.

Let them be fat and remove medicaid, welfare etc and let hospitals and insurance companies turn people away
Job done now they're their own problem

>>41411096
DECENT

>>41412425
>1L of milk - 6 DKK
whoa

>>41411126
>kicking heroin is stressful
>stress leads to relapse
>better not kick that then

>>41411242
I hate this bullshit statistic. BMI is retarded.

It's probably more like 1/4 Americans are obese
.>>41411249

you can't make people lose weight or lead healthy lives, but you can educate them.

Right now shit like the biggest loser is the only example people get of morbidly obese people losing weight. And they make it look like hell, with contestants losing as much weight as possible as fast as possible. Every diet magazine boasts diets that will make you lose 20 pounds in a week.

Properly educating the public about how to lose weight steadily and easily by counting calories and macros, without even needed to exercise would have huge effects. Similarly to how good sex education decreases teenage pregnancy and abortion rates. It's too late for many morbidly obese adults, but GOOD health education in high school or even earlier could do wonders for the future.

Most likely though education funding will continue to be cut too shit.

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>>41411223
Canada ups tax for smoking
public awareness greatly increased
smoking rates drop over last 20 years
Yea, taxes and social programs never work.

>>41412594
If I ever feel like skipping a workout I put on an episode of my 600 pound life. Shits motivating

>>41412622
You're half right, smoking has dropped significantly over the last 5 decades but has plateaued.

A problem with taxing things is that you can only do it so much before it becomes profitable to smuggle cigarettes over the border, which Canada has a huge problem with.

Prohibition doesn't work with drug addiction, it won't work with good addiction.

You need education: harm reduction. Starting young.

>>41411361
>forcing fat people to choose less expensive, less processed food due to taxation and reducing said food intake thanks to educational programs/public awareness given that a good chunk of people dont know how to read a nutritional label
>better solution is stripping citizenship
Yeah, no.
http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/press-room/2012/fifty-nine-percent-of-consumers-around-the-world-indicate-diffic.html

>>41411168
>i remember in highschool my year level was the last to not be given ipads
>all the younger year levels had them
>our year level and older would all be outside during lunch and recess playing soccer and chatting and shit
>all the younger year levels sat in the library playing games on their ipads
one of the most pathetic and sad things i'd seen

also watching the behaviour of kids in school today none of them would have it in them to do what kids in the video were doing, theyd have parents giving in letters to let them sit out, theyd argue with teachers and refuse to do it. this next gen are gonna be fat, unmotivated, slobs.

>>41412622
I smoked for 5 years. The reason I quit was social disapproval and the criminalization of smoking spaces, as well as legal discrimination against smokers. Tax policy had nothing to do with it, bowtie.

>>41412507
You have to remember:
Americans fuck about with stats presentation. When they say such and such a percentage is overweight they mean not obese or fatter as well as not normal weight or lighter. Denmark has (in some specific populations) 68% overweight, by the same metric for measurement the US has not ~30% but 75%. This is why US stats show larger numbers of obese people than overweight.

American data is tainted by lies. They put any old bullshit on their DMV height data, and often height is increased to lower BMI. Go over to the US and you will find the average height is lower than the claimed 5'10 for example. BMI data in Europe is not so tainted.

>>41412668
So social and legal pressure. What legal discrimination? I'm curious.

>>41412539
?

>>41412721
Companies can legally drug test and discriminate in hiring/ firing for nicotine.

>>41412698
What evidence do you have for This? It sounds like you just don't want to believe the stats

>>41411796
dude, can you imagine the outcry from all the sjw's and pretty much all the fat people in america? they would never fucking shut up about how you're fat-shaming them by making them get on a scale to board the bus and embarrassing them in front of everyone, no matter how much logical sense it makes.

Unfortunately with all the hamplanets and bleeding hearts enabling them, it could never pass.

>>41411054
You would polarize a lot of people deeper into fatty beliefs; that's what happens when you come on too strong. Need to find middle ground and work your way from there

>>41411488
>1488
your digits confirm it, goebbels.

>>41412829
See >>41411249

It's just how the US tends to operate.

>>41412425
Denmark has always had a historical problem with taxes and borders, that's the only failing part of the policy that it's quite easy for Danes to fuck off to another EU country amd avoid the tax all together.

>>41411407
This is a valid point. The more lardasses and skinnyfats that exist make us look better in comparison. In a world where everyone is fit, we wouldn't stand out. Is the extra money we have to spend on gov't programs and higher insurance rates worth that advantage? Probably.

On the other hand, if everyone were fit, there would be more sexy girls out there. So maybe it would be a wash.

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>>41411838
>nationwide IF

>>41411054
Thicc! Who is this juiccy thiccbrap?

>>41412035

this is what fat was 30 years ago

>>41411898
>a failed group of socialist cabbage farmers set up a few gyms in a couple of densely populated cities thanks to their oppressive government
>surely this is the solution for america

>It may even be the case that the Russian lifting culture directly caused the American lifting culture to bloom in the 50s
It wasn't. Between movies and comic books depicting bodybuilders/strongmen growing as popular media through the 40's and 50's, as well as the return of soldiers from the war efforts that had more energy than was needed to function in civilian life, our lifting culture existed independently of our Olympic lifting rivalry with USSR

Can I get a motherfucking tax deduction for going to the gym?

>>41412698
>stats don't come out in your favor
>Americans fake stats!

Yurocucks are pathetic

>>41411054
let them die.

ive put a lot of time and effort trying to get my mom to lose weight, I've succeeded but it took years of effort.

to get millions of americans to lose weight is going to be next to impossible, just let them die and DON'T pay for their healthcare.

>>41411626
>>41412035
>>41413185
Reminder that Homer Simpson reached a weight of ~135Kg in an old episode so that he would be classified as disabled, and that his normal weight before that was just ~110Kg and it was considered overly and comically fat.

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>>41412821
>>41412668
Yikes, didn't know it was heading in this direction. If a smoker is subject to this then why not the obese? And then where do companies draw the line on maintaining employment are permitting 'risky beahviour'? http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/us/11smoking.html

>>41413271
This, I believe Canada has something like this for children. But why no adults?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/child-fitness-tax-credit-to-be-doubled-and-made-refundable-1.2794198

>>41411145
Lol who gives a shit what industry lobbyists think in this case fuckin Obama

>>41412425
Your Big Macs cost more than a pack of cigarettes? That's dumb, Big Macs can be part of a responsible diet, but cigarettes are just trash.

>>41413566
>Big Macs can be part of a responsible diet
>shitload of oil, bread, salt can be part of a responsible diet
no

>>41413566
You can smoke "responsibly". As with alcohol and big macs just don't do it everyday.

>>41411247
>>41411242
Overweight, Not obese. Don't talk shit if you're not going to get the facts straight

>>41413624
>implying they wont be obese in a couple of years.

>>41413604
>>41413608
Yes, you just have to balance your diet around it. And if it's one a month or something, it's not going to hurt much.
Cigarettes are toxic right away.

>>41412972
We could start a social movement to ostracize fatties

>>41411168
We need another threat like the Rusky's to motivate Americans into being physically fit freedom fighters

Just gonna end up giving more money to the government

ITT: OP BTFO

>>41411838
>make america communist for once!

>>41413566
the whole menu, the bigmac only is 35 DKK

frigg off you commie, just privatize healthcare instead

>>41411126
fuck off fatty

>>41411054
>it's a you need a gym membership to do sports episode

how fat are you OP ? be honest...

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>>41411054
bring back fatshaming in tv shows, it works

>>41411096
obviously the former, the last thing we need is more africans breeding

>>41411420
That's because he doesn't even know what that means, but he's 18 years old and ready to change the world so it dosen't matter

>>41417170
Translation?

>>41411054
Fuck off I love steroids. Also fuck off because if people want to kill themselves because they balloon up and die by 50, that's fine because it's the beauty of America. Fuck off again because I'm not paying for fatties fucking gym memberships. Fuck off because McDonald's is delicious after hangovers.

Kys OP you Communist leech

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>>41411838
This is the only good argument for communism I have ever read

>>41417205
I dunno, I'll ask my gf later

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fuck off fatty's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfSiRFgxa-c

>>41411054
>Government profits from obesity
>Thinks the government won't incentivize obesity as a result
Did you think this through?

>>41411229
democracies in general are doomed to fail

at the time, a democracy was a good idea because the country was small and shared a lot of similar ideals.

> manifest destiny
> fast forward to present

ideals all over the place now and politics are harder to follow therefore much less people are informed.

we're letting people choose someone based on who they feel is the right choice rather than who is actually the qualified and right choice. We need to update Bill of Rights and the Constitution to fit modern times and not let fucking idiots have votes.

>>41413246
The USSR (and Europe in general) had a strong lifting culture well before the 40s and 50s.

>>41417205
I think it's pretty obvious.

>>41411096

Sure. Whichever.

>>41417205
You can tell what is happening from the pictures alone.

>>41411132
More than monsanto gives directly to politicians already?

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>>41411054
let them get fat

less competition brah

>>41412668
We basically need to do this exact same thing with obesity. Right now but fat is socially acceptable when it really shouldn't be. Go to an asian country as a fatty and they will straight up call you fat, poke your stomach, tell you to lose weight, etc.

We need to bring back fat shaming.

>>41411054
Sounds great. But there's a little bump in the road called lobbyists; in this case, lobbyists for companies that sell shitty food.

>>41417581
Sure, but competition with Russia didn't create the American lifting boom

>>41419843

This.

The number one most purchased "food" with EBT is soda and I'm sure those companies will flip out if a large portion of the population suddenly stops buying or limits soda intake heavily due to price.

>>41411151
>You want to know who is making up the majority of fat people? Hint:
It's spics and niggers.

Check the OBEAST rates, niggers are 50% more likely to be obeasts (especially the negresses) than Whites, and spics are 25% more likely. Majority of people ITT seem to be talking about this problem as if it were something primarily among Whites, but a lot of it is racial.

HERE'S A SOLUTION:

Make the EBT only applicable for healthy food, no sodas or KFC, or better yet, give the fucking niggers and spics actual handouts of healthy food, you know, "gubmint cheez," so that the goddam Achmeds and Patels can't engage in EBT fraud and send the money to their jihadi motherfucking friends overseas.

>>41411090
> shipping fat people and not thin ones
this is poor business acumen
also fat people float

>>41411151

My economics professor even mentioned how supermarkets intentionally place all of the processed and sugary stuff in the front of the store since it has been proven to boost sales just by virtue of convenience (ie: You can have an entire store filled with the exact same product and the units near the entrance will always sell more). It's in the best interest of many entities to keep people fat unfortunately.

>>41411796
I'd much rather have a ID/ bus pass with the person's %BF recorded on it. You should know that below the 300+ lb range, weight isn't a good indicator of "choices a person makes" with their health. A 6' 200 lb guy who's all muscle is certainly making better choices than a fat guy with the same mass, or a 5' 170 lb tall woman. Fitness is a lot more complex than the number on the scale.

>>41411379
My city actually does have a pretty large and well equipped free gym. A lot of fatties do show up, more than a normal gym anyways. I've noticed there are certain things that a lot of them do.
>get on a bike or elliptical and don't adjust the resistance
>stop using a cardio machine after about 5 minutes
>the hip abduction machine will ALWAYS have a fat woman on it
>the bicep curl machine will ALWAYS have a fat man on it
>after burning perhaps 40 calories most fats will go to the gym snack bar and order 500 calories of food
I swear the city must recoup operating costs on that fucking snack bar alone.

>>41411345
I think you're onto something here.

We'll secede from the US and form a /fit/ nation.

>>41411488
Its time for Mishima's bodybuilding sanurai revolution. /fitlit/ will rule.

>>41411096
HELLOR r/4CHIZN HEHEHHEHEH

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Here's a better way:

Force obese people to water fast (under doctor supervision) until they are 15% body fat (men) or 22% (women)?

>minimal risk for most people
>low cost - just check in with doctor every few days or week
>cures type 2 diabetes
>lowers blood pressure & glucose
>no loose skin, heals scars due to autophagy
>repairs cell/organs/intestines
>removes bateria/parasites/dead or toxic cells that can lead to cancers and other diseases
>increases HGH
>super cheap compared to the long-term costs of obesity/diabetes
>easy as fuck
>obesity & type 2 diabetes cured in one year across the country

Restaurants/groceries/individuals could be fined for selling/feeding obese people more than once a week.

youtu.be/E484qiQXxzM

youtu.be/vCIBse6v3Qc

>>41411068

>>41411054

Can't happen. Soda corporations and other junk food corporations would lobby against it.

We need to let people be "free" to stay ignorant and die.

Heck, we could have prevented this if monetary policy weren't so arcane.

It's basically every man for himself.

>>41411054
>This has worked greatly in eliminating obesity in countries such as Japan

I live in Japan and have never heard of this. There are also fat asses here to and I never here of them talking about it.

A real solution to the fat problem would be to round them up and force them to lose weight in camps.

>>41423637
>water fast

There's that stupid meme diet again.

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>>41411090
>Syria