Opinions on /Sealmode/?

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>>41410128
Nobody needs trt till theyre in their 50s (usually) and the government does not use steroids on the military currently.
I know a lot of them use gear on their own. All of the guys i knew in HS that washed out of buds used gear with me, but now i can just get huge and join the ffl where its easier but more active.

>>41410286
Youb know nothing. I'm on trt 240mg of test via, DOCTOR and I'm only 24. Fuck. Off.

>>41410316
Usually.
You are test deficient, you are not usual.

>>41410128

A lot of them will be on gear to help with recovery and performance. It may not be prescribed by the navy but they get it for themselves.

Think about it. Your life is constantly on the line. You're going to want every advantage that you can get. If you can take some test or other PED that helps you stay strong, fit, improves your recovery time, increases your work rate and helps you keep lean muscle when you're operating at exhaustion (crashing test)... Wouldn't you hop on?

>>41410366

that's exactly what I thought making this thread

>>41410366
I would say 25% of navy SO does roids, max
They do more MDMA than roids.

>>41410286
>American
>joining the FFL

That's how I know you've done no research

The FFL fucking hates Americans

>>41410440
Im quiet and i take orders well
I can do 30 pull ups
I speak good german ok russian and bad french, i have about 2 years before i join to work on it.
If they want to hate me, let them.

>>41410440
>>41410286
Why the fuck would any american join the ffl? You guys already have a decent military with
decent pay... the ffl is for poor slavs and asians who already have nothing...and chances are if they dont like you (and they will not like you if you are american) you get to clean thr latrins and work in the kitchen till your 5 years are over or desert

>>41410440
Also, ive never heard that before, source it.
A considerable number of Americans join the ffl, and from their accounts, and from what ive heard from people i know, i never really heard about any anti american shit. We're basically just canadians, if not brits.

>>41410480
Academi will hire you if you have 5 years in the FFL.
I would prefer 5 years in the desert to 6 years at a base in georgia.

>>41410474

>everyone telling you its a bad idea

>b-but I can do pull ups and shit

Reconsider your current path. Your sheltered ass can't comprehend some people despise your American ass.

>>41410474
You realize it's not guaranteed acceptance right? You go through a quick selection phase and if they don't like you you're out. Happens to most Americans nowadays, they'll find reasons to bounce you since no American understands hardship

Ask any Frenchman and you will know, for instance on this forum
https://cervens.net/legionbbs123/archive/index.php/t-311.html

Americans that go to the Legion are almost always self important cunts. Your shit about joining Academi makes me think you're some CoD kid who read web forums too much

Ya they are all on gear. It's kind of a don't ask don't tell type of thing.

Its the only way you can maintain that much mass when your training involves so much cardio.

>>41410491
Maybe if you end up in combat company in 2rep They sure as fuck will nott hire you if you end up in the logistics infrastructure or maintence company which you have zero power over after you sign the contract

>>41410128

These dudes probably have at least better than average genetics when it comes to physical activity and I would guess that they get fed really well and proper to ensure their health (these dudes are expensive, you want to keep them in good shape). I would also argue that they get consulting in developing their bodies and these guys have really insane work ethics so working out is like a second nature.

Now I'm not saying that they are not on them roidz but just a few things to consider.

>>41410286
>but now i can just get huge and join the ffl where its easier but more active.

Just LMAO

>>41410604

why not both?

>>41410366
>Your life is constantly on the line.
It's not though, even elite units spend the majority of time in training

>>41410776

these guys can be rapidly deployed basically anywhere in the world on a moments notice.

They could be stateside today and in the middle of Iraq within 48 hours, if they aren't always at peak performance they can get fucked fast. Even if they aren't LITERALLY constantly in the desert, they have to train like it.

>>41410440
> The FFL fucking hates Americans

They don't, they tend to hold them in bad esteem because in their experience they are generally pussies compared to eastern europeans or africans but that is all.

Friend tried out for seals before saying fuck it and went chair force. Here is what I remember him saying about it
>nothing but cardio
>swim for around 10-20 miles a day
>heavy (dont know what specific weight) rucksack hikes
>no breaks
>yelling
>that hold you down in the water thing is real
>crying
>DI laughing at your pain
>gas chamber

Not in a million years I would try that shit

>>41410329
It's not hard to crash your test.
Stress depression and cohplusm and lack of sleep will kill it badly.
Aka most infantry

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>>41411839
meh, I've done most of it in northern norway during winter

>>41410128
>test boosters
what kind?

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>>41410604
do russian special forces also get all this treatment?

>>41411920
Stfu weakling

>>41410128
neither of the guys in OP pic look like they are roiding though....

sidenote:
heaps of cunts in the australian army are pinning, but its obviously just their own choice.

guy i knew in prison did a bunch of HGH cycles, i would take that over any roids anyday

>>41411920
Mauken?

>>41411996
no u

>>41412026
erryday

>>41412030
Hva var du a?

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>>41412047
var ikke fast på skjold

F S K
S
K

>>41412058
Ah, tror ikke helt på deg der, men fett om du var

>>41412087
tro hva du vil kompis

>>41410480
Listen to this guy. When I was 18 I went to Aubagne and applied. It was a dodgy set up and full of gooks. Glad I didnt get accepted in hindsight.

>>41412177
im going in 6 months

if you dont get into a good company, you are gonna have a fucking bad time
>incentive to train like a madman

honest question, why do you think you were rejected?

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That mode can't be maintained whilst deployed, the diet simply doesn't allow it. Don't forget that seals are the guido's of the SF community, with hair gelled back, cool sunglasses and tattoos from top to bottom.

Pic related, it's what SF looks like when they're not continuously writing books about missions and bragging about who got to shoot UBL.

>>41410128
>they're all fucking jacked beyond what most people can reach naturally
Are you actually retarded or do you not lift?

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Spec-ops mode? More like pre-op mode.

>>41410366
How do they pin whilst in the field? You think they have room to carry a load of vials with them when they're on exercise?

>>41412730
Probably just take orals on field desu

>>41412415
The guy doing the medicals said I had bad knees. It was bullshit, I was running 20km daily with no pain, no pre existing condition, nothing. It was most likely because I was western.

A drug fucked Italian guy got through the medical from memory. I didnt.

>>41412993
thanks for the reply

I'm Australian, fucking hope they take me
>running 20km daily
woah, dont know if i will be able to reach this mode before I leave..... I can ruck 20km with weight comfortably though

how far did you make it before they gave you the old heave-ho?

e.g. were you a blue at this point?

>>41413086
No where near blue. I was booted on the third day after medicals. To be honest man the only way theyll take you is if you're an crim and have no other alternatives.

Why not join the Australian military or the paras or marines in the UK as a com citizen?

>>41411956
the kind that actually work

>>41412750
t. 15 year old

Just shut the fuck up about this kind of stuff

>>41413118

>tattoos on hands and throat
>have done some time but was aquitted (was legit innocent)
>weirdly thrived in the structure and competitiveness of prison life (of course i didnt enjoy prison; just those aspects of it)
inb4 bumsex: that doesnt really happen mate..

also, australian military will never see real action; wheras france is likely to go to war soon, and the legion will likely be the first in the fight.

>UK marines or para...
thats not a fucking bad idea anon

also i just think 2REP legionnaires are fucking nails and want to be one

>>41411839
You don't switch branches if you fail selection, dumbass.

You fucking kids need to get off the internet and go try some of this shit. Video games and movies are not real life.

>>41411839
>BUD/S
>heavy rucksack hikes
Yeah, you have no idea wtf you're talking about.

>>41411839
Hahaha should've done his research before enlisting
SEALs and all other SO don't care how much you bench or squat they want someone who can run till failure. They push them to their physical and mental limit because they dont want a bitch that breaks down when shit goes down. In the air force CCT scuba school they stand on peoples heads underwater until they pass out, if you struggle and try to go above water you fail.

>>41413173
Yeah they might take you the tats and prison time will actually benefit you. Which prison did you go to, I did placement in a few and I saw a pretty horrible rape?

>>41413264
silverwater, longbay, lithgow

yeah, im not saying scotchings and murders dont happen.. they do, but its not like people think.

for someone like me and the calibre of people i chose to associate myself with, that was never a possibility.

blog-time
>one guy was telling me about a guy who got scotch taped in golbourn
>hes laughing about it, acting nonchalant
>mentioned his name when i got to lithgow
>lmfao, it was him, that was why he got tipped
> for reference he was the only one that year.

re: placement
>you a shrink or a screw?

>>41413415
Nurse, I went to Longbay for a bit, psych hospital though. There are some fucking crazys in there.

>>41413415
Also scotching? Never heard that one.

>>41413453
highlight of my month was visiting this sexy caramel (female) nurse in the bay. loved a flirt. great smelling perfume.
>fuck i loved long bay
>got strong as hell in there, 4 hours of lifting and sprints a day

>>41413486
scotch-tape
rape

>>41410491
Academi will hire you if you were airwing supply for 3 years in the army air fucking reserves.

Holy fuck I love when threads like these remind me that 90% of posters are fat, neckbearded WELL I TOTALLY WOULD HAVE JOINED BUT MEPS KICKED ME OUT CAUSE MA KNEES

>>41413512
Hahahahaha yeah you get those girls. Fucking unprofessional but you love them. Never move up the ladder.

>>41413453
haha, ive heard about the 'bronzings' and shit... fucking brutal shit man
>apparently those fuckers got playstation though!!!

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>>41410128

>>41413552
for us its a huge plus!
and you just know they would prolly be keen for some inmate cock if you got to see them often enough...
>head screw in my section at lithgow was a 7/10 blonde
>fell pregnant to two different inmates at different times but it was on the hush hush
lmfao, sorry kid, mum liked the bad boys
hahaha just makes you so sick

>rebels paid her $400 for a bucket of KFC chicken one christmas

lmfao prison is hilarious dude

>>41413553
Yeah man, hell of a mess to clean up after those fellas go into seclusion. Yeah they get access to playstation a little in high security and quite a bit on lower security.

>>41413586
Jesus Christ, how'd she not get done?

>>41413586
Anyway I finished a sopranos bender. Good luck with whatever move you make. Night

>>41413628
soon as NSW corrections went semi-private, if you knew the right screws you could get what you want (some were government employees, some worked for private companies - why would they give a shit)

>One kiwi female screw used to get ice in for the boys on the reg (not my cup of tea, but an easy few grand for her)

That shit wasnt for me though - I would rather pay prison prices for gear or pot if i wanted it that badly, than to be seen talking to screws or have it be known i was 'little buddies' with any of those cunts.

>>41413601
the thing is i do have alternatives to FFL (degree, decent job, immediate family - no kids or wife or anything though) what do you reckon the chances of them finding out would be?

do you think honesty is the best policy with 'the gestapo'?

I just wanna get in the fight for real, but i dont know if they love that or hate it.

>>41410316
JAHANS
YOU SAID YOU WOULD NEVER BROWSE THE CHANS
TRULY YOU HAVE COME TO CLAIM YOUR POSITION AS LORD OF THE ALT-RIGHT

>>41410128
OK 1. They are not on gear
2. Seal mode is achievable natty but not everyone can do it. Its fucking hard that's why they're so few. You gotta be a special kind of tough to be a seal.

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Reading these stories of guys who go through such hell in training really shows the best the human being can offer.
I truly respect them.
The physical abuse I think I could take baring the claustrophobia but the mental abuse seems horrible.
I understand being tough but breaking a person mentally can really fuck people up.
Thank god men like this exist. There is no western way of life without them.

I wonder tho, how many actually go on to living a nice life when they are done. Are able to thrive in civilian life and actually be compassionate to people who are clearly weaker than them.

What an interesting life choice.
I was on a cruise once. I was have been in great shape for a long time. I look really close to peak natty male limit.
Anyways, there was a retired special forces guy on the cruise with his BANGING Columbia wife.
We become kind of friendly throughout the cruise and I bought him a couple hours worth of rounds and just talked to him.
I was only like 23 at the time and he was pushing me to join special forces.
He thought I would be a good fit I guess because I was strong and respectful naturally.
I was just so impressed with him.
I can't help but wonder if I should of done it. But I also am pretty sensitive, not a bitch but just intune with my emotions and the emotions of others and genuinely hurt hearing other people's pain.
I think it would of broken me.

Do any of you guys regret it?
Tell me about life before during and after.
I would love to hear your story.

>>41413769
retired SOF generally do pretty well in the civilian world. They can do anything they want because of their very nature, and usually have increased opportunities because of their service. They get lower rates of PTSD because they're mentally tougher, and because SOF are so elite they don't get serious injuries too often, unless you count blown knees and joints, which they probably have pretty big problems with.

Respect is something that comes from the job too. Most aren't going to look down on other people.

And on the topic of whether you should've done it, it's not the kind of thing you should do unless you really want to Tbh. For one if you aren't really motivated you probably won't make it.

>>41412730
You wrap the vial in bubble wrap then put the entire thing in some sort of hard case along with your pins, I used an old eyeglasses case.

For sanitation it sucks but you have to do it. Wash your hands and the injection site thoroughly with soap and water. Use hand sanitizer on your hands and injection site. Then you just take the normal sanitation practices for injecting.

>>41410128
Not a SEAL but MARSOC here, equally physically demanding. I dont use steroids nor do any of the guys in my team to my knowledge. I know of people who do, regular marines and MARSOC, not because they need to but just for the same reasons other people use roids.

>>41410512
>That much mass

Most of the guys aren't huge. Most look like normal people because job demands that you can blend in if required. I also lift way more than I run so the so much cardio comment is unfounded.

>>41413765
Need to be able to write a book

Yep, pretty tough....

>>41410128
Wouldn't be completely unsurprising, pilots might actually be the worst when it comes to using performance enhancing drugs. Mick Mannock was one of the best British fighter pilots of WWI and he wrote 15 rules fro flying. Rule 4 suggested pilots stay alert through physical exercise and moderate use of stimulants. Today pilots can get go-pills which are like medically prescribed speed to keep them going if they get mentally fatigued.

>>41411839
Literally Army training in New England is tougher, I feel like this is false

>>41413743
kek, looks like our fatshaming did the trick as usual.

>>41410316
sorry your genetics suck

Doubt it. SEALS need to be fast and have excellent agility. Having the mass of a steroid user would be more of a hindrance. Also, they're subject to random drug screenings so I don't think they would risk but then again what do I know? I'm just an anon user on a Brazilian knitting enthusiast forum.

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Do any Brits know how good the reserve versions of the commandos/paras are?
Thinking of attempting it while im still at uni

>>41410776
More SEALs are killed in training than war

>>41410128

I doubt many SEALs are on gear.

http://taskandpurpose.com/navy-seals-drug-use-cbs-report/

>in November 2016, the Navy conducted a “no-notice sweep” of all 6,364 Naval Special Warfare units returning to their posts from Thanksgiving — a sweep that returned only seven positives for drug use.

Even if some cheat the test, they're jacked because SEALs get paid to be in top condition 24/7. They have the best facilities, trainers, and supplements, and basically workout a couple hours a day year round.

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>>41410286
Man I always thought there was something wrong with that face and finaly after months I got it!

>>41410286
Miring the forearms on the spearman. No homo.

>>41410286
>>41410440
>mfw I literally booked a one way flight to Marseille earlier today to join the FFL

t.. the FFL i.. isn't that bad is it?

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>>41411703
>tfw eastern european (Polish to be exact) and pussy
I mean, I'm tall and athletic, but I don't have the warrior mindset of my ancestors.

Can't comment on seals but I heard through the grapevine that all the r reg guys are geared up, PA approved and everything

I got tested for low T when I was in and the PA just laughed at me :(

Go to k and ask ricky

>>41416517
hey man if you have time i have a few questions

i dropped from recon, got sick as fuck and failed a pft. would you recommend going marsoc as opposed to going back to recon? how much swimming was there at A&S, the primer course for recon has pretty extensive treading without your hands plus rucking what was A&S like in that aspect

>>41410128

Normal street level steroids? Nope.

Like a few others have said, BUD/S is designed to push you into high endurance levels. They have a work ethic that will eclipse normal soldiers.

What is possible and rather likely is that the military provides things far beyond what we have. You want these guys to maintain as close their peak performance under 3rd world shithole conditions. The mission dictates the preparation.

>>41411920
men der er jo bare GSV, hvis du ikke mener KJK, så er de fleste spesial styrkene på Rena og haakonsvern.

>>41416581
What? No. We're talking about SEALs.
SEALs lift, and look like they lift.
>job demands that you can blend in if required
No.

What the fuck did you just a taste, James.

>>41413219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrLfEX1Gxcc

>>41413743
Not him but don't lie to them. People saying they take criminals with serious rap sheets are fuckin dumb. The FFL isn't what it used to be in that regard. Also I'm pretty sure they go through interpol and whatever information they don't have access too.. will be found out somehow eventually. Either way you're gonna be treated like dogshit for years and it's probably a bad decision.

>>41411971
they probably get thrown on roids by the government really

>>41420171
> they go through interpol

Most people don't know this for sure, but it's probably just some bullshit that they tell you to spook you.

>>41413769
My dad was a Ranger who fought in Vietnam. He has no compassion towards people other than (some) in his family. He really loves animals, and they love him. Dogs and cats are always coming to him and just chilling next to him. They both sit there quietly

>>41410510
>No American understands hardship
>The French do
Lel that's some dilusion

>>41420234
They will find out if you have a serious criminal record. It's not like it's hard. The FFL is for people with shit lives. They look for people who they know won't run off because they have no better alternative. I'm not saying westerners don't get in because there have been plenty that do. Most non English speakers join because it's a fuckin job to them not some romanticized bs of running off to the legion.

>>41411839
>swim 10-20 miles a day

no

>>41420234
Actually they probably do, my dad joined the navy and halfway through the interview process -after background checks but before acceptance- the interviewer started speaking Czech to him.
Grandad on his side came over from Czechslovakia when he was 10 so this is about 50 years ago do they still looked into it.
Guy was almost disappointed dad dos t speak Czech

>>41413219
you're the one who sounds like a fucking idiot. every SOF uses rucks to get people to test their limit. and every fucking SOF uses heavy rucks because when you're deployed and on patrols you have alot of shit to carry. what did u mean he has no idea what he's talking about? you think they just swim for 20 hours a day? literally?

>>41410128
steroids are pretty widespread in the military unofficially and it's well known that air force and special forces are given amphetamines
to be honest there's no reason not to be using steroids and nootropics if you know what you're doing

>>41412680
do you honestly think you can get like the guy on the left natty?
lmao you faggots are so fucking delusional

>>41422193
Seals don't ruck at least not much if at all.

>>41417544
Then you proved the point.

>>41422193
Selection events are either swim based or ruck based you dumbass. BUD/S is swim based, things like Ranger School and SFAS are ruck based.

I have a friend who's a SEAL and he said gear usage is pretty prevalent, but only after BUD/S
In BUD/S your primary concern is moving yourself from point a to point b. You'll do some buddy carries and it's nice to be extra strong to hep the boat crew run faster up berms or lift Old Misery easier, but those aren't make or break requirements like 2 mile ocean swim times and 140 miles of boats on heads running during Hell Week. BUD/S is about being cardio strong, with not a lot of extra spare strength/ muscle. Life in the Teams is different. Then it's all about being able to carry weight: your buddy, the extra ammo, extra food and water, comms gear, whatever. Getting from point a to point b in a time limit becomes much less of a concern because your team generally gets to dictate the time tables and usually even the distances.

>>41413688
This guy again
>>41413692
If this guy wants to know anymore

>>41424633
mad cunt, i kept this thread open just in case. fuckin champion.

>did you make it up to 'gestapo' point?

>do you reckon they will see my time in prison (even though i was not guilty and aquitted) as a positive or a negative? should i even mention it unless asked?

>do you know any tips for selection?
>e.g. do you think they love fit hungry motherfuckers who want to get in the fight, or do they see that more as a liability?

>how many pullups could you do when you went for selection?

>how did they treat you being an australian? im expecting not to be fuckin' loathed like an american might be. But then again, we are a first world country, and i have a job and a degree...

gonna close my bank account just in case they look, so they know im actually having a fuckin' run at this...

cheers anon

Your thinking is wrong.
Steroids improve performance but also increase the chances of injury and other health issues. When it comes down to a mission it's more important that you don't end up tearing some random muscle because it's stronger than it would be naturally.
When it comes down to it, consistency and functionality are more important than marginal strength and aesthetic improvements.
The same drugs that help you increase your PRs at the gym faster won't help seals do their jobs properly.

>>41424689
I didnt really read into the gestapo but I figured it was supposed to break you down. I cant give you any info on it, I never got that far.

I can speculate as far as it counts. I'd say you have fuck all to do outside the legion and french nationality would give you a leg up.... It aint worth much but thats my opinion.

Itll be a positive, they took the guys who when asked admitted to taking a fuck load of drugs/ had prison time

Dont volunteer for any jobs. those guys went first, they got the best beds but they all were booted.

They want fit hungry fuckers who have no other option than to fight

We had to do 5 on the way up the hill from the gate

i was treated the same as all the others. All the other guys looked at me the same. it was the medical staff that booted me. Im sure if you hid in the back and didnt distingish yourself youd have been accepted.

Again, id recommend the marines or paras but I dont know if theyd go with the throat tattoos.

>>41412481
SEALs aren't SF though, SF is army

>>41418157
Not really, it's more of a don't ask don't tell policy on roids. They're against policy but lots of guys are using them and to get caught someone above you would have to order a specific steroid test.

They definitely aren't giving guys some super secret government roids, this isn't one of your sci-fi books anon, the guys buy their roids themselves

>>41424955
thanks, this info actually does help alot

ill try to let my performance speak for itself, and not show off my fancy new french (been getting lessons... so i think im a mad cunt now...)

if they ask about my degree, i will just say it fucking bores me and i want to see combat action

>british paras or marines
no dice, found out you need to have lived in the UK for 5 years
>aussie commandos
no throat or hand tattoos allowed

legion it is... and at least not i have excuses for not joining a commonwealth military. i cant fuckin wait

im at 10+ pullups now, so all i need to do is pump cardio and calisthenics and cut cut cut..

cheers again anon

>>41424955
The guys I tried to join with were a hard bunch. A muslim guy from comoros with scars all over his back, street kid from Hungary, Islander guy who had been sleeping on the street for 3 months so he could have a 2nd crack. They were nice guys, but they were all rejected at the same time as me.

They're looking for something man, I dont know what it was. I was super fit and motivated. But they didnt take me.

That's roid mode.

>>41425052
Remember they take like 1/8, probably less now. Also are you sure about the commonwealth opportunities? I remember I could have had a spot in the paras or marines back in 2012 if i made the grade.

>>41425052
I just remembered wrote I diary at the time. Ill look for it and find any info i missed out on

>>41425142
>>41425117
that would be fuckin A1 anon, you are a champion. will monitor thread.

Yeah i know they take less than 10%, but im a fuckin machine. lol. gotta have confidence in yaself, right?

Intelligent, thrived in prison, ex boxer, can shoot, fit (and gradually approaching legion fitness)... i think im what they are looking for, and they might be what im looking for too.

i wont be heartbroken if i dont get in - i just want to be able to say i had a fuckin run at it. if it works out, it works out.

>commonwealth
ill call the embassy(?) and double check, british paras is a pretty good go too. and they are highly likely to see action from what i know.

>>41425091
i feel ya, thanks for your input. I am at least gonna throw my hat in the ring and give it a fuckin crack.

>>41425091
jeez youd have to be keen to join the legion as a muslim in the current political climate.

>>41425091
care to share your legion experience anon?
how far did you get?
did they give you a reason?

>>41417493
Went through Uni with a good friend who was RMC reserve, he loved every minute and made a nice little sum of currency. He's joining the Navy as a Warfare Officer now he's graduated.

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>>41413544
Funniest shit I've read all day

>>41410286
is vargs face shopped onto that guys head or is it just a coincidence

>>41410510
>Americans don't know hardship

Yeah, and europoors with mommy governments and zero masculinity suuurely know what hardship is. Gtfo. Don't you all live with your parents?

>>41410128
I imagine it's also partly because of the environment they are in, meaning they probably all have max level natty test levels.

>>41410440
How do they feel about the English

>>41423238
That's 100% achievable you faggot