I had some bloodwork done and learned that my T-levels are sitting at 301 ng/dl.
Explains a lot- i've been struggling to progress in the gym for years and have had bouts of severe depression.
Problem is, my doctor wouldn't prescribe TRT because I am just barely inside the "normal" range. The only place near me that will prescribe is an "Anti-Aging Clinic", and they only deal in BioTE pellets.
So, do they work? Are they worth it? Is it fake science?
Can't do it illicitly because my job drug tests regularly.
Don't do it anon. You can find test about anywhere if you look hard enough. I work in the supplement industry and I have regular customers attempt to solicite pharmas in my business regularly. Dont fuck with pellets
>>41402055
>Dont fuck with pellets
explain?
>>41402118
You wont get the results i know youre looking for. My friend did it for low test and it turned out to be a waste of money.
Tank your test levels purposely then get rechecked.
Some places to start, lower body fat, compound lifts, vitamin d3, zinc. Then find someone who knows what they are doing and taper into running gear
>>41402237
I'm 6'4 230lbs, 16-18% body fat.
I'm taking a multivitamin and zinc every day for the last few years.
My max deadlifts 515, max bench is 280.
Looks like gear is my only option lmao
>>41402230
How can I do that?
>>41402300
dont sleep or eat and drink a load of booze while being stressed
>>41402300
Eat fast food before the labs (they tell you to come in fasted in the morning -- break your fast with fat and sugar)
Do not sleep the week before the test
Do not get enough dietary zinc
Do not lift or exercise
>>41402691
Like for one day or for a week leading up?
>>41401890
Your test is NORMAL. Don't blame it for your shortcomings. If you wanna roid then do it, man, but be honest about why you're doing it. Whatever is holding you back as a natty it isn't your normal, healthy test level. Also there's no way your job is testing you for roids, they only test for shit like weed, coke and opioids etc
>>41402785
>300
>healthy T
Lmao dude
>>41401890
Listen to me fucking retard before hopping on TRT a life long decision, there are fixable medical causes of low levels of testosterone. Did you get your LH, FSH, Estradiol, TSH, T3, T4, PROLACTIN (one of the most importants) and free Testosterone checked? At what time of the day did you get your levels checked? I'm a med student by the way.
>>41402924
Morning, 9:30am. and yes those were all checked. Don't have the paperwork in front of me atm
>>41403028
When you have it, upload it
>>41403084
OK, I will upload a screenshot in like 20 minutes if you're still around
>>41402838
whats a normal to upper end test level?
>>41402785
t. captain assblast
>>41403189
800 according to the doc
Roiders frequently walk around at 1500+
>>41403084
>>41403113
heres my numbers
Vitamin D, 25OH 23 30 - 100 ng/mL
Cortisol (Random) 16.7 2.3 - 19.4 mcg/dL
DHEA-Sulfate 292 160 - 449 mcg/dL
Estradiol 16 0 - 49 pg/mL
FSH 2.1 1.5 - 12.4 IU/mL
Luteinizing Hormone 2.3 1.7 - 8.6 IU/mL
SHBG 19 17 - 56 nmol/L
Testosterone 301 249 - 836 ng/dL
Testosterone, Free 71 5 - 224 pg/mL
Progesterone <1.0 0.2 - 1.4 ng/mL
Prolactin 11.2 4.0 - 15.2 ng/mL
Testosterone, Bio 185 110 - 575 ng/dL
PSA, Total 0.77 <1.41 pg/mL
You could take a SARM and suppress your test level on top of what other anons are suggesting. The issue here is that even if you get on TRT they don't give you enough to really make that big of a difference in the weight room. Guys who pin are pinning 500mg+ weekly, with levels >1500ng/dL. You won't get that with TRT. Likewise, you could get on TRT and just start gear and your drug tests wouldn't matter. Furthermore, where do you work? Normal urinalysis only tests for THC, opiates, benzos, etc. I've never had a urinalysis that tested for gear, and I've worked in LE before
Lol. 22 years old and at 893 ng/dl. Fking manlets.
>>41403518
The guy is 6'4" retard
>>41402785
shut up you moron, there are people upwards of 1000ng/dl naturally. You have no idea how much hormone levels influence every fucking aspect in your life. from drive, ambition, capability to recover from stress, mood, ability to maintain muscle, facial development
Im not saying to blame everything on it, but to downplay this as something one just have to deal with is condescending and ignorant
>>41401890
>my job drug tests regularly
They aren't testing you for testosterone bro...
>>41403608
i work at a gym so they are pretty serious about roids. they had an issue a few years ago with a handful of guys all getting arrested
>>41402300
talk to women but dont have sex with them. ask about their feelings
eat only soy.
make yourself as depressed as possible to lower testosterone. Cut out your friends, family and loved ones.
spend time on reddit
Constantly eat less than 500 calories than you should
Start taking birth control pills
fap 5 times a day, even when you cant any more. watch BBC cukold porn and sissy porn
attend meetup.com events about diversity and the environment and LGBTQ
Workplace drug tests don't test for hormones you ratart
>>41402300
Sam Hyde is that you
>>41402300
Only do curls and an work and switch your voter registration to democrat. Experiment with analysis play
>>41402300
vote macron and spread your ass for omar
>>41402785
>>41402924
>TRT
>lifelong decision
>implying PCT isn't a thing
what
>med student
oh there it is, you should've mentioned you were retarded earlier
>>41403298
Well, everything seems fine except your test. What are your symptoms besides the gym stuff? Are you having morning wood?
>>41404120
People with low testosterone have to permanently inject it, with the risk of shooting down permanently and becoming infertile with no amount of hCG returning it (and don't even mention the costs in money) if they stopped and did PCT (an idea developed by roiders from anectodes) they would return to their pre treatment low levels.
>>41404739
Shutting down* sorry
>>41404552
only if i have to piss really bad.
low libido, low energy, bouts of depression, bad skin, can't even get excited to play with my kid.
only thing holding me back at the moment is that i want to have at least one more kid so i don't want to accidentally my balls
Post your body, multiple pictures, I want to know how good can you look if you hit your natty peak when u have shit test. Please.
Best way to do a retest but if you take the no sleep, fap multiple times a day, not eating method you might pass it again who knows.
Easiest is to pin, sarms or whatever, or oral roids( not sure if thats helthy) to shut down your naturall test production then u will get TRT
>>41403642
If you work for a gym I garunteed you they are not paying for a test that will detect steroids lol
>>41405039
heres my progress pic. i'm fat as fuck so probably would look decent with a hard cut
>>41402300
Take the pill
>>41405090
>>41402300
Dude, I know the side effects of depression etc are hard to deal with but... speaking from outside the framing and culture of this place, you are pretty strong, and have a good physique.
Not saying your test isn't low, and that isn't a concern and something you should try to fix, but the depression is pretty clearly giving you a case of body dysphoria. Whatever else is going on with your health, you certainly are not fat, unfit, or small measured by any vs. baseline human objective measurement.
It is really frustrating to stop making progress, have you considered starting a new physical hobby and progressing with that? Climbing, swimming, downhill mountain biking, kitesurfing? I'm sure you know one of the best things about lifting is that feeling of progression, a part of your life moving forward somehow.
I know this is not generally the place for heartfelt advice, but this was. Hope it helps.
>>41404827
You might just have depression, some think that it's a two way street, having low testosterone levels favours depression and having depression lowers your test. Are you seeking professional help?
yeah >>41406901 that's what i'm trying to get at here >>41406831
Didn't mention that CBT is a good thing to pursue to help with depression
>>41403766
underrated lol
>tfw total test of 380 but free test of 12
Supposedly I'm asymptomatic am I fucked
>>41402300
Do a SARM cycle with either ostarine or LGD and your test will get suppressed but not shut down