srs question: is it possible to get this swole without juice?

yeah but nothing like pic related or what you probably think. scott herman is pretty much what you can look like after 5-7 years

maybe at genetic max with a good pump

>>41383381
No it not, nattys look shitty at super low fat levels.

Yes if you're under 5'6

no, it's not

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Yes, it's possible. What most people don't realise is that it is possible to have good testosterone levels, unlike most males in today's age. Most guys have test between 300-600 ng/dL, but some guys naturally have like 700-1500 ng/dL, of course it also depends on how much test your body actually uses, which is free test, but basically if you have a healthy free test above 1000ng/dL will give you optimal results.
But it's not for everyone, as everything in life.

>>41383381
Not really if you're over 6'2. However, if you're over 6'2 and juicing, you become biggest best looking guy in your social circle.

On the other hand, if you're under 6'2 is much much easier to become swole and you might even be able to achieve it natty if you're 5'9 or so. However, forever a manlet.

>>41383381
be 5'6
work out consistently for 6 years
have good genetics.
thats about it.

>>41383446
FYI, anyone looking for a height comparison, Johnny Skywalker is 6'4"

>>41383493
> got test recently checked at 750ng/dl
> I'm 6'5 with over 6'8 wingspan
> tfw still will have to juice in order get big arms

>>41383493
You're a fucking idiot, there's literally zero difference in overall muscularity, performance, gains anything, between a male with 300ng/dl and 1000ng/dl.

To see any actual difference in gains you need to be under the normal range, and even then once you're put back into the normal range with low dosages of TRT you will just look normal.

You need supra-physiological amounts of synesthetic testosterone for it to begin to make steroid-like difference on your physique, which is 20-30 times a natural with 1000ng/dl.

Alright y'all. That's Jon Skywalker. Or at least that's his Instagram shit. Dude literally trains on steroid use. Now I don't hate on the guy, wish I could afford juice. But that guy is juiced off his tits.

>>41383381

I've met the guy in person. While his instagram photos are impressive, he's not unbelievably big. Granted, dude's tall as fuck. I'm 6'1" and he was definitely 6'4", but as from his arms, the rest of his body is within reason. Even then, that picture is post instagram bullshit and with a pump. His body is achievable, but don't expect it until you're at the last 5% of natty gains. Going by Berkham's formulae for maximum LBM natural, it's within reason and going by FFMI, it's also there; dude's only 195 lbs.

>>41385156
Lmao, just no.

He doesn't pretend to be natty, back in 2012 he posted on bodybuilding.com a lot on misc and was open about his cycles.

Fucking lmao@ all you delusional natties, keep on dreaming faggots.