Does no-sugar really work or is it just a meme?

It really works
Sugar causes insulin spikes which create adipose tissue

>>41359007
It's too late, OP. You already have ovarian cancer. Hope that sugar was worth it

>>41359007
It works.

>>41359007
It's a meme
the real reason behind all that shit is insulin resistance produced by high consumption of saturated fat and sedentarism

HIIT and lift every other day, and you can eat whatever sugar you want, while being free of memes

>>41359374
>insulin resistance produced by high consumption of saturated fat and sedentarism

kill yourself my man

>>41359374
>the real reason behind all that shit is insulin resistance produced by high consumption of saturated fat and sedentarism
This. Exactly this.

>>41359797
Read a book, you fucking idiot.

>>41359374
>>41359813
kill yourself

>>41359880
Serious question: Have you ever read a book on nutrition in your life? While we're at it, have you ever read any book that wasn't a school assignment? Coloring books don't count.

High consumption of sugar is a major factor in the development of insulin resistance - which is in itself a drive of ageing.

I have to say I feel a lot better on low carb but I'm not lifting yet and will likely have to ditch it when I start - though people seem to have preferable fuels, some feel shit in ketosis and some feel shit on glycogen.

>>41359813
Fu king faggot

>>41359897
Not gonna lie, former book reader here.
kill yourself

>>41359904
>High consumption of sugar is a major factor in the development of insulin resistance - which is in itself a drive of ageing.
Insulin resistance is caused by obesity and obesity is caused by over consumption of calories. Speaking of calories, fat is higher in calories than carbs or protein. Your body is extremely bad at storing carbohydrate as fat; the fat you eat is the fat you wear. They hide information like this in these new things called books. Trying reading one.

Thanks,
Management.

>>41359920
Comic books?

>>41359374

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>>41359933

> thinking that because fat people are made of fat they got fat from eating fat.

WEW

>>41359936
literally my own former skeleton ass
I was struggling to gain weight after years and years of cardio and calisthenics, and doctors told me I was about to get type II diabetes

I started reading books about it, because I was not buying those fags opinion
finally realized I was being memed hard
I was eating nuts all day, and eating too much fat because muh keto gains. I basically never burn any sugar

now I eat carbs like a mofo. pasta and rice every single day, occasional treats here and there, and I train hard: HIIT and lifts

insulin balance in check
doctors gone

>>41359969

Really stellar anecdotal broscience evidence.

>>41359969
>READ A BOOK
>LOL I GOT MEMED ON MY DOCS WHO READ BOOKS
>NOW I DONT READ BOOKS
congratulations

It's literally poison.

>>41359998
>broscience
that is reading the sticky; this is my own experience, the only thing I truly trust

>>41360001
what? I am not following you on that

>>41360016
>trusting your own senses
>objective information

i feel much better/stronger if i eat something sugary during workout. i usually always have some kind of fruit bar that has like 20g of sugar during my workout.

is this all in my head?

>>41360043
>senses
I have read easily 20 books on the subject, not livestrong articles, mate
sugar is like superfood
if you train to create the necessity, it is glorious

see: >>41360052

the only people avoiding sugars is people getting memed on keto and body builders that train for the dry look and not performance

ask any Olympic athlete if they eat sugar
they eat TONS

>no sugar
>which means no carbs
>which means you dont eat the most nutrient packed foods on Earth, where our ancestors ate nothing but it, and still do

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>>41360143
Just let them be wrong, eat no carbs, load up on saturated fat as per the keto meme, get heart disease and die.

>>41360068
>muh books

>>41360143
I like how everything is plainly wrong

>>41359007

100 years ago, America didn't put added sugar in every fucking thing.

100 years ago, America didn't have an obesity epidemic.

Today, America puts added sugar in every goddamn thing.

Today, America has a huge obesity epidemic.

You figure it out.

>>41360143

Sugar is a carb, but not all carbs are sugar.

>>41360292

If you're a fatty (i.e. the kind of person that should be doing keto in the first place) then that ship has probably already sailed. Their only hope is to break that sugar addiction, which keto does.

Cant touch chest when doing pendlay rows, should I deload?
Also is that okay that my torso is slightly inclined down when I do this exercise, I have long legs

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>>41359963
>changing the argument after being btfo

>>41361476
All carbs get broken down to sugar.

Sugar is THE WORST THING to ingest. Sugar acts acts as little shards going through your arteries that tear into the walls. Your body then compensates by producing TOO MUCH CHOLESTEROL to fill in the tears causing BLOOD CLOTS. LISTEN TO ME.

>>41359374
kys mm

>>41361535
all carbs get broken down to glucose, a readily available source of atp for the body. Sugar is not glucose, sucrose is a molecule of glucose bonded to a molecule of fructose. glucose is taken into the blood and processed through glycolysis, whereas fructose must be processed by the liver. They have very different effects on the body. Everyone in this thread needs to read before they type, especially the guy telling people to read. The reason "muh oly lifters" eat tons of sugar is because insulin spikes induce insulin dependent growth factor which helps with muscle growth, but this is not sound medical advice for anyone to follow.

>>41361700
So do glucose, fructose and sucrose all have an insulin response / affect blood sugar levels or do only some of them affect it?

It's only a meme if you don't gorge on the stuff. If it's so bad for us there'd be no sugar in fruits or they wouldn't be sold in stores, the way poisonous berries aren't.

>>41359007
What is with these dietary autists and absolutes? Just fucking eat shit in moderation, what the fuck.

https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/the-science-of-sugar-and-fat-loss.html
Article worth reading.

I have a health problem that gets worse when i consume carbsso I'm currently bulking by having a few tablespoons of EVOO after meals.

Breakfast eggs, onions, peppers, spinach, spices

few tablespoons of EVOO

Eat nuts throughout day

Chicken Broccoli carrots

EVOO tbps

half a tub of greek yoghurt, even though there is quite a bit of sugar in this I think I can handle it

>>41359007

No sugar is stupid. Sugar is literally everywhere. That being said, there is no reason to eat refined sugar.

>>41359007
how much sugar can i take?

all i take is like 2 glasses of lemonade every evening.

>>41361464
>100 years ago, America didn't have an obesity epidemic.
They did actually. Not as much as today, obviously, but this was around the time when bodybuilding became popular in the West with guys like Sandow etc.

And why? Because people already started getting fatter and sicker.

>>41362218
Unless you eat a pound of pure sugar a day, you won't get fat. Even if you do, they gain is in the single-digit grams, not kilograms.

Google de novo lipogenesis.

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> Mfw hopelessly addicted to sugar

Someone halp... Has anyone else had insane trouble giving up the insulin jew? What did you do to kick it? I'll be good for a few days then go to the drug store and buy a bunch of shit.

>>41362336
stop buying it, stop eating it

and you wil stop craving it.

>>41362336
Sugar doesn't cause addiction (seriously, man, are you a 40 year old soccer mom or something). If you find you eat too much sugar, try upping your calories overall and reducing stress.

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>>41362354
>Sugar doesn't cause addiction

You can be addicted to cheese burgers bro.

>>41362140
Thanks, bro

>>41359007
I ate sugar the last time in 2015, I live more or less after a lifting philosophy comparing to Steve Reeves.

>>41362354
Actually sugar is one of the most addictive substances. Rats become addicted to sugar quicker than literal heroin.

>>41359933
I have type 2 and am 13% bf, no insulin resistance is not caused by being obese.

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>>41359374
this is actually correct. sugar is not to blame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_4Q9Iv7_Ao

It's bad because it's empty calories and gets you fat without nourishing. OP pic is bullshit

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>>41359933
>believing all this outdated science
>acting like he's some sort of genius

i wish i had this level of confidence

>>41363367
>fructose, the liver toxin
delicious fructose, the best sugar available (in the form of fruit)

we are heading into a new generation of fat eating fags

it is disgusting

>>41360143
holy kek

>>41363396
>empty calories

no, it's toxic calories

Eating/drinking too much sugar is definitely one of the worst things for you, but "hyperactivity" as a result of sugar is a meme that needs to die.

>>41359374
t. PepsiCo Inc

>>41363537
this is the type of ignorant that falls for the sugar meme

they can't differentiate between refined sugar from sodas, and the sugar in a banana

it is sad, because what they don't realize is that a lot of sugar destroys the pancreas, BUT a lot of fat destroys de kidneys and liver

to each it's own

>>41363146
You sure its type 2? If it's late onset they can often misdiagnose it. I had a doctor try to tell me I had type 2 when diagnosed at 17 until the specialist came in the next day.

>>41359933
>Insulin resistance is caused by obesity
scoff
>obesity is caused by over consumption of calories
scoff
>Your body is extremely bad at storing carbohydrate as fat
scoff
>the fat you eat is the fat you wear
scoff

>>41359007
It's not even a meme you dipfuck

Never heard of it in my life.

Learn wtf a 'meme' is.

Maybe it works though. Don't know.

>>41359007

No-sugar is pretty pointless unless you get down to 8-9% bodyfat and are trying to go lower, honestly. Cut sugar as much as you can but don't worry about it all that much.

>>41363625
>don't worry about the most dangerous legal toxin in existence all that much

>>41363633

>most dangerous legal toxin

Oh yeah you're right, my brother OD'd on sugar the other day, we all warned him about that last doughnut :'(

>>41363665
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_toxicity

>>41359007
It's real. I quit sugar about 3 months ago and feel way better now, focus better and lost a few lbs

>>41363681

That's weird, my browser loaded a page totally unrelated to sugar being toxic.

Personal anecdote. I tried no sugar for a month, and after two weeks, I was craving chocolates and sweets so fucking hard. I never experienced this in my life, I would be salivating seeing someone eating a fucking donut. I'm not a fat ass either, if anything , I was an underweight skelly at the time.

But once I go over the hump, I felt so much better overall. It was almost as if my body was just running on the sugar I was eating, and now it was getting used to fucntioning without the constant sugar rush.

>>41359969
>I was eating nuts all day

>>41359374
Hello food industry

>>41363104
>Actually sugar is one of the most addictive substances.
Nope. It isn't addictive at all. That's liek saying salt is addicive, you idiot.

>Rats become addicted to sugar quicker than literal heroin.
Nope.

American education - the thread.

>>41364411
You literal retard

>>41364411

>Sugar isn't addictive

You are an idiot

>>41364445
>>41364425
Americans, please.

>Where does the idea of sugar addiction come from? “In experimental research on animals approximately ten years ago, scientists starved laboratory rats and then gave them a choice between normal rat food and sugared water. Well, of course you know what they chose. Sugar is tasty and is preferred to other types of food. What the scientists saw in the strong response to this sugar water was an increased dopamine level (a neurotransmitter in the brain), just like in cocaine addiction. One and one make two, they concluded: sugar is just as addictive as drugs. The media picked it up and exaggerated it by two. It was announced as ‘the truth’. But dopamine rises with everything that you like: a lovely hot shower, a gift that you really like, a good film, sex, and food. The difference with drug addiction is that eating sugar do not cause a structural change in the brain, it doesn’t manipulate the brain like drugs do.”

The hard truth is this: Your diet is shit, your body craves fast energy because you are torturing him. Sweet=fast energy. And that is all.

But Americans always want a scapegoat.

>>41363559
>BUT a lot of fat destroys de kidneys and liver
I thought fat is good

>>41365094
Nothing is good in excess.

>>41361760
Fructose and sucrose are the same thing
glucose is what your body creates from carbs and sugars

Carbs is your slow-release glucose source
it gives you a steady release of energy throughout your day

sugar is your fast-acting glucose source
it gives you a boost of energy (which is your insulin spiking) and then lowers your energy for a while after (your insulin scrambling to replace all the sugar it just burned up)

I have no problems with cutting sugar out of my diet, but should I also cut salt?