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Lose belly fat?

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When I sit down I look gross. I used to be a lot fatter up until a few years ago when I started dieting and lifting and lost a good amount of weight. But I stopped at my current form.

I weigh 150 pounds, I'm 6 ft tall and I've been going to the gym 3-4 times a week for the last two months. I do 30 minutes on the treadmill. 5 minutes of jogging and 1 minute of sprints alternating. I also do 30-45 minutes of lifting afterwards. And I also keep my caloric intake under 2000 calories a day and eat pretty damn healthy.

What am I doing wrong /fit/? And what do you guys recommend I do to cut this extra belly and chest fat that continues to plague me??

Thank you for responding in advance
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Inb4
>hairy af.

I know senpai. Just need help getting more fit currently
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>>41279900
Jesus fuck lose the hair you fucking metrosexual bear
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>>41279920
Hahahah. It looks better when I'm standing. Everything looks better when I'm standing. But I will do extra manscaping I guess.
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>>41279900
You didn't say anything about your diet
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you are skinnyfat bro, add muscle and lose fat
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holy fuck your nips are HUGE lad

I have the same problem but not nearly as bad, losing weight is the only solution and even then you will still have tiny rolls
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>>41279900
trim that shit ffs
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>>41279900
You have fucking huge nipples. Other than that just keep doing what you're doing, two months is nothing.
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>>41279934
I eat home cooked meals. Little carb per meal. Small breakfast. Usually a protein bar.

Lunch I eat a sandwich or chicken or something simple with a little bit of rice.

Dinner is same style of meal.

Little fried / oily foods.

And I eat vegetables and fruits (less than I eat vegetables)
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>>41279939
>>41279949
You're right lads. My nips are huge. It's a damn shame because my body and nipples look gorgeous when they're small and cold. God really fucked my body up in small ways (or should I say 'big' ways ;))
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How the fuck are you 6 ft 150 lbs and look like that? I'm 6 ft 180 DYEL and I still look much better than that.

You say you eat under 2,000 cal a day, but what are you eating? What do you're macros look like?
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>>41279900
>150 lbs at 6 foot
>look like that

something isn't adding up here.
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>>41279937
That's my problem bro. I'm trying to lose fat but it seems like the fat left on my body is holding on for dear life.

On the treadmill I jog at 6.5 level speed (desu not sure if the levels are universal for all treadmills or not) and run at 9.5 for the sprint
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>>41279950
You need to eat more. Sounds like your metabolism is running cold. Also start taking caffeine pills.
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No way are you 150lbs and 6ft

You're either shorter or heaver, or have literally no muscle
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>>41279977
This was a problem I think. When I was losing weight I was really concerned about diet. So I think I was undereating. But I think my current diet is better (I hope).

Is there a certain type of diet that would be beneficial for losing fat and increasing definition?
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>>41279986
>>41279968
I'm not fucking with you guys. I know it's fucked up. I'm definitely weak and lacking in the muscle department. I've been working on that these past two months. I was in high school back when I lost a good amount of weight. But I definitely wasn't working out efficiently. I think it's much more efficient now.

But damn I swear there's got to be a better way to trim the fat down
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>>41279900
How the fuck are you 150lbs? I am a 5'7 manlet and I am 165lbs nearly 10% bf.

Just how?!
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>>41279986
This, stop lying OP
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>>41280002
Then you need to lift more m8
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>>41279968
>>41280002
I still think you're bullshitting. 150 lbs at 6 foot should be skelly/auschwitz mode, yet you look like an obese manlet.

If you aren't, the only way to "trim the fat down" is to lose weight. And no, there is no way to "target" any fat. Stomach fat is usually the last to go.
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>>41280004
>>41280005
Guys I grew up eating whatever the fuck my dad fed me.
I didn't like exercise or sports. I sat on my stupid ass growing up.

I'm a fatty to the core. I need to fix this shit fucking asap.
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>>41280002
Get on a scale now and timestamp, or GTFO troll
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Could someone give me a good cardio routine that really targets fat burning. I'm ready to kick my ass and get the perfect body I want.

Something, like some kinda PDF with quality cardio exercises and descriptions or something
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>>41280021
There's 150lbs in the OP, did you mean 250lbs by any chance? Or 180?
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>>41280037
Read the sticky.

1. Eat less
2. Workout more.

That'll get you skinny. Then getting muscle is another thing.
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>>41280025
Here you go you fucks.

Keep in mind I ate food and I'm wearing clothes so it says 153. Also 150 was my weight two months ago before I hit the gym
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>>41279900

Nice dubs OP. I'd suck those nips.
In other news, reduce your calorie intake to 1,800 per day. Record all your intake in MyFitnessPal. Work out 4 days per week, and have rest days in between, don't do 4 days working out and then 3 rest days.

Do you have any weights?

Make sure what you're eating, even at a calorie deficit, is healthy food (i.e. fruit, veg, nuts, legumes, beans, meat substitutes, etc.).
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>>41280072
Conclusion: you are not 6ft tall
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gotta cut more bro. thats some stubborn ass belly you got there and those meme protein bars are only feeding it
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>>41280087
You are not 6 ft, but I really don't see the issue here, you have to much fat so you have to reduce your calorie intake and exercise
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>>41280118
lol why are you sucking in

either way, not 6 foot
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>>41280087
Well good luck. cut out alcohol completely for one. Stop smoking weed
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>>41280094
Promise you I am. I have nothing to gain from this information being shared with annonymous people. You may short and pissed at the world but I'm not. So please help me improve my pudgy body or gtfo senpai
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>>41280118

pinch your shoulders back more, you've spent too much time in a computer chair leaning forward.
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looks like his knees are about the same height as his bed, meaning he's more accurately 5'9ish
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>>41280130
I fapped to your boobies
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>>41280097
How many calories you think I should take a day?>>41280132
I have posture problems. Tbh I have minor scoliosis. But it's been bothering more and more as of late. Might need to go to the doctors for that soon. My friend had scoliosis and spinal surgery. His posture is normal now. And he grew an inch I think.
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>>41280094
>>41280107
Different guy here but I'm 5"6 manlet and when I cut down to 150 I looked skinny as fuck guy has to be shorter or literally no muscle mass
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>>41280147
No muscle mass bro. I'm benching 25 lb dumbbells right now.
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>>41279900
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>>41279920
>lose the hair you fucking metrosexual
No John you are the demons.
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>>41280159
So do you ever drink your own milk for the gains?
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>>41279900
this is now /bear/ general
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>>41280159
>tfw you tit fuck him and your dick catches on fire from the friction caused by the hairs
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Also op, check your scale accuracy. It could be drastically under weighing.
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>>41280157
Post your calves and wrists OP.
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>>41279900
>for the last two months

stopped reading.
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>>41280159
>>41280173

These tits arouse me.
No homo.
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>>41279900
more incoming
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>>41280173
MODS!!!!!!
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>>41280185
How much time do you think it'll take before the fat is cut down a significant amount? I appreciate your response bro. >>41280183
Why?
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>>41279900

There's no chance in hell you weigh 150
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>>41280194
Will help us calculate your lean muscle potential and TDEE
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>>41280194
you may see yourself as gross but you are a prime piece of meat for homosexuals
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>>41280203
I do!! It makes no sense dude but I do. What the fuck is my body even. I'm just shapes at this point. Lord save me
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>>41280215
I have wicked thin wrists actually.
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>>41280232
>>41280118
>>41279900
Thanks for the laughs OP
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>>41279900
>I weigh 150 pounds, I'm 6 ft tall

I'm 100 pounds heavier than you and you look almost as fat as me, and you have boobs too. What the fuck?
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>>41279900
HOLY FUCK YOU NEED TO SHAVE!!!!

www.ergo-log.com/waxedmen.html
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>>41280157
You have two options ahead of you one is to bite the bullet bulk up to 200 odd over 18-24 months and make sure you hit 1/2/3/4 for minimum of 5 reps then cut down.

Other option is keep doing more cardio and lose even more weight.

Dunno which one is better but I would go for option one and that's because I live in Scotland and I can wear a t shirt a week or two all year so not bothered with bulking bod.
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>>41280259
I don't know dude
This sucks :(
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>>41280194
at least a year. and you will need to push yourself.
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>>41280276
You're right. I'm gonna have to go really hard. Fuck I hate cardio
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>>41279961
same here, have exact nipples as you in heat but when cold they're tiny and handsome
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>>41280173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtN7BBNzwT8
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>>41279900
low carb.
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>>41280283
If you're narcissistic at all, jogging shirtless outside is a really good method of getting over the "I hate cardio" thing.

Just a suggestion. Only reason I run at all is because people honk at me as I run outside and it really gets my dick hard.
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Best routine to get a shredded/ defined body?
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>>41280276
Do you think my current treadmill routine will be effective over the course of a year?
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>>41280380
You're weak as shit so I'd do ss for 6-7 months then do any ppl
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>>41280444
Can you link me to the ss guide? I forgot what ss stands for. Haven't been on here in a minute
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>>41280340
>Only reason I run at all is because people honk at me as I run outside and it really gets my dick hard.

That's weird, to say the least. Maybe you should get an elliptical so people won't honk at you for getting hard.
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>>41280490
You haven't been on here for more than a minute
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>>41280380
>hi guize xD what's the best routine for aesthetics?
>someone recommends SS
OP bites the bait.

AHAHAHAH!!

This is why I love /fit/...

Yes, natural OP who doesn't take steroids, you can't just begin a high rep PPL or a bro-split or focus on chest and arms right away because that's what chicks want..., NO! LISTEN TO /FIT/... you first need to... lol.... build S T R E N G T H.

AHAHAHA!!!

SS claims another victim!

Enjoy your T-Rex status and women running away from you just because you listened to some anonymous troll on the internet. DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANNA DO, FAGGOT! DO YOUR RESEARCH!
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>>41279974
STOP TRYING TO LOSE FAT YOU FAGGOT

YOUR WEIGHT IS ALREADY AT AN OKAY LEVEL SO YOU WILL JUST GET MUSCLE WASTAGE AND YOU'LL NEED TO EAT SOMETHING RETARDED LIKE 1000-1500KCAL TO LOSE

BULK THEN CUT WILL YIELD YOU MUCH BETTER RESULTS THAN JUST CUTTING A FRAME THAT HAS NO FUCKING MUSCLE WHATSOEVER
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>>41280569
So should I continue do 30 minutes on the treadmill when I go to the gym? Or entirely focus on lifting? And how much you recommend I eat?

My thinking tho is, if I'm already hanging onto so much fat, shouldn't I cut now to lower my body fat? Explain your logic please, I'm interested
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>>41280569
You stupid dishonest sociopathic ignorant moronic delusional moron.

OP is FAT AS FUCK and you dare tell him not to lose fat?

I would smash your face with a hammer if I could right now, swear to God.

OP, you're fat as fuck. You need to lose weight and lift to retain muscle mass. You're a noob so you'll see consistent results for 1-2 years if... you're consistent.

STOP LISTENING TO TROLLS!!! THEY'RE FUCKING WITH YOU!!!
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>>41280597
What do you recommend I do for cardio?
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OP you seem ok so heres my special tip for you: carb cycling
also to go swiming
train HARD
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>>41280635
Why do want cardio? If it is to lose weight, it's totally unnecessary. If it's to be a healthy human bean, anything that gets your ass moving is good. You can walk a couple of hours, play tennis, football, ride a byke, skateboard, etc. You don't need the gym to do cardio. You just need to move your body. I would recommend walking an hour in the morning at a consistent pace 3 or 4 days a week. It's a very sustainable and healthy habit that works in the long. Everything that is a pain in the ass, that you feel is a chore, will ultimately wear you off. What works for you might not work for someone else. I like to listen to audio books on my headphones while I go for a long walk. 2 hours walking, I get home, lay on my bed and feel good. Do what you want, bro. Really. Find out what's the best cardio for you. What you like doing best... some people like running. Try it.
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>>41280597
FUCK OFF YOU DUMB CUNT

THIS NIGGER IS 150LBS AT 6FT. HIS PROBLEM IS THAT HE HAS NO FUCKING MUSCLE MASS. HE IS NOT OVERWEIGHT. TAKE THAT HAMMER AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ARSE AND TEAR OUT YOUR INTESTINES YOU FUCKING SHITSTAIN

OP, LIFT AT A SMALL CALORIC SURPLUS, THE FAT YOU HAVE WILL BE COMPLEMENTED BY BULK. THEN DROP YOUR WEIGHT AFTER YOU HAVE ANY MUSCLE MASS WHATSOEVER.
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>>41280688
I read into carb cycling but it seems too active of a process. Having to weigh out my carbs. I just eyeball and mentally calculate what I'm putting into my body. I eat small portions of carbs generally. I appreciate your help though.
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>>41280813
>I just eyeball and mentally calculate what I'm putting into my body.

Oh shit I feel a lot less bad for seeing you being trolled. You deserve it.
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>>41280779
6ft 150lbs is Skelly land. Op is skinny fat
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>>41280588
running is always good for cardiac health, keep it (but you'll need to eat more to make up for it)

calculate your TDEE and eat 300 kcals above it

My logic is that you are skinnyfat. If you were fat you'd be overweight/obese. You have a lot of fat and are at a normal weight simply because you have no muscle mass whatsoever. Cutting will only make you even weaker and look even more skinnyfat and emaciated.

On the other hand, doing a slow bulk won't make you look """fatter""", since you will be gaining muscle. You will gain fat, yes but you will look bulky and strong like a man.

I know this because I was in a similar situation 3 years ago and this is what I did.
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>>41280827
EXACTLY
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>>41280825
Why isn't eyeballing appropriate? If you're genuinely aware of what the calorie and food your consuming is I see no problem. I'm not trying to become a professional body builder. I just want to cut the extra fat.
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do cardio for more than 30 minutes and get your heart rate higher for a longer period of time. try a stationary bike.
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>>41280779
>THE FAT YOU HAVE WILL BE COMPLEMENTED BY BULK. THEN DROP YOUR WEIGHT AFTER YOU HAVE ANY MUSCLE MASS WHATSOEVER.

AHAAHAHAH!!!! 10/10 OP will believe it!!!

Shhh... just don't tell him it doesn't work that way for natties.

But oh well... I guess he still has a couple of years to find that out on his own.

Yes, OP... with the body you have right now, the solution is to consume more calories and lift weights because you see... the fat will magically disappear and be replaced by muscles... eheh... what?? only haters will doubt that works!!

And if you want big arms for the girls, don't forget to squat 3 times a week and don't need to works arms directly in the beginning because carrying weights around for your deadlifts will be enough. Ignore all the HATERS who will laugh at you for looking disgusting in 6 months from now... they probably don't even squat!!! AHAHAAHAH!!!
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>>41280828
I'm nervous to take your advice. I really don't wanna go back to being fat again. Is there no way to just lift and cardio without bulking up but still gaining muscle? I thought bulking was the process of gaining fat and working out and turning that fat into muscle, no?
If I'm right, then shouldn't I be able to gain muscle by working out and turning my skinny fat -> to muscle?

Or am I totally wrong about bulking?
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>>41280852
Different anon here,

What he is getting at is that you more than likely cannot tell the exact maco information from what you're eaing. That's why apps like MyFitnessPal are essential because they give you hard numbers and give you a breakdown of what you're eating.

If you think, "Eh I'm eating a fistfull of chicken breast and like a a cup of rice... that's probably like 250 calories." It's not scientific and you can't get accurate results or track properly whether or not you will be losing weight.
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>>41280898
Anyone please respond to this post. The guy I'm replying to is being accused for trolling so I don't know what to believe anymore.

If 4chan troll culture could give it a rest for the next 10 minutes and help a bro out I'd really appreciate it
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>>41280914
I see. Where do I begin with recognizing how much food I should be eating? Like how much carbs. And protein for my weight and fatness to lose weight and get thin?
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>>41280852
It's not just professional bodybuilders who count their calories, brother. The only way to effectively register the calories you consume is by weighing it and registering everything we eat. It might seem like a bore at the beginning but you get used to it. After a couple of months, you know the caloric values of almost everything. But you need to be OBSESSIVE about it, otherwise you'll fail. Judging by your lax attitude, I'd say you're the typical loser who won't amount to anything in life. Don't take it personally. Just an observation.

Zyzz, that roid-monkey, once said something very true:
>Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated
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>>41280931
MyFitnessPal has calculators that will set all that up for you. You put in your height and weight and your level of physical activity, and what your goals are. e.g "Lose 1 pound a week" Then it will give you an estimate of how much protein, carbs, fats and total calories you can eat for your given goal. Also it can take into account the calories you burn form exercising. So if you run for 45 minutes, you can put that in the app and it will subtract calories from your total intake.

Also you can look up that info on ideas of what people think is optimal. I honetly think it comes down to how food makes you feel and hiting the total calorie count for the day. Some people do really well on keto and others need tons of carbs. You'll have to experiment with all that stuff but for now I'd say just use the app recommendation until you research and learn enough to come up with your own goals
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>>41280944
I'm very dedicated in a lot of things just not specifically counting every calorie. But I guess I'll look into it and start making changes
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>>41280898
>I really don't wanna go back to being fat again.
You are fat.
>Is there no way to just lift and cardio without bulking up but still gaining muscle?
You can't build muscle on a caloric deficit, but a caloric surplus will mostly make you fat. You want to build muscles and the same time you burn fat you need to eat at maintenance and lift. Go to scooby's "most accurate calorie calculator" to find out your TDEE and your caloric objective. Tip: don't think in terms of 24 hours, but in weekly amounts of calories. Trust me. Or not, it's your choice.
>turning that fat into muscle
You can gain muscle at the same time you burn fat in the first 1-2 years of training, but FAT IS NEVER CONVERTED INTO MUSCLE PLEASE DON'T SAY THIS OUTLOUD TO ANYONE UNLESS YOU WANT PEOPLE TO LAUGH BEHIND YOUR BACK.

Eat 200 or 300 cals below your TDEE, keep lifting, and be CONSISTENT. Or... or... you can drop the weight fast and fuck up and gain it back in a couple of years because you think like a fat chick instead of thinking in terms of self-development and sustainable life changes.

Your choice.
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Lift then cardio. Not opposite way around.

But honestly you're not going to be putting on any muscle, maybe slightly since you're a beginner, if you're eating a deficit. If you are it won't be much/noticeable. I would eat a higher deficit if you're just looking to lose weight.

If you're trying to gain muscle/lose weight, which is 100% possible as a beginner regardless what these dumbasses will tell you then skip the cardio all together. Lift and eat at maintenance with a high protein diet. This will usually last for 3 months if you're putting the time in.

You're welcome.
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>>41280915
No one is trolling you. The guy who is telling you to bulk has good intentions and honestly believes what he's saying. The problem is he's wrong. The advice he's giving you works mostly for enhanced /fit/izens. You're a newbie who wants to feel less ashamed of going to the beach and getting naked in front of a woman. You need to lose fat first and foremost. That is your number one priority. I also recommend you lift and do cardio but don't be obsessive about it, what matters the most is diet and that's where you should be autistic, counting EVERY CALORIE that goes into your body.

I suggest you google "Lyle McDonald Body Recomposition" and read his articles. Be very skeptic with what you read on /fit/. Most advice is good and we debunk a lot of "common knowledge" like eggs are bad for you and so on... but when it comes to the subject of cutting / bulking you have a lot of kids advising kids so falsehoods get perpetuated.

Try bodybuilding.com and other sites but ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS pay attention to the fact that there is a world of difference between what works for steroids users (anything works) and what works for naturals. Google unimpressive but honest and natural fitness models like Radu Antonio and go from there.
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>>41281022
What is maintence considered? Is maintence based on the TDEE calculator thing everyone's mentioning?

And what do you mean by
>This will usually last for 3 months..
What will last?
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>>41281147
Does it matter which order i do it? Cardio then lift or vice versa?
How many calories should I be eating a day (with this protein based diet)?

Also thanks for your response. I really appreciate it
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>>41281185
Find your TDEE here:
http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/

On step 6, put "lose fat, gain muscle", then scroll down and find out your daily caloric objective. Be sure to adjust your numbers every time you lose 5 pounds.

I will tell you again: count the number of calories you eat a week, instead of daily calories. For instance, if your goal is 2000 calories a day, multiply by 7: if you eat less than 14000 calories a week you'll lose fat, no ifs no buts.

Meal timing is totally irrelevant for fat loss. Read the sticky and read the scientific sources.

>Does it matter which order i do it? Cardio then lift or vice versa?

I recommend you do cardio in your days off lifting. Otherwise, definitely do your cardio after lifting, always. But again, I recommend low impact cardio like walking on rest days.

Also, don't be obsessive about macronutrients but make sure you eat enough protein and drink shitloads of water. And I mean shitloads. Macros are important for professionals and models. Calories are everything, never forget that.
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>>41281288
Awesome thank you dude I'm looking into this now. Could you explain what macros are for a retard such as myself?
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>>41281387
You have MICROnutrients like vitamins and minerals and then you have groups of MACROnutrients like protein, carbs, fats, sugar, sodium (salt) and so on. Basically what you read on labels.

The only ones that matter to you is calories, for fat loss, and, to maintain muscle mass while you lose fat, protein. Aim for 0.5g of protein per lb, at least, but don't go overboard. Also, you don't need supplements of any kind but if you ever do, creatine is the only one I'd recommend, 5g a day. I don't use it personally, but 5g a day of creatine is the only supplement I'd recommend. With lots of water.

Good luck, bro. Just remember to always keep it simple and casual. Results come with time and consistency.
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>>41281288
I'm on the calculator right now but I don't know what to type in for step 10. I don't really know my protein % and macro % and fat %
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>>41279900
SS + GOMAD
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>>41281461
Everything below step 6 is optional, pay no attention to it. Also, don't pay attention to the number of meals per day, that only matters for bodybuilders and diabetics.

I recommend on step 5 you leave "sedentary lifestyle" even you lift here and there. These calculators tend to be very effective but given the time it takes to see results I recommend you leave it "sedentary lifestyle" and then just reduce 200-300 cals. Think long-term: 6 months, 1 year.

It's the only way to avoid loose skin and stretch marks. Time is your best ally.
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>>41281500
Ok I did it. Here are the results. So for daily calories should I take off about 200-300 calories off that number?
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>>41279989
Nigger just count ur calories and no u can't spot reduce
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How was winter OP? Did OP caught enough moose before the hibernation?
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>>41279900
no way to target fat but to better burn fat try doing intervals as opposed to long sessions of cardio. Instead of just jogging for thirty minutes, try hill sprints or get on the bike with alternations between high and low intensity.
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Sexy body op
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>>41280221
>>41279900
>>41280002
I believe you, I have the same problem, used to be fat, gotten skinny too fast, now I'm 6 feet and weigh 115 pounds, but still look fat (stomach, that is, everything else is bones), due to under-eating, muscles just disappeared.
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>>41282211
I burn about 330 calories when I do interval training on the treadmill for 30 minutes. Good or bad? Am I not pushing myself hard enough to be burning fat?
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>>41282376
Fuck. That's accurate to me.

Were you able to fix it at all?
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>>41282420
No. It's hard to build muscle and anything I eat just sticks to the stomach, cardio doesn't help.
Only thing that helps is not eating, but then I lose even more muscle and feel like shit.
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>>41282469
>>41282420
But, I think you and me both should eat more (less carbohydrates) and stick to the eating plan.
But for me this is hard, because I'm poor and can't afford healthy food and a normal meal intervals.
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>>41282533
Damn that's rough dude. Yeah I guess I'm just gonna see how this goes
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