>>41279350 doing SS and not straight into PPL

>>41279350
Why would you say 5/3/1 was a waste of time?

If you have regrets about training and you've been Lifting for less than a year, then you're a giant faggot and you're never going to make it anywhere anyways.

>>41279392
Post your physique

How could anyone regret spending time on ohp

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starting on meme PPL as a skellington and not gaining base strength with SS/SL before

>>41279403
No. I don't post pictures of myself on the internet.

I weigh 193 lbs. I run 10k in 43 minutes, a mile in 6 minutes, and my lifting stats are 475/320/585 currently. I have no training regrets besides occasionally visiting this shithole

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>>41279350
>wasted time doing PPL for nearly a year after I made my noob gains on that Reg Park 5x5 routine instead of doing TM+accessories
>waste time coming to this terrible board which has zero useful advice besides the very occasional tidbit which might be of some small amount of use to a complete beginner
>feel like I'm wasting time atm and have been the past 2 years by not /fraud/ing, currently researching a blast to start out with to change that

>>41279350
please elaborate on you dislike of 5/3/1, I just started doing it

>>41279605
Read the fucking book

If you're thinking about bailing on it because some Anonymous faggot on the internet said something bad about it then you probably shouldn't run it in the first place

>>41279511
Lol that neck on bottom right

>>41279511
negative canthal tilt, the image, literally everyone but luimarco

>>41279511
what are you trying to say with this picture

>>41279746
literally didn't even notice latsbrah had this until I saw pic and check youtube channel, now I can pinpoint why he is ugly, b4 i wuz confuse

>>41279388
>>41279605
http://startingstrength.com/article/into-the-great-wide-open-the-texas-method-and-5-3-1

>>41279605
Not OP and I don't dislike 5/3/1 but it relies on accessory lifts for virtually all of your volume and without joker sets the strength work is too light to really be effective.

The Juggernaut Method is IMO better because it fixes those things while keeping a lot of the really good things about 5/3/1

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>>41279605
pic related

sports use an hlm or nebraska model from ppst3rd or use original bfs program or maybe lsus 10-5-3

barbell sports use tm for powerlifting or hybrid oly from ppst3rd or lsus 10-5-3 for weightlifting or maybe bfs with some main lift choices

to look good, use lyle mcdonald generic bulk or aworkoutroutine.com muscle builder

wendler is a ripoff artist and his programs suck don't give him time or money

>>41279929
>wendler is a ripoff artist and his programs suck don't give him time or money
Jim had to simplify shit for retards who are too stupid to go into the gym and work hard. Don't blame a man for putting food on his table.

>>41279511
PPL literally best routine fag

>>41280010
>anything is the best routine
depends on what your goals are and if you're /fraud/ing (and what gear you're on if you are) and your height and frame and other genetic factors
there's no one size fits all routine that works for every goal and every person you utter retard

>>41280046
Keep doing SS

>>41280058
>implying I'm doing SS
a tall framecel beginner wanting to gain strength would get a lot out of SS but that's not me

What's the best routine for aesthetics? I'm coming out of beginner now.

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>>41279929
Currently doing 5/3/1 For the main lifts on PHUL 4 days a week with cardio six days. I only do 5/3/1 on Monday and Tuesday the power days and Thursday Friday I do hypertrophy work so I'm not going for power. Working pretty well so far with that.

But don't do 5/3/1 the way wendler approaches it, I wasted three months on it and added 5 pounds to my bench.

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>>41280121

You mean
>/fit/ disgusting roid-monkey "aesthetics"
or
>real world will-get-you-laid A E S T H E T I C S?

I can give you the latter:

Consistency 5x10

Bicep Curls 3x10

Time and patience 10x15

Low body fat 1xFAILURE

>>41280184
wendler took a good program and fucked it
at least greyskull and stronglifts didn't fuck up their ripoffs too much

>>41280121
lyle mcdonald generic bulk or aworkoutroutine.com muscle builder