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90% blogging 10% steroids general

read all of http://reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki before asking your absolutely retarded questions. no exceptions.

ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK

previously on stomach swirls general: >>41244055
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>>41257107
I tried
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>>41257200
"That's cool, are you down to smash or not"?

It's tinder dude who gives a fuck?
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so what is the actual effect of doing keto on dnp? everyone says different things on reddit, where no one has actually used dnp on /r/steroids, and everyone who has actually used it is 300lbs on /r/dnp and lies about their food intake anyway.

does it make you crave carbs less? or more?
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Do you agree about using "cutting roids" during bulk and "bulking steroids" during cutting is superior to the norm?
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How safe is clenbuterol for fat loss and what is the recommended dosage? Is it effective?
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>>41257238
There's no such thing.
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I'm on Tren. I want to add mass to my abs. What abdominal exercises can I do that I can increase the weight with to increase the muscle breakdown to encourage growth?
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>>41257183
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I never realized how much free food I got offered at work til I started pmsf

>>41257200
Lmao
What a bitch
"Im not a sex object Im just on a dating site to be filled by massive cocks"

Say that to black chicks
Black chicks love dakis
Told some over twitter where to buy them

Also buy more dakis and delete your tinder youre going the wrong way
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>forgot to take cialis and viagra in advance
>girl is going to be here in 10 minutes
fuck

guess it's time for 30 minutes of foreplay
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>>41257513
Nigga get some kamagra jelly, it's cheaper and acts in less than 15 minutes
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>>41257183
how long should i lift before doing my first cycle? im coming up on 1 year of lifting and i want to do a beginner test cycle. will i fuck up my tendons, etc? i'm in my late 20s so there's no concern with regards to my growth plates, etc.
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I just realized that since I switched back from one routine to the ol' Arnold Split, I haven't started deadlifting again. I'm gonna have to get in on that tomorrow and see if I can hit any PR's.
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>>41258342
>I haven't started deadlifting again
please do

dont let these dyels convince you dls are a meme
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>>41258410
I was doing Serge Nubrets routine, and there was no deadlifting. I forgot to add it back into my new routine lmao

Hopefully gonna make sick forearm and trap gains on this tren
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>>41256486
Fugg. That pic caught me off guard. Looks uncannily like my little sister.
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>>41258503
sure it does

give jerry her number
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If I add tren to TRT will it show up on my bloods?
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>>41258912
depends whats being tested. but 80% of the lab reqs Id say yes
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Just a tip for the new guys about make a huge mistake and buy high concentration test in the future. Don't do it. Stick with a 300mg/ml mix and if you do happen to buy 500mg/ml, be sure to buy sterile filtered gso and cut it or you will have extremely painful test crystals in your muscles for a good week.
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>>41258964
or come into the 21st century and inject yourself subcutaneously gramps
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tfw putting 5mg anavar in gfs cereal every morning so she can fulfill my musclefu fetish. she keeps complaining about tight muscles kek.
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>>41259011
haha
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>>41258990
injecting 1ml+ of test subq is asking for an abscess.

whats wrong anon? cant handle that deep IM injection?
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>>41259069
thanks for the diagnosis dr.broscience
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Is anavar a waste of money
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>read old dnp cycle reports
>mfw some of them just suddenly stops
h-haha jokes on them I'm only going for 250ed
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>>41259098
are you a grill
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>>41259119
Yeah that freaked me out a bit too. Especially when I went to their profile and they haven't made any posts since the thread asking about DNP.
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>>41259126
I'm dyel male so basically
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>>41259132
>his last post ever
>"guys I've haven't felt so good since I increased the dosage to 400, gonna go back to 200 again"
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>>41259158
>haha dont worry bro im only taking 500mg im not crazy enough to take 1g
>peaks at 1.3g
>dies
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>sweating like a pig sitting still with a fan blowing on me due to dnp
>gf texts me she's horny and coming over
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>get $ off my health insurance if I track steps
>running ed
Theyre going to end up paying me to insure me

God bless fatties, making this shit necessary

>>41258503
How little we talkin?
Post her armpits
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>>41259196

from this chart, it seems like 125mg would be the best option
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Is it unethical to give my dog tren? Obviously it's safe for animals because it's made for cattle. What's a good dose if he's 150 lbs?
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Gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time with a 600-800cal deficit of Test E and Var

Possible?
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How do you get rid or stop having muscle pumps on tren? I'm 5 weeks in, with test e trt weekly. I keep getting these fucking intense abdominal pumps. Feels awful! I have to stop everything I'm doing and lay prone on the floor for a min for it to subside. Internet is telling me its a hydration, potassium or magnesium issue. Any anons get these? What helps?


On the positive side, leaner than i was when i was a teenager so fuark yeh!
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>>41259469
tfw want to blast tren while on TRT but dont want to pin every day
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>"anon why is your cum yellow... and why does it smell like fertilizer?"
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Hi guys.

I'm having a lot of problems at my gym with people. Remember I said the PTs were real dyel? Well one of them (skinniest one) is telling everyone that would listen that "hurr durr This guy uses steroids and lies to people that he doesn't". All I wanted was to make some friends at the gym but now this guy is telling people that I'm a liar and stuff and they hate me at the gym. This PT , like 5'2" 110 lbs, dislikes me because he thinks I use steroids, so he follows me around and just slams the weights as loud as he can next to me to try to intimidate me.

But of course I don't use steroids. That's why I'm such a skinny little bitch that he feels comfortable to try and intimidate me.

There is a couple guys at the gym on steroids, people just leave them alone. Because they're intimidating. Guys that use steroids are intimidating. No one tries to bully them. No one tries to push them around.

Being natural sucks, people at the gym try to bully you and accuse you of using steroids. But if you do use steroids, no one accuses you of using steroids. If they asked me why I was making good progress, I would tel them to eat sugar after they worked out, which is what Bimbo told me to do, and it works for sure, because I'm making progress. But instead they just try to bully you and slam weights next to you to compensate for being 5'2. Wow.

I don't wanna be natural anymore I don't think. I'm tired of people pushing me around.

Side note. Rows fixed my posture, and I gained 3+ inches of height.

6'1" 185 lbs

The guys in the gym that use steroids have forearms like tree trunks. If you have forearms like tree trunks, no one tries to bully you. I've been doing mast's wrist roller until there are tears in my eyes, every single day, to try to get big enough forearms that people don't try to bully me anymore. But it doesn't work, no matter how hard I do it. I actually do it until I cry, every single time, and look.

Look at my forearms. You could bully this guy.
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>>41259477
tren e is a thing...
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>>41259477
I'm actually fond of daily pinning. I'm a nurse so it's kind of fun to pretend like I'm my own swole doctor giving me daily shots of that golden sweat of the gods. I'm pretty meticulously with pinning. 23 1.5in guage for quads and ventros, 25g and sometimes 23 1in for delts. I could pin every day for years. Just rotate sites. There are like 4 sites for each quad
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>>41259377
Yeah. Increase workload, clean up diet and increase calories though
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>>41259743
Hm, alright. I currently do a PPLPPLx with one cardio day on my rest day, getting 1800cals (high protein, medium fat, low carb). My TDEE is about 2600ish. Should that be good?
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What exactly is wrong with roiding when you're dyel?
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>>41260110
You might make someone with a weak ego feel bad by surpassing them, and then even with steroids they'd be a lame nobody.
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>tfw bought a cycle 8 months ago
>tfw still haven't used it

Is it too late now?
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>>41260178
scared 2 pin u little bitch? hahahaha little boy man..
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>>41259218
Just wear it on your hand while you masturbate.
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>>41260188
:( yes
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getting slightly emotional (slightly tearing up) about feeling so good while on test e, e2 getting high or just test finally kicking in?
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>>41259011
That's a sin.

>>41259098
Unless you're a girl or other cutting agents don't work for you, yes. Var is v expensive

>>41259218
She's about the same age as the girl in the pic. Not you're type.

>Wonder if I can post anzu's without getting banned.
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>>41260207
>slightly emotional
>e2 getting high
Dont become a woman anon
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Planning on giving a new source a go. He seems genuine and wants bloods done. I'm thinking of getting private bloodwork done again.

What would /fraud/ expect back for getting bloodwork done for a sauce?
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Not source related

How do you guys screen a source? i mean i got three diffrent "suppliers" and i want to know more about if they are reputable but all i find is other schmucks like me who say they are good.

tl.dr
How to get close to lab grade stuff?
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>>41257354
Weighted ab crunches. Russian twists with weights
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>>41260576
50% off your order
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>>41260604
Make it yourself (if legal to do so ;^)). Mexicans in the 50s and 60s were making it out of soy ffs.

You could also send it to get analyzed somewhere, there's also sometimes a handful of tests where it should be a certain ph or density or do something when heated to a certain temperature and so on. I dunno specifics tho, I thought this was an Oly general tbqh.
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>>41259241
No it's not obvious. Things like the renal systems vary a hell of a lot. Think about this: cats can drink salt water fine but die when exposed to lilies. Chocolate is bloody poisonous to dogs.

If you're desperate to do it, at the very least get an education of the canine renal system and more general shit like the typical mammalian muscle growth pathways and what tren does in relation to that. Unless tren is somehow your pets last hope of living a couple more years of a happy life (it won't be) don't use it as a lab animal. If something goes wrong you'd have to put him down yourself, that takes a very specific mindset that I would hope you don't want to have with a pet.
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I want to shed off a few pounds of fat after my blast before I go away on a trip. I would us dnp but I work in a steel plant so it would probably kill me. Should I just bite the bullet and do t3/clen or just t3?
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>>41260733
/fraud/ is a lot cooler.
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I wasted a whole week of my 16 week cycle. I wasn't drinking but i playing video games like an autist and didn't work out. I uninstalled all of them. Garbage is addicting.

Any of you guys cope with this stuff? All I can do now is focus on the remaining time I have (plenty) but I feel so ashamed. I will never play another video game in my life again i swear. I'm 18 and that's too old.

I easily lost muscle and gained fat. Probably enough to offset the first week of my cycle.
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>>41260884
Everything in moderation man. You're like the fatties who get an epiphany and then throw out all their soda and chocolate and then 2 days later completely cave in and binge.

That's what you're going to do. You're going to go for a short while and then cave. Video games are absolutely fine. You need your down time and release but moderation is key. Give yourself hard limits on how long you can play for and stick to them.
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>>41260576
Ive gotten free vials or $100 aud credit
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>>41261077
Kind of, I actually uninstalled em a week ago but then installed one to pass time and BOOM relapse.

I remember when I was in high school I almost never played video games because I always had some sport to practice for. I gotta have that dedication now.
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is boldenone any good senpai ?
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>>41261134
>Eternal hunger
>Blood thicker than syrup
>won't give bitch tits that bad
>Low but quality mass
>Won't look like a water balloon
>Turn into a horse

Stack with tren and/or mast for good synergy.
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>>41259599
Stop being gay and just ignore people. People look for reactions, if you stop giving reactions they'll stop doing stupid shit.
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>>41261177
But in order to ignore people, properly, feeling little to nothing about their stupid shit you need to stop caring about people. Not just being selective with it too, stop caring about everyone.
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>>41261237
This doesnt mean be cold or unkind either.
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>>41261237
>>41261245
what


>MODS PLEASE DONT BAN ME THE ANZU IS RELEVANT TO THE POST AS IT VISUALLY DEMONSTRATES MY CONFUSION ON THE STATEMENT
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>>41261289
You cannot ignore people if you value others, while you may not react and starve them of what they crave you still feel something to what they have done or said...So you havent ignored their shit you just havent reacted.

and why are you being banned for posting the transvestite?
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>>41259763
Aw, no answer? I'm assuming my cals can work, I'll give it a go
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>>41261289
Puts a cross in his trip
Uses the 666 muh Satan meme image

Man I'd hate to be you when I die anon.

Mfw they'll think I'm a christfag for saying this and post more le edgy devil shit.
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>>41261317
>So you havent ignored their shit you just havent reacted.

Well that's just internal semantics. Your assumption is that ignorance is a personal virtue rather than perceived. Ignorance can be both perceived and personal. To the third party observer, either one will do the job.

>and why are you being banned for posting the transvestite?
ANZU IS NOT TRANSVESTITE. ANZU IS A GIRL.

I spam posted a ton of Anzu's in the previous thread because it was dead and some butthurt faggot reported me.
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>>41261383
>Uses the 666 muh Satan meme image

The fuck are you going on about m8?
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Tell me about caber. Does it make you want to fuck everything that moves?
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>>41260110

Its not wrong, its just that there is the possibility that you are going to buy illegal substances, put your body in danger and have all this hassle and then make 0 gains because you are a noob and dont have the discipline to lift like you are supposed to do.

I have a dyel friend who started his first cycle 1 month ago and hes already saying "man i fucking hate going to the gym". If he lifted for atleast a year natty and made gains, it is certain that he would never think about quitting or skipping sessions.

So tl:dr if you are a 100% sure you will stay focused and follow your routine without exception, then go ahead do it.
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Second run of DNP in the last 6 months. Ran only 250mg for 7 days before getting crazy hives despite taking benadryl a few days before and throughout the cycle. Now bloated af on prednisone and it sucks ass. Was very careful with the supps I was taking and drank plenty of water and everything... just wasn't meant to be boys.
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>>41261422
Caber is to Prolactin as Aromasin is to Estrogen

It's to control the levels caused by certain compounds. Tren supposedly makes you want to fuck everything that moves, but if you don't properly dose the caber/AI with it, you'll be limp dick joe.
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>>41259119
I did a dnp cycle.

TAKE BENADRYL

Lots of people overlook this. Had a gnarly histamine release. Hands swollen, fever, and throat swelled up so bad I almost couldn't breathe.
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>>41259119
> be me
> have eczema (dermatagraphia)
> go through about 10 pills a day just so my skin doesn't feel like it's on fire
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>>41261422
Caber doesn't make you want to fuck anything. It doesn't enhance libido. It just makes sure your libido doesn't go to shit.
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>>41261604
>not actually setting your skin on fire to SHOCK THE BODY and confuse it into getting better
step it up senpai.
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On 600mg test pw and 0.25mg adex e3d, having issues with stiff joints, low estrogen?
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>>41261420
check the filesize
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>>41262387
0.25 e3d shouldn't be too much in general but everyone reacts differently. Go to 0.125 e3d and see how it goes.
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>>41261604
you ever had a staph infection with eczema? I was biting my hands and punching walls and shit just to distract myself
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which color would u buy?
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>>41262497
idk fag
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>>41262578
Please DON'T bully me.
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>>41262497
The white on black contrast looks pretty good.
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>>41262497
>sandals
dude gross
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>>41262497
Which color matches your fanny pack?
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npp solo is the best side free blast ever

for anyone whos ever had problems with estro and dead dick, try this
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>>41262497
Top right
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>>41262756
>nandrolone with no testosterone
>functional penis
Pick one
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>>41262592
I like the white kind too but I'm scared the white color will get dirty easily
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>>41262497
I'm not an autist sorry I can't help you with that shoewear
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>>41262821
it works much better than it did on test, i take 9mg asin ED on 600mg npp EW and its PERFECT

nandrolone converts to estro 1/5 the rate test does
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>>41259599
>nobody minds their own fuckin business
Are you in Europe?
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>>41262847
Why bully?
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>>41259011
Piece of shit, I hope you get caught.
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>>41262869
>http://www.ergo-log.com/nantest.html

stop lying
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>>41262497
None. They're all pretty ugly.
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>>41262888
because it's a swedish holiday today and I don't have any friends to celebrate it with so I make cunny posts like this on 4chan at home in my bed instead
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>>41262895
you have to weigh sides and quality of life bro

with test i get acne and bitchy

gains from nandrolone are also very solid, just wont keep you lean like test
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>>41262904
Oh ok. I love you. Sandals are comfortable and easy to wear. They can look good with a relaxed outfit (not cargo shorts)! I wish you happy times on this holiday and I wish I could be there to clap your hand and make you feel good about existing.
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what can happen if i take too much caber?

I'm on 750 tren e 250 test e/week, and i'm not having the easiest time finding a sweet spot for caber dosage. Any tips on dosage? Been taking 0.25mg ed, seems to be doing the trick now, but what do i look for when it comes to prolactin and caber usage?
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Is there a point to do HCG during a test prop cycle? My dick feels fine after 4 weeks of pinning.
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do any of you regret roiding?
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>>41264167

I would also love the answer to this.. any of u know anyone who just done a few basic cycles and hs regrets? If so why
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>>41264167
no, best decision of my life
my only regret is not hopping on sooner
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>>41263350
Take as little as possible where you don't get any noticeable sides from prolactin.
Sides from too much are reflux, feeling sick, abdominal complaints, headaches etc. Tho it's probably gonna be hard to tell what's 'too much'..
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>>41264351
I did 1 half cycle (wont go into detail but personal circumstances where I had to cut short and go into pct halfway), I regret only not having just done a full cycle back then and will do so any way soon.
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>>41263713
Hcg is not for your dick its to recover faster after you stop the cycle. As long as you're cycling there's always a point to hcg its just its not absolutely necessary and sorta costly.
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>>41264167
lets see
>0- 21 yo
>virgin, no gf, not even once, not even close


>22 yo
>get on gear
>8 hookups
>1 gf

no, no dont regret it at all
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>>41264167
Steroids saved my life
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>>41264167
I regret not doing tren from day 1 of my first cycle. Once you're on tren nothing else compares.
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>lost 5 lbs in a week on DNP
>weigh myself a couple days later
>2 of the lbs are back

???????????
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>>41264821
you were ehydrated
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Faurk brehs. Hug your QTs because this guy will never get to again. Just found out he died in Iraq. Love ya Wes.
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>>41264821
>still another week to go
>losing motivation to continue
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give me your /sexual/ tips, /fraud/

>inb4 don't be a dicklet
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>>41264835
Hope it was worth losing everything just to die for Israel.
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>>41264835
thanks for your sacrifice goy president trump and the state of israel thanks you
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>>41264835
Who dis and why it relevant here?
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>>41264622
>roiding for pussy
omega ass motherfucker

>>41264821
water rentention, don't look at the scale and don't look at the mirror

>>41264869
don't spoil a bitch
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>>41265194
everything men do is for pussy, welcome to biology.
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>>41265214
explain faggots then huh

checkmate
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>>41265225
you mean people whose behaviour makes them fail to reproduce? yeah....
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>>41265225
boypussy

Checkcheckmate
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>>41265255
not always, most fags reproduce and get sick of pussy and turn to fucking men instead

>>41265259
ayyyy
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>>41261159
would it be worth using warfarin with it?
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>>41265225
dysfunctional individuals
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Would this just be a simple low test/med tren 20 week cycle or am i going to need another compound?
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>>41265484
you're a dysfunctional individual if you need drugs to slam some ham brother
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If I have gyno from puberty will that increase my chances of my estrogen skyrocketing while taking 500 mg of test enanthate every week?
Will I need to take an AI everyday or just way until I get high estrogen symptoms?
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>>41264835
>some fat old ugly manlet tells you to go to some country on the other side to the world and kill people there
>deep in your heart you know there is no point of you being here
>dead because of that fat ugly manlet now
>had the best time of your life
>good looking
>lots of friends
>relationships
>family is now sad as fuck
>friends crying over their loss
>the one and only life you will ever have is now wasted
>because some fat ugly manlet told you so

remember that the army is for imbecile retards and that war sucks no matter how awsome it looks like in movies and that you should never ever take arms unless your country is being threatend
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>>41265500

I don't think he cycled all it looks like he did is cut.
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>>41265194
not everyone was born a chad and had gf's.

When you are a loser your entire life, you will do anything to stop this nightmare
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>>41257183
I just did my first Test E injection this morning , when should I start taking aromisin , should I only take it if I feel sides or is it ok to take it just to prevent sides
>pls respond
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>>41265739
ah, i forgot that your traps and delts get bigger on a cut.
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>>41265760
You got baited lad.
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>>41265763
ah, i forgot that making a sarcastic comment is considered taking the bait.
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>>41265756
>just injected
>still has retarded questions
guess you should have done more research huh!
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>>41265756
You are supposed to take aromisin BEFORE you inject or else a large fraction of your injection will convert into estrogen.

Best take it now and hope that its not too late/
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>>41265806
>>41265854
Should of known better to ask this cancerous board
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>>41265929
>should of

leave now, and never return
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Can proviron make you lose the water you gain on dnp? I'm only losing weight while I thought my weight would stay the same or increase from the water

Why is everyone running dnp rn and why am I part of this cult? especially the frogposters seem to love this poison
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>>41265962
Make me
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>>41265982
You should lose weight on DNP, it's just that water retention makes it seem like the weight loss is less than it really is.
Autistic fatties love DNP because it lets them lose weight without exercising or dieting at all.
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>>41265982
dont you lose the water once you stop taking DNP?

>why am i doing this

who doesnt love putting pesticides into his body?
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if Im using ugl gear does having fewer injections of larger ml or smaller doses injected more often reduce the chances of abscess more?
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>>41266304
b&
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>>41266304
what are you even trying to convey
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>>41266304
drugs are bad anon
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>>41266355
>>41266347
oh trip fags are fucking retarded what a shock
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How's this for my first cycle?
-500mg Test E every week for 12 weeks
-Aromasin as my AI, only take it when I get high estro sides (should I take it every day or no?)
-4 week PCT using Nolvadex at 40/40/20/20
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> hmmm today I think I will go to Reddit
> browse /r/steroids
> hmmm I seem to know this beginner information already
> I shall browse /r/bodybuilding for a few minutes
> picture of some fags high school teacher almost nude
> shredded and ugly as fuck
> faggot op claims his fag lover teacher is natty
> go to comments
> guy states the obvious
> -60 downvotes
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>>41266304
Why don't you buy pharma grade stuff from countries where it's legal?
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>>41266371
This is an English language website, Ching-Ling
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>>41266413
Don't go to reddit if you want to debate anything.

Anything that goes against the hivemind is buried
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>low test natty
>start 250 mg/wk and start cutting down
>going great (have to use more AI than I'd like because fat, but whatever)
>strong urge to try other compounds like tren, mast, and dbol
>SST source I like (my first one exit scammed) has tren-e and mast-e and dbol
>trying to restrain myself

I think dbol would be very bad for me anyway because of the aromatization, but it doesn't help that I know low doses of tren and/or mast would help the cut.
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>>41266371
>the trips are the retards here
>meanwhile he thinks the frequency or the amount of ml of gear he injects into his body has anything at all to do with abscesses

I really want to understand your thought process behind this anon, maybe then we will consider giving you a srs response
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>tfw did things with another friends sister
God damn. I need to stop being a piece of garbage
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>>41266975
As long as she isn't under aged or retarded, what's the problem?
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>>41266417
retard

>>41266777
mast won't help you cut, it makes you look better if you're already low bf

as for tren, well you don't wanna go down that road if your e2 isn't already properly dialed in.
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>>41266975

All you had to do was ask yourself, "is this something a scumbag would do?" Then you just had to not do it if the answer was yes.
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>>41264869
Foreplay.
Don't tap out after round 1.
Most chicks like a little bdsm.
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>>41259681
i like pinning too

i am autistic so i always put the birth of a spartan halo reach trailer on and pretend i'm being turned into a spartan III super soldier with the injections i administer, i always remove the pin when it goes up to system status 100% and his eyes turn blue
i dont have any armor to walk up to and look cool afterwards though lol

anyone else have any fun injection protocols
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>>41265739
kek
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>>41267063
How am I a retard?
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>>41267090
Good advice. Alternatively don't cum at all so she thinks you're a sex god or she's not good enough for you, ideally both.
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Sup fellas. Fuckin hell I haven't been on here in a while.

Anyways, third cycle - training for a couple of years, so I know a thing or two. One problem I (surprisingly I suppose) haven't run into yet is my pinning experience today. Pinned 25g 5/8 into my delt and:
1. Felt as if I hit a block of some sort and could only push it in probably 90% of the way.
2. Injection felt somewhat painful going in/ met resistance.
3. Feels like a lump is left afterwards (1ml of TestE).

Any way this could have ended up as a SubQ? I've probably done this a hundred times and I've ran into issues before but wtf man. I'm low bodyfat too. Also have a bit of pain immediately after (not at all common to me).

Any ideas? Starting to think I got shit Test this time as it's been nothing but problems each time (1 month in this cycle).
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>>41267060
It's bad form mate. I'm god father to the friends kid, and then there I end up chirpsing his sister... at his wedding.
Little bit shameful. And I'm being a little looked down on already because I already banged a friends sister a couple of weeks back

>>41267066
Easy to say after it all happens my dude. Oh well. It was fun
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>>41267353
Also in that same regard - if it did end up SubQ; any suggestions besides waiting it out? Massaging?
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>>41266400
yes thats fine and as bod standard as you can get but god damn

enough with the 12 weeks shit, you'll be getting peak gains in weeks 8-12, and you would otherwise get them from 12-16 as well if you weren't suddenly coming off just as your body was getting into it, so in real terms your cycle is only half as effective as one that lasts just another 4 weeks

i like to come off when i can honestly say i plateaued so i have enough for up to 20 weeks at which point i'll end it regardless for health reasons
your first will usually be the best, so make it a proper one
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>>41267353
Could be subq, I've had that happen with delts before even at low bodyfat. Same thing you described, needle stopped partway in, had pain during injection and inflammation after.

Alternatively you might have pinned near/in the one of the auxiliary nerves and inflamed it.
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>>41267377
NSAIDs will help the pain. A cold compress will reduce inflammation and thus pain but also keep the oil and gear deposited for longer. Heat will increase inflammation but also help clear out the bolus.
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>>41267410
So I should do a 16 week cycle as a beginner? Will I need to change up my PCT or no?
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>>41267306
recommending importing pharma grade gear internationally for 2-3 times the price that risks getting seized at customs over domestic ugl gear is what makes you a retard
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>>41267425
>>41267441
Thanks fellas. Hope all is well. /fit/ was always the fuckin best. But I'm a grown man with a big boy job, etc now. Gotta start checking in on these threads more often.
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>>41267353
the "block" thing sounds like scar tissue. how often do you pin this particular site?

very possible it ended up subq, yes
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>>41267492
I alternate frequently so only my second time; additionally I have a tattoo on that shoulder so I remember pinning in a different spot than last time so I doubt it'd be scar tissue.
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>tfw bought a cycle 8 months ago
>tfw still haven't used it

Is it too late now?? When does it expire?
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>>41267529
how deep in was the "block"? About halfway in? at the start?
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>>41267492
>scar tissue
Also it's been over a year since my last cycle. Got to admit I am a bit uneducated in that regard.
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>>41267541
Nope; Needle made it almost all the way in (5/8 - probably 90% in). Really tried pushing it all the way but decided to just follow through with it since I figured it was no biggie.
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>>41267206
thats fucking epic dude, and it fits nicely
>halo reach
memories bro, best time of my life

i dont do it everytime, but sometimes i would let this video play while im injecting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee7cNkQrcgI

>>41267353
welcome back fella

>felt as if i hit a block of some sort
pretty sure that was scar tissue, in case you used to pin delts in the past
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>>41267492
So yeah it's been a couple mins now and I've got a lump of oil sitting in my delt lol. Managed to SubQ I guess. Guess there's a first time for everything.
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>>41267365
>at his wedding.
Kek that is a bit shameful. It was at least at the reception and not during the ceremony right?

>>41267536
It's fine. Like most medication it doesn't expire so much as degrade. Your 500mg cycle might be more like 457mg.
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>>41267640
Doesn't grapeseed oil have an expiry date? couldn't that cause infection?
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>>41267653
not in a closed sterile vial. atleast not for a long time.
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>>41267610
Yeah I did pin delts a lot - so valid point there. How long does it stick around for though? I did a cycle over a year ago, and another probably 6 months prior to that.
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>>41267668
okay thanks. ill start it soon then, probably just sub catenously to be safe
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>>41267474
yes, 16 is better, its actually a little more stable because at 12 weeks your blood plasma levels of test still have some fluctuation; even though you're injecting drugs, your body is still going to attempt a homeostasis, and its better to change back to natural after a slightly longer period because you're not stressing the body as much. imagine doing 4 week cycles of test and other drugs, then pct-ing, waiting 7 weeks and doing it again, you'll wreak havoc on your endocrine system.

10-12 weeks is the shortest amount of time before the body has began to truly adapt to its new stimulus, no matter how you feel, but it is not optimal, as you can reap the benefits of you body adjusting to them for at least 8 more weeks, any longer and a different set of problems arise, with recovery.

your pct will not need to be any different, your production gets shut down and it doesnt keep going down and the absence of exogenous test will be detected in the same time. i prefer a combination of nolva and clomid, but nolva is fine (for ref lets say either or is 85-90% effective, both is 90-95% effective)
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>>41267688
why subq "to be safe"?

you should only ever do subq injections at small dosages to avoid pip and scar tissue buildup.
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Day 4 of sdrol and I honestly can not stop eating. Hopefully all of these calories are going to something other than fat.
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>>41267670
I had "scar tissue " clear up after a few months of not using the injection site. It'll depend on for frequently you used the site, and for how long.
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>>41267670
dont quote me on this but doesnt scar tissue last pretty much forever?

I mean i still have scars from over 10 years ago on my leg when i hurt myself as a kid

Question, what needle size do you use?
>inb4 10g

I dont see the problem here though, just stop pinning delts and go to quads
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>>41267706
Scared of it being unsertile and getting abscess
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>>41267768
You can break up scar tissue and certain enzymes can help break it down.
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>>41267800
if it was unsterile you would be getting an abcess either way if it was in subq or in muscle.
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Is it worth it to abuse TRT at 250TestE a week?
This is my bloodwork
Total Test 4.5ng/ml (range 2.6 to 9.5)
Free Test 124pg/ml (range 61 to 177)
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>>41267610
yeahh it does, i just like the piano music and the nostalgia factor

nearly 7 years ago, holy shit man, the feels, i cant think of any time recently at least in 2 years, where ive been as happy as i was back then to rush up to my room when i got home and hook up with my party on live and fuck shit up in slayer. even with the money now and girls all around i still cant
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how long after i start pinning 50mg tren ED do i feel it, aka want to rape everything?
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>>41267477
>importing pharma grade gear internationally for 2-3 times the price
Wrong
>that risks getting seized at customs
Most top websites will send you all the stuff you ordered for free if your first package gets seized by customs.
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>>41267833
are you asking if we think you should inject testosterone?
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>>41267864
ace? in about 1-2 days.
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>>41257910
hop on. you are fine. people meme all the time about oh you need X years... that's bullshit. the worst thing that happens is you won't maximize your gains. so what.
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>>41267890
are you serious? its that immediate? is there any of that 4 week "saturation" bullshit like with test E?
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>>41267871
I am asking what results could i expect from a low dose of test, i am gonna blast latter this year and i wanted to know if it was worth it to start with a low dose and see how my body reacts or is this retarded and i should just start blasting?
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>>41267946
short ester = kicks in faster

>>41267956
just blast son
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>>41267768
25g bro. I mean yeah, I'm an adrenaline junkie motorcycle rider so I have scars all over too/ but i figured with injections it's a different ballgame.

I pin quads as well but honestly just fuck this oil. It's just severe pip each time and I end up limping around for days afterwards. My right quad is still sore a whole week after injecting in it.
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>>41267869
this guy is right you know. also ugl ancillaries are sketch as fuck.
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>>41267995
nice meme
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>>41267860
Was Halo reach your prime? Or 3? For me it was Halo 3, even though reach was awsome too.

Honestly there was no point in my life where i was as happy as with Halo 3 Prime back in 2007-2010.

Fuck man, i had 112.000 kills on record. I prolly spent an entire year of pure gametime on Halo 3 alone. The people i met over xbox live were literally my best friends, even though i never saw them in real life. It was sunday, 3 am. Everyone had school in a few hours, but we wouldnt give a shit, play jenga tower, fat boy, ghostbusters in custom games with 16 other people and laugh through the entire time while occasionally talking about the halo universe and being mind blown by it.

these feels bruuuuuh i miss those times so hard. I would be one of the last persons to let go off Halo. It was so hard for me to accept that these times were over

I will remember these times in my death bed
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Sprained my ankle pretty bad yesterday

I want to try BPC-157 to recover faster. Has anyone had experience with BPC?

Not sure if I have to start using it not while I can barely walk, or wait a couple weeks when I can put weight one it.
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>>41268014
>nice meme
Not an argument
>wanting to buy from UGL's that probably make their test from dog piss
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>>41268069
Like 80% of eu sources get their ancilliaries from indian pharma and only charge you extra shipping.

Thats the life of a eurocuck where you can't even get indian pharma.
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any UK goys try sphinx var? It was either that or TM
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>>41260193
dude, pinning is just like any other scary activity. after 3 times, it's no big deal and even enjoyable. think about bench pressing for the first time. or skiing. or talking to girls. just take a breath, steel yourself and become a man. you will feel so fucking accomplished. believe it.
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>>41267960
>just blast son
I will, so just to be sure do you guys think 250mg a week would be a waste of money or is it just that a real blast is just that much better? i plan o blasting and cruising btw, but the blast needs to wait some more so i tought starting with a high cruise could be worth it
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>>41268105
>Like 80% of eu sources get their ancilliaries from indian pharma and only charge you extra shipping.
How do you know this? Couldn't you just buy from Indian pharmacies and not EU ones?
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>>41268277
You don't get next day delivery and risk having extra charges on your card from pajeet.
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>>41268277
I know because there are only like 3/4 total EU sources which i personally trust.

i've tried ordering before on some indian pharma's but they refuse shipping to Netherlands. Not sure how it is for the rest of EU.

>>41268276
better off cruising low or not at all until you got your blast sorted.

currently i'm cruising because im low natty test and trying to get some savings for a proper blast with some tren and test.
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>>41262497
what color socks will you be wearing?
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>>41268268
>or talking to girls
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what pct for deca cycle?

500mg deca x 12 weeks
200mg test e x 13 weeks
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>>41264869
wrap your hands around her throat and watch reaction. if she moves her hands up to cover yours and gently squeezes, or she moans, you are a jerk beta if you don't choke a bitch.

Viagra affects women's clits in the same way it does men. increased blood flow to erectile tissue.
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are you ready to get upgrades?? you don't need steroids to be a super soldier, they don't even make the list!
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>>41268490
>Moto X with wood grain back
I think I'm in love
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Want to make a roid chart for referencing and to spam post when newfags ask stupid questions. I also like spreadsheets a lot.

Give me some categories to add in like mass gain, prolactin production, strength gain etc

Then give a compound and rate it on a scale of 10 to -10 in said categories. (-10 would indicator this compound has a reverse effect eg. aromasin has a reverse effect on aromatisation)
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>>41257183
Broke 4 toes (broke toe on same foot 2 months) by dropping a 45lb plate on them after weighted dips. It was the last plate and I ripped it off too fast and slightly tripped (Home gym; wasn't sober).

I at least hit a 4 pl8 dip at 220lbs. Sister says it will take a few weeks to heal and that I shouldn't do any singles because of the blood that is pumped into the feet during squats and rack pulls.

Not sure what to do lads; what's funny is that I'm limited to Weighted Dips / Chin ups, but I crushed my finger by a freak accident at work the next day.

Been depressed and listening to The Meditations and studying programming.
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>>41268593
I'm running Anadrol - Would this affect healing?
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>>41266777
nice blog
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got nolvadex for pct

is it really just as good as clomid?

cuz i dont think it is

but its all ive got....
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>>41267410
> peak gains at 8- 12
lol every time i hear someone answer this sort of question the peak gains period gets further into the cycle. cant wait till people say peak gains don't start till week 18 so you may as well never start.
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>>41267063

I'd probably drop to lower doses of test (to avoid needing AI at all) if I were to use tren.

>>41268626

Thanks! :^)
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>>41268593
>dips
you have any trouble with your shoulders?

and no anadrol won't really slow healing, but you could look into peptides if you want to speed the process along
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> 10 weeks into baby first cycle
im feeling unmotivated and tired. e2 is dialed in. diet hasn't changed. does this just happen sometimes and I'll bounce back? over training? i don't understand. i want the exuberance of weeks 1-6 back. anyone else hit a wall sometimes? i go 4-5 days a week.
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>>41268576
come to sf bay area. we didnt match :(
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>>41268718
No, I've been doing BTN presses and Dips for years and my shoulders have always felt healthy. Just maintain flexibility / mobility. I front pressed 200lbs strict before I ever did dips or BTN presses though.

BTN / Dips really strengthen your triceps for conv. Push / Strict Press.
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Look at this shit, who the fuck is buying Test-E for $170?
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>>41268591
category: lack of sides
test e: 9/hair shedding

that's all i got.

id like to see:

category: lipid WMD
tren: ?/stroke
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>>41268658
yes
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>>41268658
fuck off olive oyl
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>>41268741
You know sometimes there are problems in your life that hormones aren't directly responsible for.
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>>41268876
This is what I've got so far just naming compounds off the top of my head.

Happy to take values for any category
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>>41268922
>DNP
kek
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>>41268915
so you are saying what exactly? i need to add an oral in now? and some meme fasting?
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>>41268922
why isn't mk-677 on there? I just bought some from our capitalist friend on /fraud/ and i's doing me wonders, loving the gains. Just glad I could get it from an anon here who gives such a good deal
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>>41268983
excellent bait and shilling in one go.
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>>41268983
Because I didn't think of it, just like I didn't think of HGH. fuck.

Want to give some values for mk-677?
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>>41268922
perhaps it should be DHT production instead of hairloss. since that is the cause, right?
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>>41269004
I suppose but I want to make it noob friendly. Hence why things are sorted alphabetically instead of anything that makes actual sense.
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>>41268975
How about try looking for things in your life that might cause you to be tired and unmotivated. Sleep, diet, relationships, work, school etc.
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>>41269029
I'll just do "Hairloss/DHT"
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>>41268999
all I can tell you is it's been 6 weeks and I've put on 5lb of muscle WITHOUT any other chemicals, while dropping bodyfat!

>>41268995
kek I'll still never understand why people are so jealous of him. fuck off loser try getting a job HAHA
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>>41268999
Mass Gained (Cap's Wallet): 10/10
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>>41269050
kek
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>>41269061
what did i tell you about posting this ugly roach mr
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>>41269109
Just let me have my innocent pure non-roach (she's most like Laz) waifu, need something to take my mind off gf.
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>>41269109
pretty sure thats my gf where was this taken
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>>41269130
u poor thing

>>41269166
ill end you
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Been runnin 100mg mast/test for the last month feeling ok. For the past week my poop has been straight up grayish/white and i'm not doing orals, drinking or anything. Any ideas?
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>>41264821
>it took DNP to lose 5lbs in a week
nigga are you alright? you can fluctuate 2lbs overnight, 5lbs is like a big meal or a really large shit
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>>41269040
>>41269029
hey man. I fucking hate this place and never seen you around but I like what you're doing, about time someone did something positive on here!
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>>41269275
Gib values on Mast for spreadsheet.
I have no help for your poop.
>>41269294
Cheers, go to church.
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>>41269293
He's probably a skelly
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What do u guys think of my extreme protocol that attempts to turn obese ppl jacked in a matter of 2 months? Will post nxt post:
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>>41269321
This is my experimental protocol for getting from sedentary obese slob to semi jacked in just 8 weeks.So any fatass who has the balls to stick to it will be shredded by summer.

I will explain in terms of food, exercise and drugs.

Week 1
Food: eat exactly as you have been eating but eat at a deficit of 500-750 calories per day.(if you were eating 4000 calories eat 3250 calories)in addition drink at least 1 gallon of water a day.
Exercise: mild 3 day a week cardio sessions
Drugs: 250mg test e, 350 mg tren ace per week, 50mg wimstrol per day, 24mg ephedrine per day, 400mg caffeine per day.

Week 2: Food: eat the same diet you've been eating in week 1 but eat half the total calories (if you were eating 3325 calories, eat about 1650 calories)still consume at least 1 gallon of water a day.
Drugs: same as week 1, add in aromasin 25mg monday and Friday
Exercise: 3 mild hypertrophy weight training sessions immediately followed by 3 light cardio sessions, still training 3x a week.

Week 3
Food: eat 1000 calories per day, consisting only of fruits, vegetables, raw nuts and seeds. Drink at least a gallon of water a day. Take a multivitamin/mineral and pro biotic culture pill a day.
Drugs: same as week 2
Exercise:same as week 2

Week 4

Food: water fast, eat no or as close to no calories as possible, drink at least 1-2 gallons of water a day, continue taking the multi vitamin/mineral and probiotic.
Drugs: test e 250mg/week, tren ace 350mg/week, winstrol 100mg/day, ephedrine 24mg/day, aromasin 25mg Mon and Fri.
Exercise 3x per week light to moderate hypertrophy weight training sessions, +2 light to moderate cardio sessions for a total of 5 training days per week.

Week 5
Food same as week 4
Drugs same as week 4
Exercise same as week 4

Week 6
Food same as week 3, but add in 100 grams of protein via protein powder.
Drugs same as week 5
Food same as week 5

Weeks 7 and 8 everything the same as week 5

Week 9 eat at maintenance, standard PCT with Nolva and Clomid
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>>41269308
what are u asking me for?
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>>41269325
We all know this is for you, fatass.

>>41269334
Gib values see >>41269040
you know you want to
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Are there any big steroid suppliers that take payment through a pre-paid card that you buy at the store and put x amount of cash on?
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guys do I need HCG for a deca cycle? that's all I need to know. I want my dick to work afterwards.
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>>41269383
no source talk but I've never seen one. Just use bitcoin fag.
>>41269386
Depends how long your running for. Unless your running 20+ weeks, no.
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What're the chances of my stuff getting confiscated at customs if I have something shipped into the US from another place, like Europe or India?
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>>41269397
Is there a way to transfer money off of a prepaid card into a bitcoin account?
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>>41269409
That's supplier dependent. AFAIK US customs aren't that hard to bypass.
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>>41269418
Possibly, you'd have to spend a while searching for a supplier who would. I couldn't name one off the top of my head.
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>>41269275
Could be obstructed bile ducts. How's your hydration been?
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>>41259599
m8 dont' jump into something that will alter your life because of peer pressure. trust me
>ex gf was a voracious drug user and through her I was introduced to ecstasy, cocaine, acid,dmt,shrooms, weed, adderall, codeine

understand the consequence (or lack thereof) each steroid carries. Don't let some manlet faggot intimidate you. after reading and being mature about it, THEN jump on for the right reasons.
>>
>>41269424
So would you say all the top suppliers wouldn't have trouble getting stuff past customs? Because on reviews of multiple sites of top suppliers, everyone says the packaging is discreet, and I've never heard about people getting their stuff confiscated by customs.
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>>41269435
So lawyer girl left you huh? I remember I was so close to finding your irl name when you went to that law dinner bs.

But you stopped namefagging so I didn't have a reason - glad to see you back, you have given my life purpose again.
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>>41269350
I know none of these values. I track nothing.

Would help if I could.
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>>41269447
This is what google was telling me but i've been hydrating as far as I can tell. But then again it's finals and i've been poppin adderall like candy, so my views may be skewed.
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>>41269532
That would be the implication yes.

>>41269597
Yeah she left, not feeling very stronk at this point in my life. Glad I could give you some fun.

>>41269616
It's just a subjective measure, it's whatever you feel is right.
>>
I've read it here before but I don't know why

why is cardio important when on gear?
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>>41269847
blood pressure
stroke
pic related
take your pick
>>
>>41269926
Won't you get athletes heart if you do cardio while on roids?
>>
Should I replace drawing needles every time I'm about to pin or could I use the same drawing needle for my entire cycle?
>>
>>41268352
ROIDING FOR THIS

also faggot skywalker pendant
>>
>>41269926
OK, thank you.

Does it help physique wise at all on gear? As in burning down the excess calories that aren't used for muscle repair and growth?
>>
>>41270094
>using exogenous testosterone to get your own test levels up to normal
>roiding

fuck you and your low quality bait.
>>
Is manufacturer talk allowed on here, or is it banned like source talk?
>>
>>41270127
That's still roiding. Use of exogenous hormones is the use of exogenous hormones.

For medical or recreational purposes it's all the same mechanism, doesn't mean it's good or bad, but it's all clearly the same thing.
>>
>>41270154
It doesn't give him any advantages over a normal person though.
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>>41270127
>namefagging and wishing he was a tren kid like Jon
>gets mad when someone calls out his poverty tier physique

lol
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>>41270180
arent you glad you got that off your chest, right?
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>>41268016
i got my 360 in '06 with the first gears of war and that was like heroin to me, i did play halo 3 odst forever, used to sit up til the early hours playing with my school buds on firefight endlessly, then when reach came around and forge was so much better there was no end in sight to how much playtime i spent on it, it was wasteful but we were all happy, then we just grew out of it

i love lifting so much, but ive never felt such an obsession with anything since then, except for one or two girls right around the time my interest in them peaked after games took a back seat, and now i cant pick up a game and even feel the sensation i used to, guess my brain is just becoming adult finally
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>>41270204
I obsess over pussy the way the autism for anime or games would grip me.

I. Love. It.
>>
>>41270192
Faggots like you dishing out steroid advice is what makes me laugh. Genuinely nobody except maybe masT actually has an impressive physique.

But no, better namefag so everyone knows to avoid your google-fu advice

See if Jason Blaha needs an apprentice while you're at it
>>
>>41270225
ok
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>>41268999
everything 0 except low scores for fat loss and strength gain

what are they out of? 10 or 100
>>
>>41270221
what 2 take 2 into being cuckoo for puffy pussy
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>>41270283
I've been that way since high school. It's not the gear; I just fucking love women. They're great.
>>
>>41270283
>puffy pussy
This is unfortunately a relic of the past
By the time any girl hits middle school now shes been run train until until her vulva is flat ans spilling roast beef
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>>41270476
Aww jerry I got busy with another friends sister. Tren makes me just an awful human being.
I'm now exchanting overly flirty texts.

I don't want any of this.
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>>41270511
Mirin, jelly
Now go suck off some trannies

>tfw didnt take advantage of the 2 bbbj asian trannies when I could
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>>41269275
White poop indicates an issue with your liver or bile production system. Best to get that sorted out friendo
>>
>>41270476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPfx_jFZQuI
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>>41269275
RIP
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>>41270566
>being nice to whores with already inflated egos
Lol they can go fuck themselves
>>
If I avoid leg day while on cycling, will more of the steroid juice go to my chest and arms?
>>
>>41270655
do you own guns jerry?
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>>41270755
Felons can't own firearms.
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>>41270780
>felons
>following the rules
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>>41270800

What kind of madlab lets a felon into a Taiwanese Potpourri forum?
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>>41270972

*madlad
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*sips* oh hi
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>>41270972
>>41270983
ayyyyy hows it goin my brudda from anudda udda

u big again? ; )
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>>41271048
>Implying chem can ever be 'big'.
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>>41270755
I used to own a taurus judge but I sold it

Are little girls impressed by guns? Do I need more?
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>>41271080
hehe
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>>41257238
All roids can have multiple purposes. Some are better at some purposes than others.
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>>41267206
I blast meshuggah rational gaze while drawing, and watch Spartacus and hum the intro to rational gaze as i pin. Focusing on polyrhythmic hums while pinning as blood fills your 4k screen is the best way to pin tren, it arouses the monster in me. Then after pinning i run upstairs and kneel infront of the toilet while the tren cough fucks my shit up. As i arise, full of sweat, spit and rage, I say my favorite Crixus quote "All wounds heal. Even the deeepest"
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