>vegans can't make gai-

How long has this faggot been lifting for? That's kinda sad desu

>>41241086
>Lifting for like a decade
>proud of lifting something a beginner can do after a year of any LP

>>41241131
like 10 years. also claims to have 19'' arms

What's a vegan diet missing?

>been lifting for 5 months
>can bench 215
Is it going to take me another 9 and a half years to hit the 25lb more?

>>41241867

Cruelty

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but he weighs 220 pounds cua he is very tall how is a 1 bw bench impressive LMAO

>>41241903

Damn...

Well in his defense, he wasn't lifting seriously for the middle 8 years. Only began to bulk a couple of month ago. Now on on a diet.

>>41241886

Are you vegan?

>>41241086

>I lost 5 pounds last week.
Either starving himself or water weight. Either way fucking stupid.
>toe shoes
>240 is weak, well its one of my weakest lifts.
>Fast forward. This is also one of my weakest lifts
>Fast forward. My back was lagging.
>grabbing a dumbell with your feet like a retard instead of attaching plates to a belt.
>Swinging like hell with bent over barbell rows.
>Shit form always excused because of "vertigo".
>PR...PR...PR...PRE nonsense.
>laughable lateral raises form, can't even consider that doing the lift.
>Swinging ass shit form bicep curls, "kind of a PR, but I've done better before."
>Shit form on everything.
>Filming entire workout.
>Entire workout is under 15 minutes.
>One or two sets each exercise.

yet he has legit 19" arms lean. Strength=/=size once and for all.

>>41241903
They wasn't ready for that one

>>41242237
I've been lifting for 3 years and only started taking it serious the past 2 months and I'm 20 lbs shy of 3 plate

>>41241086
>has been lifting for nearly a decade
>new 240 pr

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>>41242237
>Believing the bullshit that comes out of vegan mouths

>>41242519
how big are your arms though? probably not even 15". Dude's not training for strength, and 18.5" cold are pretty good for a natty

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Hahahahha did you actually listen to this tard? One minute into the video and I'm already rolling on the floor laughing.

> "i am getting sensations of vertigo when i'm benching. getting on the bench and getting up from the bench i'm getting disoriented, i'm losing my sense of balance and getting that feeling of vertigo"

i contemplate veganism sometimes, but this video has showed me the reality of it. he's been lifting for TEN YEARS and can't perform the bench press (a lift which is supposed to be one of the easiest and most enjoyable for men) with a moderate weight without being a dizzy little bitch.

>hit a 250lb max after 8 months of working out, while on a cut
>be a 5'7" 145lb 'manlet'

give me youtube 'fitness' money please

>>41242585
you're small though. people who actually train for strength are putting up 1.5+ times your bench while being smaller than VG.

>>41241903
Jews

>>41241867
gains

>>41242490
hahaha no, not even close

kek, why is he so weak
i bench pretty much the same but I go to the gym like 2-3 times a week, often skip and dont really keep on good diet while he has like whole youtube channel about working out and fitness

lmao I've been lifting for 8 months and bench 225 for working weight.
250x6 is my current 'max'.

I need to cut though.

>>41242684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWNfoobnfdc
18.5" cold is pretty close to 19" pumped

he's the same size as the hodgetwins, if he did more CNS-intensive training and technique work to properly utilize his muscles he'd get to advanced lifts easily

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>>41242585
>height starts with 5
>thinks that any of his lifts or body matters

i like how he said that bench is one of his weakest lifts because of some injury when he said the same thing about his every other lifts
>hurr durr i cant do squats because of my back innjury
>my dl is small because my back was injured

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>240lb bench
vegans forever BTFO

>>41242729
that's an essential component of the vegan diet: denial.

>>41241867
b12 but you can easily find that in a multivitamin
really nothing else I can think of it's just more tedious

>>41242701
>he's the same size as the hodgetwins
There's no way that's possible seeing as the hodgetwins are on steroids. Unless vg isn't natty.

>>41241867
>>41242762
D3, calcium, creatine, omega 3, carnitine, taurine, iodine, Coenzyme q10, iron, and vegans have lower testosterone and supermarket count than non vegans.

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>>41241086
????????????????

>>41242836
Huge Jackedman also wore them on his 450lb deadlift pic.

>>41242853
But people actually do deadlifts barefoot

>>41242853
450lb deadlift is pretty pathetic considering he had access to the best steroids and hgh on the planet

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>>41242876
yep
that was a good day on /fit/

>>41242951
Please tell me those legs are shoooped

>>41242575
he got the vertigo due going ridiculous lengths in dieting you fucking ape

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>>41242962
I don't even know anymore

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>>41242951
Why not just put your shoes off

>>41242575
I can bench 200 for reps and I do bodyweight only for something like 2 years with breaks in between. Tried some lifts once at the gym to see how it carries over. So yeah.. this guy's a joke.

>>41241825
*proved he has 19 inch arms

>>41242973
correct, he went to ridiculous lengths in his diet by cutting out all meat, dairy, and fish products.

>>41242701
hahahahahha nope, not even close bud

>>41241867
If you follow it properly. It's not missing much. That's if you follow it properly. There are retards out there that don't know what micro nutrients are.

Eg. Women who are vegan generally don't get enough iron. So when they get their period, they don't have the iron to replace the lost blood. So every now and then women would just faint in random places.

>>41241825
He unironically has 18.5" arms cold

>>41244261
>It's not missing much
except meat

>>41241867
The American diet is unironically worse if you remove meat and animal products from it.
Imagine eating potato chips and freedom fries as your main diet. With tons of sugary soda.
Yes, the meat is actually the healthiest part of an average American's diet.

240 is laughable for a guy that weights 180-190

What's next, bragging about benching your bodyweight?

>>>>41241086
-ns

>>41241086
FUCKING CANADIAN!

>HARDER THEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEEN
>ABOOT NEEN
>ALWAYS BEEN
WORST ACCENT IN THE WORLD

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>>41242790

>vegan diets have lower supermarket count

>>41241086
his arms are actually massive, but he's a very weak bencher

idk if it's his leverages or what

>>41242762

> Have to supplement my diet with drugs

> It's the healthiest most natural diet bro! Humans were meant to eat like this brah!

I forgot how evolution took into account that we could manufacture pharmaceuticals

>>41242237

> Makes a fitness channel
> Calls himself gains

> "Oh I wasn't lifting seriously my whole life"

Dude just said that after he got btfo'd when he posted his lifts

>>41241086
What about clarence0? He is a vegan

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Here's something you guys might like. We were talking about animal rights in my ethics class today and my professor gave the argument that there really isn't any valid reason to kill animals for food if there are alternatives. People say that since we are the top of the food chain, humans have the right to eat animals, yet if an alien race came to earth and decided to try to eat humans, certainly we would tell them to not eat us as we are a thing that shouldn't be eaten. Would a pig or cow not say the same thing to us if they could speak? You might say that well, human beings have a higher capacity of moral reasoning and logical thinking, but certainly there exists humans that have no language skills, no thinking skills, or are mentally handicapped, yes? Yet, we don't eat THOSE people as we would a cow or a pig. There seems to be some sort of distinction between a human and a pig or cow that isn't related to the food chain, higher levels of intelligence, or natural order, yet people will still eat meat and animals just the same.

What do you guys think?

>>41241867
Proper protein for dem gains

Just look at virgin gains and this fuckstick, gorillion years and just past 2 plate bench.

>>41245545
He's also a genetic freak.

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>>41245619
I think I want that ass on my face STAT

>>41245619
It's the mental recognition of something as human and that can be triggered by lots of different factors including appearance, intelligence, self-consciousness, and the ability to interact with the emotional and cultural systems that are broadly shared in and tie us all together. For instance, dogs interact with people on an emotional level, and so at least in European culture it would excite revulsion and moral qualms in people if they knew they were eating a dog.
So it's possible to extend that empathy to other animals as well, but you don't logically have to. Who feels bad for an insect? A fish? A chicken? Maybe you feel bad for a cow if it's mistreated.

Also, some cultures are totally fine with eating people if they did something wrong.

>>41241086

haha holy fuck thats his pr? how long has he been lifting for again?

>this fucking retard shilling his videos again

go away no one gives a fuck about your vegan nogains

>>41241086
Bruh I've never seriously benched and the last time I went in I could smash out 5 at 240
At 6'2 170lbs
With 16 in. arms
This faggot is fucking up.

Haha what the fuck that is like a 2nd month in the gym tier lift

>>41242562
>strong bench
>having yueg arms
the correlation isn't exactly there when it comes to natty lifters

>>41242464
with you on most of those things, also his shoulder press is ass.
however, I've noticed slightly cheating cheat curls are more effective for building biceps than very strict curls

>>41245704
>For instance, dogs interact with people on an emotional level, and so at least in European culture it would excite revulsion and moral qualms in people if they knew they were eating a dog.
Depends where you are.

>>41242645
>smaller than VG
the only things that he has going for him are his arms, the rest of his body is absolute trash

>>41241086
where are his traps and calves

How about Clarence?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHrysja5lYw&t=665s

it was for 5 reps though, so 270 calculated 1RM. that's not low, maybe for a fitness youtuber that's been lifting for a long time it doesn't stack up to the other guys. he also has long limbs so a longer bar path

>>41242836
Haha le ebic WHAT ARE THOSE!!!??? xD

>>41247492

Fuck off VG.

10 years of lifting, most people can hit 270 1RM after about 2 years and that's if they've got shit genetics

>>41247615
ok it's bad for 10 years, I just find it funny that I just saw a thread with a heated debate about whether 225lb is serious weight or not and now 270 is unanimously a joke just because the guy is a goober

>>41245545
wasn't always a vegan. Has only been vegan for about a year, and before then would eat a lot of animal products. He's also on steroids.

>>41241825
I can believe that. Dude has good arms.

>>41247402
*crickets *

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>>41242575

>>41247402

Was already talked about in the thread.

May be vegan now, but didn't eat vegan to get where he is.

>>41247647

It's well above normie/non-athletic tier

Nobody is going into the gym day one and repping 225, so if someone can rep it you know for a fact they have been working out for a certain amount of time.

But at the same time, for a guy who has a "fitness" channel, calls himself "gains" and preaches about how a vegan diet is objectively the best and has no negative side effects he is a literal embarrassment to only be repping 225 after 10 years

>>41247615

I have shit genetics for bench (really long arms) and after a little over 2 years and my 1rm is about 250. So yeah, pretty much in spitting distance.

If he's honestly been lifting for 10 years, 270 is abysmal.

>>41247780
Yep, after 5 years I start my warm-ups with 225, rep 405 and should hit a+500 1rm in the next couple weeks, I also eat like an obligate carnivore

>>41241086
ignore vegan threads
vegans will not listen to facts
vegans will not make gains
vergans suffer from iron deficiency
vegains voted for hillary

>>41245619

>ethics class

Might as well sit on carpet squares and drink juice boxes. Why even go to college if you are too stupid to take 5 real classes a semester to qualify for loans?

>there isn't a valid reason to eat animals if there are alternatives, how deep.

How about it tastes better. Not even joking. That's a valid argument. I have the choice and I would prefer to eat both instead of one. Were you too stupid to even think people might prefer meat to vegetables.

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>>41241086
>my libido is still really high
Holy fuck this creepy shitskin is so fucking disgusting

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>>41241903
plants have feeligns too man pict releated mfw i eat plants

>>41242701
If my granny had testicles I'd have three grandfathers

>>41241086
damn 240 after what, 7 years? even rippetoad boys can get to 225 in less then a year

>>41247711
>>41247771
>This much denial
If vegan diets were legit inferior he'd lose gains, but he didn't
Veganism is harder and more unpleasant than meat eating but if properly planned it's as nutritionally adequate as a normal diet
You know what else is hard and unpleasant? Weekly squat 5rm PRs. But we still do it because it's good and call others fags. By extension, meat eaters are fags

>>41249104
It's denial to think that in the 21st century there is a diet you can't practice. It's also denial to think that before the advent of agriculture a vegan diet was in any way feasible way to find sustenance. FYI, there has been less time with agriculture than without in the existence of Homo Sapiens as a species. Speaks volumes.

In conclusion, let me tell you a bit about a Soviet and American generals talking about their armies. The Soviet general says
>Every Soviet soldier has a guaranteed 1000 calories a day
to which the American general answers
>Every American general has access to 2500 calories
The Soviet general is having none of it, saying this is not possible. After being asked why would such a thing be impossible he said
>There is simply no way a soldier can eat a whole combat backpack with turnips!

>>41247771
you know ilya ilyin is vegan/vegetarian during competition prep

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tfw vegans are being BTFO on every shitty vegan propaganda thread

>>41249311
>olympic athlete
>already busted for fraud

yeah, vegan diet totally made him what he is

>>41249104
>If vegan diets were legit inferior he'd lose gains, but he didn't
You forgot to mention that hes on steroids so it doesnt really apply

Suddenly everyone on /fit/ reps over 2 plate and has been lifting for less than 6 months.

Kek

110kg for 5 reps is still decent, he like like 90kg and added 10kg in the last couple months.

>>41247829
I take it you are also lying or on gear.

>>41249720
>110kg for 5 reps is still decent,
it isnt if you have been lifting for over a decade

>>41241086
>Train for 10 years
>240 at 225 BW
>Be meat eater
>lift 14 months
>178 BW
>hit 240 with pause
This is honestly embarrassing

>>41249720
100kg for reps is decent if you have been lifting for <2 years. this guy has been at the gym for over 8 years. even genova can rep 3 plates

>>41249767
No he can't

110kg for 5 puts his max close to 130kg too which is decent, no one would say 140kg is ever weak even for someone lifting 10 years, unless you are gifted in bench you are never gonna hit 180kg+

>>41249730
Just because you have been active for 10 years does not mean you have been lifting or trying to make progress, you can maintain or lose gains in that time.

How strong is someone like Scott Herman he looks good and Is a life natty.

>>41249801
those 1rm estimates are bullshit and are never accurate

>>41248957
did you watch the video he made about having his dick cut (for definitely not aesthetic reasons)?

pretty much 15 minutes of him whining about how he can't sit property and how he keeps poking at it.

>>41249801
The guy has been lifting for 10 years and it's honestly embarrassing to have that level of bench after 10 years when people with less body weight can hit that in 1.5-2 years (or if you go ham and dirty bulk can hit in 10-12 months) is it strong for normies, meat eaters or others sure it is, but is it worth making a youtube channel on it not really and sure as hell not one that has Gains in the title.

>>41249821
I said close I bet he would hit 125kg, I recently hit 115kg for 3 and hit 122.5kg for 1 and 1rm calc says 126.

>>41249839
He probably had shit programming for all them years doing bro splits.

>trying this hard to justify some vegan goblin 2pl8 bench being decent after a DECADE of going to the gym

>>41245455
Stop taking protein powder.


Also, unless you eat 100% organic meat you're literally getting second hand B12 supplements lmao

>>41249940
>Also, unless you eat 100% organic meat you're literally getting second hand B12 supplements lmao
I want some sources

>>41249944
Google.com you fucking imbecile

If you don't know something as basic as the fact that B12 does not naturally occur in meat but rather comes from bacteria primarily in soil, why the fuck do you even think you're qualified to even argue right now?

>>41249944
It's simple logic. Animals don't produce B12, the food we feed them (corn and soybeans) doesn't contain B12, so where else can it come from?

>>41249974
Give sources now or fuck off

planning to go vegan on my next cycle seeing as hormones will be taken care of and vegan diets combine well with anabolics

>>41249894
Not everyones goal is strength

His arms are bigger than 99.5% of /fit/

>>41249985
>meat eaters are literally too dumb to use Google
https://searx.me/?q=%21go%20cattle%20B12%20injection%20&categories=none

>>41250038
Not sources m8, have you had your b12 checked recently? I think your brain has atrophied.

>>41250093
Have you like, tried clicking on those links?

Or is this just plain damage control at this point?

>>41250102
It's not really, you claimed that only organic meat (not alive animals) has b12, you have not given a single source to support that statement. Also do you understand that sources mean actually posting a study or are you being dense on purpose?

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>>41241086
Lmao, I benched 3plate in 3 years, this faggot took 10 years to hit 240lb.

Veganism, not even once.

>>41241086
>vegan
>2pl8 and some change bench after 10 years

seems about right, what's your point?

>>41242951

His legs... What

>>41250158
>implying you need large legs for a 210kg deadlift

when will the dyels leave

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>>41250118
Organic = grass fed = soil = B12

Can you seriously not into basic reasoning like that other guy suggested, or are you just pretending to be retarded to fish for (You)s? Either way, this will be the last time you get any (You)s from me.

>>41250102
>>41250038
>>41249979
>>41249974
>>41249940
STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS YOU RETARDS

>>41250174

I'm not saying he needs big legs for his shit deadlift I am saying his legs look like shit.

>>41250225
yes, he's the type of nigga that says girls dont care about legs

>>41249940

I actually don't take protein powder and eat almost exclusively organic meat.

But this is a disingenuous point, my point was that you are *required* to take supplements for your diet to work, mine isn't, if I am taking supplements as well, whether incidentally or intentionally, it is an accessory, not a necessity

>>41248993
Plants are FUCKING ASSHOLES

>>41249894

He's more muscular than 99% of the ppl here, which is hilarious considering he's not on drugs or eating animal products.

He doesn't even push himself hard for strength, he could be far stronger if he actually trained hard from day one.

Also, keep in mind this is just strength in a lift.

>>41246149
Depends on your technique. I use a lot of tris and lats during bench so my arms are bretty good

>>41250612
his arms are 1.5" bigger than mine at same height and I can bench >3.5 plate.

His goals aren't strength, so why treat him like he trains for it like a plg autist? The body parts he actively trained in his bb hobby career are more developed than mine and those of pretty much all natural /fit/izens, so get the fuck outta here with muh strength because he doesn't even train for it.

It's like about gloating about your pathetic 2 plate squat you train for while a non-squatting curlbro that gets more pussy doesn't ever go beyond 1 plate

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>>41245619
The only difference is that these magical alien race would not give a shit about how we treat animals.

>>41250642

>and I can bench >3.5 plate

Video proof?
I have 41cm arms and I bench little over 2.5 plate.