/plg/ - powerlifting general

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Reposting because I didn't notice a new thread was made
Are USAPL nazis about how you stand on the scale?
If I stand normally I'm 220.6, but if I lock my right knee and slightly bend my left knee I'm 216.4. I mean 4lbs could be the difference between making weight or not after my bulk when I try to compete at 105kg.

>>41192927
caption kekd

reminder to do weighted chins to bench more

>>41192976
WTF

Im doing box squats 5x5 Mon Wen Fri, but today my legs were unbereable, I think I'm not recovering quickly enough should I switch to 3x5 instead? (Im almost 2 pl8 at a slight caloric surplus)

>>41193059
yeah 5x5 always seemed like retarded volume for an lp, why are you doing box squats tho

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Wish I could to the gym every day.

>>41192976
have you tested on several scales?

>>41193076
Had ATP for 3 years since I've started lifting, never squated nor deadlifted. Bench 2pl8, Ohp 1pl8 and my squats and deads were too low to say. Been doing Alpha destiny hybrid program the last 3 months, go to almost 2 pl8 on box squat pretty easy but now im having problems.

dude Logan was literally the most generic, boring trash I've watched in a long time. Did they fucking pay off the review sites or something?

>>41193192
>Been doing Alpha destiny hybrid program t
stopped reading there

Tfw first meet coming up in 3 weeks and injuries only just healing up

Wew, I'm fucked lads

>>41192976
you have a shit scale m8, it shouldn't do that

>>41192958
mein dick

>>41193192
Do an actual program faggot.

Anyone actually run Sheiko for all the big lifts, AND actually do all the accessory work he programs?
> tfw 1490 reps of the big 3 in 8 weeks
> tfw intentionally missing 2 reps just because
> tfw 1730 farking reps of auxiliary lifts

>>41193266
>AND actually do all the accessory work he programs?
fuck that it has so much chest accessory I think youre bound to snap your shoulder if you do everything

>>41193225
Is there a known top tier scale that I can buy off of Amazon or something?
I don't want to bulk and find out that my shit scale was off by 10lbs the whole time or something.

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Doesn't putting Sheikos highly personalized routines in spreadsheets and using them as a cookiecutter routine kinda run against his philosophy?

>>41193266
I do and I do 4 x chest days (Int med load). I also add biceps and triceps work and sometimes do some more shoulder work.

No injury, no pain, nothing. My tits are pretty big tho, not sure how to feel about that.

>>41193289
The only one that counts. Scooby has one in his bathroom IIRC.

>squat sets feels like rpe 9
>looks on video like rpe 6
>feels like I'm hitting depth
>looks on video like I'm 1in above parallel

hmmm

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>>41193362
forgot to post the medical scale

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>>41193319

Here we go

>>41193384
>>41193362
Do you happen to know if this is what USAPL/IPF uses?

Is it a terrible idea to work power cleans into Sheiko? I like doing them and don't want to stop :'(

>>41193319
Don't be autistic, dude, your statement is moot. His philosophy as expressed on his forums by his moderators isn't
> the whole fucking thing is just a suggestion
it's more like
> up these percents a few points or down a few if you need to
> if you don't tolerate good mornings then find another lift to substitute for it
> "chest" 4 sets of 8 could be any exercise you want

All of which is beside the fact that it's 1730 reps of programmed work, even if you swap out stuff you don't tolerate well, that's fucking 72 reps of auxiliary work every workout, AFTER the main lifts.

>>41193392
that's a trap

>>41193392
Not much ass on that one. She needs to squat.

>>41193192
So are you going to address your posture and get a real coach or just give up?

>>41193209
Its working perfectly. Its a mix between texas method and any LP you can find. Even in the book of TM it says that you shouldn't sacrifice upper body strenght if you are more advance in one over the other.

>>41193510
I dont have it anymore. That's why I started doing box squats and deadlifts this past months. Deadlifts is going up like nothing but the volume on box squats seems to be too much.

>>41193538
>be noob
>ride out noobgains doing some jackass routine that youve paid for while you couldve find a good alternative for F R E E
>bbbbut it works

>>41193538
>it's working perfectly
>can't box squat 2plates
Nigga get a real program and find someone who actually knows how to fucking box squat.

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>>41192958

Fuck off she's mine.

>>41193593
what do you study dude

Lads why do I still feel pain when benching in my shoulder, it's only my left one and it's mostly in the collarbone area. video with my bench setup and benching. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOvkMtdgz5Q
If you want some different angles just say I'll be benching this wednesday and I'll record because I'm deeply concerned. Pain has been getting stronger with each session.

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>>41193593
NO SHES MINE AND I POSTED THAT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>41193603
>that retarded attempt at an arch while ending up with no arch
you get pain in your shoulder because just look at how you bench;
1. you lower the bar on your lower pec, this is good
2. the second you start pressing you shift it above your shoulders with your elbows flared instead pressing in a curve from the lower pec towards your face gradually

#2 is why your shoulder hurts

>>41193603
You need to bench less and shoulder press more. And get someone to hand off.

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>>41193319
i feel lucky today

>>41193603
That's a shit ton of work for a non existent arch.

Idk about the pain but it seems like you're not just sinking the bar, you seem to be heaving. Maybe that's causing the pain, idk

>>41193599

I studied zoology. I work in pest control now.

>>41193706
>that retarded attempt at an arch while ending up with no arch
Nothing I can do about that, but what you call that retarded attempt is the only reason my shoulders are not dead, reduces the pain by a lot
>2. the second you start pressing you shift it above your shoulders with your elbows flared instead pressing in a curve from the lower pec towards your face gradually
I guess I'm tying to do this https://www.strongerbyscience.com/bench-press-bar-path/ but I'm doing it wrong?
>You need to bench less and shoulder press more. And get someone to hand off.
I shoulder press 3 times a week and I can ohp 70kgs for 3 reps while my bench is 105kg for 1.
Thanks for any help even if you're bullying my arch.

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>>41193593

Not happening friendo

>>41193553
Its free dumbass
>>41193567
2 pl8 for almost 3 months is pretty good considering that I've never squatted plus box squats are harder than free squats and I do them with perfect form.

>>41193779
>>41193603
Also if that's anything I get pain in the exact same spot also only on my left shoulder when doing dips it's just 10 times worse on dips, so I stopped doing them.

>>41193779
Ok since you're disregarding all that, the next step is start training in a shirt or take a break before you seriously fuck up your rotator cuff.

>>41193855
I didn't disregard anything what are you talking about?

>>41193817
You are trolling at this point, if you weren't before. Your form sucks, and an adult male should be box squatting 315+ for reps unequipped. You will never be an acceptable powerlifter.

>>41193890
We told you what to do and your response is that you're already doing those things. Go see a doctor if it really hurts that bad, and he will tell you to stop benching.

>>41193905
I dont get what you are saying. How can you tell how my form is? I record myself always in the last set to see how my form is and still remains almost perfect beltless. You are saying that 3 months for 2 pl8 is slow progress? In 2 months max I will get to 3 pl8 and hop to texas, I dont get your useless comments.

>>41193817
I guarantee you free squat less than you box squat

>>41193937
But then if I'm doing already what you said, then how am I disregarding what you said. The only thing I'm not doing is slowly moving bar towards my head which I'm gonna try. I don't know why you gotta be so rude when I asked for help.

>>41194000
Probably yes but because I got very specific with box squats, but changing over for a few weeks and I definitely squat more.

lads. can you bulletpoint why 5/3/1 is bad exactly. some anon in another thread is shilling it but Ive never run it so I dont know how to dispute him

>>41194000
Plus BS have more carryover to deadlifts, and my DL is going up super fast. 3 Pl8 in 2 1/2 months and the bar still moves fast as fuck.

>>41194032
It's good beginner routine tho

>>41194032
he ripped off BFS (the hs football program he did when he played) and neutered it
went from 2 main lifts a day to 1, so lower frequency of exposure to the lifts
removed the high-rep week for a deload, so less hypertrophy
put in sissy big jumps in the ramping so "3x5" becomes "2 warmup sets of 5 and then another set"
used a stupid 90% training max so that 3rd set of 3x5 (which the first two are just ball-less warmups) is 8+ reps
basically it's so south of vag that it became "accessory lifts: the program"
had to invent shit like joker sets or first set last to solve the problem of low working volume of the lifts

>>41194032
>>41194099
if you want to try BFS-style work to see how badly wendler fucked it, here's an approximation
> SIX main lifts, THREE workouts a week. Squat and Bench on Monday, Clean and Dead on Wednesday, Front Squat or Box Squat and Board Bench or Close Grip Bench on Friday
> do 3x3 in week 1, no training max bullshit, add weight each set, the first set is sorta tough the last is hard to make 3-4 reps
> do 5x5 in week 2, same as above. 3x5 if you lack time
> do 5-4-3-2-1 in week 3, add weight each set, the first set is sorta tough the last is a grinder. 5-3-1 if you lack time
> do 10-8-6 in week 4, add weight each set. Clean and Dead do 4-4-2. You know the drill, add weight, first set sorta tough, last set a grind
> each week is on it's own progression, no training max percentages
> do 2-3 auxiliary lifts each day for 2x10 or thereabouts. rows, chins, dips, pullups, all compounds like that, maybe some olympic stuff like snatch or jerk but do those 2x5
> oh yeah, on Tue and Thur do some conditioning, track work, sprints, or plyos

That's the program wendler ripped off and ruined. Try it instead.

>>41193652
my god how boring is this girl

didn't even know that you should fully lock out in OHP

>>41193373
Squat extra deep always then. Also squats are always gonna feel harder than they actually are

I want to BENCH

Also I seriously hope Gibbs does well at his upcoming meet

>>41194006
I'm not the guy making fun of your bar path or arch (although I don't understand why you setup the way you do). I said you need more shoulder press (I don't believe you train that lift 3 times a week but if you do that's also retarded). Basically you just have weak shoulders. Oh, and get somebody to fucking hand off the bar.

>>41194230

What did you think the alternative was?

>>41193982
Are you box squatting out of a monolift? No? Then I guarantee your form is not "perfect".

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Did Candito outright retire or something?

>>41193982
>I got 2pl8 squat in 3 months
>I will get to 3pl8 in 2 more months

LOL

>>41194331

He still posts on instagram

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>>41193018
>>41193191
>>41193225
nah that's legit. in high school wrestling we used those nice scales like they use in meets and people could cheat them by putting all of (or as much as possible) bodyweight onto one of the corners to come out a bit lighter. not 4 pounds lighter though, more like half a pound.

>>41194360
But does he have any intention of competing?

>>41194397

Dunno

Looks like he still lifts fairly heavy according to his instagram

>>41194388

Hey Alex what are you studying rn?

>>41194643
Electrical engineering

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>Start benching a few weeks ago
>Today
>Lifting 120 because I'm a weak bitch
>3rd set, 4th rep can't get the bar back up
>Resort to the roll of shame

N-n-no one laughs when people do this right? This is normal?

>>41194830
they laugh but it's the kind of laugh that remembers when they did that, too

>>41194830

Happens to the best of us honestly

>>41192927
How do i mentally prepare myself to do multiple reps of heavy ass weight when i dont feel physically up to the task

had a long, kind of rough weekend and getting started on squats/deadlifts today was a real bitch

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Pretty good so far lads

>>41194830
pls be in kg

also bench in a rack

>>41194996
Caffeine and metal music

>>41195005
pounds. Like I said, I'm a weak bitch.

And there is no rack. I mean there's a squat rack, but then I'd look like a turbo retard. dragging a bench in there to do bench presses.

>hypertrophy phase
>high bar-ing 70% x10 now
>just try 80% x1 on low bar on film
>compare to strength phase 2 months ago
>.33/ms + faster


It's like saving away money to go on vacation where the vacation is a heavier squat.

I'm like a dog in a cage waiting for it

Ill also post film if I can figure how to blur face and shit

>implying putting my identity on here is a smart idea

>>41194996
even if Im tired and having a shitty session, when I get to squat working sets I just get fucking angry. I go from wanting to take a nap to feeling like I could outsquat big ray at the drop of a hat

deadlifts are a shit tho

>>41195025
Don't worry lad pls be in kg is a meme. Who cares if you look like a retard? It's safer.

>>41194996
metal
anger
the reason why you do this anyway should push you

otherwise, are you just going to back down like a little cuck while other people are training heavier and harder than you?

You might as well ask

"why do I want to win?"

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>>41195053

>10 rep squat sets

>>41195072
How many reps did you get on you 80% amraps first week of PM?

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>>41195072
>he doesnt 6x10 squat on deload weeks

>>41195087

I got 10. I wanted to die.

>>41195092

When these occur I also want to die.

>>41195072
>he doesn't do 7x20 squats twice a week

>>41195173
I cant wait till you go back to squatting normally and realize this 7x20 was retardation

>>41195188
It is retardation and I'm not gonna do this again but I started something and I'm not gonna be no pussy and pussy out

Plus I've only got like 2 more weeks or so of it

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>>41195072
>MR sets

>>41195063
Thanks reddit

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>>41193160
You can

>>41195072
> tfw ran candito for two years and was doing 1x10 and 10x3 at 85% once every five-ish weeks

>>41193160
Whats stopping you?

>>41195255
fuck off
>600lb bench is natural
>28 free complete dogshit programs

>>41195267
Did you see consistent gains/growth running it for that long? Im on my second cycle of it right now and ive been wondering how long i can stay with it

>>41195309
squat and dead went up 85lbs each. would've gone up more but I'm super conservative with increasing weights and 1RM testing and didn't push myself as much as I maybe should've

bench only went up 45ish lbs, so it's kinda true what they say that it's not the best bench program

>>41193603
Grab the bar, row yourself into position and hold that tight scapula pinch throughout. You lose all tightness in the bottom, collapse, then push. This is kind of a meme but think about rowing the bar to you (it helps, seriously) and just try to touch your tshirt with it on the pause, then you push, keeping your back the exact same way. If all you focus on during bench is your shoulder blades, you'll probably do alright.

>>41195321
What were your stats before and after, so i can get a sense of scale? All of my lifts went up fairly well but im still coasting on "finally working out consistently again" muscle memory gains. Like, I only benched 225 for the first time ever at the end of my first run

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>>41195262

>>41195350
>>41195262
your gross Sean

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>>41195262
>smorgasboard

>>41195003
Post all the secrets to everlasting gains. What's the big hype with krypteia?

>>41195072
Sets of 10 make you big and strong, you just momentum'd, you should know this.

>>41195375
Glad you found my joke amusing

>>41192958
>>41193593
>>41193652
>>41193801

>Fighting over a literal retard

I seriously hope the rest of you don't do this.

>>41195394

That doesn't make me want to die any less when I do them.

>>41195411

I acknowledge the fact Mattie is an airhead, I don't think anybody here will question that. However however she exudes happiness and positive energy, is quite strong and an overall qt. So it's fun to meme about at least.

>>41194996

Listen to pro wrestling themes and use the power of the resulting autismgasm to lift the weight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0H_DZvjGrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW_hPUqBCgg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOsqdghHcIk

>>41195465

Why do people think she's stupid, exactly? She seems of at least average intelligence to me

>>41195411
haha okay raffy

>>41195502
haha okay raffy

>>41195502
>Not posting literally the best one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMuYfScGpbE

If you don't workout to this, you are not going to make it.

>>41195502
>>41195008
>>41195055
>>41195063
thanks, friends, feels better having worked out today

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>140kg Back Squat 10RM followed by 126kg 2 sets of 10

>injured
>already weak
>all lifts backsliding

Frustrated desu

>>41195759
Are you trying to get a juicy butt before summer?

>>41195759
Sounds ezpz lemon squeezy
Haven't you been training for like 4 years; why are you so bad?

>>41195759
>3x10
Quit complaining faggot

Pin squats are fucking horrible

>>41196200
hi baby

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>>41192927
AHAHAHA!!! IMAGINE LOOKING LIKE THAT!!! A FUCKING PAWG!!!

But hey, gay guys love that so...

>>41195759
Hey nigga nobody cares about your weak ass lifts.

>>41196200
Agreed

>>41196200
But they work. Unless you lift raw.

Reminder that walking your squat BACK INTO THE RACK is unnecessary and 2 steps is all you need for a proper walkout

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>>41196225
Ay bby

>>41196294
What if I don't even lift

>>41196331
haha okay raffy

>>41195641

Jim Johnston was so much better than CFO$

>>41196478
Haha okay raffy

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>>41196285
>lowbar squat
>sumo stance deadlift
>arched bench
>calls other people weak

what did he mean by this?

noob here

are the routine calculators on joe skopec's website a good place to start

235 bench
350 squat
315 diddly
159 lbs (could drop 11 easy)

also is there some form of sticky for plg

>>41196655
>>lowbar squat
Less injurious and more comfortable for a lot of people

>>sumo stance deadlift
Same, also more natural and stronger for many

>>arched bench
The right way to bench

Why the fuck did I respond?

>>41196783
>350 squat
>315 diddly

U wot

>>41196655
Wait a minute, you fucking pull sumo you double nigger

>>41196783
http://powerliftinggeneral.com/ has a dropbox chock full of useful shit. As for a "do this, don't do that" sticky, no not really.

>>41196655
You pull sumo though?????

>>41196818
squats were pushed alot more in my hs workouts

t-they hurt my back too

>when your conditioning is so shit you have to catch your breath during high rep sets of deadlifts

How do I fix my lower back rounding? I think my form looks okay other than that.

ow mine princesa

>>41196871
Thats ok

Anything that makes you work hard will leave you out of breath

>>41196871
When do you start rounding? Could be weak glutes, just starting in a shit position, tight hammies etc. There are a lot of potential fixes

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>>41196924
I think it's a flexibility issue since it's in the starting position. See webm

>>41196911
Yeah but I mean I'm stopping to breath so much that a set of 8 took almost 2 minutes. To be fair it's 78% but still makes me think I should do some cardio.

>>41196871
Stop pulling memestance and start pulling like a real deadlifter.

Without memes, I don't think I've ever seen a highish rep set of conventional that didn't involve progressive rounding unless we're talking about like Misha or something.

>>41196974
But, anon, I pull conventional. Sumo is for cheaters.

>>41196959
Looks more like a shit start position imo. When you first set up you get really close to a neutral spine then lose it when you pull. Try setting your back at the top of the rep then go down and pull. Kind of like haack but actually get tight.

>>41196959
Ugh, revising my comments. You fucking start rounded you fucking guy. Stop resting in a rounded position, stick your ass back and get a real hinge, and what the fuck are you looking at? Keep your neck flat.

Basically just never pull like that again and never post anything this awful again. This wasn't a conditioning issue, this was a terrible form issue.

>>41196993
Conventional is fine for week six of SS, real powerlifters pull sumo. Now don't ever post anything this fuckawful again, please.

>>41196907
Stop pretending to be me

>>41196959
Stop doing 78% for 8 then

>>41196994
>>41196959
In addition to what i said i watched it again, you have no real tightness and seem to be engaging the pull with your back. I'm doubling down on my set your back at the top advice. I have a rounding problem and that has helped me a shit ton

>>41197012

Isley pulls conventional though

So does Eddie Hall

Does AutisticDestiny have a speech impediment or an accent from somewhere I've never heard of or what?

>>41197048
Yeah strongmen have to, idiot. And Izlee, even if he is the true king of /fit/, has been memed heavily throughout his entire training career.

>>41197063

Pretty sure Bodorio pulls conventional too

Thoughts on standing barbell lunges for stronker quads?
Switched to low bar recently and the sticking point out the hole is ridiculously slow. Apparently high bar memeing for a year did nothing for my quads

>>41197089
Haack
Gibbs

I-I was memeing about the sumo vs conventional thing.

>>41197041
You mean before even going down to grab the bar, tighten my back? I can try that out to see how it looks.

>>41197089
Fil has tried sumo but his monkey brain which allows him such brute strength does not allow him to master sumo.

>>41197103
Oh wow, confirmed roider and probable roider, great examples

>>41197123
Yeah, it's helped me out a lot basically before you grab the bar, while standing you
1. brace core
2. set lats
3. set neutral spine
4. hinge hips
5. bend down and grab the bar

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>>41197138
>confirmed roider
gibbs failed a drug test??!?

>>41197154
Trip on Haack :^)

>>41197138
How could haack pin if he doesn't even know what to do with his hands

>>41197093
Good for keeping your hips flexible and staving off knee injury, can't hurt anything. The sticking point right past parallel is never going to go away no matter how strong you get.

>>41197173
If i was haack 5 would be "fuck tightness nigga rip that shit"

>>41197155
Lifter A
>compete in steron fed
>make unnatty bench progress
>deadlift like a retard

Lifter B
>ay goiz no steeroids hee-yah
>jost binching foive hahndred at 183 yeah?

>>41197193
>Stanzalol (or something)

>>41197177
yeah but I feel like its really ugly, almost twink alex tier

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>>41197193
>the IPF isn't a steron fed
>make unnatty bench progress
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTQwBVolcHn/?taken-by=bg_waiweight
ikr
>deadlift like a retard
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTBQTkeFp2E/?taken-by=bg_waiweight&hl=en
RIGHT

>>41197138
I know its bait but I'm bored

Does roiding make you stronger in different ways that makes conventional a better choice?

>>41197234
no

>>41197230
He's benched 217.5 now

You can't be suspect of Gibbs and think Haack in natty, can you?

>>41197256
Haack is definitely natty. I talked to him and he said steroids are bad. Idk about Gibbs though, you can't trust those kiwis.

should I do pullups or chinups

>>41192927
Do you guys and gals adjust the tip of your toes between squad reps?

>>41197256
haack is a real american. Gibbs is a foreigner. Americans have morals foreigners are commies

>>41197205
Paused squats are your friend. I'm actually really surpised HB did nothing for your LB, I'd love to see a form check. Whenever I've hammered HB volume for a while my LB feels a lot better.

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>>41197256
I think they're both natty tbqdesu

>>41197266
but roiding is as American as apple pie

(I know both of you can't say what you think as Haack probably comes here and you see him irl)

>>41197234
No not really, I'm just being a faggot. You do tend to see much sloppier "just get it up bro" form among roiders though.

>>41197266
>Haack is definitely natty.
>I talked to him and he said steroids are bad.

Hulk Hogan just prayed and ate vitamins.

>>41197271
Yeah, sure.

>>41197290
I unironically believe he is natty. Maybe it's because I've only been lifting for 2 years so I don't realize how hard gains stall out after a while, but his progress doesn't seem that crazy and he's literally been lifting like 12 years.

>>41197304
>Just get it up bro
This lad, i have a roidaroo buddy that pulls 100lbs more than me with a disgustingly rounded back that has never heard the term brace before

>>41193392
why do you keep posting mattie in plg? she's owg you fuck

>>41197328
>owg
>search /fit/
>NOTHING FOUND

??????

>>41196285
305/140~ x10 for an ERM is a 420/190 squat

>>41196959
hold the mouse over his shoulder

watch how it moves forward 2"-6" at the start of every lift

stop leaning back too much

>>41197341
Depends on the person. I have a friend who hit 405 for 8 on squat and maxed out at 425

>>41197323
>p-please don't hurt me next time I see you haacksan

>>41197376
i feel like that was a mental barrier

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So how does it feel that I did a 165lbs bench 10RM and I am still more athletic than all you faggots

>>41197376
I find that really unlikely, in which case get me his email so I can get him a program to properly prep him to peak because it sounds like he just did high rep shit and then one day decided to 1rm

>>41197382
I do too but that would have to be a huge mental barrier

>>41197406
squats are spooky senpai

>>41197394
ERM 219

so close buddy

>>41197403
I think thats literally what he did cuz hes a bodybuilder fag.

>>41197420
just ignore it

>>41197287
I was thinking about front squats because Im trying to unfuck my thoracic extension issues as well

It may be because I havent done low bar in such a long time that Ive forgotten how its supposed to feel. Also i've only had a couple sessions of low bar with the last one being on a shitty day. Im going to go to sleep early and see how they feel tomorrow

>>41197420
to be fair I could probably do atleast a 225 bench still if I was driving my legs the whole time I was basically a limp noodle cause I'd probably blow a gasket if I had to brace and arch the whole time for 10 reps of benching

This program is a weird feel, almost vommited from the squats

http://www.builtforthisathletics.com/apps/blog/show/32744517-the-lsus-program-aka-pierce-10-5-3-peak

>>41197465
>It may be because I havent done low bar in such a long time that Ive forgotten how its supposed to feel.

At least at first, not terribly different from your highbar. I would say that the thing I benefit the most from after a HB cycle is a nice flat-backed upright torso. If I see gains in quad strength they're overshadowed by my ability to fight forward collapse coming out of the holle.

>>41197328

OWG is dead and it's probably never coming back, every thread dies after like 100 posts

Better off just having one thread

Just realised I'd let my bench grip creep in

I moved it out a finger today and damn it feels good again for once. No collapsing onto my chest and just more consistent.

Really feel good for a good pr now

>>41196818
kg

fuark. i was close grip benching and wound up with too much pressure on my thumb and hyper extended it or something. my thumb and bicep are sore

>>41197511
Low bar hasnt been feeling comfy at all. Hopefully i smash it tomorrow.

Im able to keep my torso upright, its just that my legs go isley wobble wobble

>>41197626
do you have trouble keeping your wrists from collapsing back with close grip?

i always do

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>>41193434
better

>>41197630
You shouldnt be very upright with lowbat

>>41197677
yes but you shouldnt look like youre trying to suck your own dick either

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Defend this powershitters

Why do you guys think in SS rippetoe has you deadlift once every nine days but then on TM it becomes once a week?

Does he think that the fairy makes you more able to recover from DL at higher weight rather than lower?!

how do i stop being a fat piece of shit

>>41197739
He also says tm is for serious lifters when ss is for literally everyone

>>41197739
>Why do you guys think in SS rippetoe has you deadlift once every nine days but then on TM it becomes once a week?
>deadlift once every nine days

Even on the most "advanced" version of the program you're deadlifting at least once every 3 days. So I don't know what led you to that conclusion.

>>41197739
SS - deadlift every 9 days, each time its a new pr, each time its after a fuckload of squat sessions, as well as the fact that for beginners deadlift doesnt need as high of frequency
TM - Lifts are more devloped, the total frequency is higher, intensity is lower to allow for more volume
>>41197797
SS is for everyone because Rippletits thinks everyone should have a basic understanding of the basic movements and a starting base for strength, SS is to get you used to the core movements, and build a solid foundation on which to build
TM is for more serious lifters because it develops beyond a beginner phase, requires you to actually program, follows more advanced concepts, and is a intermediate program, for people who are serious about getting stronger
any jackass can run SS and make gains when they first walk into a gym. you have to have at least 2 brain cells and want to get stronger for TM to work

>>41197804
Nope. That's in stage 2.
At stage 3 you alternate Dl with PC, hence each is only performed every nine days.

>>41197828
>>41197835
also this, i forgot that powerclean gets added. TM has no cleans, so the total volume/frequency of pulling motions actually goes down

>>41197849
Tm has cleans and snatches as part of volume days pulls.
Usually puts cleans on bench day and snatches on press day.

>>41197739
i must not have done ss right because i think back when i did it i just did
A
Squat 3x5
Bench 3x5
powercleans 3x5
x
B
Squat 3x5
Press 3x5
Deadlift 1x5
x

>>41197871
there are multiple phases of SS

>>41197860
huh, the more you know
>dumb 531 fag reporting in

>>41197394
>75kg bench 10RM
how can you even show your face here man

>>41197871
Well you only did phase 2

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>>41197889
I am in control here

Do you feel in charge

>>41197877
>>41197891
never knew that desu. i even thought back then that I did a lot of research reading about routines and things

>>41197626
>>41197646
Try internally rotating your wrist more when you grip so that it lies across the meaty flesh next to the thumb. It feels weird at first because it's the opposite of what you do when you setup/tighten lats so it doesnt seem intuitive, but I found it solved a lot of my wrist issues at the time and actually made my bar path and overall press feel way better.

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>>41197734

>>41197897
I can only imagine how pathetic your upper body must look

any of you guys have good recipes for oats? or a good way to make them? It's all ive got at home right now and the store is closed, im hungry as shit and i've still not figured out a good way to cook them
i have milk, peanut butter, honey, and salt on hand
please help me brothers
>inb4 qtddtot
>about as helpful as dragging my dick across a cheese grater

>>41197965
mcdonalds has breakfast all day

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>>41197394
>Athletic
How fast is your 100m sprint?
How fast is your 100m freestyle?
How fast is your 5k?
Can you do the splits?
What's your sit and reach?
How high is your vert?
Can you box/fight/ma?
Can you even do a backflip?

>>41197986
faster than you kid

if you ever see me in public ill fuckin race your pathetic ass right after we co. pare vertical jumps and dick length

>>41197976
this isnt about breakfast this is about me being poor as fuck, there being no where to get food that is open for miles, and me having oats that i would very much like to learn how to cook already here

>>41197955
>girls

>>41198003
i just put like a cup of oats in and 2 cups of water and microwave that shit stirring every minute or so otherwise itll splode

whatever the directions say desu

>>41197965
Do you have a blender?
My preferred method is like 100g oat's, shit loads of PB, some milk and then hot water to make the temperature more palatable and savoury. Blend it, drink it. Eating oats as a meal is for chumps.

For the TM people above.
Is it acceptable to start TM before 1/2/3/4 has been reached?

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>>41196655
And I inject anabolic steroids into my glutes, lift in multiply gear and compete in a fed with basically no rules or inspections.
So fuck you.

>>41198163
Have you tried SS + GOMAD?

>>41198202
????

>>41197998
My best 100m is 11.85s

>>41197986
But what is your best equipped competition bench?

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>doing bench
>im half way through a rep
>start to question my life choices
Almost dropped the bar on my face

>>41197955
Who is this qt3.14

>>41197394
How fast can you row a 2k, if its anything above 7 minutes your not even trying.

>>41198322
>in between hard bench sets
>wonder why the fuck I even lift or care at all
>still do my whole workout
Character building, right?

>>41198322
>Get to bottom of squat
>What the fuck am I doing?

>>41198347
>>41198393

I believe in you

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nn plg

I hope you had a great monday

I hope you have a great tuesday too!

>>41195274

overtraining

>>41198393
>>41198347
i want to believe

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>>41198393
feels bad

>>41198393
I get this shit. Like why the hell am I doing any of this? Why did I put 400 pounds on my back and put myself in the most difficult position to stand back up in. I guess because I find it fun? But it also fucking sucks. It's all so arbitrary. There's literally no reason to have this weight on my back other than that for some fucking reason I decided to put it there. And fuck now I have to stand back up.

>Wait all week for new lifting shoes
>It takes 4 days longer that it should because USPS is shit
>Finally get them
>They're just over sized enough that I'll have to return them

True to size my ass.

>>41193319
roll

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Pulled the trigger on almost nos ironwork 2's, did I do good brethen? They're in the mail now i'm excited as fuck. They're creme sole too so made in Germany.

Wtf am I supposed to do?

>Want to high bar for muh cleans carryover

>Ankle? mobility too shit to highbar without lower back rounding because muh long femurs and muh hip structure. Oly shoes also pitch me forward too much, I somehow hit less depth?

>Can only front squat comfortably and vertically but upper back fails before legs

I have two options;

I follow Nuckols for squats right now, should I do something for front squats where I exclusively do lower reps to avoid back fatigue?

Do I just try a lower bar position instead but the same way as normal rather than pushing hips back etc? I wonder if this would make me more upright if I'm pitched forward?

facebook com/story.php?story_fbid=1377903235656640&id=100003109304986
That's pretty neato

>>41200188
i find it improbable that ankle mobility is your problem for high bar but you can front squat comfortably and vertically.
you probably have tight hips etc
ankle mobility is more of an issue for front squats than high bar back squats

>>41197860
This the oldest and gayest version of TM

>>41200300

I thought that the reason it could be ankle would be because you can almost have the weight further back on foot in a front squat and still be vertical, which requires less ankle dorsiflexion than a back squat where the weight has to be kept more forward?

I have no idea why I can't squat, all of the articles I read tell me that if I can goblet squat, I should be able to back squat, my goblet squat looks and feels great but my back squat doesn't.

I think it could be possible that it's tightness somewhere when I hold the bar during backsquats? Maybe I lack the ability to retract shoulders a lot without them rounding forward slightly. This wouldn't show in a goblet squat.

How could I address this ?

>>41197034
Stop pretending to be me

taking a stinky smelly Norman khan right now

>>41193319
rolling

>>41200592
Same I'm doing a nice SSSCNTK100 into my toilet bowl as I'm typing this. It's quite smelly but came out smoothly :)

>>41200888
Make sure you flush that shit back to India

>>41200274
This page isn't available

i injured my lower back while unracking the bar for squats
what do i do now? squatting/bending over hurts

I miss Dino

>>41195275
>>41195275
>>600lb bench is natural
>>28 free complete dogshit programs

This is probably coming from a roiding freak that can't even push 315. Just because he's stronger than you, doesn't mean he's not a natty.

While I don't agree with his programmes, it seems like it works for him and other people that have tried it.

>>41201280
Don't squat?? I think the answer is pretty simple. Next time don't be stupid and unrack the weight properly instead of doing good-mornings.

>>41200963
back to the homeland?

>>41200188

>Want to high bar for muh cleans carryover

There's your problem. Deadlift and front squat for clean carryover.

Then lowbar squat for general strength.

>just measured wingspan
>6'9
wow
my bench or deadlift aren't even disproportionate, wtf?

>>41202181
U wut. How tall are u?

my lower back is uber tight what to do what stretches

>>41202191
6'4

235lbs bench and 390dl(don't laugh)

>>41202228

your dl is disproportionate, you clearly have weak dl for that height

im 6'3 I bench same and dl way more and my wingspan isnt that stupid

>>41198341
>girl (male)

>>41202246
tbf most spergs on plg did SS>TM, which objectively lacks upper body volume. My bench might be a little stronger but it's still not super disproportionate. Either way that's still really weird that I can't deadlift more/bench less.

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>>41201090
Re

>>41197193
Haack made no bench gains even with the benefit of the 24 hour weigh in. I found it hard to believe, but everything about his US open performance points to him being natty.

>>41202228
What? I bench the same and deadlift 500. How can your dl be so weak?

>>41202330
Belkin is insane

>>41202459
because hes 6'4, natty and likely does not carry much muscle mass

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>>41202481

ye eddie hall is 6'4 too

>>41202493
>some 6'4 guy with absolute e-l-i-t-e genetics on steroids who likely weighs twice as much as this guy

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>>41202526

you miss point, height isnt a factor, you should know that only things that matter are leverages

you can be 5'0 with long femurs, and im 6'3 with short

I win

>>41202540
While that is true in theory in reality no 6'3 person has short femurs since height gain is more likely to be in femur length than in torso length

I have never ever seen a tall guy with relatively short femurs but im sure a few exist

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>>41202563

Im 6'3 and I have stupid femurs, my quads are short when my shins are long and squating is very easy for me, my legs are huge too my squat is on pair with my deadlift or even better

squatting 200kg after not 2y of lifting

>>41202563
yeh shirt femurs on a tall dude are the same length or longer than long femurs on a short one

not to say thats gonna hold you back. tons of super tall people are strong as shit. isnt pete rubish like 6'2?

What do if I feel a lump on one side in my lower back and it hurts all the time?

>>41193319
be honest here. how many of them have dicks? also rolling for 3

>>41193319

Is week 4 of c6w the easiest? I inflated my maxes and squats felt @6-7.

>>41202076
thanks raffy

>>41202611
be yourself

>>41202611
what kind of lump

>>41203215
i think it gets easier as you go

week one. and two and the hardest for me

>>41203519
Not sure how to describe

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when is blueshoes going to rehab?

https://youtu.be/Q9cee6uquM8

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>>41203706
he's a big guy

>>41203706
is this how you achieve his wobble

>>41193319
Agatha GET

>>41197193
haack made almost no improvement aside from wraps dead bar and 24 hour weigh in he has either always been on roids or is still natty.

>>41193319

>>41194996
I look at the weight when squattibg, I imagine that if I don't succeed future gains will go away. Get mad for trying to pussy out then do Squatrage. For diddy I just channel my inner autism and listen to k-pop

>>41205354