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is it normal to be almost limping after pushing 3ml into my VL

also is it too deep putting a 1.5 onch needle almost all the way in?

How long should I cruise between blasts? I know reddit says to cruise as long as you blast but fuck waiting 4 months.
I'm thinking 6 weeks

>>41179816
wha choo pinnin bbgurl

>>41179816
S T O P

>>41179829
B L O O D S

>>41179829
i mean if you want to die in 10 years yeah wait 6 weeks.

>>41179816
whats in all dat

>>41179816
thats a lot of ml man maybe cut it in half and do half in each leg

>>41179973
I second this.
I used to pin 3ml, but i'd usually switched up the spots. at least 50/50.
and before some autistic asks, no just pull it out, jab it back in some other spot. no switching pins or any that

>>41179875
>>41179946
>>41179973
mixed a couple mL of oil
added 1/8 a teaspoon of test E powder (which is like ~650mg)
a little squirt of benzyl alcohol

i then held it over my kettle to help it all dissolve

mixed it with the syringe, drew it up and pinned

came out to like 4ml of liquid so about a mL (10-200mg of test im assuming) went down the drain

>>41180025
Ah its you again.

Main line it.

Whats a good juice to start with?

I've been recommended tren but thats all I really know.

Also what AI and PCT is worth getting?

I have not lifted properly in over a year, my aim is to do 12 weeks intense to get back into it. Then drink my juice.

>>41180048
>Whats a good juice to start with?
irn bru

>>41180048
read the op you mongoloid

>>41180025
This is...unconventional, no?

>>41180093
Settle down

>>41180148
who cars... we"re freaks haha (jason genova quote)

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Kill me. I love this girl but because of school and work our schedules won't match for another 2 weeks or so. God, I want to take her out for an amazing day in an unfamiliar city then back to a swanky hotel and fuck her till she can't cum anymore.


And some sloot on leddit wants to suck me dry but I'm sketched out that she's carrying some disease.

>>41180183
FWIW the herpes meds I'm on I've had one breakout in the last 2 years so science is p good

>>41180162
You're talking to a guy who reuses pins and gets flamed for most the shit I do.
Don't you dare think I'm criticizing you kek

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>>41180225
The girl was from that randomactsofblowjob page on leddit, so the disease concern as well as being catfished is also real.

>>41180256
Why the fuck are you reusing pins when they're .10 a piece and needles are like .05.

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Everyone says to stop DNP if I get pins and needles but why live if I'm not shredded? I don't get how DNP causes neuropathy. Do I need electrolytes or what?

>>41180256
>>41180278
ya even i use a fresh pin every time and im too poor to afford vials and syringe filters and a scale to properly brew my test

btw how long do yu think itll take begore i get a serious infection with my current technoque of dosing?

Is 1500mg a good frontload for 600mg test-e pw

>>41180335
S T O P

>>41180388
www.steroidcalc.com

>>41180393
thats not helpful

>>41180395
it is very helpful.

plot your cycle.

>>41180402
im olive oil anon you retard

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>not kickstarting with a test megadose

>>41180412
oh, then please stop posting already, you're not funny

>>41180477
what kind of dose was that?

>>41180517
thats 750mg twice a week for 2 weeks then 250mg twice a week for the remainder (until the 20th week)

>>41180527
How did 1.5g of test feel? How fast did it kick in?

>>41180548
Feels great nothing better

>>41180548
im not actually doing that

but ive statted my first cycle about a week ago and so far ive been pinning about 1.5g a week, honestly.

i think im feeling it. dick sensitive snd bigger, more confident.

kidna made myselg feel shitty by doing too much meth thkugh. think i lost some muscle too.

currently recogering. we'll see how things turn out

>>41180560
>>41180561
how would one manage sides on such a high frontload?

>>41180582
dbap

>>41180582
With asin

Any of you dealt with skin issues before?
Laser work?

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>>41180645
What kind of skin issues? Acne, yes but I used Accutane and it may be coming back some on my face from high tren but nowhere near as bad. Stretch marks too but I just ignore them.

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>>41180645
Beam weapons are overrated

Any of you lads on caber? I'm not on steroids but my doctor says I've got high prolactin and I'm pretty sure it's messing with muh dick. I'm not waiting 2 months for an appointment with an endocrinologist so I'm just going to buy caber off AB

>>41180609
>>41180593
what kind of doses are we talking? could you translate it to arimidex?

>>41180687
yes high prolactin will definitely mess with your dick

I wouldn't fuck around and self-medicate caber as a natty though... hope you have easy access to bloodwork cause dopamine agonists ain't nothing to fuck with

Is it okay to ask about SARM use here? What PCT should I take with a cycle of 10mg of LDG for 12 weeks?

What is better for ending up shredshredded after a cycle:
>Cut till I'm lean as i want to be then bulk during cycle making sure I don't become fat
>bulk during cycle then cut afterwards
>recomp

>>41180687
Wait the two months, it will be a pain in the arse but just do it.

Unfortunately inpatients is the worst thing and can cause you more hassle than needed.

>>41180779
completely wasting your time and money m8, SARMs are a fucking joke and it's an absolute fucking disgrace that they're being sold

>>41180757

Yeah, I know it's risky but I'm really struggling to hold my relationship together atm with muh dick not working properly. I'm thinking low dose and see what happens.

>>41180803
>cycles
wew


i would bulk on a blast, and then just extend your cycle for 2 months with a 250mg dose for cutting, if you dont want to BnC

>>41180829
explain to the whore the situation and use your fucking tongue and a dildo on the bitch.

redpill me on roids, if I reach my natty limit within a cycle, will the gains up to the natty limit remain when I stop roiding?

>>41180818
Okay now what PCT do I take?

>>41180851

Did a lot with the tongue and fingers and eventually fugged this morning and she seemed happy enough. Maybe you boys are right.

It's a fucking weird feeling. I do want to have sex with her a lot, but it's all mental and I don't have the physical compulsion that I think I used to have with previous girlfriends. Like I could totally live without it. Does this ring bells with anyone?

>>41180669
Yeah, accutane fixed the acne, but the scars and pores piss me off.

Wondering if beaming shit up could fix the apperance

>>41180855
none so you can shut down your test and get a script from your doctor for trt.

>>41180962

Holy fuck, does this work?

What happens if I take a steroid cycle that just never ends?

>>41180853
Read the OP

>>41180975
There is no way a doctor wont put you on trt if your test is like 150.

>>41180988
it will end eventually

>>41181005
>it will end eventually

How?

>>41181020
(spoiler)you die(spoilerwithaslash)

>>41180901
sounds like you've finally transcended your pathetic carnal bounds, enjoy uninhibited freedom

What's the roid that people take to get really lean really quickly, but is also pretty dangerous?

>>41181134
not a roid

DNP

and its not even that dangerous

>>41181134
Tren

Bimbo if you want to talk shit I will pay for your trip to Del Ray Beach where we will fight (refereed by big lenny) man to man.

>Tfw I cant use dnp so im stuck on a psmf with 1 hour liss cardio with 16mg Yohbimine/caffeine and then fallowed by Ephedrine/caffeine stack to supress the hunger.
Oh and im also on 175mg test ew and 50mg var ed.

If i didnt just finish my first blast I would be on tren right now.

>>41181148
Thanks. Do you have any good resources for reading about it or should I just google

>>41181315
google dnp and then pastebin

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>got bloods back
>MY TESTOSTERONE LEVEL IS ON THE LOW SIDE OF NORMAL

I've been injecting olive oil for 7 weeks boys (:

>>41181374
time to bitch to your source m8

>>41181374
name and shame bro

>one week without alcohol
>1 1/2 without tranny hookers
Were all going to make it

Although last tranny I faked finishing so I could leave lol

>>41181284
Why liss
Hiit and a workout
Ed

Do you want to lose weight or not

>>41181513
>Hiit with ECY?
Do you want my heart to explode.
Oh and I do work out but later in the day after im done work.

Why bother doing cardio when you could just eat less?

>>41181548
Cardio still has a positive impact on heart health and how you utilize nutrients for energy.

>>41181548
Why bother working out when you can just take steroids and build muscle?

>>41181503
This

>>41181530
Youre on 3 stims and youre walking
Smh
I need to move on yoh
Get jittery if I dont run

Oh thats good, I do them both at once for convince and that way I only need 1 post workout carb a day

>>41181548
Why not both

>>41181568
Oh btw I started watching Hinako Note, thanks for the recommendation

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>>41181148
I'm on day 2 of 200 mg DNP and I've got mild pins and needles throughout my body. I've had pins and needles my whole life but it's more noticeable with the DNP, and affects more areas.

I've instructed my gf to post here if I die with my cause of death.

>>41181747
pins and needles within the first few days is normal

it usually goes away pretty fast

if it doesn't, then stop taking the stuff.

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tfw you hurt your back readjusting dakis to be more comfy playing im@s

I need to start doing deds again

>>41181741
How could this show not be good

That skeleton magician one seems comfy too but I keep forgetting to watch it

>>41181747
No girls allowed

Is tren the only aas that has an impact on the jawline or is there anything else that I can run that might make an impact.

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>>41181796
Got it, thanks. I know the odds of one day of 200mg causing actual peripheral neuropathy is low so I'm assuming for now that's not the case. I'm 6'3" so 200 mg is a really low dose for me especially.

>>41180326
I just ordered dnp. Going to take 250 for two weeks and see how it goes.

>>41181840
anything that lowers bodyfat and water retention impact jawline nerd. no steroid is going to make your jaw bone grow unless ur underage or use it for a decade.

>>41181860
I thought tren jaw was a thing.
Oh well looks like i have to look into peps. If I remeber correctly, people where recommending CJC 1295 for those with weak jaw lines but I might be wrong

>>41181956
just eat less? unless your jaw is inverted it will look cut as hell at 10% or less BF regardless of size.

>>41181972
also j-just be your self bro.

if it were only that easy.

>>41181860

A decade huh...

>>41181994
post jaw or stfu

>>41181747
"Hey Baby, it's been great lately, your mom and dad are hilarious. Hey listen, I've started taking a low dose of an industrial pesticide as instructed by a text document posted on a korean washtowel meme generation website, can you do me a favour and log on there and tell them if I die? Thanks bunches."

Im considering a anavar only cycle for 8 weeks, any advice?

can do 1/2/3/4 for reps, i just want a little more mass

>>41182121
why just start out with 200mg of test and see what happens?

>>41182121
orals shut down your natural test you fucking retard so you need to run test with them or you will be fucking miserable and will look like shit

don't do steroids if you don't even understand this

>>41182188
I searched only and it seems like a short anavar cycle will give me some gains that i can keep after if i do pct., but maybe i should do test on top? Whats the best idea?

Sorry for shitty english

>>41182199
even if it is just 6-8 weeks?

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>>41181860
>no steroid is going to make your jaw bone grow unless ur underage
How old are we talking here, and would 250 mg of test e affect a 17 year olds jaw?

>>41182188

200 mg test is barely above TRT levels. You won't feel much. The standard first cycle is about 500mg for 12-16 weeks.

>>41182239
Just use growth hormone.

>>41182236
uh yeah? nobody in the history of ever would recommend an oral only cycle you at minimum need a TRT level of testosterone to bring you back to normal levels after getting shut down.

>>41180225

Science is going to get even better here my man. I'm probably on the same meds, but there is at least one new drug in end stage trials and some others taking alternative routes to the FDA

>>41182304
Plenty of people run oral cycles with no shutdown. A 8-week cycle of Tbol is not gonna kill your nuts.

>>41182341
nobody who knows what they're doing runs oral only cycles stop deluding yourself mininuts

>>41182341
So it is possible? I Just want a couple of kg of muscle

I feel the comfiest running 600 test-e... what would be worth adding that is not tren/mast or deca?

Tried dbol for 4 wks but in the end all i got was feelz and little strength gain.

Want some extra gains brehs

>>41182352
Honestly if my nuts hung any lower I'd sit on them too often. Continue being assblasted by people taking only orals (which were designed to work without additional test injections).

>>41182385
Have you tried lifting and eating?

>>41182388
Runs four weeks of dbol and makes gains but it's not enough

Implying

>>41182388
Get some equipoise in you, my friend

>>41182388
Why no mast or deca? Both of those make you feel great in addition to gains.

>>41182388
Eq or more test. Maybe trest or primo if you've got the cash.

>>41182385
Of course. The only way to find out is try it for yourself.

>>41182388
Same.
Like some people said EQ is nice and milk and good gains.
I started to get meh towards sex on eq which i aint about. blood pressure and sometimes even anxiety can happen
>>41182414
mast is a good addition, but it's most beneficial when you are really lean. nothing wrong with it, but it's mild to the point you wonder if it's doing anything. if you got plenty disposable cash, sure

>>41182388
feelz?

My dad said he is gonna start taking winny. He knows jack shit about roids. I gave him the wiki and keep telling him there is more to it than taking a pill. How bad he gonna fuck his shit up

>>41182925
he will lose sub water, get harder looking muscles and some extra endurance.
he will most likely fuck 0 shit up

>>41182925
he's going to see nearly no gains and heavily suppress/shutdown his natty test production depending on how long he's on

he'll bounce back eventually but he'll feel like shit for a while

>>41182954
>>41182962
He is under the impression that's all he needs. I'll keep pushing him to read more. Told him I hear pinning test with a oral is only way to really gain.

>>41182983
Done plenty oral only before i pinned.
it's wildly memed how bad it is. especially something so wild like wini

>>41183063
Ok thanks anon. So basically just no results? He pretty old so his test levels prob low anyways. And if he wanted actual results he needs to pin some test with it and be ready to do actual cycle instead?

20% BF and 78kg at 5'11. Pigged out these last couple of months and wanted to get lean for the summer but might decide to say to fuck it and maybe go for my first cycle and get /thicc/. Should I cut down further first so I can add mass and not look shit or just go get it over with?

Was planning on 40mg dbol/day for 4 and 500mg test/week for 12

>>41183119
if he has lower bodyfat he will def get results
The idea of "pin for results" is very vague. What type of results.
he could take "oral only" dbol with oral tren and put on a goo amount of size (although probably wont last long once off)
by the way, i'm not saying oral only is better by any means. it is better. but not everyone is ready for that type of leap

>>41182260
not him but i was thinking of getting two 10ml bottles of test (300mg/ml but obvs might be a tad underdosed) and pinning 1ml for i guess 6 weeks to see if its worth just finishing the cycle at that dose based off of

>what the levels of gains are like in every aspect (stength,size, confidence, energy etc.) and
>the prevalence of sides (ie 'am i sensitive to gyno?')

or for the next 7 weeks bumping it up 2x a week (14ml left at that point) and seeing how much of a difference doubling up makes in terms of the same aspects and taking ai if i turn out to be sensitive

wise strategy? anyone who knows pls respond

>>41183321
anything below 500mg is wasting your time and money imo, unless you have very low natty test levels you will not get the kind of results you are expecting

>>41183185
He says he gonna start working out. I have doubts as to how long he will work out. Hate to say it but he is lazy. He has lost bunch of weight though. He thinks he is gonna get huuuge. I have been trying to learn a lot in a day. Lmao thanks for your input

>>41179940
Says who

>>41183418
Well one thing you could tell him is wini is for cutting and doesn't even produce that big of gains.
but it's not going to cause a great deal of harm, with wini he won't have to worry about gyno n shit really.
dads

>>41183321
1. Unless you have low natty test you won't really feel or notice much from 500mg a week, much less 300mg

2. Overdosing is more common than under dosing for test

3. You can never get all of the oil out of a vial, plan on losing at least one mL.

>>41183369
yeah i keep hearing that, i suppose when it comes to injecting drugs the go hard or go home mentality is valid, but im assuming most people think im expecting everything to skyrocket and ill gain 15kg in 10 weeks, wanting to suddenly blow up in size in front of all my friends and family and gf, which i really dont

plus i've seen a lot of big guys including the poxy youtubers of course say that 1ml is a great intro dose and youll make modest but better than natty gains, and just as many smalls all bragging about taking this that and the other yet look like nothing

whichever the case i get the feeling it pays to be cautious, but like i said ill buy two bottles anyway and either way at some point will be doing 2ml/w, thanks

>captcha: cycle through

>>41183478
Ok good. He said he gonna use himself as guinea pig and wants me to juice after. I was kicking it around but I wanna really know more before staring and really wanna wait a couple years and get some good natty gains first. I know right him and my mom recently divorced and he has a couple of well bachelor type friends who are all juicy and he wants go be now too

>>41183592
just jump straight in. takes a month or so to gradually build up in your system so you will have plenty of time to assess tolerance. 500mg of test really isn't all that much, only minor AI use will be required

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Hello again, my fellow steroid users! It is I, your fellow steroid user who also does steroids. How are you all doing today? Sure does feel like a good day to do steroids, doesn't it?

>>41182412
I keep hearing EQ is weak and I shouldn't bother... how would you dose it to make it work on a test cycle?
>>41182414
I tried Proviron at 100mg... I don't like the sides, so I generally stay away from DHT based steroids. Deca because of the "studies on ergo-log" and Prolactin.
>>41182422
Is Trest+Test worth the extra AI needed? Also, thinking about adding Primo... just don't know if the 200$/month addition is going be worth it on a bulk.

>>41183609
yeah getting the feeling thats the way to go, maybe i'm just a puss, i would say i dont train just bb or general strength but i compete in wl, havent for a while and gonna leave competitions obvs until im off, but decently heavy stuff now even as a natty 98 at 127142 trying to fill out 105, so tendon health is an issue

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>>41183647
>I heard EQ was weak
>I tried proviron

>>41183642
Kek idk why people hate on the fraud LARPers they crack me up every time

Requesting olive oil anon interacts with not a cop

I was running test/deca without an AI. Estro and prolactin was out of control and my dick barley worked. Switched to test and tren and started using adex and prami and i was almost rock hard 24/7. Continued using adex .5 everyday and 0.125 prami before bed along with 1mg letro twice a week and im pretty sure i crashed my estro since my dick is limp as a noodle now

What should I do? Drop ais completely for a week then start a really low dose of adex?

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>>41183855
Haha I don't understand either, my friend. I would quite enjoy talking with this "olive oil" so that perhaps we could talk about our muscular physiques. Here, I have attached a picture of my own body in order to show how much I enjoy steroids.

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>>41183989
My bigezt muscle

Quad

injected 3ml today

still kind of limping..

my second cycle, 600 test e 600 eq. few weeks in. today I started getting this spasm in the lower part of my heart that lasts for a few minutes, few times an hour. any medbros wanna tell me if I'm gonna die

>>41180901
Yes. I recently experienced this with a girlfriend (now ex). Our sex was fucking amazing but it always felt like I did it for her, I didn't have my own physical compulsions that often.

>>41184028
are you certain it's your heart not your throat/esophagus?

>>41184102
> fucking for girls
never gonna make it

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Have any of you guys had packs come through NY with ancillaries in them recently? Are they still holding onto them for a long ass time?

>>41184497
Few months ago
Was decent

Held my figure recently for far longer

>>41184102
That's just like my ex, minus the amazing sex. We'd have shitty sex once a week and I'd whack it like eight times lol.

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>>41184009
Very nice! I also quite enjoy your penis, as I too am a homosexual, much like many of you here. Here is a picture of me at one of my many homosexual festivals, that I frequent very frequently.

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>>41184506
>for far longer
THANKS TRUMP

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>>41184776
Night senpai, I'm going to sleep too. Been up since 0200.

>>41181563
Does sex count for cardio if I go hard for 30-60 mins and I'm gasping for air with my heart racing afterwards?

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>>41184776
Night sleepy anon

Think I'm gonna start dieting down. Haven't been able to keep up eating all week to continue bulking. Smh.

Also started watching Spartacus as it's dank af.

>>41184984
>30-60 mins
who are you trying to fool

>>41185010
Nobody. I got phimosis so it takes me ages to cum. Just got out of the bath after a ~40-50min sesh with the gf, and I was sweating like a mad cunt afterwards.

>>41184776
I'm out too , sleepanon
back to work. gnite famms

>>41183980
Drop the ai. That's a shit ton of letro. Try more like 0.1mg twice a week. If you got pills dissolve them in alcohol for easier dosing.

Starting second test cycle, two pins in.

Each delt injection has caused redness and I guess swelling (tightness, soreness almost like bruising) lower down around my bicep. Nothing intense just a discomfort.

This just a reaction to the initial pins or something else? Did my last cycle mainly hitting glutes so I'm not sure if the location change could be part of it.

>>41185460
how hot are the injection sites?

>>41185460
It sounds like a subq leak. What length needles and how fat are you?

>>41180225
DMSO
M
S
O

>>41185629
A few quick searches make it sound just like that.

Using 23g and 1inch right now. 6'1 and 187 no fat at all really.

>>41185693
It sounds like a subq but that length needle and low fat makes it seem like some bad pip instead. Look up signs of an infection to be safe though.

>>41185714
I'll keep an eye on it. Interested to see the results when I rotate back to the first site next week. Have a feeling that I also injected poorly after being off for awhile.

I'm 100% natty atm. How do I trick my doctor into thinking I have low T? I'm 31.

>>41185856

Get some propecia

>>41180025
THIS IS MY FAVORITE FUCKING MEME

>also i'm drunk

i've got my needles, swabs, syringes, test and aromasin all in my safe, im just too pussy to get it out and start my cycle

dont wanna fuck up my glute inject and end up in hospital with an abscess

what do

>>41181284
>16mg Yohbimine
do you unironically weigh 80lbs

>>41180901
Take Alpha-GPC (Now Foods has it pretty cheap iirc). Used for cognitive function boosting originally but huge libido increase is a fun little side effect for some people.

>>41181284
>>41186304
lel sorry, no you dont and my math was off

>>41184275
yeah, it's right below my heart on the left side of my body

>>41184028
>>41186470
but basically, it's not likely I'm having heart problems from AAS on my second cycle, right? probably something latent

>>41184560
tremendous kek

>>41180048
Apple and blackcurrant

>>41186470
It's probably a muscle or something, I get it right above my heart where it spasms out sometimes, then again I'm not on steroids
Try taking magnesium

>>41186551
Vimto son

>>41186470
does it hurt at all when it happens?

>>41186597
yeah, i hope. thanks breh
>>41186633
no, not at all

Any of you cretins use a pre workout?

Tfw 4am... at least I get to pin when I wake up

>>41186854
I take about 10 antihistamines daily.

That's about 2 grams

>>41184986
>Spartacus
i need to constantly mutter n-no homo to myself while watching it, but kahuna speaks no lie, pretty good stuff

>>41186889
>I take about 10 antihistamines daily.
>
>That's about 2 grams
Why did I find this funny

>>41186854
unironically beet extract (beetelite in my case but any should be fine). dat dere near toxic nitrogen retention my nigga

>>41186960
like a pair of eggs in a silk sock

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R8 my blast
1-6
Adrol 50mg e

1-7
Proviron 50 ed for Drol bloat

Week 1-8
Npp 400mg a week

Week 9-24
Tren e 500mg

Week 1-22
Eq 800

Week 1-24
Test e 400

Got some sarms and PEPs in there too

>>41187051
You posted this in last thread did you not?

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>>41187051
be careful when mixing two 19-nor compounds like npp and tren, shutdown is gonna be real

>>41187063
No I've been on holiday for 3 weejs

>>41187084
Yeah that why I'm running one after the other not together

>>41187051
it's ok, a lot of gear.
tren/drol/eq, I hope you are fit, lean, do cardio and plan to donate blood. Otherwise BP might fuck you over real bad.

>>41187051
This should suffice for a steady bulk right?

>>41187116
45 mins cardio a day, 105kg 6' 15%

>>41187116
What does your course look like?

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>have plenty test e, aromasin and nolva on hand
>dieted down and now smaller than I thought
>lifts not super great
>scared of abscesses and infections
>live with gf, things are ok but don't want a breakup to interfere with cycle
>too many second thoughts

Anyone else know my feels?

>>41187137
Do it fgt

Ded

>>41187137
Yes mate I was in your shoes a couple of hours ago, a natty scared bitch. See post: >>41186270

I just ended up saying fuck it, get this over and done with. Swabbed, stabbed myself with 25g needle in the glute, didn't feel a thing (literally not a single thing, im not exaggerating), popped my asin and now I'm happy.

Just do it, been on cycle for a couple of hours now and can already feel mentally a little different. Could be placebo, could be the asin taking my estro down (had high estro to begin with), but JUST DONT WORRY

>>41187126
Not bad stats, I am 111 at your heigh and about the same bf.
Maybe a bit lower not sure. still good striations on chest, veins on my quads etc. Maybe just holding water.

Just keep an eye out for high bp. That's the one thing I get when doing the wrong drugs or ganing weight too quickly.

>>41187134
right now 750 test.
in a week I'll start 500/500 test/deca. maybe 750 of one.
I've never done so much gear, but I am pretty sure I am going to do my first comp next year, nationals in a smaller european country. So I might have to step my game up, as long as bloods allow it and I feel good ofc.

>>41187244
Thanks dude. I'm going to wait till my gfs back, have a chat and make sure shes not going to get shitty.
Do us a favor and keep us updated as you go?

>>41187302
Don't tell her you're hopping on.

>>41187326
tfw my gf pins my glutes and quads for me.
tfw she is supporting of everything I do, as a good women should be.

how does it feel to have a shitty gains goblin gf?

If I want to dose my ECY twice a day (before morning jog and pre late afternoon cardio/workout), should I split the dose (yohi 0.1mg/kg, EC half of however much I end up taking) or can I yolo a full dose twice without my heart exploding if there is like 12 hours in between? Sleeping well afterwards is not an issue, I just kinda worry about overdoing it.

>>41187442
check bp, check how you feel.
not rocket science man

>>41186854
been taking pumpdrol, is bretty gud :DD

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about to bite the bullet, does this looks good?

>>41187485
Lel I feel fine on any amount of stims, thats part of the problem :^) Just wanted to ask if there was any inherent dangers to dosing it more often besides the usual ones (some people are pretty scared of doing more than 0.2/kg a day), but I will monitor bp and see. I did worse and am still alive after all kek

Would a single cycle jumpstart my gains or just waste my money? Inb4 one cycle is a myth hurrdurr

>>41187674
>will taking steroids give me gains or just waste my money

fucking end your life m8

>>41187698

>Single cycle

>>41182121
I thought about it but done 500 test and 30mg dbol each day was pretty good.

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>>41187674

there is no such thing as jumpstart. once you are off you are off. one cycle doesn't give you loyal gains.

and anyways you sound EXTREMELY DYEL. I saved 2 days ago someone's picture here who did 500mg test-e cycle if im not mistaken.

pic related. if u start dyel u will end up dyel. come back in 3+ years

>>41187765
Thanks for the info. Jump start was a shit word - I've actually been lifting for about 3 years, hitting plateaus and wanted to fraud through them. Cheers senpai

>>41187705
>WILL A STEROID CYCLE GIVE ME GAINS OR WASTE MY MONEY

WELL I FUCKING WONDER

>>41187326
I was planning on keeping it from her but its hard to hide.

We've talked about it before and she was cool with it, but as a lady she flips out for no reason sometimes.

>>41181020
By ending you

Tell me why its a good idea to run EQ with 500mg testE for my first cycle or why its a bad idea?

I know you should run only compound for the first cycle so you see how each oil affects you but i want to make good progress on my first cycle.

Also which dose would you guys reccomend with 500mg test E a week?

Plan on injecting for 16 weeks.

>>41187849
>I know you should run only compound for the first cycle so you see how each oil affects you
then you already know the reason why it's a bad idea, dipshit

>>41187849
No less than 700mg/wk

EQ is extremely weak compared to Test. Waste of money for a first cycle IMO. You'll get roughly the same results.

Money spent on EQ would be better spent on an oral kickstart (anadrol, dbol, tbol, all good options)

>>41181374

JUST

>>41187870

How much does an oral steroid add on to a test base?

>>41187849
very good idea, 500 for 30 weeks.
good look, good gains, no sides, good to your bloodwork.
you won't "feel" it, as it is mostly anabolic, you feel androgens. But it still works.

/fraud/ - How many started cycling before 'reaching your peak?'

Is it really that bad of a thing to do???

>>41187998
nobody waits for their "natty peak" but you're asking this question to rationalize your wanting to roid after 3 months of lifting so fuck off

>>41188044
2.5 years. I want to, but my lifts are not great. I want to know I'm not wasting my time cycling.

>>41187998
I lifted natty only for 3 months.

No, it's not bad unless you are powerlifter... then its snap city.

>>41188111
How were the gains?

how soon after i start implementing pineapple and more fruits is it going to affect my cum?

>>41188044
>>41188111
life imitates art

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>>41184560
kek

>>41180048
minute maid orange

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You can buy bacteriostatic water OTC from CVS and Walgreens right?

What are the main signs you notice that your estrogen is too low?

inb4 reddit wiki, I've read it I just want people's personal experiences

>>41188409
in europe you can get it from amazon

>>41188454
pretty much only joints are an accurate indicator for me

people tend to greatly underestimate how much AI they need though, not the other way around. I think from all the bloods I've seen on reddit, sub 5% had e2 within range, the rest are all like 3 times higher than they should be. crashing almost never happens unless the test is bunk and the dude uses AI

>>41188111
how did your first cycle went

>>41186470
Do you have a stethoscope? If not, buy a bp cuff on amazon for like 10$. You can listen for quite a few problems that aren't exactly simple to hear but easy enough after watching some jew tube videos.
>>I'm an emt trust me I know everything

EQ did some weird things to my heart. Do not like it.

>>41187870

But im scared of those "wet" kickstarters... i dont want to be an acne ridden gyno having puffy bloatet piece of shit just for 2-3lb of more muscle after...

>>legs have lower androgen receptors than upper body
>>everything getting big except legs even though I'm doing them twice a week
>>calves smaller than arms

Wtf do I do to get legs to catch up? I use my back alot for work so squatting everyday would be difficult.
Pls help.

Is Primo worth it?

Thinking about 800mg/week, but I keep seeing people saying it does absolute shit.

Prolly just jump on Sdrol and call it a day

>>41188657
my calves are smaller than my arms too, most peoples are. Everyones are pretty much.

How do you work your legs? I used to squat three times per week, nothing else, and they almost got too big.
Now twice a week, 2-5 sets of squats, 1-2 deadlifts, and some pump work.

>>41188679
primo is an absolute waste of money.
works great, but way to expensive, and wrecks lipids like all DHTs.

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>>41187137

I know those feels. I just hopped on the same cycle, 4 pins in.

My thought process is that far stupider people have managed to pull it off, so I should be fine. If it took a mong like Bostin literally thousands of pins before he had a problem when his one arm got puffy, everything should be gucci with babby's first cycle bby

>>41188101
If your lifts aren't at least decent at 2.5 years you are probably doing something wrong and shouldn't get on before you stop doing them wrong.

>>41188582
Then don't use a wet compound retard.

>>41183565
Losing 1ml?

How retarded are you at drawing out oil that you can't get the last 1ml left?

>>41183565
>>41188840
i just take the stopper off and pour it into the syringe lol

>>41187244
How much asin are you running m8?

>>41187244

its 110% placebo lol

>>41189035
get banned idiot

>>41188882
I'll be doing 12.5mg E3D, upping to 25mg if need be.

>>41188910
I know it's mostly placebo, but injecting some bathtub oil into your ass knowing it's a big decision kind of changed my mentality.

>>41189132
no, you are posting all the sources

>>41189138
>>41189132
eroids is a scam, no need for ban

>>41189161
it's really not

>>41188709
Do you do any accessories or just squats and deadlifts?
Doing ppl, so I'd do squats, leg press, curls, ext, calve stuff. Usually rotate leg press for hack squats or lunges.

Maybe I'll do squats on rest day too or something?

I am utterly fucking terrified of taking arimidex, can anyone help calm my nerves? (srs)

>>41189393
what the fuck is scary about adex

>>41189453
Possible rebound, maybe, fucked if /i know

>>41179791
What would be a good goal weight for somebody at 6'2 before jumping on the juice?
I'm 21 and have been in the 190-200 range for such a long time and it's bs! My arms are still only 14.75 inches (6'4 wingspan) and I'm just constantly getting demotivated despite training and diet.
When I bulk up to high 215-220, I just get fat and it seems like I don't gain muscle.

>>41189393
Update: Just took my first 0.25mg (more like 0.3mg) of arimidex, pharma grade, what can I expect?

Taken due to intense depression experienced earlier today and general tiredness over last couple of days, this is week 2 of the cycle but I had a minor frontload

>>41189277
just those two for the longest time.
Now I do a few sets of leg curls and I just started doing extensions again.

How much do you squat? As I went up in weight my legs grew. They still do, I just got some new stretch marks.
I think I have not gone up in weight in a long time, just got my squats up to 4 plates for 5 sets of 10 from 1 set and that took a long time, atg of course. I deloaded for some time, played around a bit, and now it is time for 200 kg for 8 and then 220 5*5.

>>41189488
then keep taking it

or get asin instead

>>41187765
I still can't believe how bad that kid looks lol. Just goes to show you steroids aren't magic in anyway shape or form.

>>41188771

Which Kickstarter isn't wet and good to go for first timers?

Is 0.5mg adex twice a week good for a 600mg test-e cycle?

Yes I know that everyone's different but is this a good starting point?

>>41189515
I started at 6' 200lbs, arms a bit over 16 I think.
1.5 bw bench, 2* bw squat for 3
I looked pretty good desu.

>>41189606
dimethyltrienolone, dimethylnandrolone

>>41189630

God dammit that's so good I fucking suck and am pathetic.

>>41189606
a n a d r o l
a n a v a r
e p i s t a n e
s u p e r d r o l

I actually don't know why dbol is memed as hard as it is for first timers, especially at a time when people are learning how to balance their e2 and are most at risk of growing tits.

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So /fraud/, I need your help, feel free to call me a faggot but asking cant hurt. I was diagnosed with prostate related BS, while benign and treatable that still means no more AAS for the foreseeable future. As we all now, truly unaided natty lifting sucks balls especially if youve been on before, so please help me find the most idiotic ways to cheat one or the other half lb of lbm out of my training until I can safely abuse the ronalds again (implying I can). No matter if it may be through increasing protein synthesis (laxogenin, HMB), cortisol lowering (ashwaganda, phosphatidylcholine), rebound proof estro management (curcumin/tumeric, pomegranate extract), nitrogen balance (many preworkouts, beetroot extract) or general leanness/insulin sensitivity improvement (epicatechin?).

Throw all your stupid meme supps at me, I will munch them by the fistful. The only thing I cannot do is just yolo clomid/nolva or SARMs for obvious reasons or I would. Not sure how common (((test boosters))) would fare in that regard, but given that any and all but boron and maybe tongkat are gay and fake anyway, who cares. Peptides may apply but I am wary of some of the newer ones, might be me being an oldschool oldfag though.

Have a thicc butt for attention.

>>41187948

For 30 weeks? For a first timer? Wtf

>>41189629
why do people who want to use AI twice a week keep buying adex

I don't get it

>>41189630
>dimethyltrienolone
>first timer
Jesus no

>>41189685
Adex guy here. Can you please elaborate?

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>>41189630
>dimethyltrienolone
>good kickstarter for noobs
JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL

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Starting to cut

I have a bunch of DNP lying around
Yes or no?

Someone aware me on test flu pls

>>41189754
Have you used it before?

>>41189754
Neanderthal mode, engage.

>>41189691
half life of 48 hours + estrogen rebound of non suicidal AI = ???

try solving that

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>>41189776
I have not

>>41189790
What's up with women saying they like higher bf% when IME they really prefer super lean-mode? Genuinely curious why so many women perpetuate this lie when they really love abs

Old rare twink Kahuna pic related

Also I weighed my fucking dog and she's up to 10.6 lbs.
She's pretty active but I really think she looked better at 9lbs.

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>>41189856
>What's up with women saying they like higher bf% when IME they really prefer super lean-mode?
Haven't you ever met a man who says he likes fat women? do you really think he prefers fat women, or do you think he came to that preference out of circumstance (because he can't achieve anything better) and then rationalizes it by saying he prefers it that way.

Ugly women know they can't have men with abs, so they build their preference around realistic expectations and throw rationalizations on the pile after they're done. If women really preferred men with abs, then all victoria secret models would date fat men because they can have any man they want. Obviously, they don't do that.

>>41189662
couldnt you just take finasteride or dutasteride to keep prostate issues in check while on roids

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>>41189084
>I'll be doing 12.5mg E3D, upping to 25mg if need be.

I waited a week into my cycle to start 12.5 mg E3D and my libido fucking tanked - I added 6.25 mg today (just took 12.5 mg yesterday) to see if this drops it further - I'm told this probably won't completely crash my estro if I am indeed too low but we'll see.

The joys of doing things without bloods, fuck. If I can't dial it in soon, I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and get them done.

Ok maybe I'm missing something here... But what happens to the estrogen when you take a non-suicidal AI and stop taking it when cruising?

Is unusually long recovery a sign of low e2? Did the same arm routine and weights that usually took me two days to recover from but this time I felt sore all week. Lips were also chapped and libido low.
Been off asin for the week and my lips are fine but libido seems even worse.

>>41190159

I would also like to know. I bumped my asin up with the same symptoms because I didn't have sore joints (most people point to as sign of low E2) but I wonder if I could be doing the wrong thing

r8 my cycle lads

Mon/Thurs - 300mg test-e
Mon/Wed/Fri - 0.25mg Adex

first cycle

>>41189968
Not really at this point, maybe later when its smaller or fully healed though, thought about that too.

>>41189996
e s t r o g e n r e b o u n d

>need a new smartphone camera to replace my 70$ piece of shit so I can use it to hang around in cosplays, social settings and other stupid shit like food pics and muscle pics and hook up website

>LG G4 is 240$ and extremely good specs but LOLbootloop
>huawei p8 regular is 240$ but is a step behind 2015 flagships
>honor 6x is 270$ but seems to just be mid range
>moto g5 plus is 300$ in my country, 100$ more than the USA

Why's life gotta be so fuckin hard?

>>41190159
no
>>41190253
doubt it

>>41190406
why not just get an old (((iPhone))) if your main need is a camera? android phones are extremely lacking in the camera department except for like 2 (very expensive) exceptions

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>>41190429

you ain't foolin anyone drumpberg.

>>41190384
How can one avoid this when blasting and cruising?

>>41190563
keep using the adex on an eod schedule

or get asin

>>41190563

- you simply DONT stop taking your adex
- you dont forget taking your adex
-ditch adex and get asin instead

or preferably

-hang yourself

>>41189856
High bf men are the beta providers, the safe option. The older the woman the more likely she prefers a stable beta partners to settle down with.

Regardless of age they still fuck Chad though.

Does aromataste ever come back after you take aromasin? Does your body make more, ever?

I'm scared

>>41191232
yes

enzymes naturally break down with time no matter what so the body has to mkae more, and will make more

Is it possible to run any other compounds alongside test in the same "cruising" method, i.e. low doses indefinitely? Maybe something mild like mast?

>>41191265
yeah if you don't mind being bald and acne-ridden permanently

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>>41189754

>>41191313
F A T

My appetite is fucking outrageous right now, how do I get this shit under control? Is it just temporary because I'm not used to this much test?

>>41191369
ephedrine fatass

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>>41191280

>being a GDE who balds and gets bad acne from gear

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>>41191444
Every male will get bald eventually it's just a matter of when. Androgenic steroids will speed that process up, hairlet.

I have 25mg capsules of dbol
I workout 2x a day
Can I mix it in water and drink half before a workout?
I dont want to do 50mg cuz that gave me bad sides

>>41191472
why not just pop the pill you fucking vagina?

>>41191482
Cuz I only want to take 1 capsule a day
But fuck it ill just open it and measure half
>tfw getting acne so close to summer

>>41189557
Coo thanks for the suggestion. Did squats with Push today. I'm still at lol3pl8. Nothing felt like snapping today so I'm gonna start push days with squats now. Pls grow legs.
>>5'7 manlet

>>41189662
What were your symptoms? Kinda worried about this desu. Actually why is a big prostate bad in the first place? Isn't it like having big balls? I dun get it.

>>41191639
>why is a big prostate bad in the first place

First of all, you can't piss because it's pressing on your urethra. Trust me it's not fun having to piss super bad and it just dribbles out.

You ever tried pissing right after you cum?

>>41191663
Oh I see. Spose that's not great. How quickly did you go from being able to pee to can't pee? Is it gradual? If you suddenly can't pee... I'd imagine that would cause acute kidney failure eventually

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Anyone here remember how long Alex ran EC for? Does he still pop into these threads?

I stopped lurking fraud when he and glands would shit up the threads but I did mire his fat loss. I did about a month of EC and am now doing YC. Good gains, just trying to compare my progress to another.

>tfw what you thought was just chestfat is now revealing itself to be pubertal gyno now that bf% is going down
>tfw at least you bought enough ralox to run 120mg ED for months on end

fucking masT was right about beta genes

Is MasT finally dead?

>>41191313
HNNNNNNNNNNNGGGG mirin hard af that huge ass fucking neck. did you flex it in that pic?


do you do anything for it or did it just grow naturally? I know neck gets thicker on steroids naturally but damn bruh thats thick af.

you look fuggn massive bruhh legit jelly.

>>41191923
how can something die, that has never lived?

>>41189606
tbol is another good alternative, not exactly "dry" but not wet like dbol or drol

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How much will sdrol blow up?
I just got my boatslut cosplay in and its a tad to big for me so I dont know if I should alter it or just bulk into it.

>>41191858

glands shitposting was pretty funny imo, i miss him.
yeah alex progress was nuts

and no, i havent seen both of them since a few months actually.

i also miss ESTP

im listening to the witcher 3 theme while typing this and now i have unexpected feels wew.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwKBHrMy-Wc&index=1&list=PLyFFNYcAIbe2Tadw0rp4g0uf2RU8HqGr1

>>41192278
I miss ESTP too. she had some good knowledge and even some intelligent questions about female hormones now that she wanted to become more feminine but always got shit on for her past degeneracy and honesty about it

I love you Moosey you are awesome

Ok lads I've just finished a 3 month blast, been taking arimidex 0.25mg eod this whole time, how do I transition to a cruise with regards to the AI?

>>41192326
wow thanks anon <3, ill have a tight sleep tonight because of you

i only miss ESTP because she provided some drama to this thread. Honestly without degenerate tripfags (excluding me) this general would be

>where can i get roids
>im scared off needles

>>41191951
Just a good pump. I barely work traps which is lame.

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>>41192385
atleast our saving grace bimbs is still with us, never leave us bimbs <3

>>41192411
My life is pretty great and stable atm except I'm visiting my ex this week. It's already a roller coaster.

>>41192398
nono not traps, NECK

throat thingy, whatever. You know what i mean. Its mf massive

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>>41192429
hmm that sounds really awsome bruh

but

>visiting ex

pic related

>>41192448
Oh it's just always been thick. I used to be coached by George Lilja for TE when I played hs football and he always said I had a "football neck".

>>41192429
Why, bimbo, why?

>>41192385
Join our discord faggot
Kahuna 201 at tutanota dot com

>>41192429
>visiting my ex
Nigga what?

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I know it's different for everyone and I should dial it in but can someone give examples of asin doses on a 500mg blast? What worked for you?

Thinking of starting at 6.25mg ED for a starting dose and then going up/down as needed.

>>41192693
25mg E3D or E3.5D is a good place to start. 6.25 ED is also good tho but you might want to increase it a bit.

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>>41192714
Thanks. Is the large dose usually timed a few hours before the pin time in your examples?

Makes sense why that would be good - is the idea that you lower your aromatase levels just as your test levels peak and then as it tapers down your aromatase levels will recover but have less test to work on?

I was working with the assumption that there's a variable factor in the esterases that work on test E and their expression could lead to a constant release (contrary to the steroidcalc taper model that everyone else uses), hence the ED dosing.

>>41192466
>>41192562
>>41192690
She's been losing her shit over me. Sleeps and masturbates in my clothes. Dropped her fuckbuddy for me. She got weird yesterday but w/e.

I'll get work done on my sleeve too.

>>41192950
>tfw my ex was perfect and i miss her
>tfw new fwb is too clingy
>tfw need to get on tinder so i can find a new bish

I'm mid cycle now and I've started finishing my hour long workouts in like 45 min. Normally I'd just add more exercises but my strength is pretty much non existent by the time I'm done.

Basically is it worth it to add more exercises at the end of my workout if I can only lift weights half as heavy as I could at the beginning?

>>41193258
depends on the workout, 45 is short, but could maybe be enough.