Should i do nofap/noporn? what are the benefits of each, if any?

>>41178297
Nofap brings power and murderous rage.

Noporn is useless.

NoFap is a meme, there's nothing wrong with masturbation unless you're doing it many times a day in which case you should seek professional help, not 4chan.

NoPorn, on the other hand, is very good for you, as getting used to pornographic stimulation too frequently can lead you to erecile dysfunction and unrealistic expectations of sex and female bodies.

only porn is the problem

>>41178297
They are both useful.

>noporn: restricts your ability to view girly parts, gives you more motivation to get with irl women and see their girly parts. Boosts sex drive.

>nofap: Boosts sensitivity and sex drive. Makes you turned on by a girl in a low top and makes you want to pursue her and impregnate the fuck out of her (don't do this part).

Stop jerking it, start having sex instead. Sex should be your only form of penis-related pleasure as was intended by nature.

Ignore retarded posts like this >>41178376, everyone.

This is clearly someone that doesn't understand jack shit of what's he's talking about. Even married men masturbate once in a while and it's completely normal. People who have sex regularly still masturbate too, and even animals masturbate.
Believing in idiots like this will get you ED.

The real question is what are the BENEFITS of watching porn and fapping and the answer to that is zero

Knowing that, it's easy to find detriments to either activity therefore the logical health-conscious man will abstain from both

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>>41178316
>Noporn is useless.
porn is a jewish invention that numbs the male mind
fappin is totally natural

>>41178443
Fapping isn't natural retard

>>41178397

>using modern marriage structure as an example of normalcy

wew led

3/10 for the effort

>>41178333
I have seen countless people, myself included, feel more energized and be much more confident while doing nofap, in addition to many other individualized benefits
I have never seen or heard anyone, again myself included, state any of such benefits while on noporn.

I will not argue about whether or not either of them are placebo, but if feels like people who bash nofap only do it because they are annoyed by people being overly enthusiastic about it, not because it is actually useless or something. I mean a huge amount of people love the benefits of nofap, whether or not it is placebo. It is not very sensible to discard the whole thing because it is not as cool as people make it be

>>41178297
Just try it for a week or two and see

i completed 3 months nofap

i didn't get the confidence lift and mental clarity that a lot of people claim to get. i still had issues when hooking up, only more hysterically, now i just came a lot quicker.

i agree with the others that say that porn is more of the problem, due to the overstimulation. if you masturbate periodically (like 1 or 2 times a week, everyone is different) with no visual stimulation, i don't think there is any harm in it.

I've done both, and now I jack off to porn near daily.

The only difference I feel is that on nofap I'm horny all the fucking time, and I consider fucking fatties. There are no autism curing super powers, your standards are lowered a bit.

>>41178297

They're both memes that's virgins use as an excuse for why they're not getting laid

>>41178510
>>41178491
>>41178487
Porn lobby out in full force today

Try internet detox for a month. Three months when you've reached 30 days. If you reach 90 days it will be easy to adapt as a lifestyle. Oh, and no TV.

This is the final redpill. It will be the hardest thing you will ever do, but this is the steroids of mental/social/career gains.

But you are probably a faggot anyways and will never even try. Just to let you know.

>>41178297
Just try it and see what it does for you. Overfapping and porn ruined muh dick and aspects of my life so cutting back to once a week fapping has done wonders for me.

>starting to get erections again
>FAR less hours consumed hunting for porn/edging
>mood more stabilized
>energy to do things throughout the day
>getting a little more confident with women

Ignore retarded posts like this >>41178397, everyone

This is clearly someone who doesn't understand jack shit about what he's talking about.

Masturbation is artificial stimulation. Think of it this way: What evolutionary use is there to masturbation? None. There are no benefits that masturbation can provide that sex wouldn't also provide in greater amounts along with boosted confidence.

Will this give you ED? Fuck no. Why would slamming pussy get you ED? Does that make any sense? No it doesn't. Give it a try, A REAL TRY, and start having sex instead of masturbating.

>>41178620

What evolutionary benefit is there to shitposting on a Mongolian kite making forum?

Yet here you are.

>>41178333
Wrong. Porn only fucks you up if you are an addict who can only get off to degenerate stuff, looking at naked women is fine and important to staying sane and healthy.

How many times a day is the same question gonna be fucking asked?

>>41178333
Masturbation is not wrong at all, but that doesnt mean abstaining from it is useless. Nofap causes major life changes (both negative and positive).

Eating is also not wrong, but fasting can be beneficial sometimes.

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>>41178641
This board is a forum for public discussion. Forums are an excellent way to communicate ideas and information to other humans. It allows me to tell you what you can do to improve a particular area of your life and it allows you to do the same.

So yes, there is an evolutionary advantage to using this website. The sharing of a collective pool of experience and knowledge for the betterment of all of us. It's a beautiful world out there.

>>41178456
Literally the only thing wrong with nofap is that reddit likes it.

>>41178449
>Yes it is, brainjob

>>41178741
You're a fuckin tard there are no negatives to not fapping

>>41178297
What should I do now that I dont have a gf anymore?
I dont want to last a minute next time I fuck nor not be able to get it up

I've been fapping to porn since i was 10 (now 20) and the quick porn faps have lead me to premature ejaculation. I hooked up with a girl and came 3 times in one night without even getting my dick in. It fucking sucks. I'm gonna start no porn now and fap for at least 15 minutes every time without using my imagination.

I don't see the point in nofap tho, it just makes me more horny.

>>41178924
Yeah you do that *rolls eyes*

>>41178952
What do you think I should do with my dick?

>>41178952
Got anything better to suggest?

>>41178982
Stop abusing it like a dumb shit
>>41178993
Yeah, stop jacking off

>>41178297
Literally nothing besides a placebo effect unless you are whacking it like 5 times a day

>>41179002
how the fuck does not jacking off help against PE? If I don't fap for a week I can cum in 10 seconds and want to fuck fatties.

>>41179019
Boy, are you retarded?

>>41178786
Jesus christ you're stupid, the drawbacks are apparent to anyone with a brain in 24 hours

Im on day 70 and its made me become a short tempered asshole and fucked up my relationship with my family

>>41179019
>If I don't fap for a week I can cum in 10 seconds and want to fuck fatties.

Have you considered that your want to fuck fatties is your true nature and you cum fast because you're finally getting what you truly want?

>>41179038
great arguments my dude

even the dedicated nofap autists on nofap forums say that it doesn't do shit against PE.

>>41179039
That has nothing to do with not jacking off, you fucking idiot

>>41179052
Do you think I give a shit if you ever fix your dick or any of your mental problems? No. Either stop jacking off or don't, kid

>>41179066
lmao what the fuck are you even talking about

>>41179043
fatties just become acceptable but it makes me want to fuck hot girls even more so thats a no dude

>>41179126
Take your shit to your facebook status update. You're clearly not accustomed to posting somewhere with a 2-way interaction

>>41179057
>the massive, unprecedented negative life change that came immediately with nofap has nothing to do with nofap

>>41179156
youre the one whose only advice is "stop jacking off kid" and im the one who can't interact properly

>>41179203
Yeah your own personal mental illness is in no way an indicator of nofap having negative side effects. I'm sure child molesters will say they have negative side effects from not raping kids, doesn't mean not raping kids is what caused it. Fucking dumb cunt

>>41179243
Not that guy, but this is 4chan, grow some thicker skin and stop posting low quality comments and responding to other people like you have aspergers.

>>41179243
You should stop jacking off. Either do it or don't and live with the consequences it's that simple

>>41179278
Delusion: the comment

Seriously man, like everyone ive known who has gone even a few days without masturbating told me it made them super irritable and hard to be around

>>41179300
Now I know you're just lying

>>41179311
Now I know you're from reddit. Bazinga, am I right guys?

>>41179364
Nice meme you shitposted and everything just like a big boy

>>41178605
Did you try it and what was the effect exactly?

>>41179373
You failed to present any form of argument whatsoever like a proud r/nofap user, kindly slit your own wrists.

>>41179408
Yeah, behave like a retard 4 posts in a row then expect serious big boy arguments. You can't be out of your teens

>>41179279
i've been here for a long time. i'm just not gonna take someone's unargumented bullshit.

>>41179447
I bet you think cardio kills gains too. Idiot

>>41179461
Yes, it does. Stop doing cardio, kid.

>>41179511
Stop posting

>>41179511
what the fuck did you just say about me

>>41179522
no thanks famalam

I masturbate every night just to spite nofap faggots.

>>41178297
I know what yah mean. In least you don't have a stupid situation to back it up. My video teachers acts like I'm very slow. I was late the first day sophomore year and I had no idea where I was going. Instead of a normal person and asking someone I first argued with a teacher for 30 minutes just repeating over and over that I had no idea where I was going(pretty sure it was an AP one too; and I had an audience of AP students that I knew) she got exasperated with me and said 'Do you want me to walk you?' and I ran the other way. My history teacher stopping to ask if I was okay. In stressful situations I act like a total moron okay? So I went to another building and went up the stairs(BTW the video room is on the first floor) and somehow ended up in the senior hallway and asked annooother teacher for help. A senior walked me to the class and I was on the other side of the school. Right across from my English class. Just for me to walk in and totally loose it. I think I had a panic attack right there in the classroom. You see I walked in 20 minutes late with a senior holding the door open for me and everyone staring at me like I was putting on a show. The problem? There was no seats left. I finally made it to the teacher's desk and he asked if I was okay and if I was 'exposed' to be in this class. I told him 'IDK' over and over. Than he said 'well just take any seat. I felt like yelling: What seat?!!!!???? So I paced some and than just sat in front of him because A) I was exhausted... and B.) I just wanted to be left alone. Soo than he walks me to a seat separated from everyone else but has a computer. I must of looked completely out of it and total panic mode because every five seconds in when he was introducing the class to the material we would be doing and whatnot he would be coming over towards me and asking if I was okay. I even have panic attacks.I'm fine with being the quiet, shy random weirdo. Okay... Maybe not so much. xP

>>41179548
You keep that up and I'll have my dick in your ass.
I won't have to worry about fapping when I'm getting off in your colon.

I just do not understand, most of the time I fap 3 times a day, it is not in the way "ehhh, got bored, let's fap" more like an urge to unleash sexual drive.

Longest break were 2 days a month ago or so

>>41179576
Yeah! Yeah! I drink them! I slurp them! I swallow them whole It makes daddy happy so it's my only goal... Harder daddy! Harder daddy! 1 cummy, 2 cummy, 3 cummy, 4 I'm daddy's princess but I'm also a whore! He makes me feel squishy!He makes me feel good! He makes me feel everything a little should!~

i-i mean f-fuck off im not gay

>>41179638
Yeah, I'm your daddy. I got a nice hard dick for you.
You down for a reacharound while I'm fucking you or is that considered fapping?

>>41179441
>implying

>>41179567
That's a pretty abstract copypasta

>>41179610
how old are you

>>41178297
i did nofap for a month and got a gf, im autistic so yea do nofap and no porn u fuckin loony

i did extremefap for a month and got a gf, im autistic so yea do extremefap and continuous porn u fuckin loony

i did porn for a month and got a gf, im autistic so yea just star in porn u fuckin loony

>>41179925
21, also I feel like if I did nofap I would actually do something to get laid with chicks in my uni group

>>41179399
Obviously jack shit because that retard is posting here right now

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>>41178376
have GF
haven't had sex in 3 weeks
I bust a nut on the toilet every night before bed

>>41180020
Not sure 21 is old enough, for me around late 23 i really got bored and burnt out of fapping, its shit because you dont feel fun doing it but you feel sexually frustrated if you dont do it.

Its almost like your body is begging you to get laid

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>>41178297

first: noporn other than POV and JOI

second: noporn

third: reduce fapping to maximum 1x/week

if you do this, you will be horny enough that you won't need porn and you can just fap to /s/ or your imagination or something

fourth: reduce fapping to 1-2x/month

fifth: fuck the women that magically appear in your life because you're no longer distracted by the ass-gaping fake-titted jew + enjoy imptoved wakefulness, concentration, and gains at the gym.

a note: I wouldn't push nofap much lower than 1x/3 weeks. After this point you get bizarre sex dreams and cream ur pyjamas frequentlt.By this point you shouldn't be further than a month or two away from actually having sex though, so it's not a big deal.

>>41180165

yeah man I loved fapping until I was around 18. Would never have reduced it. Now I'm 22 and there seems to be no point though. And pornhub just makes me depressed. I have to suspend my disbelief really hard. If I go 2-3 weeks without fapping, a good imagination-fap is worthwhile though.

>>41180255
>fourth: reduce fapping to 1-2x/month
Enjoy your ED and weak cum and orgasms

>>41180487
>Enjoy your ED and weak cum and orgasms

ED from reducing fapping? Are you retarded?

If you fap less than 1x/week you have a constant boner. Morning boner won't go away for like 15 minutes.

>>41178924
It helped me, not drastically but i'm able to fuck
Every time when i fapped i did it in like 20 seconds and that lead to PE, so not fapping kinda helped a bit