how hard can I choke a dyel?

Seeing as you are most likely DYEL yourself, as hard as you want.

Tell me about the rabbits George.

>>41123192
That's what I'm afraid of.

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>>41123168
The secret is to squeeze until there is resistance. Focus on the front "corners" of the neck with your thumbs. Also watch for color change. A little reds okay but dont go to far, you can fuck up dental nerves strangely enough

> Look at me I have sex!

Nobody here is impressed, guy.

>>41123393
How red is too red? Is it ok if she cries?

And dental nerves? Can I solve her sensitive teeth problem by choking her?

>>41123168
when she's gagging involuntarily, loosen up. i feel like choking from behind is safer

>>41123460
She's explicitly stated she likes it when I choke her to the point of gagging. Do I ignore her fetish for her safety?

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Learn your limits

>Choking
Why do they like this? Is it just the sluts?

>>41123499
She's a slut but she's my slut. Most loyal girl I know. She even cooks every day.

>asian gf master race

>>41123432
Its most likely textbook bro science but a friend of mine lost feeling in two teeth when I choked him out. Might be related


And just go with what feels natural. Youll get it, the range is pretty wide before real damage starts. It also helps to think of that bitch that took your heart out, showed it to you then stomped on it.

>>41123527
Like, lost feeling completely!?!

I'll definitely ask my dentist and gp about it. I don't want to hurt her. It's hard enough keeping up with her masochism.

What if I've never been hurt like that? Is there another way to make it easier to hurt her?

>>41123520
My asian gf loves cooking, cleaning, and taking it like a dirty whore, as well. My advice would be to find some way to protect yourself should shit go wrong. Maybe something in writing? Last thing you want is a murder wrap because your gf can't say her safe word in time or at all because you crushed her larynx.

>>41123558
That's a good idea. I'll do that.

Do I need to get that written up by a lawyer?

I just had a really good idea maybe.

I can choke her harder if her neck is more muscular, right?

That could be just the right motivation to keep her at the gym!

How do I pitch something like that and am I onto something?

>>41123168
I've never been with a girl into chokingthat much but I always thought it was best to constrict the arteries and veins in the neck rather than to try to crush the windpipe. Have I been wrong this whole time?

>>41123614
I'm more worried about rough handling with the collar in regards to breaking her neck. That thing is made for pit bulls, so it's way sturdier than her spine.

>>41123652
How is she supposed to say the safe word while she's being choked with that? Sounds counterintuitive

>>41123704
Safeword is a tap sequence.

>>41123614
You're correct, that's the right way to choke. You want them buzzing, not suffocating.

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>tfw ex fwb dumped me because I didn't want to choke her, spit on her, anal, and perform shibari
>tfw even if I wanted to I'd never done any of that before
>tfw was just happy for the mutual body contact and snuggling
>tfw mea culpa for being kv until 26
>tfw had one chance to try/learn this stuff with a girl who wanted it
>tfw once she realised I didn't know what I was doing and still learning she got a bf

Next chick I'm just going to throw my belt around her neck and see what happens. I've already select a lake if shit goes wrong.

Never confess you're trying to learn bros. They want to be completely submissive, but only to an aplha who knows what they're doing so they feel safe.

>>41123192
right in the childhood

>>41123869
>perform shibari
i can tell from the context i don't want to google that

>>41123192
lmfao

>>41123168
Focus on the sides of the neck, constrict blood flow, never air. Like a previous anon said, you want them buzzing. I'll look around the net a little for you

>>41123869
in my experience belt around the neck isn't too great for her. it'll seem good for like two seconds to her then she'll complain. i'm guessing because it's a more even squeeze and can get painful quickly. unless she a real freak

I love choking gf and she should be able to motion to you when it's too much.

>>41123587
nah bro just write some shit yourself im sure it will be fine if you accidentally choke her to death

>>41123168
This may help

http://dominantguide.com/176/take-your-breath-away-basics-of-breath-play/

>>41123192
Kek

>>41123168
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dangerandplay.com/2011/12/26/how-to-choke-a-woman/amp/

A little further down in the article gives more specifics

>>41123652
If you're most worried about the choke collar, then don't use it. Put it on her every now and then, have her wear it as an accessory around the house etc. Get yourself comfy with it and begin to learn by testing different strengths.

>>41123869
Her loss for not wanting to stick around and teach you. Though two out of four of those is quite manageable and easy to do without much teaching, unless you mean she's going to fuck you in the ass. Should've just fucked her in the ass to keep her around long enough to learn how to tie some japanese knots.

>>41123432
>Is it ok if she cries?
depends on the girl, most of them both want it, and don't want it so be careful.

>How red is too red?
beet red is too red ;). Use your judgement based on how she takes it.

its important to remember that most girls don't like being choked, they like the idea of being used. a firm non-harmful grip can do just fine in most cases.

>>41123192
Kekaroni pizza

>>41123499
>Why do they like this?
its not that easy. pretty much every girl liked it for a different reason. mostly they just like being used/abused in general. they like feeling helpless.

>Is it just the sluts?
no, far from it. ^__^

>>41123981
>>41124024
Fuck that first one is scary. She likes being choked from the front on her larynx though. I think she knows it's dangerous because she often will flip over and pull my hand down hard onto the back of her neck, to the point where she's choking herself with her neck against a pillow.

>>41124132
She says the only collar she'll wear out is one made by my hands. Given that, how red is too red?

And she says she likes crying, but not puking, which is primarily why she's so bad at getting face fucked despite her thinking it's insanely hot.

>>41124091
That's good advice. She usually let's me know what she liked vs didn't like after sex.

>>41124103
>Her loss for not wanting to stick around and teach you.
Thanks man.
At 28 I'm only just really starting to try to see what I like and what I don't, but I'm still struggling to overcome the cognitive-dissonance of "Don't hurt people ESPECIALLY girls" whilst being confronted with the above within forty minutes of meeting them :(

I guess all I ever really wanted was someone to hold close to me on a Winter's night.

But it's 2017 now.

Anyone Anons have some quick tips? I'm trying to do some reading whilst I agonisingly search for women who a) Are up to my standard, and b) Are interested in the above and won't file false allegations just because I couldn't get hard again.

>>41123920
>perform shibari

shibari is japanese rope bondage. there are other terms for it, but shibari usually specifically pertains to rope bondage as an art form.

kinbaku is a more general term for it, with more sexual connotations

semenawa is rope bondage which specifically pertains to rope bondage used in a pleasure/pain way, or rope bondage that is purposefully uncomfortable.

hojojutsu is a form of martial arts where rope is used to restrain someone. modern japanese rope bondage is derived from this.

>>41123168
You are not going to break her neck and this is a retarded humble brag thread. Stop if she passes out, I doubt losing a few brain cells will effect her retail career.

But for the fuck of it look how much force it takes at extreme angles to break a rabbits neck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2MwgnYIIn8

>>41123520
Fuck yeah bro. Latina gf. Cooks, cleans, anal when she's on her period, super active so she'll never get fat. I've had several white girls shit on me hard for dating brown though. It's like /pol/ leaked out.

>>41124227
Is it that hard to break a rabbits neck?

Am I actually worried over nothing?

Could I just toss her by the neck handle?

You may already know this but choking is really bad. The subject can suddenly have a massive heart attack. Had a read around and there are no safe ways to actually choke safely.
Highly recommend you read this article: http://www.evilmonk.org/a/breath.cfm

>>41124178

the colour of her face isn't a good indicator of if she is still ok.

a quick rundown for you.
she'll know if she's losing consciousness (if she's experienced), for most that means she's done. so with that in mind...

-have a safeword, AND safe signal
-look her in the eyes, ive been told its hot, and you can watch her pupils, they will give you a good indication if she is feeling lightheaded they will suddenly dilate.
-faces get more red from slapping than from choking -if you haven't slapped her (I'd recommend it myself) and she's completely flush (not just in the cheeks) then back off

backing off (without ruining the mood)
-golden rule: move her
-throw her onto a bed or whatever
-ask her shit, keep up the abuse, its not as easy when youre choking her.

>>41124247
Dude, yes. my girl loves being throws around with my hand on her neck, straight tension and compression is childs play mate. avoid twisting

throw her around like a ragdoll.

>>41124214
I've got new stuff to learn! Yay!

>>41124386
Okay.

>>41124368
>>41124334
Man I knew you guys would know what's up.

Thank you guys so much. I love her but man just the thought of injuring her makes me sad. Her fetishes honestly scare me, esp because this stuff that by all means hurts is kind of exciting to be honest. To me. And the stronger I get, the easier it is to hurt her but the harder it is to moderate myself.

>>41124214
And this is expected knowledge that a 26 year old dude is meant to know?

Women are fucked senpai.

Just remember dudes, when women get really in to it their brain basically switches off, ergo why they can't formulate words properly and have reduced motor function.

>Imagine if you knew that your body's defence mechanism to rape was to just shut down

>>41123168
First off
>he can't control his power
>she's the dyel
Yeah sure dude
Put more pressure on the sides of the neck than the middle.

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You see, this >>41124799 is the kind of Men's Health issues that get swept under the rug or demonised.
>I love her but man just the thought of injuring her makes me sad.
As it should. As it should for and to most people.
>Her fetishes honestly scare me,
Why? We need to ask why. Social conditioning from childhood? Legality? Why do men in 2017 have to literally be afraid to have sex?
>esp because this stuff that by all means hurts is kind of exciting to be honest.
A natural, some would say healthy primal, desire. But guess what that makes you? A misogynistic, patriarchal shitlord. It doesn't matter that you obviously know that just because people might occasional act a certain way in a compartmentalised context it doesn't mean they want to be treated day-to-day as such. Except when they do. Your feelings, your thoughts and desires, your needs are WRONG, IMMORAL, how dare you even assume someone might be in to it!
>And the stronger I get, the easier it is to hurt her but the harder it is to moderate myself.
And this is where you will need to tread the most carefully unless you want to be kicked out of university, lose your job, become a social pariah, or go to prison. Audio record every time you fuck. Get positive consent e.g. "You like that?", "Yeah...", "Do you want to fuck me?", "Yeah...", "What do you say?", "Yeah I want to fuck you..."
Funny thing is though that even that's not even enough if alcohol/drugs are involved (Under the Influence = Altered Frame of Mind = Can't Consent).
Leave bruises on her from ANY of the shit these other Anons are, safely and with common sense, recommending? The onus is on YOU to prove that you DIDN'T do it against her will. After all, you're a pretty big guy.

4chan is an echo chamber, obviously this sort of shit doesn't happen day to day, but for those of us to whom it has happened on more than one occasion, and after only just getting out of it by the skin of your teeth, it makes dumbshit MGTOW/Herbivore Men almost a logical idea.

There is some serious bullshit in this thread. I've practiced and studied judo and jiu-jitsu, both of which have safe ways to learn effective ways to choke the fuck out of someone.
For the love of Christ do not do windpipe chokes. They can do permanent damage and leave marks.
Blood chokes on the other hand, will not leave marks, and instead of a safe word or some bullshit like that, just have her hold a steel ball in her hand. If she lets go of it, stop. Someone can't give the safe word or tap if they are unconscious.
Also, my pet peeve in porn is someone that doesn't know how to choke. A proper choke for seven seconds, and they are out cold. Longer than that and here comes the brane damage.

>>41125488
That's a good idea.

The steel ball. I've already been doing blood chokes cause I refuse to choke her from the straight front.

>>41125488
>and here comes the brane damage.
If I took off your choke would you die?