>be depressed >"bro work out!" >"just

Find God.

kys

>>41058078
Go to a legit therapist

Depression in men is caused my not enough winning.

Your aren't smashing enough muff. You aren't owning your career. You aren't popular. Your life isn't exciting.

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>he thinks there's a cure to depression other than killing yourself

>>41058078
Is that a fucking 8 lb dumbbell? wtf what a weird increment. All the gyms Ive been to go up by 5's and in some cases 2.5's.

Psychiatrist that will prescribe drugs for you.
There's really no other way if it's real depression.

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Just smile bro.
Fake it til ya make it.

>>41058078
Exercise and activity is a way to manage depression. It's not a one and done deal that permanently cures it.

It's how your life is and it's something you're going to have to deal with for the rest of your life friend. Learn to live with it, through the highs and the lows.

Exercise..it's there to help prevent and manage the lows that define our lives. Sorry if some asshole made you think it would be an instant cure all forever and ever.

>>41058100
>KG

>>41058100

There is a place outside of America where they use KG, you monkey

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>>41058078
Sort yourself out.

>>41058078
cardio

>>41058116
>>41058117
Aw shit, didn't notice that. Sorry mates. Me two dum to noetis

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>>41058092

> depression doesn't exist in successful people

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>>41058120
You just stole post, buddy.

Try 1 hour of cardio and see how you feel.
also >>41058112

>>41058078
depends on what the cause of your depression is. occupying your mind will help to some degree but unless you find the cause and fix it you will never get rid of it

A lot of Elliot Hulse's stuff helped me with my depression

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJQ6eXz_zZs

>>41058078
You will never make it, because you are nothing but a little cucked bitch

KYS

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>>41058112
This. Lifting is just a physical analogy for dealing with your emotional problems. The weight on the bar is the crushing feelings of sadness and despair, boredom and self-hate. It's up to you to be able to push that weight off of you when it comes crashing down on top of you. And when the weight is too much and you get pinned under the bar you either have to struggle and feel embarrassed as you do the roll of shame or call out for help from others.

The problem today is that, just like lifting, you grow emotionally strong by starting with light weight and moving up; but I feel as though most of us avoided the heavy feels for most of our early life and stuck with the light stuff; then something happened. You had no choice but to try to lift that 2 pl8 feel and you got stuck under the bar. But life isn't like the gym, bars kept piling up and because you were pinned the weight just kept getting stronger and stronger. And you were either too afraid or embarrassed to call for help, which happens to a lot of introverts, or nobody came along strong enough to help you lift the weight. But it's not over. Emotions aren't like a bar, the weight isn't pinned to one thing and you can take off little by little every day, every moment. So start taking off small weights and work up, struggle till you get it all off. You've been pinned under so much for so long and you're not dead, that's evidence in it's self you can still make it.

>>41058216

>im 12 btw

>>41058078
zach? just lift bro

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>>41058078
Lifting doesn't just cure you of depression, retard. You need to put in a little effort in other areas

Firstly, by asking yourself these questions.

If you are in college, do you understand 90% of the courses you can choose are useless? If so, are you enjoying the course you chose and find it meaningful?

Do you have a job that you find fulfilling?

Masturbating every day at a unhealthy rate?

Do you have a healthy relationship with your parents, grandparents and other extended family members?

Is your sleeping orderly?

If you use recreational drugs, are you becoming reliant on them?

Ask yourself these questions and think for a second how much your current mode of being is getting on with itself.

Secondly, check out some of Jordan Peterson's lectures. The man knows his way around the brain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c3m0tt5KcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLp7vWB0TeY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwUJHNPMUyU


Lastly, Read.

You're supposed to workout synchronically with your mind if you want to become an uburmench. Start with pic related.

You might be wondering why I'm giving you this advice, it's because I was, and am still trying to champion, like you right now. Giving this advice is both theraputic for me and helpful for you. I know this because it's helped me when I was on the brink.

>>41058078
You don't look bad if this makes you feel any better.

>>41058120
It sucks that this guy is on the shitlist over gender pronouns.
His self-help stuff and most of his videos completely unrelated to the sociopolitical shitstorm right now are fucking amazing and it's great he's getting new levels of exposure.

>>41058408
It's actually a good thing because it propelled him into the spot light. His lectures are like 90-10 men to women, which is good because a lot of men who were previously lost have someone who is speaking to them directly while teaching them how to be a man, not demonizing them.

The SJW's gave him this chance and i myself am thankful to have learned of him.

>>41058078
read a lot of shit /lit/ points you to!

>>41058078
Go to the doctor, ask for a medical opinion
Go to a therapist, try CBT.
Improve your diet, eat veg veg and more veg. Cut out the caffeine, cigarettes and alcohol.
Socialise more, speak to people.

>>41058463
Unfortunately you can't show his videos to certain people that really need his advice right now because he's known as "that transphobic bigot professor" which we know is horse shit but it shows just how much sjws want men to suffer and will shut down any resource that seems to actually be helping (see how much the "MRA" bogeyman has been memed into fedora neckbeard image)

>>41058078
go outside more. I think being inside 100% of the time really fucks with your brain for some reason. Also stop eating anything with refined sugar, or just junk food in general.

>>41058546
being on 4chan fucks with your mind way more than being indoors

>>41058078

Find yourself anon. Find the things that make you depressed and try to solve them. If you can't just try to stay away.

Read the Stoics. It really helped me being a more balanced individual.

>>41058078
I'd start with getting rid of that lame ass haircut lmao

>>41058083
>/thread or start drinking

OP you dumb motherfucker. Did you do any research before you came over here complaining?

Is your diet clean, no processed bullshit?

Start drinking kale shakes every morning.

Stop jerking off.

Look into meditation and maybe pot if that's your thing (it's definitely mine)

Lifting is just one pillar of a stable mind. You have to get the rest of your health together.

>>41058078
>he doesn't get autistic rage that is only preventable by SSRIs or working out and being exhausted
you're not depressed you're a faggot

>>41058648
>Kale shakes
have fun with your messed up thyroid bro

>>41058222
trips of truth. great post breh

>>41058222
so how can i get help if i'm one of those people? i never open to anyone because i'm ashamed of what i became so just keep it all inside

>>41058167
Quess what. Being successful doesn't mean you are doing well socially, physically or materially or w/e.

Let's say if you are super talented singer with millions of fans and you are only surrounded by leeches. Then you will sooner or later realise that you don't have any people who really care about you. And that is what feelsbadman.

>>41058100
>US
>education

pardon me for being biased.

>>41058888

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Of all form of physical exercise, cycling lifts my mood the most. There is something about pedaling relentlessly for many hours through glorious landscape that no lifting under artificial light can provide.

>>41058899
>did 90 km run through the country
>listen to music
>forget about all problems for 3 hours
>come back
>the moment i enter house start to feel like shit again

>>41058936
buy a new house

>>41058936
That sucks. After a ride, my spirits are up at least to the end of the day.

>>41058531
True. And funnily enough the people that hate him the most need his advice the most too. The people screaming at his lectures sound like who he is usually describing.

>>41058936
Cardio kills mental gains

>>41058078
Earthing. Magnet therapy (neodymium magnets, north side (important)), Sungazing.

Zoloft <- instant relief until you might be able to stand on your own two feet.

Keep in mind that literally everything these days is poison and its not your fault. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od3NE0y3LkQ

>>41058083
I am of the godliest creatures on earth. Still need zoloft. If God would not save his son from crucifixion while he was in the body, why would he save his other sons from depression while they are still in the body.

>>41059030
You dont understand anything and this will be your demise false god. The crucifixion was necessary, he had to die so he could beat death. By that the human race could reenter paradise and could be redeemed

>>41059065
We'll see, creature. September 23rd, 2017

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>>41059072

>>41058648
>Is your diet clean, no processed bullshit?

There are people with shit diets who aren't depressed, this is a fucking meme

>>41059567
There are more factors than what you're eating to determine it. Environment, genetics, etc. So of course someone could eat like shit and not be depressed, but there are other variables to consider.
The analogy is that your genetics, environment, any other random factor is what loads the gun but your actions are what pulls the trigger. In this case the action is eating garbage processed food.

>>41058222
pretty good analogy, thanks brah

>>41058078
Become a 6'3" insecure, but outwardly appearing chad by getting to 235lbs and 12% BF with lots of sterons and full-body everyday training then become mentally addicted to 60mg of Dextrometh or D-amph and Benzos.

At least that's me; But I was going nowhere being 320lbs, unshaven and constantly the underog; Now at least nearly everyone treats me with respect.

>>41059030
why would he want to save them in the first place

you need to die
but you also need to be reborn

kill yourself, go where you least want to go, do what you least want to do and confront death
you know exactly what those things are, you're avoiding them like hell because you're scared of being judged by the lurking demons
then emerge from your carcass as a newly born man, changed but strong

>>41059656
No. If one easy thing doesn't fix it, then forget it. I'll just be sad forever.

eat healthy

>>41058936
>the moment i enter house start to feel like shit again
>>41058945
>buy a new house
you might have a shit house. not to get too crazy, but i lived in asia and feng shui is believable to an extent.
different spaces have different energy.
maybe your house has bad energy.

>>41058936
When I come back from a ride I'm too physically exhausted to think about how I feel. My thought process goes something like EAT DRINK SHOWER EAT THIGHS BURN EAT CARBS EAT FAP

>>41058936
Maybe there's mold somewhere hidden growing in your house. Mold will fuck you up bro

>>41058078
got to the gym every single day for more than 2 hours. You will never ever feel depressed again - unless you stop.

>>41058648

>no processed bullshit
>drink kale
>pot is definitely my thing

Its a microcosm of all things retarded.

>>41058078
Fuck my ass no homo

>>41058078
Take antidepressants.

>>41058078
Cold showers standing up.

Wake up at the same time every day of the leap

Wake up with the sunlight

Take your vitamins and eat healthy.

Socialize or R9K whatever to vent.

Those will all objectively help. Its how the body is hardwired. If it doesnt, chances are you aren't "depressed" as much as you are bored/sad.

>>41059966
repurpose the last 2 words of your post into my response

>>41058078
OP, you can't "get rid of depression".

It's like death or boredom, it's a part of life that happens and you will have to carry that until you can move onto something else. Everyone will tell you shit like try books, god, drugs, etc. I will say consider them all, as long as it's something beyond the scope of "working out".

>>41058078
Find something that gives you purpose and get laid regularly, otherwise you'll remain this sad sack for the rest of your already brief existence.

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>>41058078
Treatment-resistant depression is a bitch to say the least.

I've tried working out, volunteering, meditating, reading, anti-depressants galore, both one-on-one and group therapy, even ECT. The existential angst, apathy, and anhedonia still cling to me like ticks, slowly draining my spirit away.

All I can say is Major Depressive Disorder is not something you can simply "get rid of"; you have to find a way to manage it. Otherwise, becoming an hero will seem like the only way to escape.

>>41060042

>get laid regularly

Fuck you. I get what you're saying and shit, but still. Fuck you for acting like that shit just comes to everyone.

>>41058078
>feel depressed
>start working out and dieting better (skelefag)
>feel great about taking pride in my body for 3-4 months
>good feeling goes away and depression comes back, but now I know if I stop working out it'll get worse than ever
>tfw the heaviest lifts we do aren't in the weights

Most people say smoking weed is for degenerates, but it's the only escape from depression for me.
I lift l, i do my cardio, eat healthy, have a job as a programmer, tried antidepressants, a shitton of therapy, honestly there is nothing that will change this shit so i dont fucking care, every time it's weekend i'll smoke myself into oblivion, it's the only drug that keeps me going and gives me motivation like nothing else, and it seems like its working out for me pretty well.

Get an hpa and hormone panel done.
If normal, start CBT.
If needed, add an SSRI.
If you have an immediate reaction (within a few hours) you may have a bipolar disorder. If so, consider options from there.

Boom, Neurobro once again summarizes western mental medicine for you.

>>41058222
This is beautiful anon.

>>41060205
if there are hormone tests why do doctors give out SSRIs and SNRIs without testing first?

>>41060204
I wish I knew how or where to acquire drugs like that. I've always wanted to at least try weed or psilocybin mushrooms to see if they help, even just a little.

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Ride a motorcycle, seriously.

It's the best antidepressant around and it's bad ass if you manage to pull it off (matching bike/gear).

It's also ridiculously fast

>>41058092
>>>/r9k/

I broke up with my gf 3 weeks ago, still love her but she was a pain in the ass, she would get mad or sad because of stupid shit reasons, lifting makes me feel somewhat better,still miss her, but I know the pain will eventually go away.

>>41060289
Honest answer? Most people are drug seeking and it's easier/quicker . Hormones can cause any sort of symptoms related to mental illness. The DSM even states anything explained by biological illness can't be a mental illness.

seriously Jordan Peterson has some very, very great advice. That's all it is tho - advice. It takes some work in order to change your state of mind.

I was in a similar situation. There were a lot of things wrong with my life ( bad body, living paycheck to paycheck, long distance with my girl). And I tried to solve all of those problems. In 2 times I had arrived to the conclusion that solving them still didn't change anything. so what I did is I evaluated my past mistakes that I was too scared to look at and actually acknowledge. Dropping out of uni was a huge one for me. It lead me to the realization that even tho I am making decent money, it's in dead-end job and my depression stemmed from the fact that I had basically lost my professional security and left behind ambiguous ideas of what future might hold.
so I got a job in a field that I loved, and a job that allowed me to grow and learn and I felt better the same fucking day.

I guess, what I'm trying to say is that all that ''gay shit'' and looking deep withing actually works and you should try to identify these issues and do something about it.

>>41058078
Ride it out man and try to do as much positive and productive crap you can do. Lifting doesn't cure depression but it lessens it. You still feel useless and like shit but less and atleast you are doing one positive thing.
You should also get a legit therapist like the other anons said. The longer you are depressed the more chance you have to become depressed later in life or to become chronically depressed.
My depression lasted for almost 3 years, I eveb tried killing myself. Then a year ago out of nowhere life started getting easier and I started doing more shit, I stopped being anxious and my depression just disappeared. There was no trigger whatsoever, it just happened.
Healing from real depression is a mental and physical battle. Just like any other diseases it takes time to heal but you can nurture yourself to lessen the symptoms and fasten your recovery.
Godspeed anon.

>>41058078
cardio will left depression, weights on their own won't.

>>41058120

Reminder to OP that Peterson's future authoring program is available free this week to channers, coupon code is PEPE. It has been a tremendous help to me and I recommend it highly. You need to know where you're going so you can start taking steps to get there.

good nutrition, cardio, and psychedelics worked for me

>>41058078
Start doing powerlifting or strongman. Lifting a little bit more everyday and being the strongest guy in the gym makes me happy.

>>41058078
Hit the swimming pool and focus on cardio. Preferably take classes that focus on cardio. It's hard to motivate yourself to run more and you slack off. Having a teacher or instructor there with you pushes you more I found.

Bikram yoga is another thing I'd suggest.

Ayahuasca. DMT

>>41059065
Listen to what you sound like. You sound like a fat Jehovah's witnesses

>>41060307
Befriend a black youth

>>41058078
height surgery?

>>41062297
least i don't smell like one

>>41058223
haHAA

>>41058083
/ t h r e a d

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>>41058222

>>41058325

THanks based anon, I needed this post

Not the guy you're replying to though

Get drugged up, it sucks to depend on chemicals for happiness, but they work. If that can't even help, an hero desu

>>41058222
Holy shit, this.

>>41058325
not OP. thank you for the videos. most of the books I already read

I would like to recommend to anyone Resurrection by Tolstoy as well. It is deeply comforting and very different from the nihilistic shit that is being shitposted about on /lit/.

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>>41058078
The ride never ends, supressing it with lifting and ciggies works for me

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>>41058222

gotta boost dopamine levels m8
natty for best results


ie find what you like (hint: be selfish)

OP you look hot.

Kik? I'm a faggot

>>41058078
>be depressed
Perfect OP, instead of killing yourself you could use depression to either bulk up as a result of comfort eating or use your depression to fuel an eating disorder you can mask as "the ultimate cut," just play your strength and make those pain gains

>>41058078
Lift harder faggot

>>41058078
Piss off and kys or at least cancel your internet so you cant bother us with your bitch ass weaboo problems any longer you pathetic attention whore.

Want an honest answer? Stop masturbating. Dopamine overload is making you desensitized to the happiness neurotransmitter and making you feel depressed. I stopped masturbating all the time and I'm happy again.

Shit works mates.

>>41062192
Wanted to do it but too paranoid typing in all the details of my personality onto his website.

>>41059030
Protip:
Christianity basically means that since you deserve paradise in the afterlife, there's no point in avoiding misery or sorrow.

TL;DR Shit happens, it gets better eventually.

>>41064950
Who's Chris Chee Hannity?

>>41058078
become a man

you fucking pussy

>>41058120
If you're ever on U of T campus you wanna go to the right food truck and get the poutine. Better than a lot of even restaurants.
The left one is just generic Chinese, not so good.

>>41058078
dont do anything. practice non-self and religiously stick to a routine. depression will eventually dissipate.

t. schizophreniform bipolar freak

>>41058078
Recognize that depression is a choice and master your own mind in getting rid of it

A combination of medication and behavioral therapy.

>>41058222
Saved. Thanks.

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>>41058078
Yeah depression is helped my exercise but thats only a physical and temporary remedy. You need to go deeper anon.

I get asked by friends who aren't doing so well in my field how I keep going. My response is always; 'Stop being a sadcunt'.

Motivation comes from within. You need a purpose in life.

Set yourself a long term career goal; +5 years. Seriously ask yourself where do you want to be then?

You will then have something to work towards, everything do you between then (working, emailing, gymming, eating and dressing well etc.) will be minor things working towards the man you want to be. Without an endgame you are just floating on still waters without direction.

Fucking hit life hard you sadcunt.

>>41065471
>religiously stick to a routine
this this this this

Be autistic as fuck and establish order in your life. it helps alot!

>>41064917
I want to know what the absolute worst case scenario is that you envision from giving him information about your thoughts and feelings

Like if it were the most perfect worst thing possible that he was secretly logging your information and using it for what would it be

>>41065747
like say maybe he is storing all the information people are putting in and then he's going to put it all together and use it for some kind of study

so what? It's anonymous anyway so it literally does not fucking matter

but then say that he is actually going to go through and match your future authoring account with your credit card information so that he can tie what you type in to your real world identity

then what?

he's going to create some sort of evil mastermind database of people's hopes and dreams for the future?

then what?

what exactly is he going to use it for? How will he use it to hurt you?

I really really want to know

>>41058078
I think it was on /fit/ actually where I first saw someone say this. If you are depressed it usually means you haven't done anything memorable in a while. If you struggle remembering the last time you had fun get the fuck out of your house even if its by yourself or with just one buddy and do something memorable.
Go skydiving
Go to a concert
Go to a different country
Go on a roadtrip
etc

>>41065784
Pretty sure that is bro science.

>>41058078
friends, companionship, sunlight, see a therapist, get some ssri's if you need to (start low dosage), pursue a dream, find someone you can always talk to and use as emotional support

>>41058408
Who is this?

>>41058085
this is your only true solution

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>>41065833
The savior of the western world.

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>>41058222
>>41064382

>>41058083
/thread

>>41058777
There is not one who will not judge you at some point. It would be statistically impossible for there to be someone who holds all of your views, all of your dreams and all of your fears.

However, there is an excellent chance there is someone who will tolerate or encourage the ones you require to live and you can live with judgment on the others.

They might not be pretty though (in more meanings then one).

>>41058078
Go again retard

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I had oats and a protein shake for breakfast /fit/, what about you?

>>41064950
Christianity is the annihilation of the self. You become the Beta, literally turning your other cheek. You abstain from pleasure.

A life of a christian, i.e a life of a Puritan is miserable

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>>41065807
Except its not, even just going out for a walk or a cycle can help with depression. I will agree that just getting out can't help with depression, take Robin Williams for example but doing the same thing over and over, especially shut in neet activities can easily lead to depression.

If you're jaded with that's happening try something new.

Disclaimer: There are people who are clinically depressed and have mental health problems.

>thread full of low-test betas recommending god, jordan peterson and other temporary feel good garbage that doesn't help mental illness

you need a psychologist who listens, potentially medication, more lifting, fulfilling relationships (not just romantic either)

anyone else who recommends anything else is blowing smoke up your ass

>>41066259

Seconding this, but also you should try to slowly push your comfort zones. Start small.

>>41066180
>Disclaimer: There are people who are clinically depressed and have mental health problems

Exactly, boredom and sadness are not depression. All the shit that keeps getting brought up is like a bandage that is too small. Distraction and little else. I was diagnosed with major depressive disorder at around the ages of 6-8. I have done all kinds of the shit posted in this thread and at most made me feel better for a few hours. To those legitimately suffering, try everything and hope something eventually helps you. Nothing has really helped me so I'm still looking.

Get up in the morning and live in such a way that is building toward hopes of a better future. If you can't bring yourself to care much about achievement, at least live with the attitude that you will live out your life until you die naturally. We were not all meant to be happy in this life. I tell myself this daily. Gives me a feeling of strength. Those who suffer and persevere can conquer and make great things happen.

just flex a 'cep, bro!

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>>41058222
Great post anon.

>>41064917
Dude, then write them down on a piece of paper. Just free write about what you want for your future. Here's three questions for you, I want you to pull out some paper and give a one page honest answer to each:

1. What do you want your social life to be like in the future?
2. What do you want your career life to be like in the future?
3. What is the best way you can imagine spending your free time, if your life was set up exactly how you wanted?

The suite is still better. There are many more questions and quizzes and things that help you put your vision for the future into concrete terms so you have something tangible to strive for and know how to construct small steps to reach it. Most people are far more capable than they realize, but get stymied by the scope of what they perceive as an impossible dream. Peterson is the real deal, he genuinely wants to help people and believes this is the best way to do it. I can't imagine he's collecting data for nefarious reasons. And even if he is - I'm still better for having done the writing. I'll accept the consequences.

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>>41058325
>not including the most /fit/ book ever

>>41058078
What Routine did you do and how long?

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>>41058834
Yea all those poor famous rich and good looking Chads and Stacies have it so rough with so much causal sex and money to spend and people telling them how great they are all the time.

Gee I would hate to be in their shoes.

>>41067613
Yeah, it's not like all those famous people end up as alcoholics and drug addicts and blow their braons out.