/fit/ guide to choosing a martial art - ultimate edition

>>41036419
Disturbingly bad information.

>>41036443
Absolutely accurate you mean. Ive trained my whole life, have a bjj black belt, fought as an amateur in boxing, practiced shaolin kung fu and capoeira as a teenager , and have sparred/am friends with fighters of countless styles of karate and grappling and it's 100% correct.

I could have added catch wrestling but it's dead aside from Japan and maybe Erik Paulson in the US... I dont even know who teaches it anymore. Also at this point it's indistinguishable from submission wrestling as well as no-gi BJJ except for some submissions which you'd find in Sambo anyway.

Karate is point sparring except for Kyokushin. Point sparring is a joke.

Everything in that post is accurate, sorry if it busts your kung fu mental masturbation pal

So should I go boxing or krav maga?

>>41036502
Are you afraid for your life? Are you a security guard who needs to immobilize drunk people and throw them out? Krav Maga.

Are you just a regular dude who occasionally might need to get rough but don't necessarily fear for your life? Boxing of course. In fact, do both. Do a few months of krav maga and get some solid techniques to use in tough situations and keep drilling them forever.

Just find a school that has full contact sparring with gloves and headgear. Do NOT fall for those bullshit "self defense" schools that only teach you locks like "he does this then you grab here then you twist there"

this shit will give you a false sense of security and you will get knocked the fuck out the first time you try to grab someone's wrist

That's the thing, there are no boxing mcdojos.

>>41036502
boxing hands down. you will learn to slip punches and move. you dont learn that anywhere else.

once you can box, add whatever you want.

boxing is the SS of fight sports.

>>41036502
boxing will be better for nearly every situation you might encounter. also better overall fitness and form.
krav maga will be better if you find yourself in an actual close combat life or death situation. this is very unlikely unless you live in syria, ukraine, mexico or chicago.

>>41036591
You learn that in every single striking art with full contact sparring, including savate and kenpo. The thing is though they aren't as realistic or they're too stylistic and they definitely don't focus enough.

>>41036502
Boxing is amazing. I watched a dude beat the fuck out of bigger guy at a Target. It wasn't special techniques or anything like that, he just knew how to avoid a punch and punch the shit out of that dude's face like there was no tomorrow.

>>41036490
You literally list boxing as better than Muay that for the only fact that it's more available, yet say Muay Thai is better than boxing because you have more options, then list kickboxing as lower than boxing and Muay Thai, shitty logic.

Where did you get your bb from? Who gave it to you? What's your lineage? You don't fucking know what you're talking about stop misinforming people.

>>41036799
To add to this you don't even bring up the point that if someone wants to protect themselves they should probably have a stand up game and a ground game.

>>41036799
WTF are you talking about.

Muay thai offers more TOOLS in a fight, and it is a more complete martial art but finding a legit gym is impossible. Are you fucking stupid?

Kickboxing doesn't use hands and knees and has a far LOWER TECHNICAL LEVEL IN COMPETITION than boxing, meaning that a good kickboxer will not likely be as good a fighter as a good boxer.

If you're going to punch and kick, don't kickbox, look for muay thai. Kickboxing is 99% ass in most schools I've seen and most fighters I know are mediocre. The same can not be said for boxing.

I wont disclose personal info, so fuck right off pal

>wasting money learning martial arts
>not buying a gun for self-defense

>>41036826
Because Im discussing which martial arts to pick, and not a mix and match. There's enough information there for anyone who might want to mix and match if they have the time and energy.

>>41037172
I hate cunts like you.
It's akin to stolen Valor.

>>41037275
there's always some psycho cunt such as yourself looking for shit to get riled up about over absolutely nothing

>>41037294
I guarantee you've been to 2 MMA sessions

>>41037307
I taught more than that this week.

I like the idea of boxing but isn't it pretty dangerous? I don't want brain damage or something.

>>41037507
i did boxing for a while and while i did get hit in the nose/head and it hurt i never had headaches or verigo

if you fight you might get hurt but if you just spar your good

What's good for a small lady? I'm never ever going to be able to punch out a big dude so I feel like boxing wouldn't really help me. Running game's already on point but I would like to learn a little defense anyway

>>41036490
>>41037172
This shit is actually hilarious. Anyone with a legitimate black belt in jiu jitsu would not be LARPing in a thread on /fit/

You're at best a white belt at one of these McDojos that you're so sure everyone but you goes to.

t. blue belt from the most notable coral belt that isn't Rickson.

>>41037669
Just let them rape you.

>>41036629
>>41036591
I kicked major ass in kenpo sparring as a young lad simply by doing some boxing on the side as well. OP is right: any style done right is awesome, but except for boxing most stuff is McDojos with little or no sparring and way too much "practice" with opponents that don't actually resist.

I remember in my kenpo dojo that I and my friends who took it seriously would come in a few hours before class and sparr for real, like truly beating the shit out of each-other, testing the techniques we where taught: maybe one thing in ten truly worked. When we told the "masters" they just ignored the problem.

>>41036419
>All that shit
Jeez, keep it simple.
>Pick one striking and one grappling.
>Make sure it's actual martial arts and not mystic bullshit.

Really that simple.

Can anybody who is calling op out on his bullshit please clarify what he has said that is wrong.

I came here because I'm interested, so if OP is wrong somebody tell me what is right, because all I'm seeing is autism.

>>41037769
I would prefer not to do that

>>41037669
Womens' self defense courses. Those bitches fight dirty.
Keeping mace and keys handy and learning awareness.

>>41037799
Yeah but which ones? Which striking one and which grappling? And how to know which ones are legit? Laypeople can't tell. They watched too much Matrix and anime.

>>41037755
BB under Wendell Alexander, Nova Uniao

lol blue belt... i knew there was a reason why u talk so much and know so little

>>41037819
Grappling, then. You're too weak to beat someone up, you need to learn techniques for bringing larger people down. Also this: >>41037825

>>41037669
Gracie jiu jitsu for women is excellent, Krav Maga also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7NpXQkw5pU&t=76s

this shirt choke is excellent for women

>>41037669
Learn grappling and get a gun. If you can't get a gun, then get OC spray.

>>41037834
>Which striking one and which grappling?
IMO, honestly doesn't matter. The core concepts are basically the same.

>And how to know which ones are legit?
Laypeople can't tell.
An easy way to tell is by the consistency and quality of sparring. You want to spar as realistically as you can, as often as you can. All of the C-Tier's in the OP are characterized by lack of sparring or script-tier training.

>>41037850
>>41037841
Which would you recommend starting with?
>>41037825
I have keychain pepper spray thing and I've take a few courses, but they didn't feel helpful

>>41037916

If you are a woman, I recommend finding a good krav maga gym, with certified instructors.

Also BJJ is good especially against rape, as there are dozens of ways to break something or put a guy to sleep when he's between your legs.

Everything else... will be pretty useless. As a small and weak person you need to put a guy out and knocking him out is not an option, so you need to either choke him out, break something major, or hit the throat/eyes/balls.

A good krav maga gym will include also striking and basic grappling so all in all, this is the way to go for you.

>>41037755
Glad someone else picked up on this.
>>41037804
OP is listing boxing as the Best martial art ever which is dumb. It's limited and it expects people to do nothing but assume a boxing stance and trade blows with you.

He criticises Muay Thai as there only McDojos outside of Thailand which isn't true. Any decent MMA gym in America with prestige will teach Muay Thai/kickboxing and teach it well. In the U.K. I've been to a couple of good Muay Thai gyms too but kickboxing is generally bigger over here.
Which brings me onto my 3rd issue, OP trashes kickboxing and puts it with a bunch of martial arts nobody has ever heard of, even though it's what got ken Shamrock into UFC 1. It's effective, if less so than Muay Thai. And certainly more well rounded than boxing.
Another issue is that OP holds judo and BJJ as the same thing. They compliment each other, and are both useful, but are not the same thing. He over hypes it at an early stage, and honestly if you've done it for 3 months and try to submit someone 10kg heavier than you that's laying bombs down, you're not gonna do it. That being said it's fucking brilliant when you get further through with it and that's the reason that every fighter in the UFC learns it. Just look at Royce Gracie in UFC 1, who submitted ken shamrock for example. Judo and BJJ compliment each other because judo ignores what to do when you take them down and BJJ ignores taking them down in the first place.

IMO and in the opinion of anyone that actually knows what the fuck fighting is about, you should pick 2 martial arts, one sticking and one grappling, and not try and compare the two types with each other.
I personally believe and most people I've trained with agree that it goes like this.
Effective striking:
Muay Thai > kickboxing > boxing
Effective grappling/submission
BJJ > wrestling > judo.

The 1 thing op got right is everything on the bottom tier.

Just my input, take it or leave it

>>41037916
>I have keychain pepper spray thing
Remember to practice with it. Here are some scenarios to think about. If a big man grabbed you from behind in a choke hold, what could you do? If a big man charged at you from the front, what could you do? If a big man had you pinned on the ground, what could you do?

Start with BJJ or Krav Maga. If what you're learning won't help with the scenarios I described, find another instructor.

>>41037953
Pro tip: if you have to call your teacher sensei, master, sifu, or anything like that, you're probably at a McDojo.

e aí, cara

to há 2 meses no muay thai

faço na academia n1

vamo q vamo bixão

>>41037916
Whichever one has lots of sparring. Good teachers and serious, passionate fellow trainers are more important than the style itself. Any discussion on styles is meaningless given that few places will teach the ideal version of the style in the ideal way. For example, jiu jutsu may be "better" than aikido in an ideal situation, but a good aikido dojo will still prepare you more than a jj McDojo.

I loved my old kenpo dojo because there where passionate people there - the girls specifically requested we make our fake-assaults and sparring as realistic as possible, so Id' wind up jumping them while sceeching like a madman about to actually rape them and they could try what really worked and what didn't. Find people like that. You'll wind up bruised but STRONG and also make bros.

>>41037971
Seconded.

The only thing OP is professional at is bullshido

>>41038006

That sounds hot, I'd love to spar-rape girls.

Win win, they learn realistic defending, I get to pretend to rape them a bit.

>>41037953

I literally said that boxing is not as complete as other martial arts, it's simply the most reliable when it comes to choosing which one to practice.

If there are good muay thai gyms in the UK, great! My words were "if you found one and want to put in the time then DO IT"

Judo and BJJ are the same thing in many ways. They are different sparring rulesets for the same martial arts. The techniques are the same, except BJJ allows for more of the ones that Judo has banned on the ground AND on standup. Mitsuyo Maeda was a student under Jigoro Kano and Helio Gracie was considered a judo black belt by the Kodokan.

If after 3 months you cant do a double leg into a mount and armbar/lionkiller choke into a layman then your school is shit and you need to swap. Thats -my- opinion.

Ken Shamrock was a catch wrestler, not a kickboxer. Gerard Gordeau was a kickboxer.

BJJ is brilliant, i would know since Ive been doing it since 2004.

Judo doesnt ignore newaza, it simply doesn't focus on it as much. BJJ does NOT ignore taking people down i dont know WHERE you train but in BJJ all judo AND wrestling takedowns are allowed and every single decent school trains them!!!

Half of what you said is due to not reading my post carefully, and the other half is just plain wrong.

>>41037945
Thanks Anon. I'm going to look for a Krav Maga instructor then!
>>41037959
Those are good things to think about. I have it on my keys, but normally my keys are in my bag if I'm walking around, even if I feel like I'm in a sketchy area. I wouldn't have time to stop and take out my keys at all...
>>41038006
that mental image is kind of hilarious

>>41038007
I, OP, posted in that forum back in 2005,when i was just a BJJ blue and the world was still infected with the belief that kung fu was hot shit and the UFC and PRIDE were still outlier freak shows.

Irony is here

>>41038064
https://youtu.be/haZ8g8dMuok
>ken shamrock is not a kickboxer

>>41038071
>I wouldn't have time to stop and take out my keys at all...
Exactly. This happens a lot with women (no offense). They leave their self-defense tools in a purse or bag. You might as well not have it at all. Remember: self-defense isn't a joke. Every time you add something to your self-defense skillset/toolset, think of some example scenarios (like the ones I described) and consider how viable it would be.

>>41038064
I'm sorry OP, but no one actually read your guide. It's good advice, looking at WHAT is actually being taught and HOW and not the brand-name it's ebing done under. Ignore the haters.

>>41038071
More awkward than hot, especially with cute girls.

>>41038039
Oh we laughed about that crap all the time, but it was good practice. Being comfy enough with people to both kick their ass and make a fool of yourself in front of them is important.

OP, nice job on the picture

I've seen flowcharts describing hurr what to choose etc but this is the first time I saw something complete and well rounded. Boxing is the staple of becoming a good fighter, a person that trains box for 6 months can btfo anyone without any fighting experience.

The hands vs feet discussion is also good, TKD, capoeira, kickbox lack this awareness and emphasise the legs way too much while ignoring the hands. Muay thai and boxing would also be on the top of my list, but these two both lack grappling. So cheers for a well rounded list man, the sparring is so important in any martial art and should not be hindered too much

>>41038122
If you're gonna use that logic, then Royce Gracie is also a kickboxer cause he trains in it...?

Ken was a catch wrestler, together with Funaki. This was his primary martial art, he also trained in standup to fight in the early Pancrase tournaments. He was a grappler first and foremost.

PS kickboxing sucks compared to muay thai , give it up man

>>41038126
>Every time you add something to your self-defense skillset/toolset, think of some example scenarios (like the ones I described) and consider how viable it would be.
This is good advice for men too. Always double-check to make sure you're not investing time/money in bullshit.

I am >>41038163

I meant that boxing is a really good foundation and will give you some idea of how to strike evade and muay thai utilising what boxing lacks, the feet, elbows, knees etc

>>41038126
I'm glad you mentioned this. I really don't have it at the ready for it to be useful to me. I'll be more mindful about that.

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>>41036419

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>>41037178
beta faggot detected

>this iz bestest info evar11!!!
>considering martial arts for self defense
Lolz

Carry a gun. If you can't carry because your government views you as an expendable resource, take up cross country. Martial arts for "self defense" is just code for "I wanna act like a tough guy."

>>41037178
>>41038463
Guns are awesome for self-defense, however...
Almost all violent crimes happen from an ambush. Before you can get your gun out and on target, at an appropriate distance, you need empty-handed skills to defend yourself from the initial attack.

>tfw want to learn to fight but don't want to get a bunch of concussions in training

>>41037178
Why not both?>>41037183

>>41036419
>boxing
>no defense

>>41038527
i've never been punched full force in the head while training muay thai or boxing.

>>41036443
>Disturbingly bad information
This. I'm a brown belt in jiu jitsu and I don't get the self-defense thing. You basically learn what you need to defend yourself in your first few months of training - it would make absolutely no sense to do that shit for years. Also, it's a sport like e.g. judo, not a martial art

>>41037364
Proof

Tbh boxing is the best, normally streetfights start with two people touching chests.
A quick right hook to the chin always does the trick.

>>41038655
Also an elbow
So mauy thai works just as good

>>41038463
Are you going to pull a gun out for a fistfight? Enjoy your lawsuit.

>>41036419
What would you say an average/standard boxing regiment would be?

In terms of kalisthetics / skipping for a warm up.

I'm curious since I"ve always wanted to check out a boxing gym.

Thanks for the info, OP.

In Burgerland, there are really only boxing clubs in supply, so I guess that settles it for me.

Wish I had taken up wrestling in high school though, since it would have filled the gap for grappling.

>>41036443
/thread

He's talking about real fights dumbasses.

Most fights don't last more than 2 seconds. Boxing is the most practical of them all.

>>41036419
You're a fucking edge lord and it shows in your writing. Go pound another Monster bro.

>>41037669
krav
just rip his eyes out lmao

>>41037178
what if you don't live in usa ?

>>41037769
sambo or judo

>>41037787
I took kenpo. My instructor hit us hard. Said we needed to be ready for when it was real. I saw him punch a 12 year old girl as hard as he could. She cried. He said "now youll be ready for it."

>>41036419
Kind of upset that JJJ gets shat on so much. Sure, my style's reformed and modernised, but the base is still JJJ. It's effective. This is not because I fall in the "10 years plus" category, not only at least, there's real effectivity.

>>41038955
boxing training is usually 30 mins physical 30 mins technical 30mins sparring, the whole time is in rounds 3 mins of activitiy and 1 of rest

physical: ab work, rope, pushups, neck work etc

technical: bag, drills, pads, shadowboxing etc

sparring: u fight

>OP posts objectively good info

>Sport fed rules faggots who have never had someone try to end their life in front of some bar sperd out because OP shittalked their preferred form of aikido

Hate these faggots desu. There's a reason soft normies think boxing gyms are intimidating sweat pits full of violent men yet will happily trot along to their martial "arts" classes to practice their tkd kicks with zero resistance.

I want martial arts weebs to leave and take their anime with them. All these Asian martial arts are so watered down they don't even train how to move out the way of a punch, and like to swing entirely from the shoulder when trying to strike.

>>41036419
Aikido?

>>41039228
Based

Lads, what're some red flags to know wether you're in a McDojo?
What to look for to know if it's a good place to learn?
My friend and I are debating wheter to take boxing or mma, since those are the only two options available to us right now.

>>41039504
couple useful wristlocks

and a whole lot of voodoo

>>41039723
kata? mcdojo
chubby teacher? mcdojo?
chi? mcdojo
secret techniques too dangerous? mcdojo
no real sparring ? MCDOJO

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fixd

>no Muay Thai places
Why's your country so shitty? I'm starting with Muay Thai here in Germany and went to an amateur competition with my brother who practices it for seven years. The gym/dojo does a lot of sparring and at the competition every second fight included one of the fighters ending with a bloody face. How come nobody in the US (I assume op is unitedstadian) offers good Muay Thai?

>>41039884
Too bad a lot of gyms in germany are full of muslims

>>41037804
The thing that jumped out at me is that he says judo doesnt allow leg grabs in sparring. This information is outdated as over the last two years most "forbidden techniques" have been allowed back into competition.

>>41039822
Can there be a MMA McDojo?

>>41039911
Most shitty excuse not to join a gym. What do you /pol/-tards think muslims in a muay thai gym will do, try to convert you between your technique practice?

>Anon! low kick
>left swing
>ashadu an la illaha illa allah
>right swing
>uppercut

>>41037945
Judokan will also suggest that if you can knock someone down w/o falling yourself you can make good distance.

>>41039986
look at the quality of fighters with pro/am records
do they mostly churn out mediocre amateurs?
Have few/none of their fighters gone pro?
is the/was the owner pro?
what was his record?
was it good?
was it bad?
how did he get most of his wins?
apply the same questions to students that have done any pro/am fights

>>41039911
I mean, isn't that a good thing? You get to practice with the real thing from the start
>>41039999
Checked and keked

>>41039999
Fuck I kekd
Also nice quads

>>41039999
>What do you /pol/-tards think muslims in a muay thai gym will do, try to convert you between your technique practice?
Nah, just blow up the establishment for not forcing female trainees to wear burqas during practice

>>41039959
morote gari is allowed again?

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>>41037971
Possibly modulated by having a really fucking old teacher. At my club theres one guy who insists on being called sensei whos like sixty, and almost twice the age of the youngest blackbelt i workout with.

>>41040038
What about boxing?

>>41040100
Ask yourself the exact same question.

>>41040086
Try to shut down the computer and step into the real world, making /pol/ comments in a bar will get you a fist into your face and not protect you from it

>>41040130
I live in SF, I've made /pol/ comments in public before
Nobody's ever done shit, and you wouldn't do shit either if you heard me, softie.

>>41037669
My MMA gym occasionally does self defence courses for grills only.

>>41040176
kek why do you care about germany then, bet youve never seen one muslim irl

>>41040243
>SF
>one of the most diverse cities on the planet
I think you're the one who needs to get out more
I've gone to school with, worked with, and even trained with plenty of Muslims, and my problem isn't with them as people, all the ones with whom I've interacted were all very nice and polite. I care about Germany, because there's a difference between the ones that come here and assimilate to our culture within reason, while still following the tenets of their faith, as opposed to Germany where refugees throw shit fits over any sighting of people not living in accordance with their law.

t. somebody who lives in a city that, despite having a Muslim population, they've never tried to blow up any part of the very sizable and very vocal gay community that's also present

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>>41036419
cool infographic, i'll share a story for /fit/'s pleasure

>lift 3 years
>cardio whole life
>4 years wrestling
>1 year BJJ

Now i'm a 6ft lanklet but pretty strong from lifting and the above. Dont like violence, I've run from at least 20 situations in my life where there could be violence or fighting. I figure I run better than I fight so I just run. However at this point I've spent 2 years living with some crack dealers and bouncers/bullies who used to do football in highschool, wrestling, just get into tons of streetfights and beat people up. So everyday coming home from gym the big one grapples me. Nigga has 100lbs on me so no striking just BJJ/wrestling until someone taps. Over and over again. In total I have 200 fights under my belts. 198 losses 2 wins.

>go for run at 11 at night
>find a sandnigger beating a woman in the middle of the street
>run up and say "hey bro maybe leave her alone and go somewhere else"
>he hits her
>"hey man dont hit her come on, wtf"
>he punches her and knocks her down
beastmode.exe
>gap close, juke his grab and put him in a rear naked choke
>have his fucking arm in it too, he's done in seconds
>he goes ballistic with everything he has (he a bit shorter but stockier frame, prob doesnt lift much)
>I gently squat him down on the pavement and wait
>he can't do a fucking thing starts tapping and wheezing for his life
>woman comes over and takes her wallet back says ty i tell her to run awa
>wait till she runs away
>I SPRINT home very scared of repurcussions

i coulda done anything to this guy, stomped his nuts to paste, stole his car, his wallet, shit in his mouth but i didnt hurt him because i didnt know the whole story.

>>41040409
>I SPRINT home very scared of repurcussions
>i coulda done anything to this guy, stomped his nuts to paste, stole his car, his wallet, shit in his mouth but i didnt hurt him because i didnt know the whole story
smart, very very smart of you.
because
1- you don't know if he has friends, so it's good that you didn't stick around longer than you had to
and
2- if you did anything to him after incapacitating him, legally speaking that would have put you in a lot of trouble if the law got involved, because that would have been considered excessive force, and if he wanted to, he could even press charges against YOU

overall good story, it's good that you know how to take care of yourself, but are also smart enough to know when to run when you can, because life isn't a movie, so you don't have plot armor to keep you safe from harm or from repercussions for your actions

>>41040348
>letmetellyouaboutyourcountry.jpg
Yo know nothing about german muslims but you still care for us.

>because there's a difference between the ones that come here and assimilate to our culture within reason, while still following the tenets of their faith
every single muslim refugee I met was nice and glad to be here.

>>41040685
>>41040348
I live in a small village and we have ~100 refugees here. Faithful muslims all try to integrate as quickly as possible in order to build a new life and support their families. The only problem we have are drunk nafries(north africans) and blacks who deal and are constantly drunk. They have little to no prospect to asylum here in germany, so half of them are illegals and the other half tries to get out as much as possible from their short stay in germany.
Your brainwashed media tells you islam is the problem here when it really is border control on the mediterranean

>inb4 muh terror attacks
look at the perpetrator profiles, all of them are failed existences

>>41040528
thanks my man

>>41039342
ty bruh.

I'm so FUCKING excited to join my University's boxing club this fall

Where does HEMA sparring fall into this?

>>41038064
You clearly don't train judo if you think that the stand-up is anywhere near half covered in BJJ. BJJ is literally just people skooting around on their ass and Judo is people slamming each other into the ground..

how many injuries do you get boxing?

I don't mind getting hit on most places including face, but I have a recurring thing ever since I had hernia surgery so I'm deathly afraid of getting hit on my stomach.

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>>41039841
Nuthing personal...kid

>>41042935
lol no amateur is going to tear apart your abs with a punch

>>41038694
Anyone who continues to throw hands when you produce a weapon is intending to her their fists as deadly weapons. You're more likely to get dicked on weapon charges than a murder charge.

>>41043153
>Anyone who continues to throw hands when you produce a weapon is intending to her their fists as deadly weapons.

You're fucking retarded if you think this will hold up in court. You'll probably spend 20 years in jail for pulling out a gun in the first place.

>>41043187
Not in america

>>41043617
I live in America, idiot. You WILL get your ass sued and in prison if you so much as brandish a gun in the absence of lethal threat.

>>41043627
It isnt hard to kill a man.
What if they choke you?
What if you fall on the back of your head

>>41043643
I'm absolutely done with you. You obviously haven't studied our laws at all.

>>41043627
Not in Florida.
Which is why every black, mexican, asian, and white lower middle class person is getting out of town.
It's going to be just rednecks, trigger happy psychos, old people, old jews, and rich scumbags left.

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>Wrestling................B tier

>>41043654
Im a completely different person, but what about people like george zimmerman?

>>41043675
Got away with it because of his rich jewish judge daddy, 24/7 nonstop gorrilla pr online(you had to have noticed the "Cant flimflam the zimzam" and anti..whatever the black kids name was posts on 4chan and across every single english speaking and many spanish speaking social sites on the net right. Shit, those faggots were here in force every day for months), the nra needing to sell nigger menace to up gun sales, and the government hoping to push the whole black vs brown angle.
Because they are terrified of the negros and latins becoming a power block that would go against them and are doing everything in their power to push racial discharmony.

No one with skin shade darker then paper goes to Florida for any reason outside of business. I don't care how many so funneh black movies they make about freaknik or blacks going to florida to have a good time.
Minorities are leaving that dump

>>41036419
>le wing chun is shit maymay
Sorry about being retarded

What do I use to find decent schools in my area? Yelp fucking blows (I'm in a major city)

>>41036419
Easy mode
>Pick local gym that isn't mc dojo
Regular sparing, and non-toxic people.
If you enjoy it is prime

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Stopped reading op's pic at krav maga, haven't read the thread.

Honestly the bottom half of pic related is more ultimate than op's advice.

>>41045581
OP here

the bottom half is fantastic and accurate, though i dont get your objection to krav maga

>>41036419
Idk why you list muay thai in a different category as kick-boxing or savate.
If you're going for simplicity, kick-boxing is easier than muay thai because less rules and unless you have a clear shot at elbowing or hitting someone with the knee those moves would probably be really dangerous in a brawl because they imply that you're almost huging the guy
If you're going for realism Savate is practiced with shoes on and a good savate fighter knows how to keep a safe distance between his opponent and him to be able to hit him hard with the heel or his shoe. They also have god tier foot work.

Muay thai being a dangerous martial art it just a meme because muay thai gyms attract retards like shit attracts flies

guides okay. krav maga part is bullshit.

agree big time on the muay thai thing though. also in the uk theres like 3 legit muay thai gyms, everything else is just glorified k1 shit

>>41045581
>Moves shown are choregraphed
How the fuck do you teach a martial art properly to beginners if you don't choregraphe the moves a little to show them?
Fuck technique ! Lets do sparring immediatly :DDDD

>>41036419
Only the first line of this list is useful desu. Once you're practicing a martial art that fulfils those requirements it's just a matter of fighting smart because you know that in a brawl your opponent won't play by your rules. I'd trust a smart wrestler/judoka/kick-boxer over a dumb boxer any day despite what the tier list says

>>41045730
Krav maga is useless

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>>41046073
Good on the redneck to show restraint. Most school fights don't end until someone pulls the other guy off.

>not including Shotokan

>>41046095
i think the nog died

>>41038317
tremendous kek, thank you

>>41039884
fick dich kevin komm aldi bei bahnhof ich zieh dir neuen scheitel alta ey

>>41046073
That looks breddy dangerous? Is that blood around his face on the floor after landing?

>>41043627
"I feared for my life."

Congratulations, you just soundly defended yourself in any state that stands for a U.S. citizen's civil rights.

You know nothing about self-defense law, nogunz. There's a reason Zimmerman didn't see jail time.

>>41046095
>to show restraint
>visible blood puddle forming
Then again, he DID hold back on just fucking ripping his head off, so you have a point I guess.

Any good tutourials/youtubers or whatever to help you learn boxing by yourself?
I realize striking is pretty much all i could learn by myself but all places for martial arts are way too far away, however i do have a boxing bag at my regular gym

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This is a good thread... I'm probably going to start BJJ.

>>41036419
>krav maga
>A - Tier

Just stop please, just fucking stop. Have you even been to a fight or you're just memeing around with muh top 10 martial arts.

Fuck off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbMITmDeNCU

>>41046073
Did he died?

>>41047265
You can't. You have to spar with people or it'll be useless.