Rugby

>>41024141
it will put your gainz to use. being big/muscular for and from rugby is far more respectable than aesthetics and shit. Also its great fun and makes you tough, not just looking tough.
Its probably a little more dangerous than soccer for example, but the really bad injuries, especially knee injuries can happen in any sport.
i played yesterday and i might have hurt my knee, i dont know yet. There is no game after that i aint bruised around the whole body and especially around the shoulders. but that doesnt stop anyone who isnt a pussy

>>41024342
Keep in mind though that if you want to play rugby at a decent standard, you're going to have to incorporate a lot of speed/power exercises and not just do a brosplit.

But yeah, some of the biggest, most intimidating people I know play rugby and will always be the biggest person in the room. Had a mate when I was 18 who was 6 foot 6 and 270 pounds...Not fun to play against

>>41024141

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSl80lZKnUk

Rugby can lead to some nasty injuries, but isn't massively more dangerous than any other contact sport. As long as you fully commit to the contact and don't be a pussy you'll greatly minimize your chances of injuries

>>41024364
i dont know about the different levels. but i dont even hit gym. but it should be possible to do your whatever you already do workout and attend rugby training and then you should be fine

>>41024411
That would be fine for a social standard of rugby yeah

>>41024342
Do it, good cardio

>>41024427
if your friends drag you to rugby that would be the first step, i assume op isnt underage.
Also understanding all the little aspects of the game makes up for many physical imperfections

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I dont understand (and this is as a player) how professional rugby players (mainly forwards) are able to train so hard and so consistently with the amount of injuries.

After a match I'm out for like 2 days, can't even think of lifting, can't train and lift on the same day becuase I'm physically exhausted, and if I ever got a serious injurie like shoulder or ACL then I'd not be able to lift for like a year.

>tfw our club's backs are bigger than our second row

>>41024141
Rugby will give you physical, social and mental gains. I play for my school in the US and honestly, I think it's the best decision I've made in my college career. Great group of dudes to lift, study and be degenerates with.

Play rugby OP, you won't regret it

>>41024543
Sterons, anon.

>>41024543
Genetics, mostly. The academy selection process is brutal and only the biggest, strongest, fastest (often all three) will be picked by the end of it. In the U.K you'll have only 3 or 4 players being picked from a squad of like 30

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>>41024596
it doesn't matter how much you're juicing, if you're shoulder's dislocated you can't bench press

i mean here's david pocock's fucking hand, how are you meant to lift ANYTHING when you're held together with little bits of bike chain and yet pocock is bigger than most bodybuilders

>>41024647
I do think Pocock was on steroids as a kid though, apparently he gained close to 20kg in a year in high school

>>41024342
Hell yeah it will

>>41024543
>>41024623
Yeah this anon actually knows. Have 50 guys start training 4-5 times a week when they are eight years old. Same team, same exercises, same dedication. After a while, some leave the team and after a decade of training, the wheat is separated from the chaff.
Tendon attachments, muscle insertions, talent, ability to recover are all genetically determined. You can bust your ass all day long, at some point there will be people that train just as hard and are genetically gifted. Such is life

A question for any players.

I've been doing bodyweight and running for years and today I'm 5'9'' 130 lbs. Can I normally play rugby or by being skinnier than every other player I'm gonna have increased chance of injury/accident in every collision? Should I stay with solo sports or give it a try? I wouldn't bulk since I plan to go to boxing after I finish college and weight would be bad.

>>41024543
as i stated im dyel but if i play sunday, training on tuesday is no problem

>>41024704
Exactly. Take a pool of genetically gifted freaks, have them pick up a rugby ball when they first start walking, get them in the gym at 14-15, and by the time they potentially go pro they're going to be built like mountains

>>41024721
The latter, especially if you're wanting to play a decent standard. At your height weight I'd recommend scrum half, and you'd want to bulk to like 160 maybe? Depends where your body is currently

>>41024721
Sorry anon, just read you didn't want to bulk. Honestly I'm probably overstating the bulk thing, I'm guessing you're playing at a social standard so just go out and have fun, no one really gives much of a shit about height and weight at that standard

I don't know a lot about sports, but how common are roids in Rugby Union?

>>41024776
Would play tennis if we had a grass court. I don't want to fuck up my knees running on hard floor.

>>41024813
At the lower levels, massively (especially the Welsh, everyone and their mother is taking steroids) Professionally, rare, though a few questionable physiques

>>41024721
playing rugby is better than lifting/cardio/nothing at all if you want to start boxing i guess. you dont join a club and wont be able to scratch your back two weeks later. I know ists an odd saying but rugby has room for all shapes and sizes. Ofcourse a man of a 6´2 240lbs frame will play a different role on the pitch than you, but anyone can be an asset. (In my team for example, we bully other teams with our big forwards but we sure could use more fast and skilled back better than another big forward) just dont be a fragile skeleton

>>41024813
I imagine steroid use in professional is comparable to other contact sports but in rugby, size isn't necessarily everything. Players are better off working their skills and running than becoming beefcakes

>>41024862
Power, more than size is important, it's just that training for power often involves developing size

>>41024869
basically yeah

wear head gear. idgaf if you think you look like a cunt. Wish someone had made me desu, I had too fucking many concussions in my teens.

>>41024893
No one cares about headgear really, everyone wears one

>>41024936
>>41024893
headgear isnt for concussion prevention, its orignally to keep the ears of locks attached to their heads

>>41024925
lovely, gainz put to use

>>41024959
that and just a general sense of confidence going into the contact

>>41024141
i have its great

>>41024976
bro, just flex your brain before contact

>>41024845
>fragile skeleton

At moment I can do 5x10 dips, 5x5 Lpulls, 5x10 elevated push ups and planche leans. Is this enough?

>>41024993
What about free weights?

>>41024936
must be common now then. few used to wear them.

>>41024959
OK. I'll change it to *wear head gear if your going to nut people in mauls just in case

>>41024987
>Contact
Tried that, wasn't fun

>>41025015
I only do bodyweight, dont know.

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There's a great culture around rugby that gives you a total platform for your social life and physical improvement.

Loads of fun.

>>41025082
Can't stress the first one enough, social gains are definitely made

I am 5'10, is there a place for me in low level rugby?

>>41025173
loooooaaaaads of top level players are 5 10 anon, go for it

>>41024993
just show up, do the training sessions and let the coach be the judge. rugby training has literally no downsides or restrictions

>>41024817
Dude fucking start living your life. You won't need your knees that much when you're 60 years old. But not playing a sport like tennis because you are afraid of your knees is stupid imo.

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>>41025198
Exactly, it's an extremely inclusive sport when guy pictured played at the highest level

Oi lads, what's the social life like in your clubs

I moved from a pretty serious team to a drinking team which occasionally play rugby. Our socials are more practiced and structured than our game play. Do you boys have different masters? What games do you lot play?

We have a game called station fruit, where you have to either associate a station to the previous person's fruit or vice versa. You have to provide an explanation for why and if you get it wrong you down your drink. Except that only a few people "know" the rules and everyone suspects that there are actually no rules at all so it's a massive pisstake.

>>41025221
as i mentioned, that guy compensated with world class game understanding and decisionmaking

>>41025245
wat?

>>41025201
I'm gonna try next session.

>>41025245
I don't know why you enjoy this. I like a beer or wine like once a year but drinking to get drunk is unfunny. I drank heavy less than 10 times in my life and at it lost the appeal when I hit 20.

>>41025271
Social, lad. DYES? Rugby lads top lads, Rugger mugger sister bugger etc. etc. DYER

>>41024571
>>41024382
>>41024342
>>41024571
OP here, I'm probably gonna do it, I come from a family of tough ass Cajuns and I feel like I definitely could be tougher, also just met some of the players and they are some fun ass don't give a fuck people, my kinda shit

>>41025309
M8 if you don't enjoy getting drunk in a rugby club I don't know what on earth you're doing. Work hard, rugby hard, drink hard brother

>>41025271
wat? was directed at the station fruit game as a did not understand it

>>41025329
good to hear that.but cut out that ((probably))

>>41025254
I'm not denying that for a second, it's more to my point that physique comes second a lot of the time to pure game understanding

>>41025363
yup

>>41025375
But is still an important part; could you imagine how out of this world Goode would have been if he was explosive, powerful and fast as well as having god tier game understanding?

>>41024141
A bunch of my friends play rugby and have been trying to get me into it as well.
Now that my back isn't bothering me anymore, I'm going to join. They got like 1 game left this season though, and I don't know how it goes during the off-season... So we'll see when I'm actually going to start.

Not sure how I'm going to perform, as I'm a small guy (5'7, 165), but not very agile/fast.
We'll see how much Rippetoe's teachings help in rugby.

>>41025347
>Brother Anon, the starting station for this game is Waterloo. If Waterloo happens to be the station, what fruit would you associate it with ?
>Well... Brothers, waterloo happens to be on the bakerloo, jubilee, waterloo, and northern lines. These stations all happen to be of brown, grey, blue, and black colours respectively, so the fruit's colour at first glance would appear to be relatively conservative and non-descript. This leeds to me to be inclined to believe it would be the Kiwi
>But wait! Far from being conservatively coloured, the kiwi, despite its drab appearance, is actually remarkably brightly coloured on the inside. So it cannot be the kiwi. So I'll go instead for a fruit very similar to the kiwi. Which in this case means the kumquat.
>Hmm... Brother Measures, what do you think of this answer?
>Well, Brother Drinks Master, I could see where he was going, and I thought he almost had it there for a second, but he just couldn't make the final intuitive leap of reasoning. So I'm afraid to say, that's wrong. Top it up with guinness and see it off.
>Right. Now, brother anon n.2, were Kumquat the CORRECT answer, what tube station would you associate it with?

>>41025425
Are you strong?

>>41025413
yeah, but he did pretty well and now serves as an obvious example of how importand mind is

>played for a couple of years
>didn't even get fit
>team was shit
>we didn't even speak to each other out of the camp
>coach made a shit job at explaining tactics and shit
>never learned anything
>never won a game

And then I stopped playing and never went back, pity because it's the only sport I've ever liked.

>>41025428
????????

>>41025425
actually the best timing to start. watch that last game and train with the for the first game of next season

>>41025469
Sorry to hear that lad. Come join my team, I'm this >>41025428 bloke and we talk to each other all the time, coach ourselves, and somehow hold ourselves up in Div 1.

>>41025447
Agreed. I've also met the bloke, great guy

>>41025473
Literally spelt out how the game is played m8. If you can't figure that out you don't have the awareness needed for rugby or you're a prop

>>41025329
you sound like a massive douche

>>41025469
Which country do you live in? If the U.K there are so many clubs around, find one that suits you

>>41025491
ok anon, ok.

>>41025494
>>41025480
Southern europe, sorry lads.

>>41025428

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I play in Germany our rugby culture isnt as great/weird as in the typical rugby countries (but still way better than any other sport around here)

>>41025492
He does a little bit

>>41025507
Move country desu

>>41025484
i would have guessed so

>>41025507
I played in germany at heidelberg for a while (on tour, not with their club). Heidelberg had a decent culture actually, a bit of nude streaking here and there.

Sorry you're not a fan of station fruit lad :'-) it bamboozles even the best of us. I'm quite partial to a good game of the witch, the bismarck, bunnies, rifle ranger, and Daddy daddy no.

>>41025522
U.K rugby culture can be fucking strange sometimes, but always top bants

>>41025435
Upper Body yes, Lower Body relatively weak because of back issues I had. I'm now doing SS for a couple of weeks to get my Squat and Deadlift back up. But yeah, overall I'm probably "strong" for my size. Not necessarily by /fit/-standards, but definitely for normies.

>>41025474
Yeah, that's the plan.

>>41025545
What team do you support out of interest?

>>41025491
i was the original "wat?", not that ??? guy.
i understood and i play prop, everyone knows locks are the most stupid

>>41025575
That's a great start anon, you'll have a massive leg up at a social level rugby wise. Make sure to really focus on lower body development especially, getting dat dere speed and power gains

>>41025543
I wish.

>>41025556
I understood none of your references.

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>>41025585
Yeah, but you wouldn't say it to their face

>>41025558
i went on a little tour including a game against the home club of one of our players in england. That was great fun. We have Traditions and Games here too, but we dont go in that deep we have no master or that stuff.

We do stuff together from time to time but i´d wish a drinking evening or a pub crawl or that shit would happen more regularly after games

>>41025585
Nw m8, was just baiting. And yeah locks who aren't lineout masterminds are usually thick as pigshit, and I say this as a back/second row utility.

>>41025558
Top bantz full stop lad. Never stop the bants

>>41025599
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFxMQfySywM this might help with bunnies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnYcRXVVcoI this is the bismarck

On the others I can't help

>>41025634
Very big fan of the bismarck

>>41024721
You need to bulk and build a strength base. Boxing will sure as shit slim you down from all the cardio, but if you have a good strength base you can keep a lot of it even after the cardio takes some mass back off thanks to CNS gains.

>>41025585
im actually taller than the average lock at our club

when you start rugby and are big -> start by playing lock
when youre small -> wing

>>41025633
Make it happen then anon, politely nudge the team towards going out for drinks after matches; you don't have to get plastered, just a few drinks

>>41024141
Play rugby enough and soon enough you'll turn Samoan and leave humanity behind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84eow3VAfF8

>>41025647
Bismarck is top tier. bunnies is god tier when you have the celebrity starts: the ben johnson celebrity start is almost as good as the manchester university girls hockey team one

>>41025647
that seems pretty lame tbqh

>>41025717
It is, I justlike it

>>41025665
ofcourse we always have beers right after, its the norm that the home team hands out atleast one case of beer also bratwurst is mandatory.
I think the culture also depends on the people we have some university students (me included) but the most guys have regular jobs and often wife and kids. So on the occasions where a party isn´t planned long before (season end, christmas party) its always just a few guys.

But damn, it is great to hit the pubs with some guys from our and the opponent team all in shirt and club tie

>>41025245
My Friends and I have a game we call 3/4ths, you can only play it with 1-2 people who are new to the game at a time.
The rules
>you dont explain to them the rules
>every one takes a turn saying a word with 3/4ths before it
>when its the new players turn they are wrong NO MATTER WHAT, dont explain why they are wrong just offer replacement words
>the new players should get frustrated but you need to string them along so take breaks, tell them they got close, if they had said sign post instead of fence post, etc.

Its great, maybe we should start a rugby team

>>41025758
Brilliant idea

>>41025758
Sounds like fun man

>>41025758
Yeah, same principle as station fruit. great game too

We should become imbibations masters of the official /fit/ rugby XV :'-)

>>41025758
We played a game we called "1-2 bam".

>You say "1, 2, bam!" and then everyone shows either the palm or the back of his hand (the one not holding the beer :^)
>whatever is shown by less people, they have to drink
>if it's equal or all the same, everyone has to drink

Or "silent case"

>everyone has a case of beer
>nobody talks until their case is empty
easy mode: 1 case for all

Or "stone"

>take a stone
>drop it
>if it falls, everyone drinks

>>41025845
Class rules

We have the practice of "shoeing". If someone says a statement, and someone else calls it a "false acc", the person who makes the false accusation either has to prove what they said is not false or they have to drink out of their shoe.

Another great one is Roxanne. Forwards stand up and drink on Roxanne, backs do so on Put on the red light.

The VK boat race is another classic. Backs v. Forwards usually.

>>41025874
You're U.K based right anon?

>>41025893
Used to be switzerland, am now Uk, yeah. Good stuff either way. The swiss used to sing "Les anglais sont des homosexuels" to the tune of yellow submarine at me on bus rides back.

>>41025874
we had to come up with other teams than forwards and backs because the backs always lost, it wasn´t even a game anymore

>>41024813
not at all. look at the all blacks, those guys are natural, just train like animals.

i used to go to school with a kid who's just making it into the all blacks now. he was always pretty tough but scrawny...looking at him now after training 5 days a week and lifting, he looks much bigger, but still definitely natural

>>41025903
Here it's "Nous sommes tous des homosexuels"

>>41024141

played in highschool in the US. was the most fun i've had playing a team sport. highly recommended. also made me even more big/shredded than I was.

>>41025911
No way desu, it isn't one of the ioane brothers is it?

>>41025906
I know haha.

>>41025926
I'm Anglo-Swiss and was playing in an open age french rugby team so they made me sing God Save the queen by myself before the entire bus sang les anglais sont des homosexuels at me. A swiss team I played for had les francais sont des homosexuels actually but I'm glad there are some less jingoistic variations out there

Anyone have any good songs? This is one I've translated from when I played in France

The original goes:

La fille du Bedouin
Se Branlait dans un coin
Avec une banane
Et moi dans l’autre coin
En voyant son vagin
Je bandait comme un âne

Translation (not literal as I needed to come up with rhymes)
The Daughter of the Cook
was fucking in the nook
With a big Banana
And, I in the other nook
Seeing how hard she shook
I came on her vagina

These come with special hand gestures. it's great for teaching those who don't necessarily know the rules because you just hum the tune and do the hand gestures, reveal one more line at a time, and go crazy once every line has been revealed.

>>41024543
no sonny, u were so young.

>>41025903
What was the swiss rugby culture like generally anon?

>>41025955
nah mate, Damian McKenzie.

He's got an older brother, Marty McKenzie...also pretty good, just not to make the ABs cut. (plus he missed a couple of penalties and lost us the game against our rivals, lol)

>>41026002
He absolutely lit it up this weekend, ridicolous player. How hard did he destroy at school?

>>41025965
Pretty fun stuff. My club was doing really well at a national level and we played in France too. It was open age and I was a teenager back then so it was tough stuff, lots of big farmer coming in who want nothing to do other than murder you.

Clubs tended to be either more French or more English influenced; mine was far more french. We had a big "wooden" spoon we gave to the biggest fuck up after each game, which held a good 5-6 tinnies. I played a full 80 minutes at hooker for the first match I was actually eligible to (have to be 18 to play in the tight five in open age rugby) despite being a flanker/second row/occasional centre because our first choice hooker had pneumonia and our replacement had to deal with his kid's allergic reaction, and this against the side who were just below us at second in the league. So I played 80 minutes at hooker, did a decent job in the lineout but very hit and miss in the scrums but came out alive, so they gave me man of the match (one can, downed), young player of the match (one can, downed) and the spoon (6 cans, downed) all in one go. Murdered me tbqh senpai.

>>41025492
yeah I'm pretty douchey most of the time

>>41026043
What was your height/weight as a young'un?

>>41025702
OP, the big hits really don't look that bad, I mean compared to football that's a normal thing, I played football for 2 years in highschool and got sick of the niggers on my team, so I switched to lifting

I thought I was gonna get some retarded responses but after this shitfest I know I'm gonna do it, sounds like too much fun not to

>>41026062
186, fluctuated between 85-90 kilos. Decent enough for flanker but fucking hell I am not a hooker for shit unless I go full swiss on the melted cheese and potato dishes for a winter.

>>41026080
Football does tend to have bigger hits than rugby yeah, no denying that.

How much does football hurt anon?

>>41026062
Also had to give up on being a number 8, which was my best position from U14-U18.

>>41025758
Love that idea

>>41026100
God I love number 8, literally GOAT position

>>41026043
I'm gonna be studying for a year in bern my junior year of college, definitely going to join the rugby team there

>>41026095
Pretty bad, I was a linebacker and I had my shit knocked outta me a couple times, plus the practices were a joke with how easy they were, literally 30 minutes of lifting a week, somehow we still had winning records

>>41026121
Number 8 is actually the most patrician position ever. I run the classic 89-15 play like a champ and I'm pretty good at the classic all black 10-12-8 double switch move too. That and great line out skills for mauls and roll around plays meant I saw a lot of first phase set piece ball to rampage in.

>>41026130
Bern's team is not particularly great atm alas, got sent down from the LNA a few seasons ago. Currently bottom of the LNB elite pool as well which is not ideal. Still should be good fun, I think there are quite a few english boys over there if I'm not wrong.

>>41025659
No point in upping a weight class if I can stay at 130 lbs and fight against 5'5'' to 5'7'' guys.

>>41024655
I did that too natty, 17 kg in a year isn't too hard unless you start out at a high bw already and dont just become fat

>>41025911
>look at this guy who was always small but now that he is getting into an amateur league he is blowing up, all natty of course
Do you even hear yourself speak? I mean I don't doubt that he could be natty, never saw him but that's so dumb lol, just assuming someone is natty because he is actually making it and getting into a semi professional range? The opposite would be more likely

>>41026018
He was a great player. His reading of the game was insane. Could tackle the biggest Samoan on the other team every week lol.

My proudest moment in rugby to this day is bumping him off in practice lol

>>41026360
The guy was still fucking ripped though... His physique is fucking joocy to say the least

Ok so I need bulking advice for rugby. I'm 5'7 135 and I struggle with bulking due to a high metabolism. Also loading UPS package trucks doesnt really help as much as I thought it would. How can I bulk up quickly for an upcoming season?

>>41026665
Do I 5000kcal calories drink with peanut butter and milk, eat normally on top of it. Got 10 kg in a month.

>>41026665
>>41026749
Ok so what about a workout regime? I come home kinda tired after work. Whats the best way to balance work and working out?

>>41026827
Workout before work, sucks to start but will definitely help

>>41026855
I mean like, best workouts. Stick with Deadlifts, benchpress, overhead press, squats, pull ups, anything else?

>>41024141

this shit looks fun and dangerous as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-LRqo990jo

>>41024141
Been thinking about getting into rugby too, but honestly it seems like no matter how you slice it, the risk of injury is immensely high compared to just lifting, I don't know, I love lifting so much I just couldn't deal with it being taken away from me for a long time, I hate myself when I miss just one day.

>>41027551
It's one of the best ways of making social gains, implementing cardio and actually being able to show off and use your gains in a meaningful manner by being able to literally pick people up and throw them to the floor.

The risk of injury is overstated unless you're playing to a high standard, and even then you'll see maybe 3 or 4 really bad injuries a season

>>41027597
i wouldn't say injuries are overstated.

maybe major injuries, but after almost every game (provided you're throwing yourself into the ruck and tackle) you'll have some niggle. maybe an ankle, maybe a rib, but you never wake up on monday morning 100%

>>41027773
Yeah, you'll get niggles in any contact sport that's evident, but the misconception for many is that serious injuries like breaks are common, which they aren't

>>41024141
I really want to, but at 24 I'm a bit fucking late to the game, literally

>>41027892
No you aren't, people play into their 50's mate

>>41027892
i started with 23 and i would say im pretty gud. especially outside the classic rugby nations its normal to pick up rugby as adults