DAILY REMINDER TO CUT OUT SUGAR

Literally everyone here drinks nothing but water and black coffee

One teaspoon in my morning coffee. No more, no less.

>>41021186
i even cut that shit out. Coffee without sugar tastes like shit but i am getting used to it. But i just discovered how good tea tastes without fucking sugar.

>>41021170
About 6 teaspoons a day. 2 per coffee, the rest I get from fruits. Most of the stuff I eat is prepped at home.

>>41021190
agree on the tea.
I've been wondering if honey would be an improvement to sweeten coffee.
Drinking black after waking up kinda ruins my morning. Doesn't bother me during the day though.

Any of you put sauces on chicken? Check the sugar on those, youll be surprised

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>>41021170
I've been drinking a bunch of Arizona Sweet tea lately. Just fucking kill me. I need to drink more water and sips

>>41021190
I always thought coffee tasted like shit with sugar.
I need a squirt of cream though.

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>>41021217
I put 0 cal buffalo sauce on my chicken, it has sodium up the ass but it makes chicken breasts taste great

>>41021218
Ice tea is fucking evil. Blew my mind the first time i saw how much sugar is in that shit. And i was drinking 1.5l per day of it

>>41021170
Considering sugar doesn't kill me I drink/consume it every day

>>41021217
>>41021224

> using any sauce other than Frank's Red Hot

Never going to make it

>>41021229
>using sauces
>making it

pick one

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>>41021229
>implying Franks red hot buffalo sauce was what I wasnt talking about

>>41021247
> grammer, not even once

>>41021170
http://natashaskitchen.com/2010/11/06/moms-adjika-recipe-a-russians-pesto/
How unhealthy does this look?

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Peanut butter has some sugar, is it okay?

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>>41021252
>Grammer
Must. Resist. Bait.

>>41021170
im bulking for winter so dont give 2 fucks

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>>41021170
>tfw had 3 Dr. Peppers today
Feels good man

>>41021262
> he fell for the sugar is evil meme

Yeah too much can fuck you up, but in moderation it's fine.

Natural sugars in fruits and nuts are okay

>>41021262
just fucking blend those nuts yourself and dont buy PB from stores. save money and no sugar

>>41021273
fruit juice is just as bad though.

>>41021276
> fruit is only available in juice form

>>41021276
No it isn't.

>inhaling even a single atom of sugar

enjoy overloading your body with estrogens, losing all your gains and turning female

>>41021190
>>41021186
>>41021221
learn how to make coffee properly

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>>41021289
But sugar increases testosterone.

Yeah, let'signore all dietary recommendations put out by experts everywhere on the planet and instead stuff our faces with saturated fat, cholesterol, salt and highly processed animal protein all day every day and then get our knickers in a twist because there is a few grams of sugar somewhere, WOULDN'T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE OUR HEALTH NOW WOULD WE.

Sugarphobia and carbphobia are truly the hallmark of total idiocy. I especially enjoy the arrogance of this retardation.. "Lol I said fructose and insulin, I'm such an expert xD"
The internet was a mistake.

>>41021330
>he puts sugar in his coffee
never gonna make it

>>41021280
its just as bad as drinking coke.

>>41021337
Refined sugar is widely consumed by world-class athletes as well as everyday athletes as a cheap, effective and quickly absorbed source of energy. You would actually have to know nothing at all about sports or nutrition to be scared of sugar. Which makes sense because this is /fit/ after all.

>>41021280
Many fruit juices have more sugar by volume than sodas. And no fiber to help you digest it. I work in a restaurant and it has always driven me nuts when parents wont let their kids have soda but they let them get lemonade or apple juice.

>>41021177
>yankees
>not drinking green tea with sliced lemon for vitamin c and general health benefits

Never gonna make it

>>41021190
>Coffee without sugar tastes like shit

Buy some decent coffee then

>>41021307
>carbs
>sugar
>same thing

pick uno

>>41021347
Who here are world-class athletes you fucking sperg

>>41021262
No, it would kill you instantly on its own, luckily it's counterbalanced by the 800 fat calories per teaspoon which are really really good for you.

>>41021177
drinking black coffe right now

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>>41021170
Why didn't they complete the pyramid for the can?

>>41021456
fuck didnt even think about that. I guess its just to fuck with us

>>41021170
itt: morons who think sugar is bad for them

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i was trapped at my mothers mouse for a week, and i didn't bring any water with me, and only thing she had was coke and grape pop.

it was my first time drinking a pop in like 3 months.

on the bright side, i still hate pop

>>41021289
>existing on the same physical plane as sugar

Enjoying blowing up to 8x your original size in fat while your mantits grow 25x in size and you start cumming out of them on a constant basis because your own penis is fucking you

>>41021510
just drink tap water dude. Bottled water is the biggest scam there is.

>>41021170
Yeah i do. I consume a lot of sugar. Sugar is in my blood. I drink 2-3 red bulls daily,0,5 bottle of coke,eat a lot of sweet stuff.But i drink tea without sugar

>>41021386
Have you EVER seen the Olympics? The Tour de France? Athletes drink sugar water all the time, they also get sugar into their blood via skin patches and any other available means. It's all sugar sugar sugar because nothing gives you better performance and faster recovery than refined sugar. It also improves insulin sensitivity which is what you want

>>41021190

>He hasn't cut out caffiene yet

Sorry but you're still a pleb

>>41021581
>People burning multiple thousands of calories a day need to replenish them as efficiently as possible

damn better start putting sugar in my water or I'll never get to their level.

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>>41021216
I hate honeyed tea because I drank a lot when I was sick as a kid. Makes me puke almost.

>unsweetened tea with an occasional touch of lemon juice however is pic related for me

>>41021525
Where else am I gonna get natural Spring water?!

>>41021354
what is phytochemicals

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>>41021380
Really makes you think.

>>41022022
>human is the same thing as carbon since it contains it as one of its elements

Are you clinically retarded?

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>>41021170
ex spooky skeleton here
soda is the shittiest way to get calories. and diet soda is autistic, but sugar isnt a bad thing. milk has sugar, fruit has sugar.

>>41022022
makes you think what? that you know anything about chemistry or biology? that you found a picture on the internet and now you know how starches are broken down? kill yourself

>>41021225
>Ice tea

First, its iced tea.

Second, you don't have to drink it with sugar. It tastes much better without!

>>41022043
Wow I got BTFO. I guess sugars aren't carbs now.

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>>41022022
Wait, are you genuinely under the impression that sugar(s) are the same as carbs because the body breaks both down into dextrose?

Wew, american education in action lads

>>41022268
subset of != same thing

Nice backpedal WHILE carrying the goalpost.

>>41022303
are you literally retarded

Somewhat related, even though I don't have a kid and may not have one any time remotely soon.

But how would you deal with your kids and sugar? I imagine it's not a great idea to keep them away from sugar entirely, not sure how much you'd moderate it. My parents never moderated my sugar intake, luckily I never got fat and now I can make the decision on my own to cut all unnecessary sugar out (soda, sweets, sugar in coffee, etc) but this seems like a 50/50 chance whether you'll end up with a hambeast offspring

>>41022317
Are you?

>>41022332
nah

>>41021177
Capuccino is better and contributes to your GOMAD intake

>>41022344
No sugar tho

>>41022323
I caught the flipside, my parents never moderated my sugar intake and I was a fat fuck all the way from kindergarten to 8th grade.
I only started enjoying sports when I turned 17. It makes me sad to think how I missed the chance of having fun and playing football and shit with other kids because I was a fat fuck.
Whenever I see a fat kid I feel pity because they don't know what they're missing out on.

>Drinking anything but water/milk
Never gonna make it


I don't eat refined sugar but instead I gobble down about 6 pieces of fruit a day

>>41021177
drink water, coffee, and smoothies, except im not afraid to put dairy in any of it because im not a fat fuck

>>41022323
Obese children generally have an excessively high fat intake that creates and sustains their obesity. Sugar is not the problem. It just happens to be the case that these types of parents are nutritionally illiterate and pass their lack of understanding to their children, so they grow up to think that donuts, chocolate and ice cream are primarily sugar (when they are, of course, primarily fat). On a population level, this creates what is known as the USA

>>41022303
Please stop.

>>41021177
Only on the run. If I can I'll put in Splenda and half&half.

>>41022445
The average obese child eats very little in the way of actual dietary fat in the western world.
It's basically all simple sugars and lack of activity.

>>41022650
No.
Learn what words mean.

>>41021177
I literally have a cup of black coffee and a few bottles of water next to me right now.

I've started drinking seltzer with the goal of completely eliminating soft drinks from my diet.

Unfortunately I'm 18 and live at home (will be moving out soon) and my mom keeps buying soda.

I think through seltzer I've realized that what I'm addicted to is the carbonation.

>>41022765
Drink tap water you mong.

"My mom keeps buying soda."

Stop drinking it. Are you retarded?

>>41022696
>The average obese child eats very little in the way of actual dietary fat in the western world.
Are you aware that believing and saying things does not make them true? It's very obvious that you have never looked at the actual data. That's a problem

>>41022784
>implying I don't drink water also

Also, it's extremely tempting to grab a soda when you're cutting and your stomach is restless.

>>41021177
THIS

You don't need protein shakes or energy drinks, shit is bad.

Reminder that fruits are perfectly fine and healthy. Cut refined sucrose.

>>41022821
Okay then.
Post it.

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>>41021177
>coffee
Never gonna make it bruh. Black tea and water it is.

>>41021170

>amerifats drinking cola

it's crazy how far gone americans are. lived in the US as a child and I was drinking a bottle a day. america should promote water and tea much more

also

>europeans and americans think they are drinking proper tea
>"proper tea" in their eyes means teabags

hahahaha, it's always funny how people think they know what tea is if they have actually never been to asia. forget your "health benefits" if you are using tea bags from supermarkets

>all these faggots giving up all sugar
>giving up fruits
Jesus christ /fit/ how fucking retarded are you

>>41022823
You're pathetic. Get out.

>>41023218
>you can't plant shit at home to make your teas if you're not in asia

>>41022445
>Obese children generally have an excessively high fat intake that creates and sustains their obesity. Sugar is not the problem
Fat people are fat because they eat a fuckton of calories

You can eat 10k calories of fat or 10k calories of sugar and both will make you the same level of fucking fat

>>41022323
You give it in moderation and teach them why you limit their consumption

Literally point to a fat kid and say "this is you on sugar"

>>41023246
No, but, you see, fruit sugar is OK sugar -- unless it's Monsanto fruits, then that's bad sugar.

Sugar > sugar, OK?

What's the deal with sugar in fruit? Why is it suddenly 'pure sugar' if you juice it and drink it, or blend it up in a smoothie?
What if you eat it whole but chew it for ages until it's basically been blended? What if you swallow it in in-tact chunks?

>>41022323

You can control your child's diet completely, just don't buy sugary things for them. If all else fails tell the school/other parents that they have an allergy and not to give them whatever food you don't like.

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>>41023297

>What's the deal with sugar in fruit?

IS IT SUGAR OR IS IT FRUIT?
HELLOOOOOOOO?

>>41023258

>implying you can grow proper tea at home

what the fuck are you even talking about? you have to be retarded if you think that you can grow proper and especially good tasting tea at home. you must be american

>>41023263
It's far more easy to eat those calories with simple sugars and preprocessed pseudo sugars.
Fat, even in shit junkfood is more satiating and it will be pretty hard to eat that much unless they are morbidly obese already.

>>41021177
>forgetting sips

>>41023297
Juice is bad because the sugar gets absorbed a lot faster and you get the insulin spike you want to avoid. Also effectively removes the fiber and some other phytonutrients I forgot the names of. Just eat your fruits like a normal person.

>>41021190

imagine being this addicted to sugar that you can't drink coffee without it

>>41023353
100 grams of peanut butter is about 65 sugar cubes going calorie for calorie.
Which do you think is easier to overeat?

>fruit sugar is bad
>fruit sugar is good

who do i believe

>>41023420
Fruits are good, fructose from other sources is shit.

>>41023420
Try getting fat on apples, we'll wait.

Nobody should be allowed to post again before watching this
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1amh2t_bbc-horizon-sugar-v-fat-h264-1280x720-aac-rmac_lifestyle

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>>41023410
A visual aid for the SI-illiterate.

>>41023497
Never seen this but if the tl;dr isn't "shit sugary foods and shit fatty foods are both bad" it's worthless.

>>41021216
1 tea spoon of honey gives insuline spike equal to fun sized snickers bar

>>41023513
How many children do you see eating spoonfulls of peanut butter?
I'm not being a dick about it I'm being serious.

It's litterally adults and women that are gorging on that stuff.

Children don't tend to eat like entire jars of or just huge spoonfulls of peanut butter.
It's the simple addicting sugars and whatever trashy sugar(and fat because together they are a powerfully addicting mixture) pumped fastfood that's been shilled to them.

>>41023537
>How many children do you see eating spoonfulls of peanut butter?

I did if there was nothing else around the house.

>>41023518
Bullshit. They have the same glycemic index but a snickers bar is a lot bigger and hence creates a way bigger spike. You need to look at the glycemic load too.

Honey GI 55 1 tbsp (21g) Netcarbs 17 GL 9

Snickers Bar GI 55 1 bar (113g) Netcarbs 64 GL 35

>>41023513
>implying all calories are created equal
>implying that different foods don't have different bioavailabilities as well

My sweet, sweet summer child

>>41023516
The tldr is: High-fat diet almost made the one twin diabetic, high-sugar diet had no negative effects, both lost weight without counting calories but keto dude lost more muscle, and only the combination of sugar and fat promotes overeating calories by circumventing satiety mechanisms which leads to obesity.

>>41023596
Well actually the high-sugar diet made him more insulin-sensitive so if anything it improved his health

>>41023596
Thanks, I'll watch it anyway because I have time and boredom. The high sugar guy must be a bit of a special case, I don't really believe eating sugary junk food (that's devoid of fat) is "healthy". They just said he is allowed unlimited fruits/vegetables so that might be the explanation, if you cut all plant foods of course your body will get sick. Fat guy probably had a dozen deficiencies at the end.

>>41023596
Give me a list of what went into their diets and if they exorcised.
I'm curious.

>>41022323

My family limited fast food to special occasions. We only ever went on a special day, like after a trip to the zoo or something (translation: mum too knackered to cook), so it always ended up being a little adventure of finding a random fast food restaurant in an unfamiliar neighbourhood, and nothing about it felt 'every day'.

Sweets, we'd eat as we pleased at birthday parties and shit, but never kept any around the house. Cakes, once we were in double digits a kitchen-certified, if we wanted one we could damn well baked it ourselves, no such thing as shop-bought.
I always thought it was fucking bizarre that my friend down the street always happened to have a coke in the fridge, I just figured they must have a lot of parties lol. I always worried I was spoiling a special occasion if she opened a fresh bottle on my account, like how sitcom characters talked about special bottles of wine.

If you just pretend it's normal, your kid won't know the difference. And if you let it be special, it's never "you can't have this cool thing," it's always "today is special, let's treat ourselves to this cool thing." So every day they lack it isn't "boring, lacking" it's just "normal."

When I was a teenager and got a lot more freedom to buy junk on a whim, I did pork up a bit, but that was just growing pains of learning to be responsible with my choices. The novelty eventually wears off.
I will say though, while I wouldn't have listened to anyone directly telling me what to do (because 'adults are dumb and just don't get it,') a bit of agendaless education on nutrition at that age would have helped a lot in letting me skip the "swap out coke for fruit juice" mistakes.
School "tried", but it was just demoralising, nonsensical broscience that basically boiled down to "don't become anorexic on our watch, just keep doing whatever you're doing until you graduate. If you have excess fat, maybe you're just a fat person. HAES, everyone's beautiful, pls no bully."

>>41023380
>Also effectively removes the fiber
That's the bit I don't get. Is that just in terms of fruit juice, where the pulp's all gone, or does that apply to smoothies too where it's blended? That's where the chewing thing confuses me, because isn't that the same thing?

>Just eat your fruits like a normal person.
Yeah I do, I'm just curious is all.

>>41021177
>black coffee
my love. Is there something better? Alcohol doesn't even compare.

>>41023646
I'm watching it right now (at minute 5 so might be incomplete)
Sugar dude: bread, pasta, fruits, vegetables, bagels, rice, cereals, soda
Fat dude: eggs, cheese, meat, cream, mayo, burgers

They show a table of food and fat dude has chocolate on his side which is bad for the result and he's allowed burgers which also have quite some sugar.

>>41023698
As far as I'm aware high-fat dude did not eat overt carbohydrates, only bunless burgers. After all the dietician said he will have bad breath (keto breath)

>>41023698
Veggies don't have that many carbs compared to fruit. So it's kind of cheating.

And why didn't the fat guy eat nuts?

This is kinda shit.

Are heavily sugarized drinks like energy drinks and cola good for bulking if you're a skelly?

>>41023682
I'm not a biochem scientist so I might have some misconceptions but if I got it right the health promoting important phytonutrients are bound to the fiber so when you blend your fruits/vegetables they get lost. If you buy pure juice (the good pure juice, often they add even more sugar and other shit) there's also no fiber so it really isn't beneficial at all.

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>>41023313
>If I put sugar in my tea, does that make it fruit-tea? Maybe we should just start putting grapes in our morning coffee, "here you go, sir, would you like one lump or two?" And what does that make wine? First they say a glass a day is healthy, but you also need two serves of fruit, how does that work out? Is beer technically a serving of grain? Because you know, those are supposed to cover half the plate. Alcohol, it's the new fad diet. Swap out your potato chips for a fifth of vodka. Blue sunglasses? Try beer goggles, now everybody's got a beach body.

>>41023758
No, the fiber and nutrients are still there, well what's left after you remove the important fiberous and nutrient filled skin from certain fruit that is.
The vitamins and what not go nowhere, even if the fiber is pulped in the blending process.

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Easter is approaching though!

Time to pork out on all that sweet sugar-laden chocolaty goodness!

>>41023798
Well if you look at the label of many juices they say there is no fiber. So depending on what you buy even that might be lost. Sure you'll still get some nutrients but at that point you might as well eat a vitamin pill and cut the sugar. Damn I knew I should have saved the sources when I looked it up some time ago.

>>41023750
No they are shit.

>>41023850
Why? They have a lot of calories.

>>41021263
>>41021252
Kek

>>41023856
Empty shit calories yeah. You want to bulk and stay healthy right? Just cook bigger portions or add another meal.

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but I want to be brappy and thicc you wont make it

>>41023832
Oh you're right. But fruit smoothies with the pulp and the like? The nutrients and fiber are actually still there.

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>>41021170
I'm drinking tons of soda and there's nothing you can do to stop me

>>41023951
Goes back to the mentioned phytonutrients. Did a quick search and found one about apples and apple juice. Apparently it's about important polyphenols that are bound to the fiber and lost during processing/blending. Even if you blend at home you destroy most of the fiber and thus those nutrients. Still pretty fine if you don't exclusively do so.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23271615
>CONCLUSIONS: Apples are rich in polyphenols and pectin, two potentially bioactive constituents; however, these constituents segregate differently during processing into juice products and clear juice is free of pectin and other cell wall components. We conclude that the fibre component is necessary for the cholesterol-lowering effect of apples in healthy humans and that clear apple juice may not be a suitable surrogate for the whole fruit in nutritional recommendations.

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>>41023897
>and stay healthy
yeah sure, that's what it's all about

that's why people never roid and always focus on cardio as well

>>41024122
Let morons be morons. I'm just trying to give him the best advice, after all it's /fit/ - Fitness and not /fit/ - Strength.

>>41021177
Green tea and whole milk shakes here nigga.

>Cut out sugar

How about people just moderate instead?

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>>41021177
Uuuhhhhh...

>>41024368
There really isn't a downside to cutting sugar down. Quality of life could be one thing but eating a bit of chocolate every once in a while is fine.

Side note if you cut all sugar you will stop craving it after some time and you'll taste sweetness in foods you thought were bland or not sweet at all before.

>>41021170

I try to minimize it as much as I can, but I do enough cardio that I don't sweat it too much if my food has sugar in it. In general I don't drink anything with sugar in it.

>>41024491
The sweetest chocolate is 50% calories from fat.
Breaking news, Americans still blame sugar for the negative effects of high-fat foods

>>41022323
When I was younger (about 11-15yo) I was drinking 2 litres of soda everyday and I was extremely underweight

>>41024867
It's pretty 50/50 sugar and fat with a bit of protein. Which is the main problem, both together.

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I've been putting cinnamon and ginger in my coffee, tastes pretty gud

>>41021177
LITERALLY was sipping black coffee while reading this. Also a few empty water bottles and La Croix cans.

>>41021525
>just drink tap water dude
Most places far from a large body of water have near-poisonous groundwater and groundwater smells and tastes like complete shit anyway. I wouldn't even use it to make coffee.

>>41024882
Same here, though I'd mainly just eat school lunches which kept my caloric intake low.

>>41021177
Nippon green tea is where it's at lad

>>41021190
Four green tea bag left to stand is bitter asf, but good at the same time.

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>>41023800
>implying people on /fit/ even celebrate or eat chocolate on Easter.

>>41021221
Cream is actually good. Caffeine binds to fat and it gives you good energy. Ketofag here