/Fraud/ steroids general

>>40979928
>>40979928

Intelligence leads you to thinking you know everything when wisdom is the path to knowing you have so much more to learn edition.

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what's up brainlets?

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121214143025.htm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3608708/

hmm seems like every source that isn't some steroid forum seems to think steroids will make you retarded. really gets my neurons firing: I can't name one intelligent person who uses them, other than athletes on HGH. if you disagree, try naming a few people in STEM who use steroids without resorting to anecdotes. you can't. and don't say "oh I trade intelligence for strength, opportunity cost" because pic related is a natty guy who works out and still has time to teach math.

>>40980008
hmm I wonder why the non aas using group is so undersampled/why the aas using group is so oversampled

>>40980008
You really have no idea what you're talking about

>>40980008
>he thinks that guy is natty

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>>40980008
>gay press exclusive

>>40980008
gains>brains faggot

>>40979928
is it better to start juicing closer to your "genetic max" or doesnt it even matter

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>>40979398
Was this skepta's verse in a new Drake song?

>>40980008
yeah "fitness model" and "natty" doesn't go on the same sentence unless there is a "are not" between them.
also if you are really smart you will lift and probably see that test isn't harmful as media tell it is

You guys take any preworkout? I love the shit. Goes great with the sdrol pumps.

On the days where I don't use PWO I usually think about how I'll never reach my full potential as a human being and how I'll never be the successful person my parents wanted me to be. It really helps get the blood pumping. The sweating from it can get a little crazy, but it helps to hide my tears. It's pretty intense and helps with focusing especially with the negatives in your life. Anyone else?

Natty fag here. Is putrid sweat a sign of steroid use? There are 2 guys at my gym whose sweat smells fucking terrible and I frequently wonder if it's because of roids? I know for a fact one of them is on roids but the other one I'm not sure about (he's old and strong but a has like 25% bf). You can tell they were at the gym before you even 30 minutes after they leave because of that terrible stench.

>>40980460
Putrid sweat is a sign of poor hygiene and perhaps body chemistry

Steroids can change body chemistry but it's not always deterministic;

Short answer: NO

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>>40980441
I take my orals pre with Viagra and Cialis plus some carbs and coffee

>>40980460
I notice a slight difference but they're probably just gross

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>>40980460
Okay, I'll tell you my secret, for nattys, to find out if a guy is on steroids. Catch him when he's in the locker room. Watch for anything unusual when he interacts with his locker. Right when he's changing his clothes after his sweaty workout, tell him you want to compare your penises. Most likely his will be an inch or three larger than yours. Go ahead an kiss him and take a large swath of his saliva back into your mouth. Then spit onto his dick with the mixture of your/his saliva, and kiss the tip. Then have him lay down on the bench, and take it from there, boy. Make sure to show him a good time, he works out very hard. As he's pounding your ass, if he cums more than 3 times in your creamy colon, then he's definitely on steroids.

Hoped that helped! :)

>>40980460
no
t. had putrid sweat when I was natty
it's more to do with diet and hygiene

Im looking to start a second cycle. its been 2 years since the first test only cycle.

What would the ideal stack be? Im considering running tren and an oral to kickstart.

Any suggestions welcome

>>40980008
Math degrees are nothing more than going to University and doing the required reading for 3 years while understanding logic

I have a double major in CS and Math and honestly SOME of the math classes felt supplementary to some of the crazy shit Computational Science has you learning.

>>40980418
>If I were really smart I would risk my intelligence to find out if I'm still smart

>Be any person with medical background
>Don't use steroids

What do you guys do to counter test flu?

>>40980630
never had it

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>>40980513
That explains why all the dyel twinks want a piece of this. They're just trying to reveal my power level. Fuck, and I thought they genuinely wanted to be (n-no homo) buttbros. I need a moment now :(

>>40980643
Yeah me neither after bncing for about 8 months, but now when i injected 375mg yesterday, which is about the same which I've done before. It swole and now my delt is rock hard and hurts, no red spots or anything like that though. Just overall feeling very shitty, bones hurt, headaches, dizzyness, etc...

>>40980630
>What do you guys do to counter test flu?
Is like 24 hour. Don't be pussy. Make muscle.

I wanted eggs so bad today but I got home from the gym and had to eat something and my mom couldn't cook eggs and so I ate graham crackers and peanut butter.

For dinner I only have room for 160 kcals of fish and 75 kcals of broccoli

Fuark

>>40980575
lmao

>>40980889
100% troll or the dbol he had was flintstones gummies

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>>40980008
Well there's this guy. STEM PhD.

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>>40980884
>and my mom couldn't cook eggs and so

>>40979928
How about a /fraud/ thread with only source talk

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>>40980911
yeah probably. I just had some tremendous keks reading through that thread.

>>40980884
>

>>40980008
>read book
>I GOT BRAINS NOW Xd! su smurt!

>>40979928
>mfw I've made more gains with creatine and a decent diet than I did with any SARM

>>40979928
Trying to put on some significant mass on my legs and back, I was thinking of running an Anadrol + Dbol cycle.

Any thoughts? Maybe some brief dosage recommendations for someone who's never done AAS?

>>40981192
Read the steroids wiki

>>40981245
No one posted it?

>>40981192
>>40981249
>oral only cycle
>too lazy to use google
You're a fucking moron.

Im currently on a cruise of 150 mg test E ew and am planning on going on a 2 week vacation in may. I only long ester test I can get my hands on is Decanoate but I dont know much about it other than it having a roughly month long release rate, a half life of 15 days and terminal half life of 7.5 days and its only 62% of the actual hormone. So if im taking 300mg of Test E at rating of 70% during a 2 week test that gives me 210mg of test so would I have to take 340mg of Test Decanoate?

Also how do I go about switch esters with out causing a major spike and or crash or do I just inject the test dec on my last scheduled pin day before my trip?

>>40981278
Well obviously I would run Test E in addition, I thought that was a given

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~1.5g tren e EW .5mg caber ED

Let's gooooooooooo.

>>40981586
that sounds just ridiculous enough to work

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>>40981722
Well it's been working so I guess.

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>>40981586
Jesus that's a lot of fucking tren

I'm on 200mg a week test e
300 week tren e and getting crazy good results, it was my fist tren run and I was scared though lol. Only one scared now is my wife, fuck my dick is diamonds 24/7 on this shit

>>40981753
it should be at that dose. aren't you the anon with fistfuls of mDHT and other stuff on top of it? mirin dedication

somewhat related question, how is that much (in comparison) caber treating you? I guess you need it but that would probably wreck me

>>40981586
I know we can source gear but caber might be ok? Where you get your shit at? I hear terrible things about rc caber and it's not easy to find pharma grade, and rc companies put out good caber?

So Clenbuterol isn't natty?
Anyone use it? How effective is it? Also the legality of it seems like a gray area

Will it help if I'm fat on a cut but lifting heavy 4x a week? I've made great progress, down 90lbs, but I think this will really help push my last 30lbs without losing my gains.

>>40981832
No. It's trash.

>>40981836
Why?

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>>40981769
>aren't you the anon with fistfuls of mDHT and other stuff on top of it?
Yeah.

>>40981782
>caber might be ok
Well it's legal so I guess so. Indian pharmacies usually have it. I got it from a Turkish one.

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>>40981832
> 120lb cut

>>40981897
Its a shit stim that dries you out if you already ripped. Other than that the sides and quickly building tolerance make it worthless.

I'm 19 and 5'8.
Should I take HGH or are there major side effects that are going to fuck me over for the rest of my life?

>>40982053
I started at 310lbs man. 38% bf.
I'm at ~220lbs and 24% now.

>>40982073
Should I stick to an ECA stack then? I haven't tried ECA but it seems highly recommended.

>>40982090
You should learn how to eat properly.

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Will a clinic give me testosterone

I'm LOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>40982151
>TSH 6.9

RIP ur thyroid

>>40982148
Yes, I have, that's how I lost 90lbs friendo. Obviously if I was going to do clen or an ECA stack I'd do it with a proper and healthy diet, not use it as an excuse to eat like shit.

>>40982175
>clen or an ECA stack
>thinking these are comparable

>ECA
>A

LMAO

>>40982151
nope

>>40982169
My was over 7 but when we took more bloods everything was normal..

>>40982181
Clen is obviously a lot stronger and potentially dangerous. The A is still good if you're a fatass like myself and the EC will help with appetite and a smaller amount of thermogenesis than clen, but without common side effects.

They're still comparable, even if one is infinitely more potent.

>>40982090

Don't even bother asking for advice on this general, man. If you're over 15%, everyone just chimps out about you being fat and ignores your question.

Ask Reddit instead, they'll actually try to help. No guarantees on them actually knowing what they're talking about, though.

>>40982201
>The "effective dosage" at which aspirin was added to the EC stack was at 325 mg 3 times a day
>Doses of 1,000 mg per day of aspirin caused gastrointestinal symptoms and bleeding that, in some cases, were clinically significant. In the largest postinfarction study (the Aspirin Myocardial Infarction Study (AMIS) with 4,500 people), the percentage of incidences of gastrointestinal symptoms for the aspirin (1,000 mg of a standard, solid-tablet formulation) and placebo-treated subjects, respectively, were stomach pain (14.5%, 4.4%), heartburn (11.9%, 4.8%), nausea and/or vomiting (7.6%, 2.1%), hospitalization for GI disorder (4.9%, 3.5%). In the A.I. and other trials, aspirin-treated patients had increased rates of gross gastrointestinal bleeding.

>>40982080
The downside with GH is it makes your penis grow too long and thick it starts to hurt women

>>40982243
not if you're over 13 breh

>>40982237
The layout of reddit hurts my eyes, it's so fucking ugly and difficult to read. I was trying to read information there but damn it's awful.
I figured /fraud/ was just a circle jerk, saw as /owg/ and /plg/, but I wanted to try anyways.

>>40982238
I'd be doing baby aspirin anyways.

>>40982090
dinitrophenol

>>40982300
DNP seems scarier than clen.

>>40982313
because it actually works

but I mean.. if you aren't man enough...

>>40982151
The urologist I work for would give you a script.

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>>40982550
I'm going through Defy Medical at the moment, they want me to call and schedule a phone consultation but looking at my blood results it looks to be a liver problem so I don't want to get cucked out of $250 just to have him tell me to take some vitamins or a thyroid pill and then come back in 3 months.

Though I've heard only good things about Defy so maybe I should be more hopeful.

>>40982550
>537 ng/dl total test
>script
nope.jpg

just gotta find out why his free test is cucked, but that's definitely not getting a script for trt

>flexing, look 10% bf
>unflexed, look 20% bf

>>40982151
Under 35?
Probably No - They will assume you have used before.
got same issue, going to see an endo soon, with the same worry as
>pay 300
>please meditate
>come again
>300 again

>>40982670
Goodnight boyo

>>40982622
I know for a fact it definitely would

>>40982576
If it is a place known for TRT, you're good.

>>40979928
>tfw just found out my test is 243 ng/dl
fugg
At least I know why I feel so terrible.
What kind of test should I ask the endocrinologist for?

>>40982732
Total Testosterone
Bioavailable testosterone (aka Free and Loosely Bound)
Free Testosterone
SHBG
DHT
Estradiol (specify “sensitive” assay for males)
LH
FSH
Prolactin
Cortisol
Thyroid Panel (complete)
PSA ( age dependent)
CBC
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
Lipid Panel
Vitamin D

~$200

>>40980578
You're trying to tell me that there are potential medical problems caused by steroids? Holy fuck, Anon, I didn't know that, I didn't fucking know that. I bet no one in this entire thread knew that, except you, of course. Thank you, Anon. Now I can truly disregard roids, based on this ass shattering information you have provided. Before I was blind, now I truly see

>>40982750
no I mean what kind of testosterone for trt.
isn't there cyp and somethi ng else?

Friend gave me a 30 day supply of Clomid he didn't need anymore

Is there any downside to taking 25mg a day just for the hell of it

>>40982773
just some minor blindness

>>40982750
Not the guy who asked but another <200Ng/dl test person
Thanks for the list, gonna see if i can get my endo to do this.
got any suggestions how ask the Endo to get these tests done for me so that i dont look like i want to abuse for bodybuilding?

>>40982947
Get it done through a private medical lab instead.

>>40982947
>>40982732
to the people with low test, did you have any hint at all that you had low test beforehand? little muscle development/body hair?

>>40982947
if your test is under that range then you should not have to convince and endocrinologist to give you shots/t cream/whatever

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>>40983357
I have severe brain fog. I think my test crashed when I took Levaquin, an antibiotic. I have depersonalization/derealization and some fatigue.
every day is hell. If more testosterone doesn't help then I'll probably just kill myself desu

>>40983375
but, do you have chest hair?

and muscles?

>>40983375
That's very unlikely to be caused by testosterone.

>>40983382
lots of chest hair. no muscles really
>>40983392
I don't think you know what you are talking about but ok

>>40983403
That sounds way more like a mental disorder than low testosterone. All the problems in your life aren't caused by hormones.

>>40983435
fuck you NORMIE

>>40983442
Yeah go see a psychiatrist, not an endocrinologist.

>>40983484
Bullshit man, test will truly enhance your mental health. I feel so good on test you have no fucking idea. If he so were to still feel bad he could always visit a psychiatrist whilst on test

Faggot

>>40983375
I don't know about what caused your drop, but my shit was kind of like that, I was only down to 325ng/dl and seriously considered 1rm neck stretches on a daily basis, before my test went down I was an active happy dude, I self prescribed trt and I have my life back, my test was down from a chronic back injury and opiod use, I don't take any anymore, and my back is better from all the time in the gym, a year ago I wanted to put a bullet in my head and there doc wanted to make me have surgery, now I'm back to being happy and pulling 600lbs in my deads. Moral of the story get your shit checked

someone help me out here, I did a short cycle like 6 months ago and now I got my testosterone checked to see how the roids affected my natty levels, but my free testosterone actually went up from 14ng to 16 ng,


wtf how is this possible

>>40983686
This isn't uncommon.

>>40979928
how do you guys keep your heart strong?

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>>40980513
I am troubled by the erection this gave me.

>>40983701
will my levels permanently be slightly elevated?

also my total test is slightly down but which one matters more?


also my prolactin is high what should I do about that? just lose fat and eat healthier?

Kek Trump is literally getting us into a war as we shitpost.

Explain why you fags aren't at Daytona Beach right now getting hammer drunk with thousands of college cheerleaders

>>40983760
wat?

i pay no attention to this shit so i am assuming its more bullshit drama and exaggeration by faggots with no lives so they have to pretend any of this matters

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>>40983760
ASSAD CHOKED OUT THE LIVES OF MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN

MANY

MANY

BEAUTIFUL BABIES WERE CRUELLY MURDERED IN THIS BARBARIC ATTACK

NO CHILD OF GOD SHOULD EVER SUFFER THIS HORROR

>>40983776
because it's the middle of a college semester and it's not even summer?

>>40983782
He just sent 60 missiles to Syria prepare ur angus

>>40983803
oh wow oh no 60 missiles went to some country full of sand niggers less intelligent than dogs, that's sure gonna affect us in our pampered 1st world safe haven

you would never even know this shit happened unless you read it on the news retard, it will never affect you and you dont matter

>>40983789
>child of god
None of them even named thorisdottir or odinson

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>>40983818
Syria is a Russian ally

The west vs Russia + China is here

Start buying canned foods and building your bunker

>>40983789
Fuck them all. Nuke em all. Savages.
One less Muslim is a blessing.
Sage

>>40983833
ok keep getting "excited" over media shit like this to purposefully distract yourself from the fact that you are wasting your shit life

>>40983789
Trip on cap.

>>40983795
NCA Nationals comes once a year

3 day long party on the beach

Get some

>>40983818
yeah, nothing went wrong following the iraq war...

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> girl i'm fucking comes over
> on period, bj only
> been thinking about it all day
> get naked, sit on edge of my bed
> make her get on her knees on the floor, place hands in lap
> choking, gagging, coughing, drooling
> grab fistfuls of hair and jam her head down on my cock as hard as i can
> her lipstick is smeared all over like a clown and mascara is running
> finally, make her close her mouth so i can shoot a huge 2daysofnofap nut i've been saving all over her face and eye
> she is more pleased with this activity than i am
like, where do you even go from here? once you fulfill your wildest throatfucking fantasies with someone.. it's like there's nothing left. only abandonment and pursuit of new pussy. i liked it better when i still had sexual fantasies i fapped to that were aspirational goals.
> when i was a boy, my mom once told me that astronauts get terribly depressed when they come back from the moon
> confused, i asked how come.
> she said because there was nothing left for them to conquer

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>>40979928
ANYONE ELSE SEE DIS VID?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edHFVoOmS24

About 2 weeks into 30mg dbol/ed, 500mg test c/w, 0.25mg adex/eod, I started to feel those fookin shin and calf pumps especially when TRYING to run. Was super horny too at the third week but now at my 4th my libido is low, I feel like my dbol gains stopped even though the pumps at gym are still real. No appetite. No good mood. No calf pump or pain.. I think/ i hope/ i know its low e2 right? I havent taken adex for 4 days now and the goddamn calf pumps are back and I generally started to feel a lot better. I can only get my bloods done next week on friday but I am scared of possible gyno if no AI till then.

>>40984718
Could be low estrogen, maybe switch to e3d.

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>spend all day in group chat with namefriends
>haven't checked in with anonfriends in a while

How is everyone?
Tren and EQ have finally arrived
Settled on 50/50 drol dbol
ODed and went to hospital but clean again
Lat injury

3/10 week

>>40984743
Oh and I sweat like a motherfucker while asleep and mostly wake up to a soaked pillow and bed. Will do e3d until I can run some more tests.

>>40980008
And why if you already retarted

Oh man i can't imagine the cringe he had to go trough to search for those pics. LOOK HE HAS IT BETTER THAN YOU, doesn't matter it isn't me, because he is better


>>40984755
Looks good, mirin actually

>>40984635
Had this exact feel last weekend. Took this girl home after work (work at a bar). Fucked her face, amazing head, begging me to slap her and choke her, spank her, everything. She was calling me daddy.

Fucked her for a bit then got her on her knees and came on her face. She's a whore and I don't want anything to do with her anymore. Like I don't even wanna smash again. I just feel like I've done everything with her and I was honestly disgusted by her afterwards.

On to the next m8


Also
>how to increase libido

pls respond

>>40984755

Kahuna you gotta stay clean bro heroin eats gains like nothing else.

Anyways how do you like test+tren+deca stack?

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>>40984755

Is it easy to keep up gains while doing drugs? 700-800mg weekly its up and down a bit.

Week 4 Test E
Laugh at me

>>40981319
Bumping this

If I'm gonna blast n cruise does it really matter how strong I am when I start?

>>40986112

No, only how strong you want to be. I enjoy moving past 1/2/3/4 now that its somewhat easier.

Don't roid with no base, its like gassing a nissan with premium and expecting it to run a ferarri level of performance.

If pinning test e at 250mg weekly, is it smarter to pin all 250mg once s week, or break it to 125mgs and pin twice? Running with tren 75mg, cabaser and arimidex at hand

>>40986138
Twice a week for sure. Why such low tren?

>>40986132
would you class 1/2/3/4 for reps as a base?

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>dnp cycle is finished already for 5 days
>still on 150mg winstrol and 40mg superdrol
>appetite/palette is still fucked

I'm not in the mood to eat anything outside of chocolate milk and maybe sandwiches with tons of mustard.

I'm guessing it's the superdrol that might be fucking with my tastes now? I know dnp does this too but it's effects are gone now.

Eating meat(chicken, lamb, pork, etc) literally kills my appetite, even most stuff I can't be bothered eating.

The only plus side is that chocolate brownie milk has decent macros (60 cals, 4.2g protein per 100ml), and keeps me REALLY hydrated.

>trying to buy dnp off dinitro
>Coinbase needs to charge two shits to your card in order to verify
>They only sent one
>Been three days
>Coinbase sending me email reminders to verify even though they haven't done their part yet


REEEEEEE

>>40986336

>he cant buy DNP via bank transfers and get it the next day

must suck not living in britbongistan.

>>40986356
All my old UK sources are gone and I know none of the new ones. You lucky son of a bitch.

>>40986231

probably because you literally poisoned yourself to shed a couple lbs of fat.

its like recreationally taking arsenic and being surprised you have side effects

>>40986151
Low? That's moderate amount of tren ace, 75mg daily

>>40986456
oh shit, I though you meant 75mg of tren e per week.
if you're pinning the tren so often there is no reason not to do the test twice a week

holy shit cialis and/or viagra cured my premature ejaculation

I'm the kind of guy who cums after thrusting inside a vagina like 5 times. popped both cialis and viagra an hour before sex last night and I lasted as long as I goddamn wanted. I felt when I was coming close (for the first time, after 10 minutes straight of pumping) and I could stop it before it happened. round 2 was even fuckin longer, I had to finish myself off by hand

I definitely thought cialis/viagra would just make me cum as fast, but I'd get harder for round 2 faster... this is a game changer bros. made that tinder hoe fall in love with me right there

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>>40986194
yes

>>40983818
>>40983803
>>40983782
>>40983760
I don't regret voting for Trump over Hillary, but he sure is a kike. Just let the Arabs have the levant. It's not that hard.

Capitalists ruin everything.

They killed my dictator Ghaddafi

>>40986336
this happened to me. it will eventually show up.

however I had bad information and had to redo it like twice. took 3 weeks.

>>40986231
> chocolate brownie milk
chocolate milk wasn't enough?

>>40980784
I thought test flu was when you get flu-like symptoms like lassitude and joint pain and sore throat kinda stuff.

I'm waiting on my caber to arrive, but I want to start Tren now. I'm only gonna be on 100mg test and 125mg Tren e3d anyway.

Should I start now?

>>40987419
What esters are you using?

>>40987430
E. Forgot to add it.

>>40987434
Start the test now and tren when you get the caber. Maybe frontload some of the tren so it kicks in quicker.

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God I can't stop eyefucking girls at my gym and it's getting really obvious. Some bikini competitor/PT keeps training right next to me wherever I am and she's got a nice ass so I basically just watch it the whole time. I guess she likes the attention. God the milfs too, I don't care if their cuck husband is right there they're getting it.

Seems like girls I don't know make an active effort to get in my personal space on a daily basis too, must be the meme pheromones.

>>40987419
That's really low dose tren so you probably won't need caber anyways.

>>40987537
They smell that you are a worshipper of kek obviously.

>>40987537
STOP WATCHING PORN

LEARN TO LOOK PEOPLE IN THE EYES, OR DON'T LOOK AT THEM AT ALL

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Darkie drove a truck into a crowd in Stockholm just now, when will it end?

>>40987562
>LEARN TO LOOK PEOPLE IN THE EYES, OR DON'T LOOK AT THEM AT ALL
Nigga I do look them in the eyes constantly. That's my default place to look at anyone but I still give girls a once over of their body afterwards. I usually care most about face and being skinny/fit first before anything else in terms of attraction.

>>40987557
Must be, they want these betabux.

>>40983512
This

What should I use on my PCT after a metandrostenolona cycle?

I'll be cycling it for the first time next week, what should I expect?

>>40988023
>dbol only cycle
Wow you're dumb

>>40988092
Just testing it out before packing with something else, mate.

>>40988110
You're still gonna be shut down if you take dbol. If you really want to do an oral based cycle use a little test p to keep your testosterone levels normal.

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>>40984861
Thanks

>>40984929
It's tren E so still hasn't kicked in yet but I'll keep y'all updated.

>>40985864
I've been clean for 4 months now this was a slip. Back in AA now so hopefully I'll make some friends or something.


How is everyone's eternal hunt for QT gf?

>>40988414
Keep your head up man, you've got a good thing going now and id hate to see you mess up.

>>40988092
>omg an oral only cycle
Chill out, dickwad.

>>40988023
>>40988110
>>40988547
none of you understand steroids and should consider researching more before you grow a pair of thicc nips or hurt yourselves

t. your mothers husband

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>>40988614
>been roiding for 3 years
>started on orals just like everybody else
>actually prefer pinning and only oral is occasional anavar

>>40988654
>started on orals just like everybody else
Many such cases. Sad!

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>>40988414
>now this was a slip
Woah what? Don't fail your qtwaifu for some temporary high.

Workqt and I are inseparable sometimes but I'm having a hard time thinking of fun date ideas that she's comfortable with.

Tren makes my digestive system pretty fucky, poop smells awful and i dont shit as often

Anything to counteract this?

>>40986231
>150mg winstrol and 40mg superdrol
>why is my appetite shit
well geez dude take a guess

>>40980460
I run tren, and sweat profusely while working out cause of it. But it's never putrid. My gf says it has a sweet smell to it, so I'm guessing maybe pheromones or something. Those guys just don't wipe good enough, so when they sweat, it mixes with their excrement creating a stench only swine would enjoy

>>40982790
You're telling me that the Clomid i included in my pct will make me blind?? I didn't sign up to be Matt Murdock famalam

REEEEEEEEEE

>>40989060
Water, fiber, probiotics maybe. Also lowering the tren.

>>40989060

Tren messes with endogenous T3 production. Keep up the water and fibre, look at betaine and probiotics.

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>>40989273
>Also lowering the tren
Pls add a trip so I can filter you.

>>40989060
What filterboy said is true about probiotics and fiber. Maybe add some digestive enzymes or apple cider vinegar too. Drink more water no matter what, I go for 2gallons or so Ed.

>>40989304
that looks like a boy

>>40987674
I guarantee you they don't like it and think you're a creep.

Why are you delusional faggots taking DNP/Clen? Put your running shoes on and go for a jog.

>>40981004
How about you go to SST

>>40989467
Why spend three months cutting when you can get the same results in three weeks?

starting my next cycle. 5'11" 185lb 12%bf
Mast e 400 ew and test e 400 ew for 16 weeks.
also running a sdrol kicker for 4 weeks at 20mg ed.

im gonna hit it with a normal pct 2 weeks after last inject
nolva 40/40/20/20/20
clomid 50/50/25/25

aromasin will be taken throughout cycle and pct.

How does everything looks, nigs?

>inb4 "he cycles"
>inb4 my father will never accept me

> eat chipotle after workout
> free chips and guacamole
> the chips are 570 kcals
Well there goes my dinner

>>40989825
Idk it looks fine but if you need to ask if it's okay then you shouldn't run the mast it will be wasted on you

What should my bf% be at before I start a generic test-e cycle? I'm cutting for abs right before I start, but if I don't make it there before June should I keep cutting or just start it?

>>40988950
She never found out, AMAd out of th hospital after getting cleared for no fluid in lungs so was only in there for a couple hours

Still on the fence about telling her

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>>40990277
That shits going to eat at you. As much as I want to say just tell her I think she'd probably freak out given her history if you haven't shown any attempt to help your psychological or drug issues lately.

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>>40990277
Yo Kahuna, fellow recovering addict here.

Do you ever wonder if steroids are just a crutch helping us hobble along on the path of addiction? I mean it definitely affects my mental state. I think most people in AA would consider steroid use a relapse.

Anyway there's no one hard and fast set of rules, the only requirement is a desire to stop drinking, it doesn't say anything about steroids and it never will.

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250mg E3.5D or 500mg E7D for Test E?

>>40990362
Yeah I almost blurted it out a few times since. Will probably end up telling her. I respect her and don't want to lie

>>40990375
Yeah probably a crutch but IMO not a relapse. Lifting and hormones really help me stay clean/help my self esteem.

Maybe one day I'll aspire to be 100% Aa guru, but today is not that day.
Focused on holding it together one day at a time.

>>40980441
Oral if I'm running one. Plus Trne or TNE and some carbs and coffee.

>>40990231
Below 15% if you can. You can start at a high body fat but Itll make estrogen sides worse and your test a little less effective.

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I'm on my fifth quest bar today.

Sooo hungry. Will stick to diet harder tomorrow...

>>40990558
Thanks m8

>I'll probably post some starting pics here before I give it a go to see if I'm low enough

>>40990941
Just recently tried Quest for the first time. They are good af but damn m8 they are expensive

>four bars for $9
>I am not a rich man

>>40990968
Try to get measured by calipers or DEXA scan (however you spell it idk) if you can, it can be hard to judge bodyfat from pics.

>>40990415
e3d or e3.5d

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I am so fuckin bored none of my 3 friends will go hiking with me and all i got is my computer and Im not a manchild so anime and videogames dont really satisfy me. fuck.

how bad does your tdee go down on psmf assuming the same gear and adequate stims?

>>40984687
>first

Yeah right, no way that Asian cuck got that big natty.

>>40991341
are you stupid?

>>40991321
Come over we will play karate and crusaders

>>40991514
your body is going to make less passive movements and you will be less inclined to move around in general

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>>40991554
>Tfw not invited to play karate in bimbo's mom's basement.

>>40984687
bullshit.

How big is the difference between the effects of Tren A and Tren E? I heard that Tren A is better than E for all intents and purposes.

>>40991813
i heard using your brain is even better

>>40984635
There are better things in life besides women. Thats the lowest tier of accomplishment.

>>40984687
Maybe I've seen to many Asian ladyboys but he has a very fuckable face.

>>40991828
doesn't feel that way after you blow 500 loads in a row and everything seems pointless

>>40991822
tfw too strong to read

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> hear about some of y'all guys pulling gay stuff
> decide to put stuff in my butt
> feel nothing but ashamed

>>40979928
I wake up feeling like a cripple everyday. The pain is right around my left pec and it hurts when I take a big breath sometimes, but is alleviated to an extent by foam-rolling lats.
Also, to the left of my spinal erectors, I always have pain; is it because I pull rack-pull 800+ with mixed grip?

Any solutions? It makes me feel like I have an undiagnosed heart condition or lung problem.

I do heavy pulls daily, but have been doing squat singles the past few days to take a break.
I'm on 300mg Test with Anadrol 100mg + 25mg PWO Dianabol, so I assumed I'd recover.

>>40991910
i have this same shit and it is 100x worse after i bench specifically. otherwise it doesnt hurt

>>40991922
It hurts when I bench, rack-pull, deadlift and row.. I don't want to take any days off, but I don't want to become a cripple.

I might just focus on shit like barbell Glute bridges and shit that don't involve the upper back at all for a few days.

>>40991944
mine hurts like hell if i press into one specific spot in my ribs, do you get that too? feels almost like i can break my rib if i press hard

>>40991813
In terms of effects they're identical. In terms of convenience and ease of use they each have pros and cons. Tren A also has a smaller ester so technically you get a bit more active drug for the same amount of prodrug.

>>40991959
It just hurts a lot; might not be as bad yours. Maybe I just have really tight lats and sore erectors / rhomboids with a potential broken rib.

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>>40990441
>Will probably end up telling her. I respect her and don't want to lie
As you should. You need to tell her asap but like I said are you doing anything to avoid it from happening again or at least attending NA?

>>40991899
Lel.
Anal isn't for everyone, despite what the people who love it say.

>>40991554
where u at bithc

Who here watches Seth Feroce? Just started watching his vids, and his way of training seems pretty efficient, especially for when on gear.

>>40992665
What makes it efficient vs normal lifting?

>>40992665
The way he uses gear is full fucking retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKyDTkIQDtg

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>>40993199
Same as nearly all bodybuilders. Weird ass dosages and theories for every drug while completely excluding important ones like an AI or other ancillaries.

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Y'all think that Netflix and chill shit is played out? I'm tempted to invite quietQT over for that or maybe her place instead if her cats don't attack me.

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sup fags

>>40993623
nah, the classics are classic for a reason.

>>40990231
Yeah I started somewhere between 15-18 , I honestly should have just done it sooner, I had low t, should have at least cruised untill I cut but I did it the hard way for a bit first. If you are crazy high wait, if you are below 20 fuck it yolo, just make sure you have your ai, pct and everything on hand and get bloods done before, aabout 4-5 weeks I'm and again a couple weeks after cycle

>>40990375
Yeah it is for me I'm sure but it's healthier than the alternative, I loved me some opiates and alcohol, I'm sure I would have went back to them if it weren't for my new blast/cruise/lift life. Been clean about a year and a half, I've had bloods before and during my liver is good and I don't fuck with orals, it's been through enough.

Damn, trenbologny vascularity sure is something else. I dont ever want off this ride

>>40993653
Sup sloot

>been cruising since December
>not lifting
>doing lots of yard work
>using a push mower
>YOKED LAWN

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How did you guys not make a sticky yet?
at least with a FAQ for a start

>>40994304
We did.
Mods didn't like it.

>>40994309
do you have a link?

it's the jap now
I think he will let it slide

>>40994316
The jap doesn't moderate boards fagboy. Just search for the pastebin.

>>40994319
Don't call me fagboy if you aint going to drill my hole

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>>40994024
soop annie

how do i get over my fear of needles

>>40995326
stop being a pussy

>>40982237
It more that you're fat and wanting to cheat rather than working your bitch tits off then cheating. Do your ground work first.

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holy shit i just saw Spiderman and his boyfriend at my gym

Never taken any steroid but my friend gave me a month's supply of clomid

Will it do anything by itself?

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Anadrol is fucking amazing.

50mg preworkout

>Insane pumps, and I don't even train in that high bloodflow style. Get them everywhere, even glutes get pumped doing deadlifts
>Vascularity is unbelievable. My arms are fucking ridiculous looking, especially doing shit like rows, hammer curls etc
>Had pretty crazy carb cravings, ended up binging on a bunch of high carb snacks after smoking weed, probably over 400g carbs it was pretty disgusting
>Next day everything was full, especially my shoulders and oddly my obliques were blown up
>Baseline strength and rep endurance is increasing very rapidly. I have to limit the number of sets I do or I'll run out of time to cook/eat/sleep afterwards, it's amazing

No water retention to speak of, at least not noticable. Face looks leaner if anything. No gyno either. Only thing that sucks is my blood pressure gets pretty high and gives me headaches when benching/abs.

Overall 8-9/10. The next oral I try has huge expectations to live up to after this.

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>>40995404
what the fuck man

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>>40990983
my nigga. get the costco kirkland signature bars. 20 for 17. same macros. i eat 3+ a day. fucking delicious.

should i do an insulin cycle?

Started TRT January 5th. Then started a test C blast. I just finished my 10 week blast I'm cruising again. I haven't donated blood but 6 weeks into TRT my hematocrit was 45 when I started my pleb tier blast. Should I donate blood? How long until I die?

>>40995472
full on autist with spider logo compression shirt and matching shoes and socks

>>40995404
>>40995501
>sneaking pics of people at the gym
autism

>>40995498
Sure, just make sure you don't go too crazy on the blood donation and end up with low.iron levels.

Pretty sure they test those before drawing anyway, though. So do your thing.

>>40995349

thanks, i did my first pin, didnt actually hurt at all lol wtf

>>40995526
xD

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>>40984907
holy shit m8 are you me? I literally lost my virginity to a girl like a week ago and we've already done some crazy shit, deepthroating her while she's on her knees, tons of positions, choking, slapping, biting, her calling me daddy etc next thing we are going to try is BDSM maybe you could try that if you haven't yet? But thing is I'm afraid that once I do all this crazy shit with her what the fuck else will I want to do? I spent years on 4chan jacking off to crazy shit and being told that girls irl are never like that, first girl I hook up with and she's already doing it all and more. On the one hand this shit is fucking awesome, but at the same time where to from now on? I guess it's just time to totally leave humanity behind.. thank you /fit/ honestly I went from being a total fucking pathetic dyel who literally had such bad social anxiety I couldn't leave the house to even buy pizza (long story for another time maybe, got into a huge fight with my parents about it lmao) to now actually being able to fuck girls and feel confident I feel like I'm living a lie. I still see myself as that skinny fat kid playing counter stike 5 hrs a day every day, but I guess people see me differently now that I lift. Going to be starting my first cycle next week, I guess it's only up from here now right? Love you bros, we're all gonna make it


As a side note, I heard that once you finish PCT there's a chance that all the estrogen being blocked by the SERMs will release and give you gyno, hence should I take aromasin as im ending my PCT to lessen these sides? kthxbai

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>>40990983
>>40990941

Just make your own protein bars sillys, I made a batch not too long ago, they are great and I'm still eating them. I didn't calculate the macros on them but I know they're good just cause of the nature of the material used. Here's what I did-

Mix pea protein, peanut butter, almond flour until you get a nice consistency, binding it with milk or soy milk. Then you can add granola/oats/ seeds or whatever. Just put it in some pan and into the freezer and they turn out bomb and super fucking cheap. Eat them everyday and don't hate myself for all the added sugar im consuming.

>>40979928
Is there a way to calculate my risk of side effects? For example, my uncle and great uncle are both bald, does this mean I will also bald? I had mild acne throughout puberty, does this mean I will get acne?

Is age 20 too early too juice? leddit wiki says so
don't wanna fuck up my dick but want sum of that boipucci

What happened to groot

Did he od on tbol

>>40980418
>fitness model are not natty
something is off about that sentence

>>40996765
He ended up turning his one cycle into a blast, started adding a bunch of compounds into it

he got kinda fat. he showed up a few times but said he wasn't enjoying /fraud/ anymore

>>40999155
why isnt Chem dead yet

>>40995489
>those alcohols
M8 how do you not shart yourself allover eating that many

>>40995763
Pea protein fixes everything

>>40999610
breh I ate 6 quest bars yesterday and my shits were fine

the only downside is i dont have any for today

>>40999634
Dont have a butthole today?

>>40999676
dont have a quest bar retard

>>40999694
Rude.

>>40999634
Literally how
Those ethyls fuck up everyone I know at that volume

>>40999707
Quest bars have less sugar alcohols

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What was Jeff using at age 17?

Also, quints

>>40999998
Every.
damn.
time.

>>40999998
Hahaha off by one

>>40999998
1 scoop of hard work and dedicayshun

tfw was gonna go hiking with my friend and now he says tomorrow.

at least its leg day today so my workout will be easier without the hiking

Was hoping I could get some info on sarms?

I'm 24/f. Been lifting seriously for four years and am tired of this fucking stalling deloading pattern I've been trapped in. I do a lot of other sports which I understand is probably contributing heavily to my plateau, but I don't want to cut them down any further.

Diet/sleep/training/stress are all in check. I've looked up sarms on Google, but all l really find are experience logs of people raving about them on shilling forums. They appeal to me because nobody is reporting virilization effects + able to buy online + not as strong as legit roids. I don't wanna be a man, I just wanna be stronger.

>>41000439
Tren+test or fuck off, Sally

>>41000439
KYS roastie cunt

What's good summer stack? Was thinking of

300mg test e
350mg mast p
350mg tren a
var 50-75mg

Never done tren before and I hope my hair survives. Also var or epi?

>>41000638
if your hair survives mast its going to survive tren
var imo, epi will probably put more mass on you though

So I come here for thyroid shit because you guys know better than everyone else.


How much T4 should I take? I see ADC is carrying the shit and wanting to give it a run.

I fucked my thyroid up in 2013 with T3 and it never rebounded. Also my TSH is normal so they won't test T3/T4 levels and I'm not dishing out the cash for that just yet.

ADC still alright? I used them for albuterol back in the day and they were good.

25mcg should be alright?

>>41001283
cheers nigga

>>41001535
If TSH is normal you are probably okay, test T3/T4 if you want to satisfy your autism

>>41001641
TSH hasn't been a definitive indicator for thyroid problems since 2004. It's a deprecated practice that is still widely practiced.

>>40988414

I just added Tren E to my stack of Test+Deca so we'll probably be seeing results around the same time.

Also a recovering heroin addict, just celebrated 7 months yesterday.

Around here people in the program will basically shun you for steroid use, feels bad.

> tfw trudging the road to happy destiny alone

>>41001535
start with 25 µg and increase dosage by 12.5-25 µg per week until symptoms disappear
should take about 2-4 weeks

....

>>41001807
this means the end dosage will probably be 50-100 µg
blood tests before and after would be a good idea

back on tren e after 2 years of staying away from the rusty demon oil
feels good

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>slowly train myself to fall asleep around 6PM, and to wake at 4AM. Avoid having to deal with people, get my gym, work and study done with minimal interaction.
>Doctor tells me I'm skipping REM sleep that happens from 4AM onward(???), suggests sleeping until 5:30AM.
>So used to this routine that I wake up nearly to the minute to piss every day.

You merely adopted the autism. I was born in it, molded by it.

>>40991321

Fuck. When I was a fat cunt I could spend an entire day at my computer playing whatever release I pirated at the time. Now I can't spend more than an hour before I lose interest. Even old games I used to love just seem so fucking pointless.

Maybe I'll just kill myself.

>>41001957
Go hang out and do stuff with someone you can touch a lot.

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>>41001957
Play idolm@ster
Its anabolic

>>41002085
Idolmaster would be better if it were types of food and not little girls

>>40980008
>that guy
>natty
wew lad I remember my first month of lifting

>>41001957
>>Doctor tells me I'm skipping REM sleep that happens from 4AM onward
thats bullshit

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Is there any way a high TSH could fuck up free test? My total test is fine I guess.

With a TSH of 7, does that mean hypothyroidism?

>>41002039

It really is my own fault for being such an autistic fuck, I guess I shouldn't be bitching about it. Why can't I talk to boys or girls without turning into niagara falls.

>>41002085

O.. o-kay jerry-sama

Would using a bit of nolvadex while cutting on 250 test cruise dose, do anything at all?

Its what i have laying around, cant be botherd to buy some new shit.

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>>41002094
I dont want food to warm my heart though

>>41002174
Thats right
Now youll never be bored, depressed, and will grow faster
Youre welcome

>>41002174
I guarantee you're no more awkward than the girl I'm seeing; but she's straight autism.

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>>41002184

I must etc.

>>41002159
>does that mean hypothyroidism?
depends on what your T3 and T4 levels are

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what is this shit. Facebook gives the most awful suggestions

>>41002297
She's a girl though
Autustic girl: cute, thousands of partners
Autustic guy: neckbeard, will die holding his thomas the tank engine daki

>>41002374
You dont want gains of steel?

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I've been researching steroid sources till I'm blue in the face and still don't get it.

Can someone just point me in the right direction?
Do I join a roid forum and pm someone there?

No bully

>>41002530
>no source talk

What part of that do you not understand?

>>41002530

How the fuck do you research steroid sources until you're black and blue without first even glancing at the first page of google?

C'mon man, seriously. Sort your shit.

>>41002530


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Sup /fraud/? Can I get a bf% estimate from you guys, once I reach 10% i wanna do babbys first cycle of 500mg test e pw, 12-15 weeks with an oral kickstart for first 4 weeks, aromasin for ai throughout and nolva for pct.
195lb at 5'11" in the pic, down from 230lb at start of year. Goal weight is 170lb, hoping for shreds by then.

>>41000439
Just use var.

>>41002177
Why are you using the nolva?

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>>41001774
Bro I just don't tell people I'm on steroids. It's not necessarily relevant to whether you're working the program and doing meetings, calling people, etc.

Is there anyway to increase androgen receptors in calves/legs? I'm starting to look like I don't work legs cause upper body is growing faster than lower. Thinking it's from the no roid receptors down there. Inject calves? Purposefully have high estrogen? Idk

>>41002648
14%

>>41002648
>>41002648
mid to high 20s

>>41002702
calves and legs grow with higher rep.
start doing treadmill on high incline
do them often, every workout hit on them a few sets
you could always pin there but wew
genetics and calves are yuge, some have a real hard time with them. i'm italian and naturally heaftier so my calves are pretty big and i never work them intentionally

>>40984755
start accutane instead of heroin my dude
don't give in to instant gratification

>>40985864
Where r ur nips lol

>>40993653
Lel he can't reach it

>>41002721
delusion

>>40995452
RIP liver

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>>40999610
I personally find the pea protein sort of disgusting. When I make shakes the whey protein is not even detectable except for the taste. The pea protein is very grainy and feels like I'm drinking sand.

But for the protein bars I think it is pretty good because as a mass it has a nice consistency when combined with other things. First time I made protein bars I used a mix of whey and pea protein. But now I'm trying to eat vegan while meeting macros, it is truly hard, pea protein definitely comes in handy then. I also think that they add way too much sugar to the normally sold protein bars, and idk alcohol sugars I've heard bad things about.... Even the 7 grams of sugar in my soy milk disturb me. I also think that actually eating lots of phytoestrogens might be beneficial while on cycle because if you are killing all your aromasin with an AI, the phytoestrogens can by your sort of estrogen replacement.

Can't wait to start my cycle :))))))

>>41003104

Well if you're only trying to eat vegan than try to eat vegan and substitute the things you need in your diet. You're only limit is what you say you can and can't eat and if it means that much to you just lie about it.

>>40983375
>>40983392

Nah, severely low T mainly feels like severe brain fog and fatigue. Exactly how I was feeling when I had a blood test that said 73 ng/ml, brain tumor range.

Of course it can also be caused by being a depressed couch potato.

Just realized we're past the bump limit.

new:

>>41003183
>>41003183
>>41003183

>>41003051

Explain

>>41003189
>separation in quads
>visible serratus
>outline of abs
>25-30% bf
does not compute

>>41003194

What % would you say then?

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>>40999634
tfw no shits for today