i know this has prob been answered before but is it possible natty with okay decent genetics?
if ur willing to dedicate the next 6 years to an ideal diet and workout
yes
>>40968785
wat ze fuck 6 years? yeahhhhhh prob gonna take roids soon
>>40968824
>roids
Hope you like small testicles
>>40969817
only makes ur dick look bigger
>>40968824
>roids
just remember that cardiac tissue is muscle too
>>40970264
are roids even worth it? i hear taking them once ur 25 is completly fine but i hear otherwise to what are ur thoughts?
>>40970286
just do test nothing else
>>40968824
Hahahaha it will take 6 years if you have shit genetics.
Do a lean bulk for two years straight and cut the final year and you'll probably get there.
Roids do make it easier tho.
6 years with lifting as a side hobby maybe.
>>40968771
The average natural man who busts ass and uses creatine and eats moderately well can attain that after 4-5 years of consistent hard work and diet and you're going to have to stay at about 12-14% bodyfat or else you'll just become outright castrated and you'll just start eating your own muscle to live.
That level of leanness with that fullness? Basically impossible.
The sad thing is, he started roiding out of control at fucking 14 and only attained what a natural lifter who busted his ass for 5 years could get.
>>40968771
I believe with 2 2/3 years of lean bulking and then four months of cutting anyone can get this. I nearly did, but injury had me unable to continue. If you want I can post pics of my 1.5 year mark.
>>40970411
sure post em
>>40968771
He only juiced for the last couple of years, but anybody could agree that he probably had the most ascetic male physique ever recorded. So somebody with goat tier genetics plus a training program could hit zyzz mode natty
I'm a natty fatty tho
>>40970430
I was nearly 18 in first photo, second is 19. If I was able to continue for another year and a half I believe I would have reached young Zyzz. Weight was 145-185, bench was 175-275.
>>40968771
No.
You'd have to run some testo at least.
No as in "no fucking way".
>>40970563
mirin pre hard how tall were u in that pic also what was ur parents background?
>>40970563
>delusional
zyzz had 17.5" arms and towards the end of his life was 100kg+ at 6'1 at ~10%bf
you didnt even have visible abs while tensing
>>40970606
Thanks man. I'm Half white, half Arab. I was 5"10 first and 5"11 second?
>>40970644
Young Zyzz != end Zyzz. Prime Zyzz shits all over me and I'll be the first to admit it. I believe was within a years reach of young Zyzz though.
>>40970674
fair enough