So do you basically have to go auschwitz-mode to get visible

>>40941843
pic not me btw, just what I envision looking like to get abs to show

Take it from someone who has done it (cut to get abs at all costs), just bulk and lift 3 or 4 years before even thinking about abs.

The problem is tou have not much muscle to burn cals with, so you need to go very low food intake in order to keep losing fat. You will go auschwitz, you will feel like shit, you will give yourself low test.

I got shredded as fuck at like 65kg, 6ft. Looked great, felt like shit. Like actually depressed. Not worth it. Just focus on getting big and strong. Abs will be easier later

your at 158 5'8 and you dont have abs? seriously do you even lift?

I'm like 20% bodyfat and have visible abs.

Gain muscle mass in your abs and they'll be visible even if you're kinda fat.

The whole "You can't do anything to get abs except lose fat" is bullshit.

>>40941843
Try lifting weights OP.

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No.
Pic related is me, 1.5 years of lifting, 3 months of taking it seriously.

>>40941843
You have to actually work your core as well. 168@5'8 should show something

>>40942294
>I'm like 20% bodyfat and have visible abs.
no you dont

>>40942294
I don't lift: the post

6' 172. Started at 205. Prob have to get down to 155 for a lean look. Is it worth is? I just figured it's a good place to start. A clean slate to build on. What do maybe I will.just go another month and stop?

Do stomach vacuums. That way, even if you don't have abs, your stomach will be flat

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>how much fat do I have to lose to get my intestinal tract to show?
thats not how it works you retard
you have to build up your ab muscles