Katom

>>40896693
Isn't it a mild sleep aid?

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>>40896773

It feels like a mild opiate and amphetamine to me.

It's really just a based plant

It is a mixture of different psychoactive alkaloids. Some of them are rather potent opiod-receptor-agonists. Thus you can get hooked pretty easily and it is outrageous that kratom is promoted as a nootropic or harmless supplement.

I know people who are physically addicted to it.

>>40896895

Just treat it like phenibut on off days

I did it for 3. Months nonstop and didn't get noticeable wd

>>40896693
My 8 months pregnant sister is addicted to this shit. The rest of my white trash family is happy that at least she's not drinking and using hard drugs this time around, like she did during her last pregnancy.

It seems to have different effects based on the strain. Some are more like meth, some are more like a mild opiate. I don't see how either would improve workouts or help you reach fitness goals. Maybe it could work as a weight loss aid, since most junkies end up really skinny looking.

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>>40897006

Do you know what stains she uses?

And yeah, I'd say weight loss I the main benefit.

>>40897006
Have you tried it?

>>40896895
but if you don't have withdrawals after stopping it then is it really physically addictive? sounds more like just a psychological thing.

>>40897006
comparing kratom to heroin is like comparing coffee to meth.

sorry about your sister though man.

>>40897348

I find it's actually more enjoyable due to the dopamine release

>>40896693
kind of nauseating. feels ok. mild opiate. probably better than alcohol, but it will of course mess up your digestive tract. constipation/really bad shits.

kava is superior, but does not address pain, only anxiety.

>>40896895
I was briefly physically addicted, but I fixed it by just doing a schedule of every other day. You can pretty much prevent full-blown addiction by cutting down to 3 days a week or so. I'm probably going to stop once I get my Master's and start my PhD, but it really helps me power through marathon 24-hour lab shifts.

>>40896693
PST>kratom

if you have any kind of an opi tolerance kratom won't do shit for you

>>40900321
what is pst?

i've tried kratom and it generally just makes me sick and constipated

>>40901437
I don't want to say too much, but just google "pst tea". Great for any kind of pain or coping with injury pain and recovery.

>>40901489
oh okay, thanks

>>40897006

kratom isn't like meth at all. it doesnt even give me as much energy as a >sip and ive taken dozens of strains for a year or two

Kratom is about as strong as coffee with the extra downside of nausea instead of insomnia if you take too much.

>>40896895
>>40897348
>>40901575

Kratom is to heroin as coffee is to meth.

In fact it's brewed in a manner not dissimilar to coffee and drank by fuck loads of people every day in southeast Asia.

>>40896693
Avoid this stuff like the plague. It's also a diuretic and I was so high on it I forgot to call into work -- it's just going to fuck your shit up and it's a waste of time and money

unless you are an absolute loser drug addict and this is actually a step down for you

>>40902966

You od'd on it you feeble minded pansy

>>40903047
Really? I had no idea

Different strains have different effects, I've tried the more opioid alike variety and it felt like a mild painkiller, euphoria and body tingling. And I've tried the energy/social anxiety ones and it's a mild stimulant, might have been placebo though.

Either way the effects were not strong or too pronounced and didn't make me want to abuse it because it simply wasn't fun enough to.

>>40903198

What high energy strains have you tried

>>40903217
MaengDa, and one of the colored veins, I forget but there's info out there.

It was very similar to caffeine but probably not as strong. Like I said before the effects were very mild, hardly perceptible except the opioid one.

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>>40903217
Here are my meme observations over two days.

>>40903245

Really? I find MD to be the most opiate like

>>40903260
They aren't labled

>>40903339
They are both from my MaengDa strain.

>>40903329
It was a sample dropped off by a vendor that wants us to start carrying kratom. I would not be surprised if they were mislabeled.

>>40896693
gave me gyno. seriously.