/fat/ Fatty General

Do your cardio fatty

What's the best way/site to track down every food nutrition value and plan your day meals?

Is https://www.myfitnesspal.com/ good for that, any tips?

>>40893810
it's raining

Confess your cheatmeals

I hit 250 pounds with
>455 deadlift
>275 squat
>225 bench
>135 ohp
I realized it's time to stop looking like shit. I'm dowm to 242 in 2 weeks. Should I try dnp or am I doing alright?

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Anyone have some good meal plans to follow for fatloss?

I'm doing well with my cardio and lifting but I have a pretty bad binge eating problem that makes me basically plateau forever at a chubby weight, I'm 6ft - 175lbs, but very flabby.

I do well with set, structured instructions that I can follow so a set meal plan or a source to build one would be super helpful for me.

Thanks /fat/

Pic related is from the TDEE calc

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Posted in another thread but the thread went.

I'm currently 15 kg down and only have another 10 kg to lose to get to my target weight. My cardio is about 4x better than when I started, I'm getting a more defined jaw, I'm so much fitter and happier when doing most of my activities it's unbelievable and I love looking more "beautiful" and aesthetically pleasing (clothes looking good on me for once is great too).

However: I'm a gaybo who has a severe fat fetish and all I can think about is how the fuck I'm supposed to get a fat bf with the same fetish now, or how I'm gonna stand living with them if they're a fatass.

I know /fat/ is probably about as incapable of understanding my feels as anywhere else seems to be but I don't get it, Why couldn't I just be a normie? I'd have made a really good normie, I see y'all on /fit/ all the time whining about it being too hard to get girls and whatever well I've got to say y'all got it good because at least you're into girls.

inb4 kys, don't worry, I know.

>half the size you were
>still just a fat guy

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HELP. so i've been on a diet for about a month now, and its doing..ok? i would say, im eating under 2,000, so im doing good, but my youngest brother is having a birthday in few days, but he doesn't want anything special, so for food he just said he wanted everyone to get a pizza from Domino's and obviously some cake and ice cream

im one of those people where, if im offered a full fucking pizza, im going to eat a full fucking pizza. (im still early in my diet to fight off huge craving's) even if i just take few slice's, i know either way, by the end of the day, i will eat the full pizza. (im not even counting the ice cream and cake i will most likely crave into, too)

i feel like if i refuse any of the food (family is fatties, they wont have a single healthy item there) m brother will somehow be upset, and i will be cranky because i will be turning down my favorite food. because this only happens 1 time a year (a birthday) i must ask

should i just fuck that day up, eating probably 4,000-6,000,

or be cranky/upset and probably piss off my brother too?

(pls dont recommend me only eat 1 slice, because i know myself and i will probably crave in to more then 1-2 slices, because we dont get pizza often and i enjoy it wayyy to much)

>tfw was 130,7 @ ssunday
>family came over, eaten like 3 pieces of cake + some mac n cheese on top of the chicken and rice
>monday came and I had no meals, had to eat mcwrap and coke zero cuz stomach was sticking to my spine (7am-6pm on only light cotttage cheese) and I had to go to gym
>wednesday i prepared normal meals but drank protein shake with milk, exeeding my 1500kcal
>weighed myself today
>131,6kg
pls tell me that its just the mass of poop that I didnt shit out yet

>>40893903
dont eat anything else this day and add more cardio next day maybe?
easy way out would be puking, but if you start doing it bulimia will come sooner than you think

>on the cusp of healthy BMI
>weight is yo-yoing daily like crazy
it's been from 191 to 184 and back again in under a week
that's not possible is it?

>>40893903
You write like a teenager, don't count calories, and are never going to make it. Enjoy being a fat fuck. If you weren't retarded and counted calories you would find a way to fit in some pizza but you don't, and so you're going to have a cheat day which becomes a cheat weekend which becomes a cheat week which becomes your miserable cheat life

>>40893903
just fucking eat it. then you will learn that the decision you made was retarded and you shouldn't do that again. im sorry but thats the only way we fat fucks going to learn.

>>40893930
that doesn't sound like a bad idea. maybe (if i decide to fuck up and eat the full pizza) for like a week after the birthday, i'll just eat 800 calories mixed with more 'extreme exercise.

>>40893943
:(
who hurt you?

>>40893944
ehh..i suppose..

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Is cider the best booze to drink? Beer makes you fat and hard liquors taste like shit and mixing it with coke is worse then the beer for making you fat. I need to drink to feel happy so I'm going to do it regardless.

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> tfw you finally fit on that lower size shirt you bought 2 years ago

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>>40893968

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Just ate a whole large bag of Doritos

I want to die.

I am filled with regret and feel like it's not enough of a punishment for me to understand I need to stop.

>>40893968
4chan is for people aged 18+

>>40893816
nice extra cla burned through Thermogenesis

>>40893903
plan ahead every day till the birthday eat a little less than normally on you diet so you dampen the impact on you weekly total. get the healthy stuff like diet drinks, maybe they have a frozen yogurt option as ice cream choice. Or a frozen smoothie that might be a tiny bit better. if it's a chain you can look up dietary info online. even when not still look at a comparable chain so you get an idea what pizza to get. have the will power for 5 min while you order, so you get a thin crust margherita. instead of a meat lover's deep dish with cheese crust.

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Time to confess your cheat meals, son.

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How many of you fatties are able to do 100 push-ups? or at least 30 with a decent form?

>>40893962
>who hurt you
You did, it sucks seeing this general which initially started out as people motivated and posting meals and their weight loss into people like you who don't count calories and literally ask
>hey guys how will I lose weight eating pizza and ice cream but don't tell me to eat less because I have no self control :DDDD
Did you even read what you posted?

>>40893993
i ate my sisters ass and now im black

>>40893993
'cheat' meal is a stupid term
I've gone over TDEE twice in six months
don't remember what I ate, but I probably didn't enjoy it

Anyone else here with a "normal" BMI (me 24,7), but still has fat handles?

>>40893995
im 5'10 and around 237-241
and i could do about 20 before dying

>>40894001
i asked for help on an issue, i know many other fat anons go through

and i was basically just asking
"do i eat anything"
or
"do i eat everything"

it was a simple question, lad

are you a fatty that just fucked his diet, so you think it will make you feel better unleashing anger on random people on /fit/?

>>40893985
almost bought a bag of nacho cheese on the way back from the gym yesterday. i was really fighting with myself, moral licensing really is a bitch. all you think about is how you just reached your goal and deserve a reward, and surely it will help you study wink wink. in the end i just sabotage myself.
at least i managed to resist yesterday.

When you guys do push-ups or anything do you do it with dumb-bell handles or do you just put your hands on the floor with some soft surface?

I've been doing them and it fucks my wrists up...

I've lost 120lbs eating 500 calories a day. I've stopped feeling hungry and my body has adjusted to my new diet. I drop 4 pounds a week easy. I need to drop 40lbs more before I switch to a maintenance diet.

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>had cereal for breakfast
>had mcdonalds for lunch

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if dubs you are excused to eat pizza

>>40894065
rolling

>>40894034
What was your starting weight?

>>40894084
350

>>40894034
I did that, weight came off like magic
came back again

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>>40894071
pussy

>>40894109
Came back because you ate like shit after you dropped it. You are weak and you will never ever make it

>>40894115
Not him. But kinda mean for a fat people thread.

>>40894115
Everybody thinks they can do it that way
everybody fails
you're no different

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>>40894122
lots of bullies in this thread tonight. stay safe my fellow fatanons.

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>>40894029
Are you saying you do push-ups on your palms?

>>40893907
update
just took a huuge dump
might be that 1kg lol

>>40893831
what is the website in your image, anon?

>>40893968
just go for meth or speed
youll lose weight

>>40894122
People get fat because we are to accepting

>>40894128
IAlready dropped tons of weight. I've completly changed my thinking of food. That's why fats fail, they don't deal with the addiction side of over eating

>>40894129
/fat/ is neither tumblr nor hugbox.

Reminder to eat fruits an vegetables every day. Being overweight is bad but not getting your daily nutrients because of your diet makes it a lot worse.

>>40894122
>>40894129
The dude's right, though. If you want to stay slim but have the fat gene, then you must keep an eye on your diet throughout your entire life. This is why there's such a huge percentage of relapse. I used to be fat - 260 at 6'4, slimmed down to 200 just before my senior year. It's been about 6 or 7 years since then and I've had a couple of close calls with obesity. I've noticed in that time that all it takes for me to baloon up is 3-4 months of unchecked eating and it's off to the shop for new pants. A year ago I was at my lowest weight because I was barely eating due to a tough break-up, but then I got a fancy new job with lots of disposable income and it took me 3 months to gain about 50 pounds of fat and I never even noticed.

My advice is to find something other than food to make you happy. Explore other types of cuisine and comfort food - for me it was preserves. Kimchi/sourkraut, gherkins and mushrooms have ridiculously low caloric index and are great snacks. If you're progress driven, make a spreadsheet. If the prospect of counting every calorie and weighing every grain of rice for the rest of your life seems daunting - get a quality belt and decide on a notch. Once you can't use that notch anymore - adjust your diet until you're happy. Keep watching the TLC reality shows and snap some before/after pictures of yourself. Read FPH threads. Never forget how it was.

TL;DR it's a lifestyle, not a grind.

>>40893903
>but my youngest brother is having a birthday in few days

You've known his birthday has been coming up for some time...

If you're serious then consider stopping at 1500 calories for 2 days before... eat pizza only on his birthday and 1500 calories for 2 days after.

There you go 500 + 500 + 2000 + 500 + 500.

I've just freed you up 4000 calories. Wasn't that hard was it. No mental gymnastics there.

>>40894109
This is why you take monthly weighed progress pics. After reaching your goal you pick one and tell yourself "I'm never getting THAT fat again".
When your maintenance inexplicably turns into a bulk, you have a set threshold at which you know you have to go on a diet again.

>>40894122
>>40894129
Try tumblr if you're looking for a safe space.

>>40894435
yep, did that

if you're sure you can do it, go for it
but why waste the time

>>40894482
How time-consuming is not eating for you?

>>40894492
I mean in 12 months when you've gained all the weight back you're going to want to do it normally
just do it normally now

>>40893958
Start eating less in advance, because it's easy to plan on eating less afterward and not actually doing it. Also, you really need to learn not to binge on pizza when you're given a chance. Thinking "I will fail" is a retarded mindset, if you can't get rid of it, you already lost.

>>40894029
Do them on your fists for reduced impact on your wrists and for muh bone gains.

>>40894128
>everybody
One of the contestants on the biggest loser successfully kept her weight down after losing a fuckton, even though her maintenance calories dropped to fuck all.

>>40894573
oh, then ignore everything I said
this will work 100%`

>>40894583
Well most of what you've said can be ignored on the ground that all your weight came back, which clearly indicates that it was caused by your shitty eating habits and not by the side effects of the diet. Like gaining 20 pounds max back can be blamed on the diet, but the rest is entirely your fault. And now you're telling others they aren't doing their weight loss right because you fucked up. Also, that poster has already lost 120 pounds, so the damage is already done.

>>40894620
then go for it dude

trust me, I want you to prove me wrong, but you won't
countless others have tried, all thinking they could

>>40894620
if he'd fixed his eating habits he wouldn't need to crash diet
so unless he's losing weight fast to join the army or something...

>>40894634
I don't do it because my parents would nag me if I only ate 500 kcals a day, but when I lost 10 kilos in the past eating 1000 kcals a day, I could keep it down with no effort.

>>40894658
I think he crash diets because he's like 160 pounds overweight. If I was that fat, I would want to lose it as fast as possible.

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fit into 36" jeans

>>40894001
I agree. These threads went from supporting each other to "waaa, muh shitty choices." It's like these fat fucks want a hug every time they fuck up. Well guess what fatties? It's not ok to screw up, and your confessions don't make it ok.

>>40894122
Fuck you, you fat fuck. Go find a hug box if you want to feel better about being a slob.

>>40894735
>went from supporting each other
>Well guess what fatties? It's not ok to screw up,
you're not helping

>implying it IS okay to screw up
>implying we should kid glove fatties
>implying anyone is going to make it
this general is cancer

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>>40894750
>you're not helping

oh noo

>>40894724
same, just bought a pair to see if i would and they fit great
used to be 42

So I'm 6"5 & 213 pounds, and I just started counting. According to myfitnesspal I should eat 2k calories a day, with the 500 cal deficit. Does the stats sound right? Sounds low to me but maybe im just hoping.

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>>40893804
>he hasn't taken the dried apricot pill yet

What's your excuse?

>>40894236
2nd link in OP
>>40894724
tfw your pants size has gonna down a lot but you don't want to invest in a new wardobe when you're only halfway through.

>>40894784

Go for a 1k deficit you fat fuck

>>40894783
exact same man
I was wearing 42" jeans with a belt for ages
probably looked ridiculous

>>40894789
I wasn't sure they were gonna fit
but I reasoned that they either would now or very soon
don't think my skeleton can actually go 34"

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>>40894784
>500 cal deficit

never gonna make it

1500 or go home

>do chinups and curls
>'ceps become nice firm mounds on my arms
>next day
>back to flat overcooked spaghetti

why

Dry Aged Rib Eye Steak, Lobster Mac n'Cheese, Seared Scallops, Salad and Bread

>>40894820
>tfw 2000

feelin pretty good today

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against my better judgement I bought these

they're not that bad actually
75kcal a pop and you can stuff them with veggies for an easy snack

>>40894857
>>40894820

>not doing Auschwitz mode

never going to make it desu

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>>40894784
I just used your weight of 213 to get your maintenance calories (bodyweight times 11-14 depending on activity level) assuming you have a sedentary life, you eat 2343 cal just to maintain your weight. A good place to start your cut is by dropping your maintenance calories by 20%. So start off with eating 1874cal a day.

>>40894870
So its like a miny taco bowl? How does that work with a softshell?

>>40894911
like pita bread

how much strength am i going to lose on an -700 kcal deficit?

TDEE is 2500kcal
looking to go for 1800kcal

Hey guys. I'm 5'10 male trying to get down to 75kg (165lbs). Do you guys think 75kg is too low for 5'10? Thanks bros.

>>40894985
It is not.

I've lost a pants size a month sinve January, workout at least four days a week. Getting mires from wife's friends.
Am I doing it right?

Is eating 500cal below TDEE a good pace?

>>40895101
20%

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>>40894820
>not going into 8000 kcal deficit and losing a kg a day.
It's like you want to stay fat.

>Ate a McChicken for dinner while hanging out with friends
>still have 400 calories left for the day
feels good man

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how do i stop drinking milk I drink half a liter per day for as long as i can remember.
I've been eating 1000 less calories per day but my dumb ass will not get up unless I drink it in the morning before I'm even coherent. I intake about 400 calories in milk per day wtf.

>does anyone else have a weird eating habit ive been on some sort of natty gomad for all my life

>>40895151
This.
>Not throwing up a few times a day to lose more kcal

>>40895101
Ignore the 20% memer. Possibly, but post your stats. Why do people think it's okay to ask questions without posting stats? If you're a fat fuck and need to lose weight fast it's very likely you should do a -1000.

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>>40895164
400 kcals aren't that much, you can just eat 400 kcals less food and be fine. Or you can replace milk with another white liquid that's healthier and contains no calories.

will losing weight cure my autism

>>40895213
maybe can you repeat the question?

>>40895213
Yes

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>>40895190
>127kg
>164cm
>TDEE is 2616
>Pre-diabetes

What are some good ways to exercise when you are morbidly obese?

When you are that fat, it hurts to stand after 5 mins. Im getting to the point where Im exhausted after I take a quick shower. Im fed up and want to start some fatty exercises so I can at least shower and do dishes without feeling shaky.

>>40895201
do you mean semen

Help me Bros, I have absolutely no control of myself when I go out on the weekends. I maintain a 1500 cal diet really well during the weekdays but then the weekends come and it's all beer and binge eating pizza and wings.

Anyone got any tips for controlling yourself? I did a month where I didn't drink but I had to purposefully avoid friends on the weekends at night and I got bored as all fuck.

What do you guys do on weekend nights that isn't drinking?

>>40895226
Start at 500, get used to it, stick to it religiously. And then up it. You could easily get to -1000 or more, the key is to start slow, then ramp it up as you get used to it so you don't lapse.

>>40895228
start with a calorie cut and walking.

>>40895243
leave humanity behind.

>>40895228
Probably a stationary bike, because a real bike would most likely not be able to support your weight.

>>40895228
swimming. Hell you could just wade around in the shallow end

>>40895228
have you considered learning dancing by yourself. practice the steps in rounds of 3 minutes each song
fun and gives routine recovery while still having calorie expenditure.

>>40895250
I was looking at some of those on Craigslist earlier. How long would you recommend a fatty be on the bike each day?

>>40895275
I googled water aerobics in my area because I figured being in water would help with the weight hurting. I found a gym geared towards fat people but they closed :/

>>40895302
You should just transition to eating at a deficit. exercise is secondary if you have trouble standing after 5 minutes.

>>40893816
MI bro?

>>40895319
Thanks bro. Ive been reading links from fit and its nuts that I was always told the opposite (exercise first as its the top factor in losing weight). I will start researching a meal plan that will cut my current intake.

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>>40895249
Will do, anon.
What about macros? Should I do 40/40/20 or 30/35/35?

>>40895302
I don't know, because I don't use one, but I guess you can use it for like 30 minutes to an hour if you can. Just make sure to stretch afterwards and shit to not fuck your posture up. But as the other poster pointed out, exercise is not the most important thing for you right now, because it doesn't burn that many calories anyway.

>>40895228
When you're that big and having that much trouble, you don't even need to exercise, to be honest. The best thing you can do to put less strain on your body and start feeling better is to put more focus on how much you're eating.

I was getting close to 400 lbs, but I had a job where I was on my feet all day. I'd start with body weight exercises rather than going out and buying a stationary bike. Some dumbbells would help as well to get yourself some muscle in your arms.

>>40893938
water weight.

>>40895346
Keep in mind that whatever you transition to needs to be permanent. The way you live and eat now cannot become your norm again or you will just end up back there.

You can also pretty much just eat whatever as long as it's within your deficit. Buy a food scale and weigh everything you put into your body and track it.

>>40893968
>I need to drink to feel happy
you're a faggot and wouldn't survive in nature so you should kill yourself

>>40893993
Forget me /fat/her, for I have sinned and went 120 calories over my TDEE because of a fucking coffee with milk and sugar.

>>40893814
MFP is the gold standard, use it. Make sure you actually weigh and measure your ingredients and don't use generic MFP entries though.

>>40895383
my last weigh in must have been on a particularly bloated day then
or dehydrated

this is why I do it every fortnight

>>40895413
why do people have weigh in days?
Why not just do it every day when you wake up after your morning piss/shit?

>>40895409
No forgiveness for stumbling fatties! Knock that shit off or be fat forever, or however long it takes for your heart to give out pumping the cherry jello you call blood through your cholesterol clogged arteries, you fucking fat fuck.

>>40895424
i just want to know I'm still heading in the right direction
no need to do it every day

>>40895424

You should definitely weigh yourself daily and look at weekly averages and make adjustments based on that.

If you measure once a week and happen to be holding a lot of water that specific day you can essentially ruin it all because you have either made no progress or actually gain weight and then wrongfully decrease your calorie intake because you think it's not working.

>>40895424
Shitty scales don't have enough resolution for you to be able to measure daily weight loss, and your weight fluctuates too much, even if you make sure to weigh yourself after waking up and taking a piss & shit.

>>40895459
inb4 anecdotes to the contrary

>>40895164
Switch to almond milk? You can put half dairy and half almond for a while to get used to the taste then slowly lower the dairy and up the almond.

>>40895562
almond milk is lush
it's just like milk but with a nutty aftertaste
if it wasn't so expensive I'd live off the stuff

>>40895213
Hasn't cured mine. Probably made it worse.

>lose 15lbs since end of January
>TDEE is now 1600kcal
>have to eat less than 1000kcal to keep losing weight at my current pace
>only 20 more pounds to go

>>40895656
Are you a hobbit?

>>40895656
What the fuck, are you a trap

>Get to my supposed ideal body weight according to the calorie calculator
>still have love handles and a bit of a belly

>>40895682
Get muscle

>>40895213
helps esteem for sure

>>40895682
being a healthy person doesn't mean you'll be an aesthetic person

>>40895682
ideal is a broad range

>>40894785
Enjoy your sugar

>>40895334
Not that anon, but nice to see another Michigan bro. It's suppose to rain all day I'm so comfy

>>40895682
yeah I have to be like 10-20lbs under the "ideal" range to actually look slim and cut, otherwise still slightly pudgy

>>40895681
>>40895670
Just a 5ft grill

>>40894023
>do i eat anything"
>or
>"do i eat everything"
the fact that you even asked that shows you won't make it.
like come on dude

>>40893974
i actually dont have any clothes left i outgrew over the time. one of the most exciting things was to finally fit into old clothes again. what do?

>>40893993
i really want to cheat but seeing the calory values in mfp always fucka me over. i really looked forward to todays breakfast with two slices of bread with some good cheese i bought yesterday. after putting it into mfp i put the cheese back to the fridge and put the usual turkey+cucumber combo on it.

i really miss the innocence food had before. my mfp cut is -1kg a week and even when im near that (without taking cardio into account) i start to feel bad. what have cold calculations done to me

>>40895852
Oh. Well 100 calories for breakfast, 300 for lunch, and 500 for dinner. Good luck.

>>40895916
Fuck cheating. Good on you for sticking it out.

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>>40895459
just do a running average then. I use a 5 day block.

>>40895930
Life is cruel.

>Take up using MyFitnessPal in the end of December
>Start walking instead of sitting during breaks (I sit all day for work anyway)
>Start tracking calories, macros, etc
>Go to clinic halfway through March (flu tests, shit sucked)
>From last recorded weight, dropped 30 pounds
>Still got a fuck ton to go, but no brakes on the weight loss/gains train

We're all gonna make it, brahs. Just keep grinding.

>>40895982
I actually do measure myself almost every day, just saying that it's not necessarily that useful. Some people choose to weigh themselves daily for more data points, and some choose to measure weekly to avoid being discouraged by daily fluctuations. Having a graph of my results would be useful though, I may start recording my weight.

>>40896059
I've turned weighing myself in the morning every day into a habit. It's really helped my consistency

>>40894344
This.

Reminder that eating well makes you feel better and benefits nearly every aspect of your life, not just weight. Ability to focus, skin, joint health, general mood, soreness, fatigue, will all improve once you start eating more fruits and veggies and getting your necessary nutrients.

>>40896059
Weighing daily isn't really that bad. Kind of fun to see how much you'll sweat out overnight or poop out depending on how regular you are.

>>40895228
Dieting and just trying to be more mobile around your home. As the diet progresses go for short walks with GOOD FOOTWEAR. That's important at your size.

Then stuff like stationary bike and some kind of swimming aerobics.

>>40894122
>>40894129
Both of you can go die in a dumpster fire. If you're not here to get in shape then go back to your fucking tumblr blogs

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>>40895944
thanks senpai

>>40893861
The solution is to get a musclebro bf. As in - actual powerlifter bear guy, with thick slabs of muscle to go with the fat. Those guys take care of themselves, and you still get a fair bit of mass/chub.

>>40893861

Don't get one with the same fetish? Get one who wants skinny fagbois to tear up?

I once knew a gay black violinist who wanted to fuck neckbeards in the belly button.

Just go with it.

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>tfw trying to cut on 1750 calories per day
>see this shit in my newsfeed

Wtf is wrong with normies

>>40896261
1750 is plenty

>>40896283
Yeah, but that's like 1k calories in JUST BUTTER

>>40896261
How small are you that you cut at 1750?

>>40896292
oh is that what it is
I'm not a fan of the throw things into a casserole dish and bake it method of cooking
usually because I only cook for one

>>40896261
Whats wrong with it?
You dont have to eat the whole tray you know

Just a piece of meat, some rice, all with a hint of butter sounds like a good meal to me if you're not a fatass trying to lose weight

>>40896309
5'7 177lb manlel

>>40894785
it's great fiber but dried fruit has a ton of sugar in it. better off eating veggies or some oats if you're eating dried fruit for fiber

>>40893974
I want to know this feel

>>40893974
it fits but it's not comfy
I like my shirts to be baggy

>>40894863
Thanks for the update anon, details?

>>40895243
Eat less on the days you're going to drink.

>>40893943
Lmao why even post if you're just an ass, you sound like an angry fatty who directs his anger from being fat towards people trying to lose weight

>>40895243
>What do you guys do on weekend nights that isn't drinking?

Sit in my room alone forcing myself not to eat more of whatever is in my fridge.

Also, I watch movies with my friends or just enjoy each others company. You can find other activities to do with your friend besides getting shitfaced.

>>40893818
There's this New Orleans style restaurant near my uni called Tibby's that has pot roast and gravy fries.

>>40895424
Weight fluctuates throughout the week so taking it the same day each week at the same time and after my morning shit, makes the number more reliable, IMO

>>40896034
Keep it up anon! you're right, we are all gonna make it.

>>40896676
>I like my shirts to be baggy

Protip, you don't actually. You're just self-conscious that a fitted shirt will roll up exposing the fat roll on your gut, that it's hugging your chest with your gyno nips poking through or that the sleeves aren't covering your spaghetti arms. Yes I'm projecting like mad but I'm probably still right.

>>40897223
none of that discredits the fact that I like my shirts to be baggy

how bad are baked sr cream and onion lays

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Fellow fatties, you can do it.
My 2 year journey from 300 lbs, 5'11

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BUNCHA FAT LIL FREAKS IN HERE

is there any foofs that i can just munch out on? the quantity of food when cutting always makes me want to eat more/have more snacks. can i fill up on veggies or something?

>>40893993
Is it a cheat meal if I stay under my daily TDEE? If so, last sunday I had a large iced latte from Dunkin and 4 chocolate munchkins, 3 eggs, and 4 slices of bacon, a 615 cal burrito bowl for lunch, and eggs, ground turkey, and giardiniera scramble for dinner. Still only 1956 cals, but my TDEE is 2600 (I'm a fatty). Felt like I had a terrible cheat day until I looked at MFP and saw I was still under 2,000. I've been eating like 700-900 a day and doing IF.

Did I cheat, fit?

>>40897297
celery is great, so are cucumbers and most pickles

you're probably not hungry and are just used to eating like a fat slob

make sure you put the word HATE in the OP so we can find it with 4chan.org/fit/hate

>>40896309
>mfw 6'6 and currently eating 1500kCal a day

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>>40897223
i know this feel. used to hate when the wind would blow towards me, my baggy shirts would go from loose to exposing my keg of a belly and man tits

>>40897274
Bruh, this is basically me.

I started at 328 like 45 days ago.

Been eating on average 700-900 calories a day.

C25K 3 times a week.

Cycling with wife and kids to park a few nights a week.

Mountain hikes on Sat/Sun

Just hit 299.8 on the scale today. Still a long way to go, but so happy to not see that fucking 3 anymore.

How did you do it? What weight were you when you started lifting? Did you do shit tons of cardio? Please tell your tale anon.

Also, anyone else that wants to share how they did something similar, jump in.

>253 to 242 in two weeks

i'm doin it

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>>40897274
loose skin + timestamp or gtfo

>>40897334
>>40897334
>mfw one day I realized people can tell anyway, regardless of wind or fit and I was delusional thinking it wasn't the case

>>40897311
+1 for pickles

Also, I struggle with wanting ice cream at night. Frozen green grapes are fucking cash.

You can also get some no sugar jello and roll the grapes in a little bit of it and then freeze them to get "sour patch grapes," but they still come off as a bit too rich for me. straight up frozen grapes have changed my life.

>>40897338
go to 1500kCal a day m8 or you'll loose too much muscle and get loads of loose skin

>>40897357
>Frozen green grapes
nigga frozen blueberries is where its at. 43kCal/100g and tastes much better

>>40893804

It's not even my fault I'm fat. This psychiatrist bitch drugged me with the max dose of Olanzapine while locking me in a hospital.

I lost all my gains and now I'm just in surreal disbelief that I got fucked over this badly. Apparently, the damage that med does can be permanent and it is capable of reducing your Testosterone to below acceptable levels for men. I feel super tired all the time, to the point where I can't even do laundry. I've stopped taking the med after I was free but I still feel its effects.

>>40897368
I'm going to try this. Do they have the same texture as frozen grapes? I love they way they feel when you bite into them.

I love blueberries tho. Gonna tell my wife to go buy some and freeze them for tonight.

>>40897382
professional gains goblin eh

>>40897311
This is true. I grew up with the type of family who pushed seconds/eating until you cant eat anymore. Ive been working on transitioning from that and while I stick to it, its tough. I will go through my meal fast because im hungry and then be wanting more to eat. i know eating trash in that state is bad but im such a newfag to dieting that idk if i can just munch on cukes instead

>>40897390
I buy them prefrozen. Its like a semi-icecream texture. Your tongue will go blue as fuck so don't be surprised when she gets bluewaffle.jpg at night.

>>40897358
I just really want this weight off. I'm 31 so I'm doomed for loose skin anyway. Been fat for 10 years.

I will eat more when I start lifting, but I'm not sure when I will start. I have no buddies who lift, cannot afford a personal trainer, and don't have a fucking clue what I'm doing at a gym. Anyone have any good guides/videos I can watch to learn how to lift?

Why does starving feel so good lads?
I have lots of energy and dont have much hunger from since I wake up to when I come home from work

But once I start eating I get super slow, lazy, start overeat on snacks unless I put effort into controlling my hunger

>>40897407
I make my meal and then before I allow myself to eat it, calculate all the kCal values in one of those online things. Then force yourself to eat slow. Get used to it real quick.

Also, never reward yourself for anything with more food.

>>40897338
Absolutely, I was actually 304 pounds at 19 when my journey started. I had a huge wake up call after I got dumped by this girl I settled for (don't know how I use to still pull bitchs Lol) and had a doctor tell me that I was morbidly obese and put it to me quite frankly what was going to transpire, had my life not changed. I calorie counted and swam (Florida boy) until about 270ish. I've done PPL from the start, except over the past year I've turned it into back/shoulders-legs/abs/traps-chest/arms-rest-repeat. It's just more enjoyable to me. I've tried strength programs but I hated them. There not fun to me. I still go heavy on my compounds but I never feel like I go hard enough on Texas method type programming. I actually got all the way down to about 175 last year, slow bulked into the summer to about 195. But man, from September to over the holidays I DIRTY bulked and just lifted heavy until the end of January. Blew up to 228. My lifts got nuts, I was fat swoll. But then I realized that I needed to cut hard because he inner fatty in me was coming back to life. So I took those pictures on the right the other day. I fluctuate comfortably between 198-203 on any given day based on how strict I am with diet or how much cardio I do. Just keep this in mind, nothing worth achieving is obtained over night. Slip ups happen. Recover, move on from them. Do not give in to the fuck ups. Hope this can help

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>>40897418
I'm guessing you've never tried exercising while fasted then.

My god.

>>40897418
I don't think about it that much

>>40897418
Intestines don't need to work so much and you get free kCal from fat/muscle stores.

>>40897407
>its tough
yes, retraining your brain is very hard.
make sure you stick with it.

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>>40897345
don't say that anon, we were skinny just like everyone else... right?

>>40897437
what did your dr tell you would transpire w/ morbid obesity? i havent talked to a dr about it before

>>40897345
Suck my dick, loose skin is minimal on my lower belly. No stretch marks, fuck off feel poster

>>40897437

Thanks anon.

All of your lifting jargon went right over my head. How did you start lifting? How did you know how to use all the shit in the gym? I don't want to do shit wrong and either look like a fool or hurt myself or someone else.

When you calorie counted, how many calories were you eating per day?

>>40897463
Diabetes. And for me more specifically, my arthritis and joint issues in my knees would become so painful I wouldn't be able to walk. That's what I went in for. Knee pain was unbearable. I hardly can forget it, I'm 21 now. And I wake up fresh and feel 100% damn near everyday.

I used to go the gym and work out when I was 18

why didn't I stick with it

>>40897474
Get myfitnesspal follow it. Try to be on point with your protein and carb needs if you're trying to build muscle while you lose the weight, people will say this isn't possible. To them, I would beg to differ. I would say grasping and learning and fully understation nutrition in itself will be the most pain staking process of recovery. Working out was fun for me man, I have tons of friends and go do it and my cousins that I grew up with are YOKED. So I guess I had that advantage being able to jump in with them. I would also say, take most of the stuff you read on here with a grain of salt. Some of it I found really useful. Some of it laughable, even pathetic. I come here every once in awhile when I'm bored or have down time.

>>40897223
>>40897239
Accurate for me desu. I used to be a baggy shirt guy and now that I dont have rolls, rather just a bit of stomach and thigh I enjoy wearing tighter shirts.

>>40897474
read the sticky, you'll learn a lot more than by asking

>>40897510

Bruh how do I find calories of shit in my fitness pal? I downloaded the app on my phone and couldn't even find where it'd tell me what calories were in 100g of spaghetti so I went back to google

>>40897418
Because you are hungry your body puts you in a heighten state to find food.

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>Be me, 250 lb manlet
>Watch all my friends date and get married
>Too self conscious and depressed about weight
>Start eating right and running
>One year later
>Weight 125 lbs (too thin, but was pretty fit from running)
>Start lifting to put on some muscle mass
>Get to 150 lbs, good weight for me
>I really made it
>Stop worrying so much about my calorie intake, start having a beer or two per night
>That becomes a six pack per night
>Which becomes getting shitfaced every night and eating like shit when drunk

Here I am. 200 lbs. A closet full of clothes that don't fit and worsening social life. Getting back on the wagon, and going to lose the weight again.

God damn it was hard the first time, why was I such an idiot to screw it all up. I'll do it, though.

>>40897544
lol? you just go like you're gonna add it to your food diary and it'll show you everything. there's a + button on the main screen then you click on food and then search for whatever it is.

>>40897533
I read the sticky a while ago, but I guess I glossed over the lifting part. Checking it out now.

What chain gyms are not totally chad-tier?

How do I figure out how many calories are in the pizza from my local pizza place? It's been a while, and I've been planning on getting pizza for a week or so, but that episode of My 600lb life last night got me paranoid about overdoing it.

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>>40897576
Planet Fitness is ok if you want to eat free pizza and not get stronger

I'm getting to a point now, from morbidly obese to now just simply overweight and it feels like the intense willpower than I initially had is fading.

Anyone else going through this /fat/?

>>40897576
>What chain gyms are not totally chad-tier?
most of them. improving yourself is a good thing that people don't look down upon.

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>>40897578
buy another one and send it to a lab tech who you pay $2500 for sciencing the fuck out of it
or estimate it

not to pic related tho he sciences my home made lasagnas

>>40897606
I just checked and the only gym close to my house is LA fitness. Isn't that a chick gym? Also, I heard LA fitness was like crazy expensive.

>>40897655
visit it and see if you like the equiptment and can afford the price.

you're just nitpicking for a reason to not go to a gym

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>>40897297
You could try making mizeria "lite".
3 large cucumbers - 90 kcal
1 small low-fat yoghurt - 75kcal (to replace sour cream)
dill and/or chives - negligible

You can make it savory with salt and black pepper, or sweet with sugar (replace with 0 calorie sweetener), slightly less salt and black pepper. Yes it works together.

>>40896157
>>40894746
>>40894435
>>40894267
I gurantee I'm stronger and leaner than all of you. I'm just here to give advice. The reality is you're all pathetic fat edgy fucks who cut themselves when they don't lose weight fast enough. Negative reinforcement is almost never a good thing.

>>40894065
Rolling

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>tfw too morbidly obese and feel too ashamed to go to a gym

I feel like everyone is gonna be watching my fat and boobs and ass flop around and take a pic to post online

are there any fat friendly gyms bros

>>40897735
>I feel like everyone is gonna be watching my fat and boobs and ass flop around

that's disgusting and people will avoid looking at you to not see that.
quit making excuses to fix your life

>>40897735
I'm happy to see fat people in the gym. The only people who will judge you are dyels. If I see someone struggling I give them friendly tips. You're gonna make it anon.

Started a workout routine yesterday. I'm limited on where I can go. No car, walking on all the slopes is like grinding my feet to the bone, house is retarded in construction. But at least I got dumbbells. Tired of being a bloated carcass and I don't want diabetes.
Any other fat bastards have limited space to work out? What do you do?

>>40897735
most people respect a fatty putting in work at the gym, you're fat but at least you're actively trying to change that

>>40897735
No one at the golds gym I go to interacts with other people unless its someone they came with. I was nervous too but everybody is just doing there own thing, especially early in the morning or late at night when I tend to go.

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198 lbs 15% bodyfat am I still a fatty or just skinnyfat now?

>>40893883
that's the feel we all +350lbs fattys have to endure for an extra year, just don't give up anon, 360 to 258 in 15 months here

How to break sugar addiction lads? I always do well in the first half of the week until inevitably my parents or gf buy or offer something i can't refuse. Not having sweets around me isn't an option, i need to be better about refusing them

>>40897799
I bought one of those mini elliptical things to put under my desk. While I work at my comp I pedal away, its more activity then I was ever getting before. Im starting to work up to pacing or kinda aerobic dancing in my bedroom after work while I listen to music

>>40897735
I stare at fatties because i have a huge fat fetish, I would 100% Be staring at your shit flopping about.

I'd be the only one though.

>>40897590
I heard PF is getting pussified but holy shit, that's ridiculous.

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lads am i doing something wrong here?

using my fitness pal/online calculators to workout my macros for a cut

30 years old
male
5"11
215 pounds

they say i should be eating 1500 calories??! wtf, isn't that like super low? I know i'm a tubby bitch right now but i can't imagine me doing well on that low a number

what am I doing wrong?

>>40897920
>isn't that like super low?
no

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>>40897854
for me it was all about will-power and knowing that after the temporary pleasure of eating something shitty, i would feel like shit about myself

>>40897920
That's not super low. That's losing a pound a week for a normal size person. Super low is below 600.

>>40897920
>1500 calories
>low
Wait what? I've only had maybe 400 calories today and I felt like that was too much.

>>40897854
Look at your stretch marks/boobs/gut/thighs/any other ungodly fat part of you, and realize that's where it's going.
I did that for candy. For soda I realized that pouring a bunch of black liquid sugar in my body isn't natural or good for me.
But it does all depend on willpower. If you're that hooked on the stuff, you'll have withdrawals. And they really suck. But I'm almost over mine, and you can do it too, anon.

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Bros, would something like this be a good starting point for lifting?

Seems like I could do all the lifts described in the "stripped 5x5" in the sticky with this, but want to be sure before I shell out 200 sheckles. Is 200 USD a decent price?

>>40897607
What would be a good estimate? I'm debating between Hawaiian or meatlovers, leaning more toward meatlovers though

>>40897317
This is not the fph thread if you're being serious, this is the weight loss thread.

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>cut finished
>Appetite won't come back
>barely managing to get 1300 calories a day
>6'1" 209

It'll be nice to lose some more bodyfat but I'm scared I'm developing an eating disorder

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is it legal to lose weight while listening to Lily Alan and being straight?

>>40897854
i needed a few months of eating less and less sugary shit.

last sweet thing was 1 kitkat last saturday. you can do it. it takes time.

>>40897832
Are you the anon that got convinced to go to the gym here?

>>40897590
my dad goes to planet fitness and uses stair climbers and treadmills for like 1h a weekday. hes fat (low 300s) and been fat for most of his life and i think his lazy eating habits passed on to me (240 lbs atm). he does a bit of cardio but doesnt measure/count what he eats and i dont think he'll be losing weight very effectively if he does at all. i love him and it pains me to watch.

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>>40898095
Offered my parents to track their calories for them to help lose weight and they said no. And they know how calories work.

>>40898086
No I started back in November because I realized how sick I felt after Thanksgiving.

Fuck, I'm feeling guilty about even considering ordering pizza. I think I'm going to go to the store and get a salad to calm my cravings now, and i'm going to get some whole grain tortillas and a tomato to make some chicken tacos for dinner

>>40897601
Yeah, last time when I lost weight, I stopped after losing 22 pounds, even though I still had about 15 more pounds to lose. Luckily I haven't gained it back, so I'm here to lose those last few pounds. You can do it too, mang.

>>40898164
Make a tortilla pizza
Get some cheese, chicken chunks, pizza sauce, olives or whatever, put it on a corn tortilla and pop it in the oven at 350 for 10 mins

>>40897996
Hell no
Just think about how many months of gym membership you can get from that 200$ instead

That's a good starting point for lifting
not buying a bunch of scrap metal off locals

kek i get tired when going up some stairs I guess its time to stop bulking, anyone has any stories of PSMF while on testosterone? (replacement dose)

>>40898282
do you put it on a cookie sheet anon?

Flour tortilla?

>>40897996
do gym first and then figure out if you want/need a home gym

>>40896489
It is a good feel.

Keep at it trust me.

http://www.powerhealth.gr/en/xs-green-tea-en/

Do these have calories?

Is it ok to drink once every day?

>>40898304
The only gym close to me is LA fitness, which is $50 dollars initiation fee and $30 per month. That's $410 for the first year and $360 after that. Seems steep compared to buying my own shit. I did find a nicer one than that. Is home equipment really a meme?

What do you snack on when trying to lose your fat?
All I can think of is fruit since I can't tolerate eating nuts.

>>40898357
And still the $200 would be 5 months

In those 5 months you can see if you even like going to gym or not
Being healthy and strong does not necessarily require weightlifting

You're just better off trying lifting out in a gym and then deciding whether you want more of it or not

>>40898368

diet coke

>>40898368
just keep drinking water until the hunger goes away

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>>40898394
Not gonna make it

IF is not a meme. I don't feel hungry throughout the day and I have to force myself to eat when I'm not hungry just to get the calories in.

10/10 would recommend, fat loss ez mode.

>>40898499
lost 100 pounds and look better than most people
I already made it, not at my end goal but 3 years ago I wouldnt even dream of being like this

>>40894065
I don't want it.

I started the year at 260 and am now down to 255 while also getting a shot ton stronger.

>>40898368
>snacking on nuts when cutting
wat

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>>40893993

I had a great calorie counting week and went home [spoiler]w/ my tiny 100lb Asian gf[/spoiler] to visit my family and now it's gigantic dinners and homemade cookies all day

Even with exercise this week I'm fucked

>>40893993
I ate a whole large pepperoni pizza yesterday.

That was after I did a rather long 2 1/2 hour full body workout.

At least thats how I justified it to myself.

Forgive me padre, for I have sinned.

>>40898615
overhead press your gf after every bite

>>40898584
>5lbs 3 months
keep going man.

How to break sugar addiction lads? I always do well in the first half of the week until inevitably my parents or gf buy or offer something i can't refuse. Not having sweets around me isn't an option, i need to be better about refusing them

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>>40898584
>mfw lost 8kg or 17+lbs in 8 weeks

>>40898651
I didn't start working out to lose weight, to be honest. I started so that I could get stronger and to have something to do.

I gained a lot of muscle and think that's why I didn't lose as much

But progress is progress!

>>40898676
Keep it up dude

im a girl 5'4"-5'5" and 185 pounds

what's a good weight where i would be thicc and healthy? thanks

>>40898813
u already thicc tho ;)

>>40898813

110-120 muscular

>>40898813
Totally depends on where/how you carry it.

I would immediately aim for 150-160 ish as a short term, with maybe 130-140 a more sustainable long term weight.

>>40898310
Different anon here, but yeah put it on a cookie sheet. Idk how you'd even make it and move it into the oven without one.

>>40898513
Agreed

>>40898831
>u already thicc tho ;)
Fuck off nigger thicc doesn't mean a fucking fatass


>>40898813
you should be aiming for 30% body fat with muscle underneath regardless of end weight

>>40898813
I'm with >>40898852. Depends on how you carry it. Some body pics would help.

>>40898659
have you told your parents and gf that you're eating healthier? that should stop them somewhat from offering you food. i know my family has a big trait of offering each other extra/unwanted food and not letting things go to waste, which i'm trying to break somewhat.

i feel like i might be an edge case in terms of willpower bc i just got fed up one day and violently angry about being fat and disgusting

so i'm kinda taking out years of built up resentment on food. eating too much means failure. it means continuing to be physically repulsive. i don't want that.

when you're trying to not eat some candy, cake, etc. just think about how much you want to look attractive instead of being an obese blob.

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Anyone here get random /sadfag/ during cuts?

>wake up feeling down like I had a bad dream
>just feel off
>go to work and have a great day
>start feeling down on way home
>think of her

Haven't felt this way in a long time. Diet is going very well though

>>40899083
Reminder that you're working out so you get a better girl than the one you had

>>40898851
That's pretty low. I was aiming for ~140 or 20-25% bodyfat.
>>40898852
Yes, 160 is my short term goal. I broke my weight loss up into two.
185 > 160
160 > 145
>>40898892
Isn't 30% too high

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>>40899083
You've fallen in love once you'll fall in love a thousand times more anon. Just do your best beat your sadness and show it who's boss.

>>40893818
I unironically just cheat with a soda every now and then.

After around 2 months of "dieting", in which I've simply just stopped eating garbage and started cooking my food, and paying SLIGHT attention to my calorie intake, I've lost almost 8 kg, and have discovered a newfound willpower I didn't have before.

Getting up and getting out of the house is still a bit of a chore, as at my core i'm lazy as fuck, but i've also used that to my advantage. Rather than eat more, I'm just lazy and eat less because the only food I keep in the house is food I have to cook/prepare.

With this willpower I can actually afford to give myself something every now and then, even if it's literally just a can of coke once a month.

>>40899117

No, you're working out for you.

Sure, it'll help you find a better girl, but you shouldn't make that part of your mindset. Your self-improvement should not be tied to some kind of desperate need for validation from other people.

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>>40899132
See this for the body fat %.

Today so far I've eaten one 80cal pepperoni stick.

My dinner:
600g chicken breast
2 big peppers (red/yellow)
2 medium onions
1 big broccoli stalk
100g rice
A bit of oil to cook it in
Some sweet chili sauce (Probably additional 150calories)

Which gets me to:

about 900 for chicken + rice, + whatever in the veggies, + 200-300 for the oil and sauce. Call it around 1400 total.

My MFP suggested calorie goal is 2050 per day. My personal target is ~1500.

Lookin' good bros.

>>40899371
>pepperoni stick.
processed meats for their carcinogenic effect?

I don't think I'll ever understand why people still eat them. I guess people still smoke though.

>>40899448

They're fucking delicious. When I haven't eaten for a long time and I'm absolutely ravenous I eat one. Love it.

>>40899484
spoken like a true addicted fattie

>188cm 110kg
>bp 120kg, dl 190 kg, squat 160kg
>tfw still look like dyel skinnyfat

Hold me brehs

>>40897306
if you're within your calorie limits, and that includes below/equal to your TDEE, the only thing that matters is if you will lost motivation/willpower by eating whatever you eat.

Otherwise, try not to blow up sodium levels, pay attention to macros, and eat basically whatever you want so long as you're under TDEE, but definitely stick to the healthy chicken + rice stuff.

>>40899532

Why? I stay in my cut goal and my dinner is a big healthy chinese style stir fry that I can happily eat regularly so I won't re-gain weight after.

My entire goal and all of my posts in this thread have been about creating a sustainable diet that you can:
1) Use while cutting, maintenance, or gaining by just adjusting portions/ratios
2) Enjoy, thus not fall off it.

What I'm eating today is what I'll eat when I hit my goal weight. And when I finally sort my life out a bit (running my own business only semi-successfully right now) and go back to the gym, I can use the same diet to gain muscle as well, just up the quantities/increase protein ratio.

I strongly believe that constantly changing your diet to either keep up with the memes or "Ok I've keto'd off the first 15 pounds now to switch to IF paleodiet but vegan on the full moon, then I'll move over to 5 meals a day after the next 15" etc is just a road to failure. The best thing you can do is learn the fundamentals of nutrition and apply them while keeping count of your calories. And if you do that correctly you can
a) Have a diet that works at any point in your goals
b) Eat the occasional pepperoni stick

But you know, have fun with your all or nothing diet and self righteous shitposts. See you in 3 threads when you post "I just ate 18 chimichangas and an entire cake with the word Diabetes written on it in fudge. ;("

Even so, I hope you make it.

>>40897735
I think it's kinda inspiring to see fat people try to better themselves yknow like i respect that

>>40897920
5'10" 161lbs and eating 1200 kcal daily. 1500 is plenty man.

>>40898831
Big difference between being a fat fuck and thicc

>>40899631
You seem to be ignoring the whole point of my post for some reason and jumping to these strange ideas of maintainable diets.

I said that pepperoni is a carcinogen and questioned why anyone would voluntarily consume it. You said because they are delicious, and I replied that that mentality is one espoused by an addicted fattie.

>>40899772

Ahh my brain didn't really register that it's a carcinogen. I mean... how? It's just cured meat. What's carcinogenic? You grind up some pork, make a sausage, then I dunno heat and magic or something and boom. Where do they add cancer?

Also I can't help but want to outline the sustainable diet thing over and over because I see so many people lining themselves up for a shafting with their approach to this shit.

>>40899813
Processed meats are group 1 carcinogens, which are meats which have been cured, salted, fermented or smoked. They cause stomach and colorectal cancer just as surely as smoking causes lung cancer.

https://www.cancer.org/latest-news/world-health-organization-says-processed-meat-causes-cancer.html

>>40899872

Huh. I wonder what goes into those processes that would cause that.

>>40899900
Life causes cancer.

>>40899872
>just as surely as smoking causes lung cancer
Stop spreading bullshit. It is literally in the WHO guideline that being in the same group doesn't mean that it is just as likely to cause cancer. http://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/

TDEE is like 4603, BMR is 2969. I eat about 2400 rn a day, is this healthy or do I need to up it a bit?

>>40899947
>manages to read an FAQ that tells him processed meat cause cancer
>still argues for the consumption of processed meats because it's not as dangerous as smoking

Nothing I said was bullshit. One is riskier than the other, but that does not mean there isn't evidence one causes cancer. You are the one spreading bullshit.

>>40899900
>I wonder what goes into those processes that would cause that.
There are a few theories. For processed meats it may be the addition of nitrates which form nitrosamines. Also the formation of heterocyclic aromatic amines when meat is cooked at a high temperature.

>>40900041
How tall are you, jesus

>>40900117
6' 5"

>>40900074
I just took your post as implying the cancer risks are the same, and not that the confidence in it being carcinogenic is the same, because that seemed like useless information to me in the context of a 4chan post, but whatever.

>>40900153

Still though. I'm 6'4 and my TDEE is either 26 or 2900 depending on whose calculator I use.

What's your weight? If you don't mind.

>>40899872
>just as surely

Cancer Stat Facts: Stomach Cancer
Estimated New Cases in 2016 26,370

Cancer Stat Facts: Colon and Rectum Cancer
Estimated New Cases in 2016 134,490

Cancer Stat Facts: Lung and Bronchus Cancer
Estimated New Cases in 2016 224,390

Conclusion: more people smoke than eat meat.

>>40900407
330lb. I'm on /fat/ for a reason haha, just started on my diet/workout last week

>>40900432

Yeah man, no judgement. We're all in this thread. Honestly 330 at 6'5 is, obviously not good, but, I bet you look "quite chunky" rather than "slim for a hippo"

>>40900469
yeah, I can hide it pretty well with a button down shirt at the moment, I'm lucky as far as that goes

>looking for low cal meals in my college cafeteria
>even the tortillas used for burritos are 250-300cal
>not counting fillings which they always overdo
>a veggie burger on wheat with cheese works out to 375 cal
>counting toppings + oil used to cook, still less than 500cal
>both mfp and college cafeteria website agree
>filling as fuck

And this is how I decided to eat one a day until graduation.

>>40900562
If your dorm has a kitchen or you live off campus I might just doing as much meal prep on a weekend or weeknight as possible and generally avoiding food service.

>>40900561

I'm 6'4 and like..... 240? maybe 250. But I did a couple years of lifting and boxing training and stuff so I'm above averagely muscular as well. I've got that like.... muscle gut/bro physique going where I've got muscles but my diet went to shit so there's a layer of fat and a bit of a gut. I don't look terrible but I'm very self critical because I like to think I'm better than everyone so I'm very on myself about making sure I actually am. Thus the need to shred down and my being here. I feel my being here is particularly bad because I legit knew better. A lot of people in these threads like.... grew up in fat families being taught lies about nutrition and so wound up in a shitty spot. I don't have any of those excuses I just got fat and lazy. Point is, being a really big guy lets you hide a ridiculous amount of fat without looking terrible but holy shit you can FEEL it. You know it's there. Hope you make it bro. Do 25% of your TDEE off if you can. I mean 2400 into 4600 is pretty severe. IF you can make it go for it but I'd think about 3k. That's still 1600 daily deficit. See how you feel. Nutrition is the main thing. If you've got good nutrition in your calories it SIGNIFICANTLY improves the cutting experience.

Eating 2400 calories of shit is going to be way harder over the long term than 2400 calories of good food with micronutrients. If your body is feeling good then hunger is just one small complaint. But if you're eating garbage, that hunger might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I'm doing asian-y flavored stir fries constantly and it's working great. I eat like 1500 calories a day and am less hungry than when I was eating 3k of junk.

>>40900608
I definitely do already but there's still times when I'm on the way to something, people want to study over lunch, etc. Now those things aren't excuses to eat like shit anymore

>>40900650
Hey, thanks for the advice here. I'm in a tough spot at the moment because I live on campus at my college, so dining center food is the best I can get. It's not trash calories but it's not ideal either. I load up with 2 apples a day, carrots, broccoli and celery, I hope that's enough to maintain nutrients on that end. What I feel my main problem is is protein, it's so hard to get the needed amounts when the only meat in the entire place is in a cheeseburger. Sometimes I'll eat at like Jimmy Johns, but that's a drain on my wallet and probably worse for me than I realize.

Honestly the weirdest change is that I feel like I actually eat more than I used to, but it's actually because I'm eating a varied diet instead of shoving my face with endless carbs or whatever. Adjusting to actually needing to time out my meals and include nutrition has been weird for me so far. I'll aim for 3k for now.

thanks again for the advice, we all gonna make it

any MFP fatties add me up, name's fakomilif, not a lot of people use mfp for this but i like to look at other people daily logs, give them a like when they lose some weight, maybe leave a comment, etc.

Plus i feel empathetic when i see someone eating 5k cals one day and then having to fast for the next day

>>40894820
im at 1500 calories since 3 months ago , can this affect me ? or starvation mode is a meme?

>>40901039
Meme