Motivation?

>>40888141
https://youtu.be/p3Ameu71l2M

>>40888141
I find it helps to surround myself with images of success. We men are very susceptible to the influence of people we admire and look up to. Use that psychological quirk to your advantage.

discipline > motivation

>>40888202
Autism

>>40888141
to constantly be aiming to the top, it helps to have hit rock hard bottom... It's hard to approciate sucess when you've never experienced failure.

>>40888208
Motivation is good, but on motivtion alone people go to the gym for like one or two months and then stop

>>40888200

This is probably a bigger life issue, but I don't have anyone at all in life I admire or look up to anymore. I don't even have any goals.

I'm pretty successful, but I don't have any goals. I'm kind of... where I want to be, I guess, and can't think of more I'd like to do. If you told me I was going to die tomorrow, I think I'd be like "welp, alright, that was fun, I wish I was going to be able to see the next few Avengers movies though."

>>40888202
This makes a little more sense to me.

>>40888141
Motivation is great for getting started, discipline is needed for continuing

It is not about motivation, but about discipline.

>>40888160
this is so autistic

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>>40888141
If you need motivational words, you're not gonna make it.

roids

>>40888264
I liked the line about thinking how far you've come and making the present moment count for something. I've beat myself up plenty for not starting to work out sooner in life, so that resonated with me.

>>40888202
this

Anyone who thinks motivation is the only thing that helps over a solid mindset and keeping disciplined is retarded

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i think about beating up leftists/antifas and it really keeps me going (being serious)

>>40888874
This. And for upcoming race/civil war.

You have the motivation already otherwise you wouldn't be making this thread. It's discipline you're looking for.

What you need is not motivation. Motivation is the temporary desire to do what you should be doing to improve. It's effortless, but it leaves you. Discipline is the ability to do what must be done no matter how little you want to. To take the lack of motivation you'll feel more often than motivation and still make something great of your time. It's much more difficult, but where motivation is temporary, discipline can be everlasting. Where motivation is fragile, discipline is stalwart to the man who works for it.

>>40889052

So you're saying everyone absolutely hates this shit (or at least most do), and the rest just soldier through it and do it despite not wanting to?

I feel like I meet so many people who act like they FUCKING LOVE working out, and they just live for it. Are they just weird outliers?

>>40888141
Discipline, Discipline and Discipline

>>40888141
How did he get in shape like that, did he cut all the way down then bulk?

>>40888202
How do I get discipline back? I used to be much more disciplined when I was younger. 26 going on 27 and I feel like I'm out of gas.

When I was 18 I played sports in college, lifted on the side, and had some hobbies. Now I think about killing myself about 90% of my waking hours. I've gotten fat, my work has suffered. I feel aimless and I don't know what to do to get back.

>>40888202
This.
Discipline implies you will go out and lift and eat clean when you don't really want to.
Motivation implies you need memes to constantly tell you why improving/working on yourself is important

>>40892401
>Discipline implies you will go out and lift and eat clean when you don't really want to.
>Motivation implies you need memes to constantly tell you why improving/working on yourself is important

They're both important. Motivation without action is useless, but it is supposed to "feed" discipline. Discipline without motivation leads to burnout. You need reasons to be disciplined, which is what motivation is for. It's the "thinking, planning" part. Discipline is the action.

OK, back to work!

>>40888141
You shouldn't learn to tolerate it, you should learn to enjoy it. If you can't enjoy working out, you'll never have enough motivation and you'll never make it.

>>40888141
Honestly I've found that the most motivating thing for me is no porn. I tried no fap for a while and it just doesn't feel right. On no fap I feel like an absolute god for a couple weeks, in terms of motivation, but after that I just get horny so much that I can't do anything else. It got to the point where it took a lot of willpower to keep myself from fapping. That wasted a lot of time because my mind would be constantly on "well I could leave my room to get stuff done or I can stay here and fap whenever I want." I decided to switch to no porn and just fap to girls I like irl. It's a weird feeling the first few times. It's like cables are being pulled out in my head and put into different ports. I feel different. I feel more humbled and more down to Earth. I have a lot more motivation than before and it's easier to sustain than no fap. I guess in a perverse and subconscious way, it makes me realize why I'm working so hard, for the things that really matter, which are the girls I fap to that I like irl. It's a strange feeling, like I'm a completely different person when I do this regularly.

>>40892275
It's a vicious cycle. Getting fat means you have less energy. Less energy and it's easier to let things slip. So you get fatter, less energy, repeat.
You gotta make a change and start progressing in at least one area. Clean up your diet, get better sleep, do mild exercise, then build from there. Make a friend hold you accountable for small improvements.

>>40892630
>Make a friend hold you accountable for small improvements.

That's probably what I need the most. I had some good success when I was younger. Patented medical technology when I was 22. It's just gotten easy to rest on my laurels, and whenever I say I need to get my shit together, my support group (friend, family, etc.) always pat me on the back and my anxiety goes away.

My early success has led me to becoming lazy, which has been detrimental to my growth.

>>40888141
to remember the feelings i had when i was fat.
and seeing difference

>>40891062
a lot of people hate it at first, but it gets to the point where you can't live without it

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>>40888202

>>40888141
go to /pol/, become racist, and realize you need to prepare for the upcoming race war. Create urgency.

you may require some motivation to start, but once you get going, if you still rely on "motivation", you're never going to make it.

once you get going, it should just become routine and you don't even think about it

>>40888141
Dunno what to tell you. I fucking love going to the gym. Putting in a good workout just makes me feel good. If you can't hit that stride, welp, you're just not going to make it if you hate it.