/fraud/ Steroids general

fuck off faggot

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>>40881910

>>40881901
is the guy in the middle mocking niggers by tanning himself?

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>>40881927
no.

>>40881901
Weeks 1-2
EQ1500mg
Week3-16
eq1g

Week 1-5
Test e 750
Week 6-20
Test e 250/300

Week 7-20
mast e 600
week 7-20
tren e 600

cjc no dac 3x100 ed
GHRP2 5x100 ed
LDG 10m first 12 week
GW last 14 weeks

adex .5 eod suitable to change
Caber on hand
finasteride on hand


What am I missing?


leanish bulk and may shred up after, sitting at 10% 98kgs would like to get some mass for classic physique

>>40881938
Is their goal to look like misshapen turds? god, professional body building is a mental illness

>>40881959
Not any more damaging than ramming yourself full speed at other men ramming themselves full speed at you; and I love football.

I agree competing is very gay and complete pageantry.

>>40881944
Soes anyone here use IGF1 lr3?
Is it the true cause of big guts?
Does it increase gains?

>>40881989
Not worth it unless you're willing to drop the 1500-2k.

>>40881944
Curious, what was your previous stack?

What would be the best oral in a lean bulk cycle.

Test C
Tren A
Oral?

>>40882056
700mg tren, 500 test
kicked with dbol finished with anacar, 11 weeks

>>40881998
I thought it was fairly cheap?
does irt really grow your gut?


>>40882079
Drol if youre game, I'm not anymore, wussed out thinking of addint tbol 6 weeks with ldg on
>>40881944
Any suggestions boyos?
only want 1 oral so either kicker or polisher

>>40882095
>>40882079
Sdrol if youre game*

>>40881979
Who cares if it is damaging it just looks stupid

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Tfw with all this test I had an unironic dream about cuddling and groping a twink

what do

>>40882083
How was this? Very close to the stack im considering

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>tfw thingken about upcoming summer
Fuck I need to cut quicker.

>>40881944
Would you run t3 on this for enhanced protein synthesis?
or some kind of kicker?
not a fan of sdrol and dont want the water from dbol or anadrol, would 6 weeks of 50mg tbol go alright?
or should I do 4 weeks of dbol and hope the bloat will go away shortly?

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>>40881959
Used to be just about looking good, like a male beauty pageant. Now it's about arbitrary judgements on size, proportions, symmetry, etc while they dehumanize themselves as much as possible

>>40882244
It was great, but I did lower the tren to 500 and stopped the var 2 weeks early, was at 100mgs ed and rose my liver, that's why I'm nervous for orals again, but tbol seels like an easy on the body drug and I've heard stacking it with LDG can get similar results but more kept mass due to no water and less sides, but iF I was to to it again I'd go 300 test e/t 500 tren a 400-500 mast p and finish with stana at maybe just 40-50, would be way better, I'm just trying slightly different cycles to seee how they stack

>>40881979
Well, in one case the damage is mostly just to your skeletal/muscle system whearas going really far out with the hormones is going to have a profound effect on the entire organism including liver, kidneys, brain, intestines, bladder, even smaller organs like the pancreas and prostate.

Not entirely comparable

Do any of you have problems coming with women? I'm seeing two women, one is a little chunkier but really passionate in bed which I love, and the other has the body of a goddess and is a little more reserved. I have to wear a condom with both and I just can't feel shit. I can come by myself though. It's weird.

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I've noticed PPL such as this one
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149807833

Are 6/days a week. Will this balance out to be a similar workload, to say, the 3 day Texas Method? Obviously one is for hypertrophy and one is for strength, but in terms of recovery and stress.

>>40882311
Nah. Football kills your brain more than anything else. Fairly comparable tho.

>>40882326
you're too ugly senpai. you cant feel shit because they arent trying to pleasure u. they trying to reduce your sex drive so they can get beta bux off u without having to fuck.

>>40882347
soccer has more concussions

>>40882353
LOL they both are more successful professionally than I am.

>>40882289
Thanks. How long are you waiting between cycles?

>>40882362
women usually are relative to effort because quotas and they have more free time because they aren't at the gym for 3 hours each day

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How long, realistically, until AAS become deregulated enough for purchase ease and availability as they are in Mexico? Without an Rx, competitive prices, new chemicals being researched, etc...

I give it 25 years, if we get non establishment politicians

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>>40882378
Holy shit you could not be more wrong, except for maybe in roles like pharmaceutical sales rep or technical recruiter and shit where looks and a bubbly personality matter.

Most professional women have to work harder and be more on-the-ball to be recognized the same as men.

I've heard this over and over, especially with the law industy, Big Law in particular. Both of these women are lawyers and they are fucking awesome at their jobs.

Why all the hate in /fraud/ BTW? I'm looking for advice on how to make my dick more sensitive. Currently on test (TRT dose) and var, but I've been this way since before I started roiding.

>>40882369
I BC, my bloods where fine after that, my heart and cholesterol are always fine because I'm vegan, but my liver was up towards the end, so I think 6-8 weeks max before I do that big blast, but It feels like it's missing something

>>40882369
But It's a 120-12week max cycle, P would be a little better but simply for cost I'd stick with e, the mast and tren should be ED short esters though, stana doesnt need to be ran crazy as everyone thinks either and 4 weeks is plenty, I will always run TUDCA from now on

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>>40882440
they have to work harder because the standard is that women sit at their desk and play farmville

thats like saying Jason Blaha has to work harder to get recognized as a professional bodybuilder. It's ludicrous.

>>40882378
My gf goes pretty hard in the gym famalam, 5 training day with the 6th day plyo, then LISS 4 or 5 times a week.
Btw any girls looking for a great lean bulk stack for bikini/figure

Week 1-2
GW501516 10mg 1 hour pre workout

Week 3-14
GW501516 20mg per day 10mg wake up 10 mg 1 hour pre workout

Week 1-12
lgd-4033 10 mg day in morning

Week 1-12/ as long as want
MK-677 25mg day in morning

Week 1-12 mk-2866
15 mg day

Week 7-12
anavar 10 mg day 5mg in morning 5mg 30 mins pre workout
Run this 1 or 2x a day through out
http://www.bulknutrients.com.au/products/cleanse-liver-support-capsules.html

tudca is better but unncecary for that

>>40882531
the top 5% of male high school athletes work out with more dedication than 99.99% of female athletes.

>>40882503
Holy fuck /fraud/ has been invated by the alt right.

>>40882562
She as 13.5 inch arms and can dl 2 plate for reps, I'm very proud of how far she has come, not comparing her to men but I'm pleased with results

>>40882440
A condom is gonna make shit less sensitive, you could try a different brand maybe. There's one type, skyn I think, that's apparently pretty good. As for not busting a nut, that's mostly mental. Just gotta get more comfortable with these chicks and stop worrying about shit.

>>40882562
Please return to r9k.

>>40882531
>bikini/figure
>anavar
how can someone be this retarded ?
ANY steroid usage masculanize women,only gay ass faggots like ''muscle girls''.

>>40882588
how much cancer does she have form the GW5

and how much larger clit/penis from the lvd and mk28?

i am serious here, pls respond (at least about the clit part)

>>40881938
Those are the worst spray on tans I have ever seen. They literally didn't blend anything.

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>>40882588
A nurse at my gym can deadlift 2.5 plates for reps. What's your point? Steroids also mean more to women, or else they look like men, and inferior men. Women have to be natural to produce the most viable offspring.

>>40882622
clit like a diamond

>>40882680
theyre actually fine, fuckwit.

>>40881989
One of rich pianas first vids after he started his most recent program goes into how/why HGH (and by extension IGF1) affects your intestines. Worth a watch, but I can't be bothered to find it.

>>40882730
Doesn't the gut thing only happen with hgh AND insulin tho

>>40882622
Literally none, she gets shoulder acne or corse. never hear of ldg and mk28 increasing clit size

>>40882741
I don't know what 100% causes Palumboism, but it definitely involves both of those.

I would never use insulin myself, mostly because I wouldn't notice the benefit because im not at that level. The risks are terrible. HGH is a wonderdrug, but insulin can make you diabetic. Look at Jason Beundia the men's physique Olympia champ. He fuucked himself up.

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Fuck these nocturnal boners are insane. Measured my dick at 8.9" life's good.

Fucking retards shooting near the Capitol

>>40882347
No kidding, it's because of the helmets and the fact they don't train the neck muscles as much as they used to.

They get used to smashing their heads when wearing helmets all the time, it doesn't hurt as much but it has a big impact over time. And the neck usually acts as a way to trap force.

Still though, you can't compare physical assault to fucked endocrine practices. Apples and oranges.

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>>40882582
>/fraud/ has been invaded by the alt right

Problem?

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>>40882582
Pic very related

>>40882333
Texas method sucks unless you've already got a really strong base. Such as playing a demanding sport like wrestling/football etc.

If you're switching to TM from SS you've basically been meme'd into shit programs.

>>40882531
Answers pls boys is tbol 50 ed for 6 weeks the do or should I go hard on anadrol for a month 50-100 ed or something, I really dont wanna bloat up

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>>40882858
I did:

Shitty HS coach program >> SS >> Texas method >> Grayskull LP (shit happens) >> PPL

>>40882849
>>40882843
Sven quit samefagging

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>>40882913
Apologize

>>40881901
After looong time thinking I've finally decided to hop on the bike as a 19 (soon to be 20) year old natty.

15-week cycle, with
Test-E 300mg/ml - E3D from week 1-15
Superdrol 20mg - ED week 1-2
Superdrol 10mg - ED week 3-4
Arimidex 0.5 - E3D from week 1-15, might change the dosage if I'm not comfortable with it

Rest: Week 16-17 nothing

PCT:
Nolva 40mg - ED week 18-19
Nolva 20mg - ED week 20-21

It's basically Leddit

>>40882974
Don't do sueprdrol on a first cycle unless you already bought it

>bikes only a small distance
>that fucking resulting pump in my legs
I honestly feel sorry for those who won't try frauding at least once in their life

>>40882974
No tudca and why so little test?

>>40882974
You have the concentration of the Test-E but what's the dosage?

What should I expect for this.

16 weeks
200mg Test-E E3D
300 EQ E3D

Pretty light, because I'm cutting anyways and it will be plenty to preserve my muscle for the summer. It will carry me almost through July. I should have enough Shredz to get a girlfriend by then. Right now I am simply too built fat.

I expect to lose 30-40 lbs of fat in the 20 weeks until my cycle ends (haven't started yet).

I am 6'1 250lbs and probably 24%bf

Although I keep the fat very well, it's dispersed evenly. Don't drink so I don't have a beer gut either, just a slight belly when I'm not wearing a shirt.

>>40883183
Sludge blood

>>40883183
lose weight first fatty

>>40883183
this post is bait

When they say inject 50mcg bilaterally do they mean 25/25mcg or 50/50mcg?

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These Chinamen aren't playing with the shipping speed. 2 days from acceptance to me.

What dose do you guys run epi at? I've been running var up until now.

>>40883257
Like 4 weeks at 50 pwo would work or no?

Is $4 per MG about right for pharma caber?

>>40883275
The Chinamen are not the issue here, Walter.

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>>40883318
I paid 1.87 per mg but they're the 2mg tabs.

Anyone here pin 1g of test their first cycle? Only way to go IMO.

>>40883275
What is the equivalent wardrobe for men to wear to the gym? I want to get more mires but I pretty much just wear basketball shorts and a t-shirt every day at the gym

>>40883406
Ok cool. And there's no way it's faked if it's legit pharma brand with a box and glass twist top vial and everything? First tren cycle in may not tryna have leaky titties

>>40881938
i swear i always lose interesting in building a physique when i see these abonimations. Even tho its not the case, i feel like im part of these ugly fags

>>40883470
Moosy you know the go
My cycle is massive atm and don't wanna fuck my shit, should I go with Tbol 50mg 6 weeks, adrol 4 weeks, dbol 4 weeks or sdrol 4 weeks, I'm trying to stay dry and Im running LDG for extra kickstart

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Looking for opinions. So already have it set that I'm gonna pin at some point in my life, the plan right now is late 30s or whenever natty test starts dropping. This is 2.5 years worth of progress after starting from a fatfuck. My question is, would it be more worth to pin rn and max out my gains or keep lifting for the "natty potential" meme?
20 years old

Ty cheating frauds

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>>40883465
>no way it's faked
I would assume not. If it's Turkish caber there's a website or something run by the government where you can verify that it's legit but I doubt it'd be faked. On my bottles the little desiccant pack was attached to the twist top.

>>40883434
Probably a stringer and leggings if you were massive but I'm kinda conservative with my gymwear and just go with above the knee shorts and an underarmour shirt that's somewhat tight.

If I wanted to be a raging faggot I'd wear leggings in a light color so you could see my bulge and some stringer that didn't cover my nips.

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>>40882913
>Sven

The TDS host or Longshanks?

>>40883491
>>40883286
>>40883257
help me pls im goneskies

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Looking at some pics when i was still shredded,, FUCKKKK weighing 96 kg here

knowing that i am weighing almost 10kg heavier than this picture with minimum fat gain. SOON I WILL BE 100KG SHREDDED.

THE WORLD IS NOT READY FOR SUCH GREATNESSS

>>40883497
After 2.5 years you have probably made most of your natty gains FYI

>>40883732
blast?

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>>40883780
currently on ~850mg test + 80mg mast-e. Will add dbol @ 30mg at the last 4 weeks.

currently weighing 104kg, hoping to add 2kg more before i am gonnna cut on low dose test + mast again

summer mires will be off the hook.

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I wonder what Calum runs

>>40883834
>850mg test
didn't know you ran it so high. do you run tren or other orals like var, epi, sdrol, or drol?

>>40883497
If you legit made this progress in 2.5 year natty then you got amazing genetics. I would say keep lifting natty for another year/ year and a half and then decide from their. Either way you are going to do good so it's really up to you.

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>>40883860
It's too high for me. I can't handle the mental effects like paranoia i get lately. Will try and lower the dose to 750mg again while adding dbol

I did; winstrol, masteron and test. Soon i will try dbol for the first time.

I will never do tren because i am mentally handicapped and the mental game is no good for me

>>40883497
pin now, why not look the best in your prime age?

>>40883882
Thanks for the motivation man. I'll keep at it for a bit more then

>>40883912
I heard pinning early on can fuck you up later way . I'd be willing to do it, but not if i can still squeeze a bit more out of my body on its own

>>40883903
u p t h e A I

>>40883941
that's cuz youngsters who pin early often have no idea what they're doing, and end up setting everybody in a shit light

What are the roids that increase libido and QOL? Masteron and Proviron?

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Do you think it's safe to use your own name when ordering from an online source?

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>>40884094
test, maybe mast, proviron, mDHT

>>40884162
Thanks. Proviron looks like the one.

>>40883903
Dbol makes you feel great bro, schitz from other day< i usually workout early and take tram+xanax to keeop my head feeling good

Too many guys on fraud are skinny faggots with two dimensional abs

>>40883834
How tall you?
Ever try igf1?

>>40884150
Somebody may or may not do that

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>>40884150
no you have to chose a lowkey one like MUHAMMAD ABDULLAH KHALIL HUSSAIN AR-RAHAYYAL

If you're sending something to your house the mailman knows exactly who usually gets mail there and unusual names will send up a red flag.

>>40884187
Nees to be 50mg ed though and its costly shit

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>>40884210
its $4.40/g I usually run at least 100mg/day

>>40884194
kay

>>40884209

That's what I was thinking.

Also, in case that shit gets discovered, what would happened? How would I handle it? How does the whole controlled carrier shit works? Thanks bros. I think I'm finally gonna make it.

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>>40884210
>>40884220
My libido is kinda fucked, trying to figure out how to boost it.

Same problem as this guy: >>40882326

>>40884243
Just do it you fucking pussy. Everyone else does. If you get caught that's the price you pay.

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>>40884243
>shit gets discovered
they send you a letter asking you if you want to come claim it, which you ignore and they throw it away.

>>40884250
>Same problem
probably because you don't actually like them or they just suck in general. also, fuck condoms unless she's some dirty bar chick which you shouldn't be fucking anyways. PURE QTS ONLY

>>40884262

I am bro. Just trying to cover my bases and know what to expect.

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>>40884287
My #1 chick is on accutane so she absolutely HAS to use BC AND condoms or we'll have a fucking water on the brain baby.

>>40884288
Expect to deny deny deny. Unless you have to sign for it. But from my experience none of my sources have ever.

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>>40884308
>BC AND condoms
Why both, redundancy?

I'd run with the BC and just pick up some plan B just in case something went weird.

>>40884332
it doesn't matter if you sign for it

>>40884346
>>40884288

Yeah definitely not signing for anything. And I'm sure the source wont be stupid enough to actually request signature either.

>>40884346
If you sign for it, you provide legal consent that whatever in that package is yours.

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>>40884346
It's the policy with Accutane in women. Like she has to swear an oath that's what she's doing every month in order to get the script.

You should see the package, let me see if I can find a pic.

>>40881901
Guys, if I'm on 500mg/week of test e and wanna go on vacation for 9 days (cant take roids) what would you recommend I inject beforehand to not fuck my shit up? Can also do other esters and shit

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>>40884355
Just an FYI you have to sign for nearly every international delivery

>>40884377
Oh, so I could send you a nice courtesy package with 1kg of coke and if you signed and accepted it like most normal humans you'd be guilty of a felony? They would still be required to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

>>40884395
I know it's all that iPledge shit but still it doesn't mean you cant skip the condom if you're both willing to. What form of BC is she on?

>>40884415
Pin double before you leave and then back to your regular schedule afterwards. Up the ai after the 2x dose too.

>>40884434
after I come back I up the AI?

>>40884434
>Just an FYI you have to sign for nearly every international delivery
do you guys not buy from domestic sources?? It seems so much safer

>>40884434
She's on the pill, don't know what kind.

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>>40884464
I meant for ancillary purchases like AI, and raws.

>>40884455
before you leave, when you do the double dosed shot.

>>40884479
eh 99+% is good enough for me personally

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>>40884497
Accutane makes the pill not work as well sempai.

>>40884250
Tried caber and mast?

>>40884415
Where you going?
In asai they have sus in chemists

>>40884530
I tried caber, it didn't do shit, but I'm not on any 19-Nors. Does it work on normal people?

I thought Proviron was better than Mast.

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>>40884508
It's only really a concern if she's taking BC which is just microdosed progesterone.

>>40884547
I wouldn't suggest fucking with caber unless you have a reason to.

>>40884543
going to Split, Croatia this summer

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bol
1-6
50mg

LGD 10 mg
12 weeks

weeks 1-5
Test e 750
weeks 6-20
300

weeks 1-2
eq 1500
Week 3-16
1g

gw 20 mg14 weeks

weeks 7-20
tren e 600

weeks 7-20
mast e 600

15-20
winstrol 50


CJC no Dac 3x100
Ghrp2 5x100
This look better boys?
Thinking most lean gain I cant get until last 5 or 4 weeks, I usually bulk at 15%

>>40884589
*tbol

>>40884568
Try and get some test dec it's got a long as half life 9 days wont worry you

How bad would it be to pin tren a eod?

>>40883423
you probably coulda just slept and ate proper food and made the same gains at half that without giving yourself sides

>>40884618
how would I go about fitting it into my normal cycle tho?

>>40884627
depending on dose it'll be le epic blood level rollercoaster. pin ED or get tren e if you mind such.

>>40884627
Honestly not so bad because you might get better sleep on alternating nights that way. Everybody is different.

>>40884627
Not as good as ed, why not ed?
I hated pinning at first but after being used to it ez life

>>40884633
>same gains
Yeah I also think you can replace 500mg of testosterone with sleep and food

hell why even bother roiding at all? just stay natty and make the same gains with food and sleep

>>40884673
Sus has 100Mgs in there I believe, straight test dec comes at 500mg per ml so you could cruise with it or just slap it on top of your course at the start

>>40884627
If you're like me and get acne defintely dont, you swill really break out hard

>>40884712
so inject 500mg test dec on top of 500mg test e before I leave? thx for answering muh questions btw

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My needles arrived while I was at the gym. My mom brought them in. How should I explain this 1.5 foot by 1 foot box if she asks?

>>40884834
sex toy for a friend's birthday

>>40884834
>just some shit i bought

Sup /fit/ I wanna do my first cycle to get thicc (I'm a dood). I have a good frame to get thicc mode and I'm starting 5/3/1

Which cycle do you recommend me?

>>40884834
urethra sounding paraphernalia

>>40883491
sorry but i dont know anything about orals brah.

also
>running oral only cycles
>for 4 weeks

lel

>>40884834
Are everyones parents just retarded or am i the only adult here?
Why do you need to explain the package to your mom? Why does she care?

12yo detected

>>40883732
juicy af pic senpai

>>40884761
Juicy cunts gotta stay together bra

>>40884892
Not oral only man it's a kickstart, think i've got it figured out see here

>>40884589

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Reddit is saying

200 Test e E3D
300 EQ E3D
.25 Adex eod

is not a high enough dosage. I didn't mention it was a cut though. They told me

to up the Test-E to 250mg E3D
to up the EQ to 500mg E3D
???unknown amount of Adex (help?)

I could conceivably purchase more matierals to support the higher dose. Thoughts?

>>40884834
I told my paren't I had liver cancer and needed to use steroids and hgh to recooperate, the brand name ens in pharmacuticles so they beleived me, now they let me keep them in the fridge lmao

>>40884892
>running oral only cycles
>for 4 weeks

Let's say you're running winstrol only. How many weeks should you actually run them for to get solid, close to natty gains?

I have hair ON my dick, near the gland.

how the fuck am I supposed to get rid of those? I'm not putting a razor to my dick

>>40884922
Eq shouldn't be run under 800 a week, test at 500-750 a week unless running a 19nor like tren
Take test to 300 week, eq to 800, tren at 450 and either mast or stana to finish with

>>40884926
Unlike you I'm only 18 so I'm still on their medical coverage so I can't lie about having literal cancer like a 30 year degenerate stay at home who uses steroids for masturbating to anime.

That's mean if u told them that

>>40884926
[X] Doubt

>>40884943
No weeks at all.

>>40884946
lazer bra, get your legs and crack done too, chicks love it and your veins will pop

>>40884943
>winstrol only
>close to natty gains
it's time to kill yourself

>>40882233
jump

>>40884948
It's too late to introduce new compounds also I'm not going to fuck with tren yet until I start making some good money.

Also I'm not buying more EQ because it's money down the drain compared to adding more test.

>>40884948
That's ridiculous.
500mg test, 400mg eq, 250mg tren week is sufficient with diet and cardio. That's a big cycle.

Your cycle is pro tier

>>40882233
Dont worry about being a homo- Embrace the faggotry, and watch most twinks react to genuine love and kindness with shock and guilt, then attempted suicide. Once he does so or attempts it at least, the shock and trauma will make you straight again.

>>40884957
>>40884979

Can you guys ever give some constructive criticism with your replies. kys is not gonna help anyone.

>>40885054
Telling you to do a 0 week oral only winstrol cycle IS my version of constructive criticism. Oral only cycles are a bad idea to begin with, and doing so with what is essentially a cosmetic contest prep drug that will rape your joints is even more so. I'm not being mean on purpose.

Although killing yourself MIGHT solve the problem altogether, down the line.

>>40881989
slin causes the gut

>>40885152
>essentially a cosmetic contest prep drug that will rape your joints is even more so

This is what would actually be more helpful.

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>>40881901
Could someone tell me approximately what the guy on the right would lift and what his bodyweight is (assuming hes 5'10)?

>>40885212
And unnecessary if people started doing some research or at the very least read the wiki. But be my guest.

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Rate my Chado

>>40885251

Most places I've read state that it's a decent first cycle for a beginner.

>>40885222
that guy has never lifted a day in his life

>>40884922
What are your stats currently? You probably don't need more than 250 test to maintain muscle mass.

>>40884948
>Eq shouldn't be run under 800 a week

Lel fuck off m8

Is stoya still around?

>>40885294
Fair enough. Well, just... don't.

>>40885367
my stats are not the best, since im only 18.

18 yo
6'1
250lbs
24% bf I think
405 squat
430 deadlift
255 flat bench press

from 240lbs to 250lbs I made nogainz because of poor programming

>>40885425
If you haven't used gear before then 250 test will be just fine for muscle sparing (you will likely lose some strength while cutting but that doesn't mean you're losing muscle mass). I wouldn't bother with EQ if you're planning to come off after since it take so long to build up and then to clear your system.

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how the fuck is it possible to grow gyno overnight.

i dont even have a lump or anything.
wtf is this bullshit.

>>40885829
it would be you seeing something that is not there

>>40884957
>>40884950
Im australian

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>>40885829
I don't see any gyno. pick up some pharma ralox and run it 60mg AM/PM

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>>40885903
WHERE ARE THE GIRLS LIKE THIS IN MY UNI GYM

>>40885829
Letro quick m80

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>>40885916
crossfit girls are either meme tier or oh sweet lord lemme eat that butthole tier.

I'd be happy with this one girl that I saw at my gym who had nice booty shorts on like her and had those ribbon bow tattoos on each hamstring right below her ass. Nice and distracting.

>>40885939
ralox, fuck letro for gyno reduction although obviously your e2 should be controlled anyways.

>>40883765

So much bullshit. Slow down, sure.

Or did you mean with "most" 50,00000001% of natty gains?

>went to finger girl's ass yesterday while she was riding me
>wet poop on my finger
fucking women are gross

>>40885990
are you croat?

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>>40886133
you make it sound like a bad thing

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>>40886162
>croat
Like Croatian? No.

>>40886133
Why the fuck would you do that? Just rub her clit if you can.

>>40886201
revolting but underrated

>>40886341
I was playing with her ass and I just went for it

I then wiped the finger poop on her ass cheeks while pretending I was playing with her ass, don't think she noticed

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Hi guys. Currently on day 2 of a 6 week anavar cycle. Have tamoxifen for PCT.

I noticed initial recommendations (some more stern than others) about running Test E or Test prop along with it, to maximise gains and prevent shutdown. I'm looking to cut and preserve lean mass, so gains aren't my priority, however the risk of shutdown is a concern.

Who has run a var only cycle successfully? And would anyone suggest biting the bullet and getting Test-E/prop/something else? I am only intending on a 6 week var course but could be swayed to an 8 week var + (recommendation) course if it'll help mitigate shutdown risk. Thanks in advance.

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>>40886419
>I then wiped the finger poop on her ass cheeks

Uh.

>>40886441
>var only

read the fucking shit man, oral only cycles are fucked up.

You WILL be shut down if you're taking any substance that will have an appreciable effect on your performance/appearance. So you might as well add test so you have a libido.

I mean if you are not sexually active, var will probably work but still...actually I'm kind of curious about that, what will happen?

>>40886476
That's fine and that's what I thought. Any recommendations for a short cycle length and dosage? 1-6 week 50mg ED anavar kickstart and 1-8 week 500mg Test-E?

>>40884188
Would be great, i feel shitty/paranoid lately about everything

>>40884200
6'

no i did; mast, test and winstrol. I have no intention to use GH, IGF1 or tren

>>40885829
it's not gyno it's puffy nipples at most. Don't fuck with letro that shit is satan's poison

>>40886579
No, if anything, the opposite, One does not simply do anything WITHOUT test.

GYNO = LUMP

I managed to reverse gyno with letro but it gave me permanent eye damage. Don't fuck with letro

balding and gyno are the worst kind of side effects. Both can be easily prevented

>>40886419
Wrong, you should have wiped it into her face, that's how they learn to take a shit before letting you into their asses.

>>40886609
if you had the money would you use hgh? if not, why?

to me that's the most masT compound there is, you wanna get huge as fuck. doesn't mean you gotta fuck with insulin though

>>40886733
How much does GH cost and how much do you need tho?

I have read that lower dose won't fuck with bone growth and shit. Might try low dose at some point

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>>40886865
3-5iu ED is pretty good and generics are $120/100iu

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>masT/moosey hair gains meme stack of PSO/SP/Biotin and Keto shampoo 1x/week
>200mg/week cruise
>front looks like it's thinning
>i can see my scalp through my hair in the front

GENES aren't a meme. I'm gonna switch to raw PSO instead of pills so it's cheaper to up the dose. Going to try my best to avoid this getting worse. Are scalp exercises a meme? I never bothered but now I need to look into it.

>>40884434
>Just an FYI you have to sign for nearly every international delivery
Phew - just received a "missed delivery" note from the USPS that requires my signature. Package from Turkey. Signed for it without issues but was holding off on opening it for a few days out of caution.

If it's a routine thing I won't worry as much.

>>40882531
>lgd-4033 10 mg day in morning
>>40884589
>LGD 10 mg

I thought LGD had diminishing returns after 5mg ED. Is 10mg really worth it?

>>40886609
Agree on lestro

>masT claiming 6'

Oh CMON now

>>40886897
scalp exercises are most definitely not a meme but you need to do them pretty religiously. also consider applying the meme oil haircare stack (don't have it ready, lurk the archive) if you're worried, thickens it somewhat and helps with new vellus hairlets

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is
>roiding for girls
a meme or will it work?

>>40886894
fuck that's expensive indeed.

>>40886897
You know how long it takes to see the effects? Keto is king of hair loss remedies. You have to use it for months to see the full effects. I have even less hair loss than before roids now

I am so happy i have no worries anymore with my hair. That shit was the worst thing ever

>>40886949
confidence + face + social skills

some roids = confidence. But if you're ugly and are autistic sorry no go

High masteron made me too dominant and some girls were imitated by my dominance and size. That's what a colleague said at my work, kek

GIRLS WHO NEED THEM ANYWAY

if they had no boobs and pussy we wouldn't even bother

>>40886987
>>40886897
> worrying about hair
Not gonna make it.

The side effects from hair drugs like finasteride and the cost of "natural remedies" is money down the toilet. You wanna be a man? Or you wanna be a boy? You're not gonna lose that much hair anyways. If you oddly do, just wear a banda, a cap, buzzcut, a hat, or be bald. Boohoo. At least your woman knows your dick is bigger than the poolboy's.

>>40887035
Why did they imitate you masT?

>>40887050
Shut up faggot, not everyone got the right skull for being bald.

LOSING HAIR AND BEING BALD IS THE WORST KIND OF FEELING known to mankind. There are enough remedies to fix it, why would you feel shttiy about yourself if you can also look good with hair

>>40887056
because i rather suck on a big black cock than a hairy smell pussy

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>>40887078
I shaved my head bald when I was 16, masT, it was fine. The girls didn't like it (aside from a few nymphs) but all the guys were scared and thought I was a neo nazi.

>>40887078
its intimidate, masT, not imitate...

>>40887125
Anybody who unironically suggests a bandana should be whipped publicly.

being nervous as fuck is not a meme huh

>>40887125
So? Everyone should be bald now? I CHOPPED OF MY DICK ALSO, GIRLS DONT LIKE IT, WHAT NOW

Why care what girls want? It's important to love yourself. That's the most important thing in life; that you look at yourself in the mirror and think;fuck is it really me? can't it be. yes i did it. Only you have to get pleasure from it.

That can't be achieved with balding, you will worry about it too much. Let nobody stop you from dreaming

i am still learning, give me a break i am still comprehending.

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>>40887166
yeah huh huh just wear a cool sweater and glasses so everybody knows you can take 700cubic centimeters of dick up your ass at once

>>40887184
Try to project less, Poindexter. We're all friends here.

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TNT400 vs individual doses of test and tren in separate places. I hear PIP is bad with the TNT.

>gonna have to find caber
Unless someone can explain to me a reasonable alternative to tren and prolactin

>>40887170
So masT what's your average cycle?

>>40887398
blends will always have worse pip, especially at such a high concentration

get your caber from Indian pharmacies

>>40887449
thats kinda racist, bro, you saying injuns got gyno?

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>>40886944
Thank you. I saw some stuff about peppermint, rosemary, lavender oils. Will look into that further. Thought it was for beard but I will try on hairline.

Point me in the right direction for scalp exercises?

http://www.livestrong.com/article/227743-scalp-exercises-to-reduce-hair-loss/

This link basically talks about different ways to knock/massage your scalp, sometimes in the presence of vit E and rosemary oil. Is this the way to go?

>>40886987
>You have to use it for months to see the full effects.
Thanks masT for the encouragement. I am on it for 8 weeks now - more patience is required. Hard to be patient because I wanted to add some proviron soon but I will wait until I am confident the hairline is recovering.

Did you discontinue mast/DHT when using the stack/keto?

I am so glad you have no worries with your hair. I will follow your advice and get to the same peace of mind.

>>40887050
No way am I going to do DHT inhibition with fina/dua. I am okay with hair loss but not if there's a way to avoid it. What you are saying is like "oh you are going to die one day anyways, so don't avoid this train coming at you right now."

What's your guys opinion on ghrp-6 I'm thinking about taking it as part of my pct along with nolvadex of course what doses do you guys think would be a good start

What the biggest cycle youve ever done?

Anyone here ever fucked a hooker whilst on tren?
>>40887604
I'd get mk-677 or ghrp-2

>>40887496
kek nah it's meant for hair and some anons also use it for beard because why the fuck not. common recipe is castor and unrefined PSO as carrier (if you want add almond oil), with 5% peppermint and 3% each rosemary lavender and if you want thyme.

scalp exercises
http://www.hairloss-reversible.com/my-approach-2/ for the science and literally google or youtube for how to do them if you can't figure it out.

What would be a good liver support if im running 50mg of anavar? I got some tudca left over from when I ran drol but i feel like it would be over kill.

>>40887838
NAC

>>40887852
2500 mg ed?

>>40887838
>liver support
>anavar
completely pointless

>>40887604
CJC no dac 3x100
GHRP2 is far better, use at 5x100

>>40887920
I was just checking to be sure, im going to throw some sdrol in near the end so I want my liver to already be in good condition

>>40888000
at 50mg its hardly gonna have any effect on your liver.

above 100mg or extreme long cycles maybe.

>>40887630
Your mom on a tandem bike

>>40887687
Thanks hair-magic-anon. I think I've seen your posts (the castor/PSO carrier gives you away :D). Will definitely be ordering all this shit within a week.

Do you also do the needling or is that just Moosey?

I think the guy's approach of visualizing the anatomy and understanding what's underneath is really cool. Appreciate all your help - looking forward to scalp pumps!

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What can I take to counteract decreased collagen synthesis from test without adding sides?

>>40882286
Wish I could achieve Young Arnold natty

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>>40888384
> thinking you need roids to look like young Arnold

>>40888379
ostarine

>>40888410
To be fair, I'm relatively new to seriously working out and getting bulked.

I used to just run, and was okay with being skelly. I want young Arnold or bearmode now.

>>40881901
What the fuck is going on in OP's pic? Is this an actual fucking bodybuilding competition? Who let that guy on the right onstage?

>>40888379
minoxidil

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>>40888410
>thinking you don't

>>40888440
he was the 3rd best looking natty in the entire country

have some respect for natty lifters, they work hard to get their gains

>>40888417
I don't think that's suited for permanent use. It also lacks studies.

>>40888464
Kek. Only makes it worse.

>>40888374
is this a fucking joke? i was the one shilling scalp exercises and saying over and over and over again that this shit is god tier for hair.

Im the hair-magic-manlet here, not this faggot copy pasting the exact same link i did.

>>40888488
there's nothing you can add for permanent use. it's also completely unnecessary to have something permanent to counteract lowered collagen synthesis

low dose deca maybe

guys, it takes me 5 minutes to draw .5cc of test 400 with a 27 gauge, what am i doing wrong?

>>40888540
you're using a 27 gauge to draw

>>40884946
need more responses

>>40888540
>27 gauge

bruh why you using insulin pins for drawing

>>40888522
Fuck. I want to cruise for life but I don't want to fuck up my collagen.

>>40888587
>>40888550
I use 1/2 needles for my delts and since its only one compound i dont see the need for switching tips

>>40888627
well get used to drawing for 5 minutes

>>40886654
>balding
>easily prevented

u wot m8

>>40888608
I'll let you know how 100/100/200 test/EQ/deca works out then.

>>40888722
Er, test/deca/EQ

Would you rather run EQ or Deca on top of test for a second cycle? Deca supposedly adds more mass, but my job depends on my dick working. What's your experience with EQ and Deca?

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What's your skincare routine? pic related

I'm on 500mg test e /week and thats it. Currently using benzoyl peroxide and Retina-a gel.

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>>40888887

What doses do I use for PSO, SP??

Anyone ever use finasteride?

>>40888887
nothing

t. silky smooth clear skin

>>40888887
I drink a lot of water, and change my pillow case often.

>>40888722
>100 test
Isn't that a bit low, even for cruising?

>>40888887
i heard hyaluron oil/acid/whatever works really p good on the skins.
and coconut oil

But apart from that
>sleep
seriously, i look better, healthier, i smile more, i have more energy, im more happy, more motivated to do shit

Everytime i switch from getting too little sleep to getting a ton of sleep, i just realize how crucial this shit is. Just about everything, my body and my mood is better if i sleep enough, every single day that is.

>>40881944
Im reporting you to the cops

>>40883732
Im about to report this to the police

>>40888924
I aromatize a lot so I want to minimize potential estrogen issues.

>>40888374
I'm not OG oil-stack anon, I just really liked his approach lmao, but yeah, glad to help. I don't needle but I plan to eventually once I decide if to stamp or roll.

>>40888515
up your AI moosey, I was just helping him out, no claims of your greatness or whatever. jesus you're easily upset lately

>>40889144
daily reminder nothing of what i say is meant srs bruh.

i just like to talk like a cunt on 4chan, it makes typing out these autistic words a bit more fun.

masT prolly has the same syndrome. Insulting people for no reason

>easily upset
say that to my face and see what happens, twink boy

>>40888847
>my job depends on my dick working
pray tell what you do for a living, genuinely interested

also, use EQ

>>40889172
kek fair enough, got me there, was genuinely worried for some reason (maybe because you ranted about your pics recently when all was fine).

also no, masT is legitimately like this I think. not saying that's a bad thing at all.

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daily reminder getting a thick neck is the key to becoming chad.

its night and day difference

>>40889194
its seriously hard for me to ever get mad at someone over the internet.

Nah i dont think hes like that irl.

anyone tried s4/sr9009 to help polish a winnie Clyde?

>>40888983
y

>>40881944
Fixed

tbol
1-6
50mg

LGD 10 mg
12 weeks

weeks 1-6
Test e 750
weeks 6-22
300

weeks 1-18
eq 1000

gw 20 mg14 weeks

weeks 7-22
tren e 500

weeks 9-22
mast e 600


Week 17-22
Winnie 50 ed


CJC no Dac 3x100
Ghrp2 5x100

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>>40888887
I fell for the skincare meme.

Got my cerave face wash for the shower, Paula's choice BHA for AM/PM before gels and shit. Then I do hyaluronic acid+b5 , wait 15min do niacinamide and zinc, wait awhile and do squalane/vitamin c 23%/some fancy French water moisturizer.

Gotta keep your skin looking good. Oh and spot treat with benzoyl peroxide if needed.

I asked work QT what she did for hers and she said just moisturize but she's literally got flawless skin with no makeup on. I'm jelly as fuck.

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Will a doctor give me TRT

>>40889673
If you go to a clinic they give it to anyone that's remotely low

>>40889673
hahahahaha no

>>40889701
FUCK YOU IM LOW

>>40889700
Yeah for a "consultation fee" of $500

>>40889276
>daily reminder getting a thick neck is the key to becoming chad.
What's your neck exercise routine.

>>40889712
I was too. got denied pinnable trt at <300ng and given testogel so I shut up.

>>40887978
5 times a day?

>>40885152
Why is it a bad idea?

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>>40889737
Thats not bad stock up and end up like pic related

>>40890169
>stock up
too late, already self-medicated.by pinning :( did meme some lads at my gym into massive gelgainz though, for a small token of appreciation (read: 200% profit for yours truly)

>>40883491
LGD not LDG fucken learn it jfc.

Anyway, you'll lose the water of dbol once you stop it, bloat isnt permanent unless youre being a fatty. Take asin with dbol. Adrol, asin doesnt stop the potential bloatiness and nipple sensitivity iirc. Sdrol is dry but it can be harsh and make you lethargic, even with tudca iirc, take some tudca if you can afford it.

Tbol is mild.

LGD is good and will work as an 'amplifier' to some steroids.

If youre going oral only I would recommend LGD only, as its not worth getting shut down for only 4 weeks.

Unless you stop the orals after 4 weeks but continue the LGD for an additional 4 weeks or more (its not liver toxic).

LGD is suppressive but it wont keep you totally shut down, your body should still start recovery (up to a point, definitely not near 100%) while on it after being shut down. Total recovery after stopping that after LGD will be much quicker then it is with dropping orals and PCT'ing, as you'll have some reasonable level of FSH and LH to start from by that point.

However, the issue is feeling like absolute shit, which you tend to do on oral steroid only cycles (I dont know if LGD can compensate that or not, but to be on the safe said assume no).

Add some basic level of test in (even 125mg week is enough to stop you feeling absolute trash).

Apparently dbol only you can still feel okay and not like death, so dbol + some moderate asin + LGD might be okay.

YMMV.

LGD amplifies test really well btw, so that would be choice of stack with LGD.

Tfw was going to do Test + adrol + LGD but I tried to import too much raw adrol powder and customs said I can have the rest of the raws but discard the adrol because its too much.

So now its Test + dbol + LGD upcoming in a few weeks.

>>40883732
Height?

>>40882974

Your adex is not enough most likely. What is your test dose? All you listed was the mg/ml, not how many ml you're running. I'd definitely up the AI.

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Check my fucking doggo everyone

What training split do you guys use? PPL? Arnold? Single part? Upper/lower?

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>>40891092
Mines better.

>>40891092
>>40891559
mirin doggos, been too long since my last one kicked the bucket, need to pick up a new pup soon. great for cardio gains too, given big enough size for long runs (kahuna mini dachs need not apply)

>>40891092
wouldpet/10

I'm on my first cycle ever. It's Test E 300 mg/week. I just dosed my second time on week 3 yesterday. I don't notice any gains yet or that much strength improvement. Am I being impatient? My source is verified so I don't think I've got bunk gear.

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>>40891092
>>40891559
ya but look at this cute duck

>>40891676
it's an incredibly low amount and you're only on week 3

did you not do any research before hopping on you ape?

>>40891774
Shit I don't know how I did it, but I typed 300 mg/wk when I meant to type double that. I'm on 600 mg/week.

I know 300 mg would be in the high range for a cruise dose, so yeah that is very low.

>>40891559
Looks like a good boy

>>40891591
>>40891654
Thanks fellas. She's a doglet which makes walks a pain and bad social skills but everyone's always mirin her.

>>40891186
PPL master race

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>>40891687
cuter duck

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>>40891846
Uh oh we are bringing in animation now?

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>>40891862
it seems we are

>>40891812
*girl

Went and chilled on the beach with a thicc hunnie today. She's cool.

Meanwhile the shit talking girl from the PNW that moved out here was working all day yet still found time to snap me every hour.

How is this shit hard? So far my only challenge is not fucking then immediately.

>>40891894
All dogs are boys and all cats are girls

Hardest thing is making time for yourself. Don't let your self esteem get tangled up in validation my friend.
Not saying you are, just speaking on problems I've had in the past.

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>>40891878

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HOLY I LOVE CARDIO NOW. wew lads. Did like an hour on the treadmill, they put TV's on them fuckers now. Feels great and the lb's have been shedding off.

Who else /goodfeels/ here?

>>40891940
wtf i love otters now

>>40891939
Yeah that's an issue I had with my ex. Now I'm spending 90% of my time studying, coaching or lifting.

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>>40891988

Low funds to spend here. Could I make any significant gains on 15 mg Dbol a day?

I don't have a source either. Live in a small town, only old ppl at gym

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Why are animals so damn stupid?

>>40891092
>>40891559
Miring super hard.

>>40891894
>So far my only challenge is not fucking then immediately.
Scheduling is a bitch too, depending on how many you're trying to juggle.

>>40892114
Oh yeah juggling 3 ATM but I like the two I mentioned more.

>>40892155
2-3 is pretty good. More, and there's only so many "maybe next weeks" you can give a girl before they find another dick to ride.

>>40892173
That's super true. I feel I have an edge in that regard.

All of these ladies have called me beautiful or exquisite; they're super impressed by me being a jacked weeb porn star.

Hard to find a dude like that, especially when I tell them "nah I don't want to fuck you yet. I've got shit to do". They work hard for it.

>>40892018
If you have low funds you shouldn't even consider roids. Wait until you have dat cash money.

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Goodnight!

>>40892018
You're better off waiting till you've got the dosh.
15mg of dbol is likely to shut you down and not give any real gains.

>>40892184
Definitely gets you some leeway. Having the same fetishes gives you a lot of room too.

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>>40883434
Standard issue. Footy shorts. Maybe a singlet if its chilly.

Wew, finally gave up my natty card and injected some shit in my ass

When do i become a god

>>40882286
>that small dick
5' tops

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>>40881901
>not using anti-hairfall when pinning
Its like, you want to be bald or something

How long after my first injection of test should I start feeling the psychological differences, I know it takes a while to kick in for gains, but I'm guessing you get the other effects sooner

>>40892998
>judging flacid dick

you would think i have a micropenis if you saw it flacid but it is 7 inches when hard