Whole food plant based diet thread

Bump. Surly there are some redpilled /fit/izen.

>>40870773
Veganism isnt redpilled it is the most bluepilled thing you can do to ruin your gains.check em

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>>40871272
>muh meat muh gains
Keep believing the meat and dairy industry sponsored myths anon.

Gas vegans

>>40871648
>elite genetics
>lifting since birth
>iq over 160
>world class coaching
>roids

Nice example of a vegan lifter

>>40871882
So we can agree that being vegan makes no difference to gains. If you roid your gonna look like a roider, if your natty your gonna look natty, vegan or not.

>>40871882
>>elite genetics
Unrelated to animal product consumption
>>lifting since birth
Unrelated to animal product consumption
>>iq over 160
Unrelated to animal product consumption
>>world class coaching
Unrelated to animal product consumption
>>roids
Unrelated to animal product consumption

It's like 9 outta 10 guys on this forum don't know the diff between vegan and vegetarian, or pescetarian, even

>>40875547
What

>>40870680

based vegan anon

Been vegan for about a month. How do I stop being bloated and fasting all day?

>>40878114
Not fasting meant to say farting

im with you bro, getting those sweet potato gains, also beetroot and plenty of other shit, fuck animal food

>>40878114
Soak your beans overnight and wash them before you toss them in the slow cooker

Vegans are deficit in b12:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/fullarticle/784788
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987

High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329

Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/486478
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700

Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278

Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans:

http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.full

Vegans are deficient in omega threes:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085

Vegans are deficit in carnitine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928

>>40879859
This retarded pasta again?

Vegans are deficient in taurine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491

Vegans are deficient in iodine:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354

Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950

Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources:

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthProfessional/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606

Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full


Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476

Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079

Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf

"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369

Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939/

"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628/

These next five are case studies:

Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673

Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642

Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244

Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463

"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883

>>40879859
>>40879865
>>40879872

>I posted it again XD

A guy (a meat eater at that) took the time to respond to this bullshit at length months ago when it first popped up.

https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/40219821/#40223110

>>40879895
Saved

t b h im just going to continue eating a balanced diet

thanks for the input tho babe

>>40875547
Its how much of a gay cunt you are

>>40881594
Get your fucking faggot mature perspective out of here

>>40881618
>Eating ribcages is mature

Lol

>tfw dairy based diet
Feels good man

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We're talking whole food plant based diet here. That means no oilcuck, sugarcuck, processed-food-cuck and certainly no animal-product-cuck.

Most of the studies that guy posts are on vegetarians and are therefore completely irrelevant.

http://dresselstyn.com/JFP_06307_Article1.pdf

>>40881760
Enjoy your estrogen and fat emulsion, cuck

>>40874060
>>40873102
Meatlets on suicide watch!

>>40870680
I was a vegetarian for the first 16 years of my life and became morbidly obese

Started eating meat and lost weight with ease

Sage

>>40883184
Come on, not even the most devoted retard won't go and claim meat is better than veggies for losing weight

>>40883452
Actually an overabundance of carbs and a lack of protein could cause you to become overweight

and yes, the addition of lean meats, a good source of protein, can help this

you can work around it, but this is the shit that happens if you jump into veganism with no idea of what you are doing

>>40883452
Lol

Have you just completely missed the whole keto movement?

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>>40883521
A vegan diet is not inherently healthy. Oreos and beer is vegan. What is healthy is a whole food diet. No population on earth eating majority starchy carbs had an obesity problem.
Unrefined carbs are filled with fibre and water, which make them extremely filling. They don't make you fat.

>>40870680
i do all this life is good. Never been as fit, or ripped. Lean all year, no effort. Way healthier than ever before. Also going vegan is something im very happy about.

>>40870680

Post good recipes or fuck off.

>>40883584
shouldnt avoid nuts, seeds or avocado. its prett good :DD

>>40883643
Yeah that is just for fatties looking to lose weight as fast as possible. Avoiding all high cal foods is easier for them but not necessary for anyone else.

>>40883521
>an overabundance of carbs and a lack of protein could cause you to become overweight

Overabundance of calories* causes weight gain

>and yes, the addition of lean meats, a good source of protein, can help this

There are healthier sources of lean protein.

>you can work around it, but this is the shit that happens if you jump into veganism with no idea of what you are doing

That one is correct, yes.

>>40883571
It honestly slipped my mind.

To all ketofags: eat whatever you want but please don't "advertise" your diet.

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>>40883626
https://www.drmcdougall.com/health/education/recipes/
There is tonnes more online. Just google.

>>40883711
>To all veganfags: eat whatever you want but please don't "advertise" your diet.

>>40883711
>To all ketofags: eat whatever you want but please don't "advertise" your diet.

Why not? It works very well. The fat drops off and the bad cholesterol and shit comes down.

>>40883744
Yeah it works for weight-loss but that doesn't mean its healthy long term. Plant based also leads to weight loss. Even popular paleo writer acknowledges this (i used to be a paleotard)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFfK27B_qZY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es4PFR5GZTY

>>40883836
What makes you think keto's not healthy in the long term?

>>40883848
Well there is not many studies long term on keto I don't think. Meanwhile there is a huge amount of evidence on the benefits of plant based. Its your choice of course bro. Check this video if would like more info.

https://youtu.be/7rNY7xKyGCQ

>>40870680
ignore vegan threads
there is no argueing with a vegan
theyre all pale low test skinnyfat weak retards, regardless of how healthy they think they are

>>40883730
False analogy, vegan diets are healthy
>>40883744
Calorie restriction is what works, not bacon instead of beans

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>>40884027
I used to laugh at vegans just like you once anon. Maybe one day you will take the redpill too.

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>>40884153

>>40884053
>Calorie restriction is what works, not bacon instead of beans

No, you're wrong. It's not that simple, despite what the sticky says.

>>40884314
>It's not that simple, despite what the sticky says.
Not that dude, but it really is that simple. If you want to keto to curb your fatass sugar cravings, that's fine. But it's not a miracle brah

>>40884314
>Not that simple

True. Eating low fat and high carb forces your body to do de novo lipogenesis. I don't want to tire you out though because all the saturated fat has probably gotten to your brain and you can't think much.
BTW, ketosis is a disease. You are literally sick.

>>40884314
>No, you're wrong. It's not that simple, despite what the sticky says.
OK please disprove calories in, calories out then. Word of advice though, instead of posting it on 4chan you should publish it in a scientific journal as you have just disproved the second law of thermodynamics lmao

>>40883982
are there studies about diet that has split like 95% and 5% animal based diet, or anything like that. I'm very sceptical about avoiding all animal based food

>>40870680
Dr.McDougall is based as fuck

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>>40884639
Well not sure about studies but the traditional Okinawan diet and Tarahumaran diet contained small amounts of animal foods. I doubt 5% will make much difference either way.

>>40884601
The bigger issue is controlling satiety. If you eat foods that make you feel full you will eat less calories. That's how whole food plant based works. The food is high in water and fibre, meaning it has a low caloric volume and therefore you eat less calories.

https://youtu.be/0CdwWliv7Hg

>>40870680
>implying i want to live a long life
i'll stick to my roids and fast food.