Creatine and Preworkouts?

If the preworkout has
>caffeine
>DMAA/DMHA
>creatine
It's worth it.

If it doesn't have at least two of the above, just do black coffee.
If you're predispositioned to balding, skip the creatine.

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>>40857461

False chemicals input into body.
Money down the drain.
Simply visualize the workout.
Be motivated from within.
Chemicals and bad things unneeded.

>>40857484
>DMAA
Isn't that banned?

>>40857533
No. Plenty of preworkouts have it.

preworkout should consist of sudafed and phenibut(you'll have to make it yourself, nobody sells it). It feels like a mild roll

Overpriced caffeine. Might as well Sip.

>>40857699
jesus christ monster are expensive as fuck, gtfo. get back to me when i can make soda stream monsters.

>>40857699
C4 is $25-$30 for 30 servings of ~150mg caffeine + extra shit (creatine/beta alanine/etc)
Sip shit is $2-$4 for one can. Even at $2 a can it'd be $60 for as many servings.

Supplements are a fucking scam

>>40857794
>caffeine, creatine, and other stims are a scam
OK

At what point should one start taking pre-workouts? I'm curious about something like OP's pic but I don't think I'm at an advanced enough stage in lifting for it.

>>40857807
paying 60 bucks for a tub yeah my man that's a scam

>>40857825
For $60 you can literally get 3 tubs of C4 on A1supps right now you dumb cunt.

>>40857834
or you can make a cup of coffee for less than a dollar you dumb cunt :^)

>>40857825
Then don't buy overpriced name brand shit
The 20$ Walmart stuff is just as good

>>40857847
>60mg-100mg is comparable to creatine and 150mg+ of caffeine
lmao are you stupid?

Best bang for your buck is caffeine pills anyway. Like $10 for 100 pills at 200mg

>>40857865
>My negligible supplements have more effect than a cup of coffee

Get memed little man

>>40857883
Literal retard spotted. You've probably never tried DMAA/DMHA which is why you're spouting this retarded garbage. A cup of coffee can't even compare. Regardless, again, caffeine pills are the best bang for your buck. Even better than coffee.

>>40857893
Why are you so angry? The thought of all the wasted money on buying supplements and falling for marketing scams?

>>40857910
Because a fucking retard is trying to talk about something hes uneducated in. How are caffeine pills a marketing scam? They're more caffeine and cheaper than coffee.