/fat/ - Weight Loss General

Why are you giving bad advice for fat loss in the OP?

>it's another weekend edition where everybody discusses how much they cheated
does anyone else actually just save up 800cals for the day and have a couple beers and then go home without stuffing their face? Weak willed fucks

>>40843228
>replying to yourself

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>>40843227

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post your goal physique /fat/

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Confess your cheat meals.

Do females really lose weight slower than males? I'm not even losing a pound a week. I've lost 40 pounds in the past stretched over the course of 8 months. Maybe I'm overthinking it
5'6
198
TDEE is 2015 and I'm averaging 1400 calories a day. Been lifting 3 days a week and cardio 2 days

>>40843334
females burn les calories dumbass

>>40843311
Chorizo and eggs w/ rice, beans, carrots, and flour tortillas from a taco shop.

Only eat one large sub-TDEE meal and a couple pieces of fruit on cheat days.

9 months ago I had a 6 pack. I also broke up with my girlfriend and started being a sad cunt, not working out just eating to try to maintain muscle mass. Now I'm sitting around 30% bf and my old clothes don't even fit anymore. My 2-4dnp arrives in about a week so I'll probably just do a suicide cut with mass stimulants and psmf. I just want to be able to go to the beach shirtless without feeling ashamed. It's the only thing I've been looking forward to in a while.

>>40843367
Thanks, baka

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>Hate myself for being a fat slob
>Comfort eat the pain away
>No motivation to change, because I am an unloved fat waste of space so why bother
Feels bad man.

I miss sweets so fucking bad.

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>>40843438
Hating myself was my primary motivation for starting. Gets really easy a month in.

>>40843442
pic related

>>40843465
The thing is I can never stop once I start eating sweets. I'd finish that whole thing

>>40843476
It's 240 calories a pint

that's less than an average protein bar and with more protein

also stop being a child

>>40843465
>Hating myself was my primary motivation for starting. Gets really easy a month in.
I've hated myself for over 10 years, if it was motivation it would have already helped.

>>40843511
I spent around the same amount of time hating myself, always thinking I would just spend a couple months some time in the future to get healthier and just be done with it and show everyone that I wasn't always going to be that fatass. But I never did.

Then one day I was thinking about it and I realized that every single day I waited would be another day I had to make up for and the harder it would become, so I just started that day.

You don't need to be motivated, you just need to do it. And if you choose not to then you are choosing to be a fat slob.

>>40843465
I might try one of these out. What's the best flavor? Or do these just taste like a protein bar in ice cream format?

>>40843660
They taste like ice cream, my favorite so far is the salted caramel.

Gotta eat them slowly and while they are a bit melted. The texture while frozen solid is flaky.

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>>40843306

>>40843756
>cosplaying
fucking disgusting

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>>40843306
>replying anything but this

we did it, reddit
6.2lb from not being obese for the first time since high school

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i messed up my back. from doing cardio, of all things.

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how accurate is the tdee calculator in the op? i strictly monitored my calories this week, stayed 1000 calories under maintenance, and didn't lose any weight.

>>40844083
probably water weight. You can vary by like 5 pounds day to day. So you can be consistently losing weight for 3 weeks and just not see anything on the scale

Just gotta stick to it

>>40844083
What stats are you and how many calories are you eating? Be precise if you actually want help.

>>40844126
>5'7"
>207 lbs
>29 y/o
>recommended tdee based on light exercise, 2561 calories/day
>i ate 1500 calories a day every day this week

>>40844153
Always go off of sedentary, and don't calculate exercise into your calories. Regardless it's probably still just water weight/shit.

>>40844083
>how accurate is the tdee calculator in the op

Very inaccurate as all of them are. You can't possibly accurately estimate a person's energy expenditure from just their body measurements and a vague description of activity level. The variance between individuals is very large due to different daily activities whose effects on energy use are very hard to predict.

Your real TDEE is the amount of calories you ate when you observed your weight being maintained.

But do also consider that you need to be accurate in your weight measurements. You can't draw the conclusion that you haven't lost weight from two weighings a week apart because weight varies randomly. You should measure daily right after waking up and draw your conclusions by comparing weekly averages only.

First for "A vegan diet was associated with significantly greater weight loss than the NCEP diet at 1 and 2 years." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17890496

>Overall, individuals assigned to the vegetarian diet groups lost significantly more weight than those assigned to the non-vegetarian diet groups
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26138004

>Meat consumption is associated with obesity and central obesity among US adults
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2697260/

>vegans had lower total- and LDL-cholesterol concentrations than did meat eaters
>Mortality from ischemic heart disease was also positively associated with estimated intakes of total animal fat, saturated animal fat, and dietary cholesterol.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10479226

>Mortality from ischemic heart disease (IHD) was significantly lower in the vegetarians than in the nonvegetarians; the difference was especially marked among the men.
>serum cholesterol and body mass index were lower in the vegetarians than in the nonvegetarians
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3414590

>>40844259
Fuck off with your vegan shit. So that nobody is fooled by this:

The reason vegans lose more weight, is because animal products are more calorie-dense -> people on diet eat too much of them easier. It's harder to overeat your diet as a vegan.

Only thing that matters is calories in/out.

>>40844259
>it's harder for vegans to eat cheat meals therefore vegan diets are inherently better
you can stop posting this now

I haven't lost a single kilo in 3 weeks. It's like I'm stuck at 112kg permanently. I run 4km every day, count calories and restrict myself to about 1800. What should I do? When will I start losing again?

>>40844317
sounds like you aren't counting properly
or
>>40844107

>>40844259
You realize you how flawed these studies are? You can compare a super unhealthy vegan diet (nothing but oreos, cake, sugar, etc.) and compare it to a very healthy normal diet (oats, lots of veggies, lean cut meats, etc.) and say "wow vegans are super unhealthy compared to meat eaters"

Vegans are usually healthier than non vegans because they are usually more health conscience than their average meat eater counter parts. You are on a fitness board though, most people here (ironic in /fat) aren't eating KFC every day.

Think the country with the highest number of centenarians (100+ years old) is japan and their diet is definitely not vegan.

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>>40843306

>>40843219
>Why does nobody make new threads until 400 posts edition

At 3 am last night it was at 330. Nobody is going make a new thread at 3 am

>>40843311
Wine

>>40844317
Cut at 1500, run longer, and see if anything changes. You're probably not using a food scale to weigh food, are you

Yo I am legit craving fries so fuckin' bad. I don't even know why. Gonna be a few hours until I can eat something too. Kill me.

There's no chance I'mma eat fries but I can feel my brain trying to come up with reasons for it. "Bruh you're not actually fat you're just trying to get to a proper flat stomach so it's not even bad if you delay your progress by a day so why not" Fuck you brain. The squishy mental jew won't get me.

>>40844317
You're probably eating more than 1800 and you're forgetting to add in oils and stuff.

Try lowering what you think your TDEE is by 200. If you're eating the same amount and nothing ever changes you're eating at maintenance. Have you been lowering it as you lose weight?

Would also suggest IF to get the calories lower. Or even go for a day or two of water fasting for fun.

>>40844362
gross legs

>>40844396
You can do it anon!

>>40844290
>Only thing that matters is calories in/out.

>Switching to a normal diet after being on low-carb, rats gained more weight with the same amount of calorie intake compared to controls. Low-carb diets causes weight cycling (yo-yo dieting). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19039316

>>40844345
You seem to not understand how these studies are performed on any level. I urge you to read the Methods section of one of them. Some of the studies compared specifically health conscious populations. Take a look at this one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3414590

Japan's diet is much closer to vegan than ours. They consume vastly more amounts of plant-based foods than we do, and far, far less meat, dairy, and eggs (or at least they did before our diet has begun invading them).

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That feel when Icecream and unlimited access to a computer during adolescence was the cause of my obesity. Only at early 30s do I realize the benefit of being fit.

>>40843311
none, u punk bitch

>tfw 25.1 BMI
>still considered overweight

fuck fuck fuck

>>40843465
I think I am going to buy one of those as well. I need to have something healthy that's sweet so I don't end up eating something that sweet but fattenining

>>40843438
i was like this, then i woke up one morning and decided to stop being like this, then, most importantly, i made a plan

make a fucking plan nigger, even if youre not gonna start it for a month, use this month to work out a plan

What do you guys think about homemade protein bar recepies?

>>40843311
half a box of stuffing

>>40844482
they're really good, i've tried literally every flavor.

there's a big discrepancy in the flavor of them though. the birthday cake flavor, for instance, tastes really chemical-like and weird.

best ones i've tried are the red velvet flavor, peanut butter, and cookie dough. they all taste just like "real" ice cream. of course these are all the highest calorie ones, but none of them exceed 400 calories. compare to ben and jerry's at 1200+ calories a pint.

>>40844396
Anon I had the same problem last night. My brain fucks me every time. I start rationalizing eating badly or binging. What did my brain mean by this?

>>40844451
You sound like a prime example of confirmation bias.

Rat studies should only be considered as guides for researchers to pick things to study in humans. You don't draw conclusions to humans from rat studies. Observational studies are always confounded by a million things. You can never completely adjust for confounders. Furthermore, nutritional science is in as bad shape as social sciences in terms of the quality of studies. Who knows how many Brian Wansinks there are among the researchers of the studies you posted. I'd wait 20 years for new studies to be done with improved assurances of research quality before believing any new major nutritional discoveries.

>>40844443

Nah it's not a problem. The fries I'm craving aren't even available. I used to occasionally order chicken from this place that came with fries of course. And the fries were meidocre as fuck. But reheated the next day in the oven they were great. That's hella specific and not impulse-obtainable. Thankfully.

>>40844451
>Low-carb diets causes weight cycling

Is this true bros? Should I start eating pasta and rice again?

>>40844451
This study is still terrible, it is easy as hell to eat shitty foods at a "health food" store..they would need to actually track each individuals entire eating habits to compare them. This just goes back to the last point that a vegan will make more health conscience choices than a meat eater as well as having a lot fewer shitty foods to even possibly eat.

I've already dropped red meat from my diet and stick to chicken/fish for my meat sources. If you try and tell me those are bad for you, then you are dunce.

I can see preaching Flexitarianism (meat in moderation), but full veganism for HEALTH reasons is retarded.

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>>40844526
Gotta eat big so you survive the coming winter when the crops dont grow and hunting is scarce.

>>40844539
It's fucking criminal how cheap ice cream is

>>40844520
>ben and jerry's at 1200+ calories a pint.

tfw i used to eat a pint of ben and jerrys and not think its a big deal

god i really didn't care did i?

>>40843311
i ate a small piece of cake and a jar of salsa.

i feel dirty

anyone else get headaches when losing a lotta weight?

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>>40844539
>used to be legit addicted to half baked
>mfw i found out the owners of ben and jerry's are worthless sjw communists
>mfw i no longer crave ben and jerry's since i don't want to give them money

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>>40844564
Try eating 2 pints every other day for a month.

t.gained 8kg (18lbs) in 1 month.

>>40844539
>Gotta eat big so you survive the coming winter when the crops dont grow and hunting is scarce.

Doesn't my brain know that I am already fat and can handle the harsh winter?

>>40844539
>Tubs of Reece's and Snickers ice cream

I'm glad I'm not American as I'd be on 600lb life if i had access to them.

I love Snickers ice cream

>>40844567
salsa is usually like 100-200 calories for the entire jar dude.

It's literally just crushed tomatoes and veg

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Post your trigger anons

pic fucking related, I can literally eat 1.5 kg of this shit easily.

>>40844567
>a jar of salsa.

bruh why?

>>40844564
The pint of ice cream is inherently designed to trick you. most people do not eat exactly 25% of the container. most people eat all of it. it's like individual soda bottles that say "2.5 servings per container"

>>40844529
We've known animal fats contribute to heart disease since 1913. The scientific community is as sure of it as they are that smoking causes lung cancer. You can keep waiting for the one amazing study that finally proves butter isn't a health food, but I'll just assume that given the vast amount of evidence pointing toward that conclusion that it's true.

>>40844537
Brown rice, oatmeal, and whole grains lower your cholesterol and reduce your risk of getting diabetes, cancer, and heart disease. Unless you have a medical reason, you should consume multiple servings of whole grains every day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOyebcrVWb4

>>40844576
Either you are running too big a calorie deficit or not drinking enough water.

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Everyone post your daily food log. let's see em.

>>40844576
drink more water

>>40844592
i honestly feel dirty anytime i eat, and i haven't lost any weight despite being 1k under my tdee

>>40844604
i like salsa

>>40844539
WTF are those sizes?! No wonders Americans are lardasses.

>>40844538
>stick to chicken/fish for my meat sources. If you try and tell me those are bad for you, then you are dunce.

Fish are filled with dioxins, PCBs, and mercury. Chicken contains high amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol. Replacing them with plant-based protein improves your health.

Do you still eat eggs, milk, and milk-products?

>>40844593
OMGGGG my family loves that shit. Luckily its not easy to get good ones so I only have it like once every six months

>>40843311

Yesterday I ate a kebab. It was within calorie budget and only because I was emergency called into work and couldn't prep anything (I was there from 5PM to 5AM). It's also literally the only thing I ate so had my deficit.

Still....fuckin' garbage way to lose cut.

>>40843311
I wish whoever is posting these every thread would stop, there is really no value in glorifying the anons that will never make it.

>>40844634
>tfw turkish
>tfw can easily access the best quality ones with a 5 minute walk
>tfw I have to physically stop myself from doing so

It's even worse when I go visit my parents and my mom makes a whole bunch of them and guilts me into eating them

>>40844607
fuck i hate those soda bottles. they also do it with ramen, as if you're going to only eat half a pack of ramen

>>40844646

Imperfection =/= failure

That mindset leads to giving up. You fuck up then do better tomorrow. Instead of saying "If you fuck up once you'll never make it. Oo I fucked up I guess I might as well just give up and gorge myself on shit"

You've got the bad mindset here bro.

>>40844614
It's 10 am and I haven't eaten anything

>>40844659
I assume you are American? Here in Europe we have smaller packages. The American versions are also available but they are usually called "Jumbo"-sized or some other shit.

>>40844646
I rather the anons on /fat/ be honest with themselves and feel shitty about it than just never mention their fuck ups and keep making them

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>>40844593
I eat this almost daily. I pop in oil so it's not near as healthy as it could be, but there's tons of ways to mix it up.

Pan frying a bunch of garlic in the oil first and saving the garlic chips to add on top is an easy and fast way to improve it.

Mixing a little butter with a hot sauce, something real hot like ghost pepper, then tossing the popcorn in that and baking it for a few minutes after to dry it back out is delicious.

Even tried making a caramel glaze with butter and brown sugar to make caramel corn. Took an hour to bake but came out really tasty. This one isn't healthy at all though and I'm pretty ashamed how easily I chomped down.

Anyone got any ideas to try with popcorn?

>>40844632
>le mercury in fish is bad

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fish/

Don't eat eggs and whey is pretty much my only daily dairy source.

Today's main meal:

500g chicken breast
2 peppers
1 onion
1 big stalk of broccoli
100g uncooked rice
Teriyaki sauce.

~1050 calories (550 chicken + 320 rice = 870. 130 is reasonable for the veggies. Depends on how big the peppers and onions I buy are I guess. Add an extra 50 or so for Teriyaki sauce)

This will fill a big ass frying pan + smallish bowl of rice, and will be all I need to eat today. It will also be absolutely delicious. I may have a protein shake later at night or something but probably I won't be hungry since I basically do IF and after eating this I'm unlikely to need anything else. Also might spread it out over the 8 hours.

Is it ok to feel hungry?

Should i wait untill next sheduled meal, or just eat a little?

>>40844713
Sounds really fucking good anon

>>40844721
It's okay to feel hungry as long as its not the "I am going to throw up" kind of hungry.

>>40844646
I have lost over 100lbs in part thanks to /fit/
Threads like this & fat hate threads have kept me motivated & every now and then I get a different idea on how to meet my goals...
Reading the sticky is only part of the equation... people need motivation and the chance to share ideas that they have had success with.

>>40844721
just drink some coffee or tea

>>40844721
tough it out, look forward to the next planned meal

>>40844669
i have already reached a normal weight after 9 months of not exceeding my calorie goal even once.

>>40844733
i wish my family wasnt terrible at being a support team, probably why i come here so much

>tfw almost below 300 after starting at ~340 earlier this year

>>40844724

Yeah it's simple as fuck to make too.

Chop everything
Cook chicken
Salt and pepper chicken a bit
Add in veggies
Cook on high heat
Salt and pepper round 2
Add sauce at the end.
Cook on high in sauce for a minute
Cook rice at some point during this.

That's literally it. Chop everything. Pan. Cook rice. And it's fantastic. The teriyaki sauce is the only non healthy thing but it's only some, not a huge calorie sink, and takes it from like a 5/10 perfectly average semi-tasteless health conscious stir fry to like an 8/10 "if I wasn't 'dieting/watching my calories' I'd still want to eat this" meal for only a negligible calorie increase. That 50 calories is worth it to not give up on your cut.

>>40844748

And that's awesome. But if someone exceeds their calorie goal once should they just give up and go back to sleeping in their car outside mcdonalds?

Or should they acknowledge their fuckup and then the next day eat healthy, and the day after that, and make improvements?

>>40844753
Nice job anon, 40 lbs within 3 months is pretty good!

>>40844754
Yeah I might actually make this when I am meal prepping today anon, thanks for the recipe! I might use some soy sauce and sriracha over the terriyaki though

What are the most helpful foods for you in terms of weight loss?

I honestly don't think I could have lost weight if not for eggs. I love eggs and they fill me up and keep me sated for such a long time.

>>40844721
Again going to advise a small water fast to know what real hunger is.

Most of what you think of as hunger is either thirst or just cravings. If you have the willpower to go a whole day or so without eating you'll realize (once you get over the "hump") just how little you really need. Helped me a LOT with the constant "I'm feeling tired I need a pick me up" thoughts at work.

Although I still have them because work is soul draining and I hate life just going.

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>>40844593
Mexican food. Speaking of which, would it be a good idea if I cut a hundred or so calories out of my daily intake s day for the week before plan a cheat at a Mexican restaurant knowing it's going go be a lot?

>>40844785
I'm really hoping I can get down to below 300 this month. My weight's fluctuating between 301 and 305 when I weigh myself but I still can't believe it doesn't read 340 anymore.

>>40844817
Spinach and eggs.

>>40844816

I do that too. I recommend buying fresh ginger and doing soy sauce and grinding/shredding/grating/whateverthefucking some ginger in with the soy sauce. Go a bit ligher than you think you need or else you'll be like me and have the most ginger fuckin' stir fry ever known to man.

>>40844827
You have a week to lose that final few lbs, and at your weight you should be able to do it no problem. Just drink water, and stay at a deficit. You got it.

>>40844849
I'm not going to buy fresh ginger anon I have things to do

>>40844826

Smart plan.

At one point I was quite slim and I got there mostly with home made tacos. Tempted to go back to my wonderful taco diet.

>>40844865

Next time then bruh. Just saying, it's an option. Little things like that help you vary it. If you do a bunch of portions of it for a week, do some with ginger some without so you can have some calorie-neutral variety.

>>40844833
Hey. You just reminded me that I needed to watch this still. Thanks anon.
https://youtu.be/aczBmrYHZP0

>>40844885
Okay man I might do that, eating the same thing day in and day out does get old after a while

>>40844816

Another good alternative of the same thing:
Cook chicken
Add Pepper/onion/garlic and 2 chicken stock cubes
Cover and reduce heat to pressure cook for a bit
Uncover and crank that soulja boi to max to get the liquid out.
Put it in a wrap with a bit of cheese.

Delicious. Slightly calorie/carb heavier than it could be because of the wrap/cheese but it's not too bad and it's really legitimately delicious.

>>40844906

Yeah. It's really helpful to learn like...how to alter the same thing to make it different. Ginger soy version. Teriyaki version. You could take the regular soy version and put it in a wrap with a bit of cheese for a fajita instead of rice sometimes.

Do one but replace the broccoli with string beans.

That's like 4 or 5 quite different tasting meals all basically using the same ingredients.

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>>40843219
>ate 4 magnum classics in the span of 24 hours
there goes my discipline

>>40844817
plain mashed potatoes covered in pepper, chicken breast

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>>40844943
1 would be a loss
4 is a sign of weakness

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>>40844943
>ate 4 big krabby patties in last 24h
there goes my discipline

>>40844943
Move past it and try not to let it happen again.

>>40844997
thats the plan

>>40844943
How do you let yourself o this to yourself you retard, yes if you cant stay away from food you deserve to be a fat retard. Fucking landwhale crying about not being abble to stop himself from eating. You could have stopped at 0 or 1 or 2 or 3 but 4!

Stop responding to Vegan bait you autists. Just ignore them. Everyday one of you gets baited by the samefag who posts Natalie Portman pics.

>>40844707
popcorn is a useless food. corn is the most pathetic vegetable on the planet.

>>40845053
>implying our response to a bait is not just a bait.

They are playing checkers whille we are playing 3D chess.

>>40845057
>useless food
>low cal
>satisfies salt cravings entirely
>delicious

Your wisdom astounds me, anon, you should be a personal trainer with a mind like that.

Does intermittent fasting actually provide any additional biological weight loss?

I started IF and I admit it's helpful because now I limit my calories to an 8 hour window, so after 6:00 I no longer have the option of saying "well maybe I'll have an extra fiber bar or a string cheese". So my benefit is really just an improved habit, not weight loss attributed to IF itself.

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>>40843219
>calculate your bf%
Mine says: Body Fat: 14%
Fat Mass: 16 lbs
Lean Mass: 101 lbs

I think that calculator might be wrong.

It also says my TDEE is 2,102. For a 5'7 grill this doesn't seem accurate.

>>40843228
Yes but everyone on here is fat because they're weak willed, are you surprised?

>>40843306
See pic. I'm getting there.

>>40845106
By all means, it makes it easier to not cheat when you limit yourself to an eating window. But there are quite a few actual benefits too.

I was much leaner last year on IF, stupidly went off it for winter bulk. Never going off it again.

https://authoritynutrition.com/10-health-benefits-of-intermittent-fasting/

>>40843311
None, but today is the refeed. Breaking fast at 3pm for Sunday dinner with family.

>>40843334
Yes we do. If your weight loss has slowed you're eating too much, so even if you think you're measuring everything right you could be underestimating. Up your cardio/lower weight lifting for a girl for fat loss.

>>40843311
I had an entire pint of B&J peanut butter ice cream. It was worth it.


Also, plateauing is a thing.

>>40844943
Why didn't you just stop after the first?

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Just did 30 minutes high-intensity on the elliptical and now eating some protein curd. We're all gonna make it.

just ate 200g of chicken breast
3 slices of salami
an little cottage cheese.

Rate meal.

>>40845183
choose one:
>eating
>making it

>>40845246
Is this bait or something? It's completely within my daily calorie allowance, actually I'm probably gonna go under it today.

>>40845279
Of course it's bait. And you're part of the problem responding to it

>>40845244
>Salami
dropped

>>40845279
>Is this bait or something?
With that aditude you are newer gonna make it.

[spoiler]Sorry kid it's not like you had any chances to begin with.[/spoiler]

just ate 500 calories of chicken and potatoes, feel so full

shits magic

>>40845292
Could i get reasoning for such opinion?

>>40845318
77% fat, most of which is saturated.

/fat/ what should I do first today? Should I go to the grocery store then meal prep and then go to the gym or should I go to the gym first?

>>40845318
Pretty sure salami is one of the, if not the most, calorically dense deli meats

>>40843219
Friday night I made a lemon bar (4" diameter). I used stevia those, and only had about 1/3 of it.

Parents took me out to dinner last night, I had about 700 cal left from my deficit and I'm pretty sure I reached it and had a mini cupcake. I had a small piece of bruschetta, then I had halibut and string beans for dinner, I had a few pieces of my dad's steak and a few pieces of my mom's braised beef. Not gonna make it.

>>40845351
>>40845357
So did i fuck myself over?

My goal is ~1900 calories, and only thing i ate before this meal was a bowl of cereal with milk.

>>40845246
How the fuck do you make it without eating, you dense motherfucking retard...

I swear, the bait is real...

>>40845440
Depends on the amount, weigh how many grams of salami you ate and count the calories. You should be doing that anyways.

>>40845440
>eating cereal with milk

Jesus christ anon, your diet is terrible. First salami, now cereal. Oats >

>>40845463
I am sorry from now on, i will only drink water, until Auschwich mode, and then only SS + GOMAD

Anyone tried bullet proof coffee while losing weight? I normally fast 24 hours, then have one pretty big meal. I have lost a lot of weight during the last 5 weeks(lost 8kg). Today I "broke" my fast with a bullet proof coffee after 22 hours fasting and went to the gym early. I had a lot more energy than I normally have.
Do anyone have any experience with this? Since I only tried it one time so far, I have no idea if it actually works, or if the energy came from placebo effect.

Anybody here eat cottage cheese? I don't like it that much but the protien/carb/calories if the lowfat varieties seem good and I can palate it with some black pepper.

Any recommended brands or serving suggestions for the stuff?

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>>40845440
Can I suggest overnight oats to you as well? I use steel cut regular (not the quick kind), which normally take something like half an hour to cook on the stove top.

All you do is put your serving of oats in a container with the serving of milk. I like 1 cup milk to 1/4 or 1/2 cup oats (they're denser than rolled oats) which comes out with a good amount of extra milk--which I like, but you can cut down on that too if you want.

You just combine ingredients in a jar/container and leave it in the fridge. It makes it super easy to count the calories, because you won't be tempted to add more the day of if you're going into it hungry. You can also try different ingredients, like adding a swirl of honey or a handful of raisins.

The end result, with steel cut anyway, is like a chewy hearty breakfast cereal. It's satisfying for a much longer period of time than any boxed cereal I've had. When you first make it, I guarantee you're going to look at how little a 1/4 (even a 1/2) cup of steel cut oats is and think it'll never fill you up, but give it a try.

I also read a lot of people use rolled oats (again, not instant, this shit will turn to absolute MUSH if it soaks overnight) and I still need to try it, but if you can find it steel cut is delicious.

>>40845508
Looking around online at the results for bulletproof coffee seems like a ridiculous meme scam, to be honest.
>Brain Octane Oil
>Upgraded Coffee
>Butter from grass-fed cows
Is this a stupid marketing shtick?

Is this the only form of bulletproof coffee or is that a regular form that's just butter in coffee? I do regular small fasts as well and any calories at the end usually give me a boost of energy--perhaps this is what you're feeling (plus the caffeine from the coffee can't hurt).

The only concern I'd have is the ease of drinking calories added to what you're already eating. 2tbsp of butter and a tbsp of this oil must be around 300kcal, which is no small amount for one drink.

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3.4lbs down from last week. It's all coming together, /fat/.

>>40845057
Corn is high in fiber and not a vegetable.

>>40843228
Gf invited me to the sugar shack with her family. There was maple syrup everywhere, on the ham, the bacon, the beans and on sticks. That was 5000 calories easy.

>>40845106
>Does intermittent fasting actually provide any additional biological weight loss?
No. I do IF and I prefer it, but it doesn't magically make you lose weight any faster. What it does is it keeps you from snacking and straying, if you have the discipline.

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Made rancho eggs over salad
Ate too much tri tip and fetta last night , but weight still lower today , thank you ketosis

>>40845106
>Does intermittent fasting actually provide any additional biological weight loss?

It can be more effective when recomping, that is, maintaining weight while cycling calories to slowly lower BF% and increase muscle mass. One clear benefit is controlling when you're hungry. In IF you concentrate your eating to the latter half of the day so you won't be hungry all day. Getting to eat at least one big satisfying meal each day can help mentally too.

>>40845802
corn is a fruit

>>40845106
Not sure about the weight loss, but my blood pressure and heart rate both dropped when i did IF.

>>40845933
Also wrong, corn is a meat

Found an old bottle of lube i used with my oneitis to fuck her ass. The memories and feels came back.

No wonder I'm a fatass, I'm weak as fuck

>>40845933
Corn is a seed like sunflowers and peanuts.

>>40845921
>Getting to eat at least one big satisfying meal each day can help mentally too.
This is another benefit for me, personally. I'd go crazy if I only ate 3 small meals. I'd rather have one smal meal, then a normal sized one like 400 cal for an early lunch, then an 800 cal dinner.

>>40845975
Joking aside, you are wrong, too. Corn is a grain.

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>from 307 to 275 in the first month

Will I finally make it to sub 200 this year?

>>40846019
76lbs in 9 months? It'll be hard, but you can do it. If you have good discipline and not fuck up on Holidays, no problem.

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>>40843219
For some reason it says I have lost about 13 to 15 Ibs,in about 2 weeks. Is that bad? I know I've been undereating 800 to 1000 calories below my CUTTING calories, but sometimes I'm just not hungry anymore.

Fuck, I ate a lot of sweets today. I still have some broccoli and chicken left, but besides that I think I'll just shake some bananas and milk and call it a day. I fucked up hard today, but I'm still under my TDEE.

>>40846019
Remember that it'll get harder the more you lose. Keep that goal weight in mind and press yourself harder each time you hit a milestone.

>>40846062
Water weight fluctuates a lot. As far as not hungry, most of your hunger was mental to begin with, but your body is probably getting used to the lack of food.

As for if it's bad or not, I think it depends how many nutrients you're getting. Make sure you're supplementing with a multi at the very least.

>>40846062
>Is that bad?

Are you taking a multivitamin? Getting deficient in micronutrients is bad.

>>40845759

I agree. Mine was around 120 kcal using coconut oil and alittle butter. It's not so much.


But if it continues like today, and I can burn 200 extra kcals and maybe get some extra afterburner effect from doing HIIT. It could be useful in that way. I normally find HIIT quite difficult when Im fasted.

>>40843219
tomorrow is day 50 of me starting all of this and i've lost 15 lbs so far
feelsgoodman

>>40843311
Someone gave me girl scout cupcakes. Thin mint flavor. I wanted to reject the temptation father, but i just couldn't I became weak.

I go to the gym, sometimes i feel like i'm just not doing my exercises right but i get all sweaty and don't injure myself.

>>40845974

Was she fat too? Be honest.

>>40844713

Update no one cares about:
Shops are closed. Couldn't get chicken. Had to substitute beef my flatmate has instead.

Teriyaki beef is delicious. I'll keep you posted.

>>40846124
>I fucked up hard today, but I'm still under my TDEE.

At least you fucked up the right way.

>>40844750
Stick with it anon, it's worth it imo

Just try and limit your exposure to the negative influences of your family

>>40846381
Thats really good for just under two months! What are your stats?

>>40846600
Terriyaki beef is honestly more fitting than terriyaki chicken tbqh

Just went on a 45 min run on the elliptical. Does cardio ever get fun or am I going to wanna die every time?

>>40846354
I could see it being useful for training, sure, but is it more useful than having a snack of the same caloric content and a cup of black coffee?

Really that's all that matters anyway, right? As long as you hit your TDEE goals and get your nutrients in as well.

>>40846678

Your capacity for suffering increases. That sounds weird but that's the best description I can think of.

>>40846563
Nope and i was actually just hitting /fit/ at the time.

>>40846678
Really if you don't enjoy cardio from the beginning you'll never enjoy it.

>>40846600
Beef is always better for teriyaki

>tfw constant yo-yo weight loss has probably reduced my lifespan by a decade

I hate that my stomach is the last place to lose fat. Nothing quite as demoralizing as living on 1500 calories of veggies and boiled chicken and having to wake up to see no difference in your appearance.

>>40846789

I have no idea. Maybe the combination of caffeine and healthy fats are good. Im also in ketosis because I dont eat more than 20-35g of carbs in my one meal a day, and it could be a factor. I heard coconut oil turns into ketones very fast.

I'll try again tomorrow and see if it gives the same results. At the end of the day, I agree with the TDEE thing.

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>>40843311
2 full things of pringles (original flavor)
an entire box of girl scout mint cookies
4 Twinkies, and 3 snack cakes
2 ice creams with caramel filling
3 sausages with chedder and jalapeno mixed in

2 of these cake things on a stick (dont know name for it)

a can of this one weird food item (had sausage, chicken and ham in it)

so how fucked am i ?

>>40846922
I'm down to 139 from 185 or so and I still hate how my stomach looks. Also the remarks from everyone are annoying as fuck.

>You're too skinny
>Fad diet advice tip #423
>You should eat more

Is it just human nature to try to bring people to your level? All anyone at work talks about is wanting to lose weight (they even have a competition yearly) yet when someone does they deem it an issue. Aggravating.

>>40846976
I like to lurk these threads, please post your results! One thing I forgot to ask you--how did it taste? Is it a good "wake up and go" item?

>>40846872

Yeah but chicken is better for cutting. Trade offs.

>>40846844
Does this mean I'll never make it?

>>40847232

Nah you just do it anyway. Life sucks.

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I'm fairly big, 12%bf but want to lose my mass, more over upper body to become competitive in running again and win some runs.

How can I do it except starving myself?

Large deficite and little protein intake should burn my muscles, but again->starving and not very healthy for hormons and psych.
I started to work out only my lowerbody but I still get a pump in my upper body, even from running.

>>40846995
god damn 2 of the big tubes? if I eat like half or 3/4 of one i feel like absolute garbo

>>40847232
You can make it. You just won't enjoy the cardio aspect. Fortunately I fucking love running but my legs kinda hurt the day afterwards. Hopefully as I lose more weight it'll become less painful.

>tfw you haven't cheated in a month
C-can I have a (You) for encouragement?

>>40847433
You go man. You did good

>>40846656
>What are your stats
what do you mean? like my macros?

>>40847372
i have an issue, where i feel like i have to have the food so no one else can.. for instance, i would eat a snack cake, just so my brother couldn't. well when pringles was brought into my house, at first i hid them in my closet and had no intention to eat them, but food pangs got to me. i ate the food tube, but damn it i had to have more. but yeah i felt so god damn sick, even brought the small bathroom trash can in my room, just in case i threw up (fucked up part about the whole situation is, less then a hour later i was hungry again)

but before you give up on me completely, i've since started smashing every unhealthy item in muh house. (junk food anyways) i figure, if my family wants to fuck my diet up, then i'll just make sure no one gets anything unhealthy.

>>40847433
congrats bro! :D

>>40847433
(you)
:)

>1 month
>last 2 weeks had no progress in weight

I think the most important thing we should all be doing is building up a 'book' of recipes and foods we enjoy eating that lets us keep our calories down.

Look at it this way: best case scenario is that your cutting calories are your maintenance when you hit your goal weight and stop losing.

That means that if you can create a diet you enjoy and foods you don't hate for that amount while losing, you won't go back up. Because I think what kills everyone is they have a shit diet > they get a good diet to lose > they hit their goal weight and need to change their diet again because otherwise they'll go full skeleton > they go too far and get a shit diet > repeat until grave

But I almost think the best way to lose weight is to just eat at maintenance for your goal weight. Like use that as your cutting deficit and that way you don't have to change later. Those last few pounds will be hard that way but. You can adjust.

How many calories does running really burn? Is there some way to estimate?

Really considering cheating today. I really wanted to try the Grad Mac at McDonald's before I started my cut, but never got around to. I checked the facts on MFP, and if I have one and a medium fry, I'll still only be at 1500 calories for the day. But I keep thinking about how much chicken and vegetables I could eat instead, as I am quite hungry. I don't know what to do. Maybe just the sandwich, no fries. Then just have veggies tonight? Should I just stay strong? It's hard knowing I can fit it in to my budget. But I also know I would be hungry again shortly after. Give me advice /fat/

>>40847551
Download RunKeeper, same company as MFP.
Either that or use one of the online calculators. The rule is, running never burns as much as you think it does if you're not doing it for at least an hour

>>40847149
It tasted ok. It was nice to drink something else than water and black coffee for once :)

I will report back tomorrow and write if it still have the same effect

>>40847579
Don't do it not because you can, but because if you don't have the willpower to face temptation head on you'll never ever make it.
Also it'll just continue the cycle of making you hungry for that sort of shitty food. Do the chicken and vegetables

>>40843311
Yesterday I ate 4 homemade waffles. Two of them were blueberry, the other two I put chocolate syrup on.

About to go to the gym. Pray for me that this white bitch isn't there who plays her shitty hiphop music without headphones.

>>40846678
It's fun for me when I can listen to music.

>>40847583
is it much different from endomondo?

>>40847579

Stay strong, if you cheat, you will regret it. All the sugar and bad fats will make you feel hungry for days!

It is never worth falling off. Stay strong until you reach your goal. Follow your plan

>>40847596
I know I can face temptation head on. My biggest weakness is a chinese buffet. I had to take my client there on Friday. (I work with mentally retarded people) I just hit the salad bar hard, then did steak and sea food. Went a little heavy on the steak, but didn't do too bad considering the ocean of deep fried, sugar sauced bull shit I had to swim through to find the reasonably healthy stuff.

>>40847579

Ok. Don't cheat today. Cheating is fine in moderation. But only when you plan ahead. Then it's part of the plan. It's not a slip up. It's not an excuse to backslide. You really want to try it? Plan to go in 3-4 days. That way it's not you giving in. It's you making a decision.

who keto here?

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>>40843219
>slowly gained weight over my first 18 years
>was overweight but always athletic up until grade 12
>go to college, gain my freshman 50
>leave after 1 year, work for another year
>go back to college, realized im way too beefcake
>drop weight for the first time in my life, wondering about if the scale is actually working because it's so fucking easy

wew, only didn't lose weight last week because i got stoned and pigged out the night before weigh-in

still got a way to go though, i have a fair bit of muscle on me because hockey quads and alright bench so I'll prob start to feel comfy around 210 or 200 pounds

>>40847481
You're acting like a child, and from your living situation it sounds like you might actually be on the younger side. "Smashing every unhealthy item" is the most infantile idea I've ever heard.

Why don't you sit down and talk with your parents and brother about your weight loss goals and ask for encouragement? From all the shit you ate I'm guessing your parents and brother are also overweight, maybe it would be easier if everyone tried eating healthy together. At the very least, getting it out in the open might help your mental state, which is a huge part of losing weight and keeping it off.

You probably also need to see a therapist about your weird food stealing habits. I'm guessing you weren't born and raised in actual starvation so I can't fathom why you're acting like that.

>>40846678
i never enjoyed running for cardio and i don't mind biking, but i've found that i really enjoy rowing. some times you need to find what works for you

Are you supposed to train after breakfast or after dinner?

>>40847596
>>40847620
Also, my main reason for even considering such an atrocity is, I just got home from work this morning (I work away 3 days a week). I just got paid, and I have to go grocery shopping, I have nothing at home to eat right now, and I haven't eaten today. The grand mac popped into my head and won't go away due to hunger. Although, the more I think about it, the less I actually want it. I'm now leaning more towards ordering a grilled chicken salad from the italian place across the street from my apartment to eat before I leave. I think that could be a better option. Normally I would just tough it out until I get groceries, but I'm at the about-to-vomit stage of hunger.

>>40847462
Height, weight, goal weight, etc.

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What's your favorite food? What's the one thing that, on your cut, you miss the most? Post it and the people here who can cook/know food will try to help you think up a healthy alternative.

Be honest. Don't say "Oh my favorite food is steamed broccoli I just love it mm mm"

Pic related. Probably your answer.

>>40843311
I was prepping next weeks meals and ended up binging 4 pounds of refrigirator-cold lean skinless chicken..

Forgive me Father Fat!

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>>40847996
My grilled chicken thighs. God damn were they good. I don't think I will ever eat them again though because I am now vegan. They were definitely bad for me though.

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>>40847996
I like to snack, and my favorite snack is Snyder's Salt & Vinegar chips.
It hurts.

>>40847996
Not my favorite food, but favorite junkfood:

Chicken hamburgers where the chicken is breaded. Not really the worst ever. McChicken has like 445 calories.

Other is french fries.

>>40847809
About-to-vomit stage from hunger? How long has it been since you ate? I'm going on about 21 hours and while I'm losing mental focus my body otherwise feels fine.

Are you sure this isn't just a mental hump you can push through until you get groceries? Salads from restaurants can have a lot of hidden calories in them, depending on what they include (oils, how they cooked the chicken, etc). If you really are dying though sounds like a pretty solid option! Good luck.

>>40846678
>using indoor machines to simulate outdoor activities

Go jog or ride a bike ffs.

At the end of summer 2016, i had 98 kg, or about 210 lbs or so i think, now i'm down to 85 kg or 185 lbs if i'm not mistaken.

We're all gonna make it brah

>>40848034

Why can't you do them? Grilled is ok as long as they're not slathered in high calorie sauces. For example a garlic and herb or lemon juice thing are both delicious and can be used when grilling (or baking) chicken as an alternative to say fried chicken like in the post.

>>40848036

Hmmm. I'm not sure what to replace them with that's LIKE it. I'd generally suggest nuts but you have to be moderate there too. I'm lucky that I don't care for chips really. I'd kill everyone in this thread for pretzels though.

>>40848044

Well you can make your own chicken burgers. Breading a boneless skinless chicken breast and baking it in the oven isn't particularly bad. Especially because you can get better things to bread with. Look into it, there's whole wheat breading, and other things as well. It's a bit of extra carbs than you'd otherwise get but and what? Budget it. Have a whole wheat bun and go easy on the sauces. It's not bad at all.

>>40848061
Its raining.

>>40848103
Go jog or ride a bike ffs.

>>40847986
>5'11 King of manlets
>229
>goal is 160
anything below 180 is normal BMI for me

Start of the month got body comp scan, 108.5kg with 26% bf.

Woke up early today and instead of browsing fit I got up and went to gym. Weighed myself before going, 104.1kg.

Feels good man, but still a long way to go and will only get harder, means I need to train harder.

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>complained couple of threads ago about being womanlet and stalling at weight
>cut calories down to 900-1000 and burned 300 cals on eliptical Thr-Sat
>finally down another lb

It's slow going but I'm so happy to see some sort of progress again. Just gotta keep at it.

>I weigh less in the morning than the night before
I mean I'm not complaining, but pls explain

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Made this lads. She's callin me home to her arms.

>>40848173
you breathe out water

I just woke up
3.5 hours left in the day and I'm at 0 calories

...win?

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>>40848173
You're converting mass to energy, don't they teach anything in schools these days?

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>>40848096
>asking why a vegan can't do grilled chicken thighs
I think you missed part of that post!

>>40848036
I'm just like you, I could snack on salt all day. I'm this anon here >>40844707 and I'm honestly clueless why more people don't eat popcorn. You can make a shitload and keep the calories low, WAY lower than anything chips could ever offer, and you can mix up the flavorings any way you want. I found a couple salt and vinegar popcorn recipes in like two seconds searching online.

It's easy enough people that aren't experienced with cooking can get into it, and the more experience you get the cooler the combinations you can make. Plus, if you fuck up a batch, who cares, throw it out. It's super cheap.

>>40848044
Also with you anon, breaded chicken sandwiches are fucking great. Breaded chicken anything. Not sure what the replacement is except just not eating it for a year and losing all cravings for it.

The fries, however, you could probably find a suitable replacement. Potatoes can be good for you in moderation, and there are a lot of ways to cook them to keep it interesting. Plus they last for a long ass time on top of your fridge if you never have time to cook them.

The trick is to find a way to cook it so that you don't add all the usual restaurant extras, like sour cream, butter, bacon, etc. A normal baked potato comes out with a texture that (to me) requires some kind of butter/cream. One recipe I found was a 3 hour baked potato, which is literally just
>Scrub potato clean
>Light coating of olive oil+salt
>Put in oven at 350 for 3 hours
No puncturing or foil or anything. The inside comes out very creamyish on it's own, and the skin turns almost hard chip-like. Great combo.

Or you could try hasselbacking a potato to up your plating game. Easy to do and it's something different. Pic related.

>>40848096
Grilled chicken thighs with skin on are really high in fat and calorie. I only put only about 1 Tbsp of BBQ sauce.

I'm vegan now though, so there's that stopping me too.

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>>40843476
Self control can only turn you into a better person.

>helps you go to bed instead of staying up for your fourth fap of the night
>order smaller meals at restaurants instead of big meals and then eating until you throw up because you feel bad bout eating it and wasting money


My partner bought almond milk ice cream (she's breastfeeding and dairy makes my baby vomit and lose her gains), its actually not bad, and has less calories than regular ice cream. Not as good as the one that the other anon linked though.

>tfw when you turn down ice cream because too sweet

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>>40848230
>helps you go to bed instead of staying up for your fourth fap of the night
Why do I know this feel.

>sister: have you lost weight?
>me: have you found it?
didn't mean to say that
feel really bad now

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>>40848240
It's good to know there are people out there with much worse autism than me.

>>40848240
What the fuck anon.

>>40848210

Man I sure did. Sorry bruh.

Also don't forget you can do sweet potato fries but baked. You just cut the sweet potatoes into fries, tiny bit of oil, salt and pepper, then oven bake.

>>40848229

Yeah it's the skin that's the big issue. You gotta either budget for those extra calories or go skin off. My father used to make this absolutely delicious chicken thigh tomato...thing. It was like, pasta with tomato sauce and chicken thighs. Using whole wheat pasta and making sure to add lots of mushrooms, it could be decent for a really filling, maybe not low but medium calorie meal. And the tomato sauce wasn't a store bought one with sugars or anything it was basically just an utter shitton of tomato. I should get that recipe off him.

Is there anything bad healthwise in la croix?

>>40848289
There is also a good deal of fat on the thighs. Large pockets of it. They sell boneless skinless chicken thighs, but when you grill it with the skin on it completely changes the flavor even if you take it off after.

I like want to eat them, but thinking about it after going vegan it just hits me like, how can I pay and contribute to the suffering and death of the animal I'm about to eat? It's not something I feel I can do anymore. It would make me a hypocrite, and I'd regret it, even if it caused me some joy in the moment. I can always just eat some candy if all I want is some momentary deliciousness.

>>40844564

Christ.

I'm a fatass and my carton of Creme Egg ice cream has taken me 4 sessions to finish it off.

>>40848322
Carbonation hurts your tooth enamel. Use a straw to help, and rinse your mouth with water when you're done drinking it.

Also if you drink only la croix all day, you're not controlling your cravings, you're just pushing them in a different direction.

>>40843228

I ate 5 eggs, a can of mixed vegetables, and drank 12 beers yesterday. Still 130 calories under my goal.

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6'4 210lbs right now and feeling fat as fuck. Using this thread as motivation

Pic is post-workout. I put on my girlfriend's totoro dress because it looks better on me.

>tfw no carbs tonight

>>40844582
That's some really bad addiction man...

>>40848169
Checking the scales as a woman is a mindfuck due to menstrual cycle and water retention. Alan Aragon recommended women should just weigh themselves once a month

>>40848379
Do you wear lipstick with that dress?

>>40848240
It sounds like she was being complimentary--did you think she was attacking you?

I've done things like that too. Go apologize sooner rather than later, and don't toss all the blame on anything like the diet because that's a cop out and you'll both know it.

>>40848289
It's okay, I wasn't the vegan anyway. The sweet potato fries sound great, I wonder why I haven't attempted that yet. Thanks!

>>40848322
Haven't personally had it myself, but I can tell you that I used to drink a diet soda every now and then as a "reward" for myself. I found what >>40848367 is saying to be true about the cravings. I'd lose all interest in water and only want more of the sweet stuff.

Although I am terribly bad at managing cravings of that nature so I prefer to go 100% without. You might be different.

>>40844593

Muscles, Squid and Prawns on a Pizza puts me in a food coma.

>>40848379
You and I both know that is your sister's. Don't worry. I'll never tell.

>>40848400

Advice re: sweet potato fries: cook 'em long and low then do 'em 5 minutes or something on high at the end to crisp 'em up on the outside and still leave 'em soft on the inside.

You're welcome.

>>40848402
>muscles
>seafood

lmfao you'd be hilarious to meet in real life

>>40848351
Would eating a hunted bird be ethical for you? Those birds have normal non-industrial lives and are hunted to prevent overpopulation (that means they would otherwise die a slow and painful starvation death). For example hazel hens are like chicken, just smaller.

>>40848379
>this post
fuck m8, made my day

keep up those gains you impressive tranny

>>40847800
Anyone?
I'm too fat and I'm too stupid to know.
I just got a healthy eating schedule.

>>40848438
It doesn't really matter unless you're at elite levels of training. Find what time works best for you. Empty stomach, full stomach, whatever.

Really, reading about it too much got the best of me and put me way behind in actually getting more fit. If you can only work out before your job, do that. If only after, do that. As long as you're getting out there and doing it.

i lost weight by going vegetarian

I enjoy eating too fucking much and when I would eat meat I would stuff my face with salami and other processed shit

I still stuff my face but now I do so after cooking some rice or vegetables that make me feel full after eating, helped a lot rather than snacking on crap

also stopped eating any sweets and soda drinks, although I need to get back to exercising regularly

basically, im trying to say, if youre like me and you like eating so much, maybe do what i did, maybe itll work for you, find recipes, for me the key was spicy indian food, i learned to cook some spicy lentil soups and stuff like that, i found food that I liked that didnt involve hot dogs or crap

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>>40847748
keto here

>>40848423

I meant Mussels.

>>40848461
Okay, thank you.

>>40843311
Not this time sorry.

>>40848467
My arteries narrowed from just looking at that.

>>40848462

if you keep off the sweets and sugar water, get back to exercising regularly, you can eat all the salami you want man i believe in you

I had 5 of those precooked pastry things like sausage roll burger and meat pie from the shop on Friday with veg and a can of beans. Must have been over 3k calories. Skipped Saturday's dinner because of it. I can never decide what to have for a cheat meal and anything under 2.5k calories doesn't seem very cheaty to me yet people seem to think eating 600 cals worth of pizza = cheat meal.

>>40848462
Do vegetarians still consume dairy?

I bought the wrong cheese

it's only 16cal difference, and it tastes much nicer, but still

Unsweetened tea has no business being as good as it is. It's just bitter water ffs, and yet I'm on my 4th cup already.

>>40848050
I got the salad. It contained lettuce, tomato, onion, black olives, banana pepper rings, and about 1/4 of a grilled chicken breast, and a sprinkle of mozzarella. Chicken didn't see greasy but I imagine they used a little olive oil. I didn't use any dressing because I like veggies. It came with some fries on it, but I took them off. My only slip up is the chunk of fresh baked bread they serve with it.

It had been about 23 hours since I had eaten, but I have GERD, which is when the stomach produces too much acid even when there's nothing in there to digest. It makes me sick as fuck. It's a result of my years of binge eating. I'm hoping it goes away as my healthy lifestyle progresses.

>>40848534
Sounds like a really good compromise, good job staying away from the McDonalds! GERD sounds rough, hope it goes away for you in time as well.

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>>40848512
some do , lacto ovo veggers

>>40848427
No. I'd rather just leave the birds alone.

>hype myself up to lose weight
>make regiment and diet
>lose about 20lbs
>slowly lose all of the drive I had given myself
>start to not care again
>gain 30lbs
>feel guilty
>hype self to lose weight
Rinse and repeat

How do I stop this cycle /fit/? I always lose the drive after long enough

>>40848613
you're pushing too hard

it shouldn't be an active effort to lose weight
it should just happen as time passes, without you even noticing it

>>40848567
Thanks anon. We might just make it.

>>40848512
yes, I eat eggs and dairy, I cant imagine living without these foods

theres all sorts of people out there, some ask vegetarians if they eat fish, which is super weird to me, others claim vegetarians are what I call vegan aka dont eat anything from animals, not even milk or honey

>>40848502
eating meat always had me doing mental gymnastics to excuse myself from the guilt i was feeling when i thought about it, and now I'm just free from that shit and honestly it's the best decision i ever made health-wise, it helped me with my high blood pressure as well as my weight

>>40848613

how long did it take you to lose the 20, and how did you do it? whats your height, weight, goal weight?

>>40848691
Usually takes me a little under 2 months to lose it. My height is 6' even, 390 pounds, want to get to under 300 first, then see how my body is shaped

>>40848179
Bless you for your work

>>40848764
it'll be the same shape, just smaller

the real changes come when you're in teen figures of bf%
that's when you can start to see your real body underneath

will losing weight get rid of the dark crease under my tits

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>>40849002
wot , maybe . and if not at least you wont be fat.

>>40848687
What does your diet look like on a day?

>drinking apple pie flavoured tea
not sure what to make of this lads. delicious, 0 cals, but worried about a return of a sweet tooth

Tell me /fit/, how bad will the loose skin be going from 330 to 230?

>>40849303
No way to know. Your height and genetics need to be known

>>40849303

If you get to 230 you are going to think it's not enough.

loose skin is better than being that fat though

>>40849428
What's a good weight for a 6'5" guy to shoot for? I decided on 230lbs for no particular reason.

Hi /fit/. 5'9", 250lbs, gril. Trying to get down to 190 or so, started using MFP and actually going to the gym about a month ago and doing good so far.

MFP has me eating 1870 cal a day. Is that few enough to notice a change? I'd rather make subtle and realistic lifestyle changes then try to make huge unrealistic cuts then binge and yo-yo. But the fact that I'm mostly eating the same stuff as before, just less of it with fewer snacks, is getting to me. Is that really all there is?

The TDEE calculator in the sticky says my TDEE is 2361 cal (when I put "little to no exercise" - "light exercise" is probably closer to what I actually do, but that puts me at 2700 which seems too good to be true). But some posts say not to listen to that.

>>40849002
https://www.google.com/search?q=dark+crease+under+my+tits&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

>>40849455
leave it at no exercise and count ever single calorie

>>40849440
probably like 200. Just keep going until you feel like you look good man.

>>40849455
see
>>40849428
google some other ones just to be sure. Use sedentary just to be on the safe side. -500 is a pound a week which is pretty gradual. If you get used to that you can up it to like -800

>>40849440

I'm 6'9 and am shooting for 250.

>>40848236
Because we fight the same demons anon

how do i stop eating cheese? it just tastes so good with eggs

>>40848373
Alcohol slows down your metabolism anon

>>40849583
you don't put it in your mouth for one

>>40848438
If you eat, allow 1-1.5 hours before working out. Don't allow yourself to get sick from overeating then working out. Plan your workout, if you don't have time to eat and wait, just go workout instead. Hitting the gym at any time is better than not.

>>40849455
I'd say the range 2250±250kcal is ~90% likely to contain your TDEE. So, 1800kcal is a pretty good first guess for a caloric deficit. Eat at that level for three weeks while measuring your weight every day right after waking up and taking a piss. I'd expect there to be lots of weight lost due to reduced poop and other water weight lost in the first week. So ignore the first week. Compare the weekly averages of the next two weeks to determine whether you've lost weight. If there's a difference of 2 or more lbs, you can consider this to be strong enough evidence of losing weight. If it's 1lbs, you're probably losing weight but confirm it by continuing with the same calories for one more week. If it's ½lbs or less, lower calories by 200 and continue for one week to see if that shows the the desired results. Repeat as needed to reach a rate of weight loss that feels acceptable and tolerable to you.

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>>40849583
come to the keto side anon , you know its your destiny . muhahahahhahahahahha

>>40849583
>eggs
>cheese
Yo dawg we heard you like heart disease, so we put some saturated fats on your cholesterol so you can build atheromas while you build arterial lesions.

People talk about "starvation mode" but has anyone here actually starved themselves over a long period of time? I'm talking maybe below 500 calories a day.

>>40849455
Over estimate what you eat and underestimate what you burn. This allows for any error you get inputting. That way even if I was in the red I'd still lose decent weight.
> it's all mindgames

>>40849655
unless you are over 500 lbs don't do that

>>40849455
>I'm mostly eating the same stuff as before

You are on the road to yo-yo dieting then. You need to make lifestyle changes people! You're going to fall back on overeating if you don't.

Stop stuffing your face with the same crap. Start eating healthier. Beans, lentils, vegetables, whole grains, fruits.

Follow the Harvard Healthy Eating Plate.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-eating-plate/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOyebcrVWb4

Rode my bike 5.5 miles and then 4.5 miles an hour later. Ate 2100 calories including about 70 grams of fiber and a metric fuck ton of protein.

Gonna do some laundry and sleep 8 hours, and go back to the gym.

265 lbs down from 285.

>>40849583
Find a nice salt to season eggs.

I used smoked sea salt with garlic and chilli. It's amazing. The owners actually made it for their vegetarian friends because it tastes like meat.

>>40849681
>70 grams of fiber
Shits of the Gods.

>>40849662
I try to be as accurate as possible on what I eat and underestimate what I burn. That way I can just adjust my TDEE properly and won't have to account for the fact I've been fudging all the numbers constantly.

If you aren't sure how many calories are in something, overestimate.

>>40849691
is that how you achieve brap mode?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0AEarudEdI

>>40849505
>>40849534
>>40849622
>>40849662
>>40849679

Thank you all for replying, that all makes sense

>>40849679
I probably should have mentioned that I have been a vegetarian for a few years, and ate at least one meal a day of whole plant foods anyways. I do have one hell of a sweet tooth, which is most of what I've been cutting out.

>>40849583
Don't stock your house with foods you're actively trying to stop eating is a pretty good start.

>>40849655
Check out the fasting subreddit. It can be done, but for long fasts you need to take some precautions.

Also, don't listen to >>40849667 , as they've probably never researched it. Take a lesson from them and don't ever tell anyone that you're fasting because the usual response is freaking out.

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when i stir fry spinach the spinach shrinks for some reason. how do i get it to stop doing this?

>>40849768
eat it raw

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>>40849764
>check out the ____ subreddit!

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>>40849691

I eat a lot of fiber all the time so it's really not a big deal for me.

The original Fiber One cereal is the shit. I eat 2 cups of it which is only 240 calories.

I just wish it didn't have sucralose in it.

>>40849876
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>>40849850
I eat like a cup and a half of this mixed with a pound of cottage cheese for dinner like at least twice a week

>>40849655
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/

Guy fasted for over a year and lost 125kg in total at a rate of about 1kg every 3 days. It wasn't complete starvation as he received a tiny amount of protein in addition to micronutrient supplementation. If you intend to fast or even lower your calories to very low levels for long periods of time, you have to take micronutrient supplements or you'll get very sick from deficiencies. A small amount of protein is seems to be absolutely necessary also.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starvation_response#Timeline

>>40849893

that sounds like a plan.

>>40847109
>Is it just human nature to try to bring people to your level?

Sadly yes. If you're doing better than people, they fucking hate you for it and want you to fail. If you're not doing as well as them, then they'll look down on you as being scum.

In short. Most people are complete arseholes. It's nearly impossible to completely stop caring what they think, but you can train yourself to mostly not give a shit about their pigeonshit opinions with time. Just remind yourself than anybody trying to pull you down for their own gratification is basically weak and incapable of feeling good about themselves without their "hit". Sure, you're basically looking down on them to stop yourself from caring about them looking down on you in the first place, but it's not a bad way to manage it I've found.

>>40847433
Well done matey, you should feel good about yourself, you've earned it.

>>40848379
Haha fairplay and decent arms mate.

6ft, 260lbs

i posted here last week about running as a guy with fucked up knees, tried it for 1 week and stopped because my joints started hurting, i said to myself i'd stop the second i'd feel anything other than muscular pain

I'm my current situation it's not possible to get an elliptical or a bike, i have a home gym which consist of a squat rack, a bench, 2 db's, a bar, and 4 pl8s. but i'm planning to get a bike within the next month (poor student, hopefully will get a job next week and start saving) no gyms near my house and even then i wouldn't pay 50 bucks a month just for cardio equipment.

is brisk walking (or even just walking) injury proof? heck i'd walk for 2 hours just for those mental gains.

>>40849303
Dude my end goal is 150 I'm 310 now. Dink water, and most insurance companies now will cover some of the cost because it can be unhealthy to carry all that skin. Work on loosing the weight.

>>40850024
if your goal is weight loss walking is enough alone.

Not enough for an actual cardio workout though.

sounds like you need swimming