/fat/ - Weight Loss General

>>40814475
i have a problem, /fat/. i've completely lost my appetite. i dont mean it in a "i cant eat 15 hamburgers like i used to", but more like "i struggle to get 1500 calories of junk food in my stomach over an 18 hour period". srs, i get hungry once a day but a single sandwich and i'm stuffed to the gills. some days i can only get in 1000-1200, but my TDEE is ~2900 with a sedentary lifestyle and i do 2-5 hours of cardio a week and do a modified version of starting strength on top of it. i have yet to feel any side effects, other than being a bit more sore after lifting or an extra hard cardio session, but i'm not stupid and its only a matter of time before my body starts to really understand i'm consistently undereating by a significant margin. even though i fucking hated it at first, i dont want to stop doing cardio or lifting but i also don't want to lose every bit of muscle and sanity that i have left while also fucking up my internal organs.
>SW: ~198lbs @ 25-26%
>CW: 180 @ 18-19%
time frame: ~3 months
i'm hoping to be near 10% by the time i hit 160lbs, but in order to do that i'll have to maintain some level of muscle and, by extension, a moderately healthy and consistent level of caloric intake
>tl;dr fatty can no longer eat. needs advice on how to not ruin health and organs

>>40814493
Have you recently had some drama in your life? Depression and emotional stress makes me physically unable to eat without vomiting. Why are you complaining though? Great way to cut down, just drink protein shakes or whatever high cal-protein heavy shit you can shove down

>>40814517
i have generalized depression and anxiety, but nothing out of the normal has happened recently. and having a reduced appetite isnt a problem, but being unable to eat to the point where you're eating like an anorexic seems like it would be a problem for someone trying to improve their health

I'm about to have fast food for the first time in the month.

McChicken no mayo. Because my house is out of chicken and I can't go all day eating nothing but eggs and potatos.

>>40814652
>eating potatos at all
>not just eggs, all day every day
never gonna make it

>>40814667
>already lost 20 pounds
>all I'm doing is cal in cal out and watching my macros

I'll be fine, bitch.

>>40814652
sounds like a weak person making excuses. Sad!

Tried doing Alternate Day Fasting a la Krista Varady and felt naseous as fuck on fast days for a week. Anyone else have similar experiences?

I'm just sticking to daily caloric restriction from now on

>>40814475
>Cut for the Führer edition
thanks for losing my motivation biggot op. Now I am going to eat the cake in the fridge.

>>40814695
hi nick

i am the mentally strongest here

challenge me

What happens when you reach your goal weight? I can't possibly keep logging everything I eat in mfp forever

>>40814763
thats why you want to get validation from a retarded online forum that is full of autistic manchildren?

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>>40814763
Ok. You asked for it.

>>40814555
Maybe you should try not being a little bitch. Nice trips though.

1) You won't harm your organs unless you eat <600 kcal per day or so
2) You don't have any significant muscle gains to lose, keeping your strength and stamina is what you should be concerned about. Get to 10% and then start worrying about getting >muh gains back.

>Mom asks me if I want a shamrock shake to go with my mcchicken
>Say no obviously, but put it into MFP to humor the idea
>73 grams of sugar

Yeah, how about never again. It's like you're drinking a glass of toothpaste with 73 grams of sugar poured into it.

>>40814763
Post a pic of ur dick in a mousetrap

>>40814775
Why not?

Anyhow, the ultimate goal should be to learn and adopt a healthy lifestyle. After a while it will become second nature and you shouldn't need MFP to realize how much you should be eating.

>>40814785
im not gonna flaunt my superiority in public like some douchebag, obviously

>>40814846
The second I stop autistically measuring and recording everything I eat I start to gain again. I'm terrible at intuitive eating, but I don't want to live in fear of food or yo-yo diet for the rest of my life

boggles my mind how I used to just mindlessly eat
I'd buy a 4 pack of double chocolate muffins and eat them all in the same night
usually after a whole pizza
insane

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>>40814940
i would sometimes get one of these and eat the whole fucking thing

old me makes me sick

>>40814904
Don't you learn to eyeball how many calories your meal contains after a while? As long as you eat the same few meals over and over and monitor your weight like once a month you'll be fine.

Alternatively, you could try fasting for a couple of days each week

>>40814953
>>40814940
I worked at a bakery for a year and would literally take home 10kg of pies, donuts, scones, sugar buns, sandwiches, everything that was left at the end of the day. And eat everything.
My lunch break food was somehow even worse

>>40814974
oh yeah, I used to work in a food court and we got free meals
burger king or kfc, anything 'within reason', 5 times a week
sometimes I'd get some to take home too
it was free, I couldn't turn it down
lesson learned though

6'4" finally below 230lbs. Was at 275 back in October. I'm hoping I'll be at 200lbs by July or August.

>was 103kg when i started exercicing
>stopped after too weeks because too lazy
>left gym with 96kg
>i'm still the same weight since then

should i go back and try again /fat/?

>>40815030
losing weight is 90% diet
but giving your metabolism a boost certainly can't hurt

>>40814953

How did you stop?
I just ate 7 clif bars and a bag of roasted chick peas after a 90 minute walk/run. Can't stop thinking about what I'm gonna shove into my face before bed and already thinking about cinnamon raisin bagels for tomorrows breakfast.

I want off this ride.

Ate breakfast and much clean, only at 1044 calories. Will it be bad for cutting if I eat a burger and fries or a small pizza because I can't make it home for dinner?

TDEE is 3200 cal

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Help me /fit/, my Mom just brought home a medium Dr. Pepper from McDonalds what do I do

>>40815094
Ask her to drink it so you don't

>>40815107
SHE JUST HAD MAJOR DENTAL WORK SHE CAN'T DRINK POP FOR A WEEK

MY DAD DOESN'T DRINK ANYTHING THAT'S NOT DIET COKE

IT'S JUST STARING AT ME, /FIT/ HOW DO I KILL IT

>>40814695
I still love you Jeffrey

i'm at around 30% body fat, will i have loose skin if i try to lose weight? i don't want to look like a fucking walking ballsack.

>>40815094
Drink it then fill up the cup with water and slam that shit for punishment.

>>40815122
Not if you loose it slowly.

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sure feels and looks higher than 21%

>>40815090
i just really wanted it man, woke up one day and was done fuckin around

>>40815119
DUMP IT

>>40815134
I thought that was a meme? But if it's true if I lose a pound of week will I be safe?

>>40815141
What do you expect it would look like at 21%?

im hungry and tired and want to cry all the time

>>40815119
Dump it down the drain man, the longer you wait the worse it's going to get

>>40815175
even if you have saggy skin it can still heal over the next few years, the body can do some magic shit

>>40814475
Long time fatty, long time poster

Your op is quite edgy mein negger

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Tfw 52% body fat

>>40815093
Skip the fries at least but honestly I'm cringing at the thought of all those empty calories

>>40815119
You don't need to "kill" it. Think of resisting it as a test to your will power

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>>40815181
better than this

those are my god-honest measurements, I didn't even lie about height like I usually do

>if you fill your stomach with water you won't feel empty after meanls and will eat less
can this shit actually work or am i just memeing myself?

>>40815211
Yea I don't want to eat dirty I've been doing really good eating clean but I forgot my cooler with dinner at home. Only other option close to here is subway

Is it OK to eat really big but low calorie meals? For example, I just ate dinner; chicken breast (boneless skinless of course) and an entire bag of brussel sprouts. I'm fuckin stuffed and according to MFP it was only 368 calories.

>>40815210
it's quite a feat to become more fat than man

>>40815232

It's absolute bullshit. You'll just be starving and bloated.

>>40815230
did you eat your chest hair or what?

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>tfw 30% bf

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>>40815230
It seems like you have a somewhat abnormal distribution of fat but still that looks about right

gif related is another guy about the same bf%

>>40815150
Not that guy but you don't still have the cravings though? I want it just as bad as you man and I stay on my diet but I still think about binging and eating 25 packs of Welchs fruit snacks in one sitting. It's worse when I'm near my family, which of course is stress related. But still.

>>40815256
Top kek

>>40815232
Hunger and thirst are triggered by different mechanisms. That being said, many people mistake thirst for hunger when slightly dehydrated. Try drinking the water first. See if it helps.

>>40815194
Interesting, and relatable, please elaborate.

>>40815256
Part native american, I've never grown any

I'm way down from my starting weight but I just want this wild ride to be over

>>40815270
The tits are a major source of insecurity for me

>>40815204
I know I was a lil turned off by the OP as this isn't /pol/

>>40815093
>TDEE is 3200cal
No it isn't. Stop putting your exercise levels at anything but sedentary

>>40815194
Go to sleep

>>40815252
It's not bullshit if he drinks lots of water before and during meals, he will fill up way faster once some real food is in his stomach and it's a great way to eat less

>>40815234
Subway is still better at least you pretend you're eating clean

>>40815204
>>40815294
>the sight of a bernd in the ss actually discomforts you
I don't post on /pol/ but come on guys, just because our bellies are soft doesn't mean your skin needs to be too

>215 pounds
>a single meal of 1200~ a day, maybe a couple of snacks for 200
>75-90 min of cardio 4x a week

How long until I wish to kill myself

>>40815302
I did put my activity level as sedentary on multiple apps and it says I need to eat 3200 to lose weight.

>>40815272
Not the guy you were talking to, but I just got on the healthy eating ride about 2 weeks ago. I gave up soda last time I tried back in August, that was the hardest part for me, took months to get over the cravings for that. As for my current situation, I was literally eating nothing but pizza, mcdonald's, and baked goods. Once I started eating right, I haven't touched any of it, not even a little. For me the only way to get over cravings is cold turkey. The only thing that makes me want to go back to a shit diet is the dish washing after I eat, that shit sucks man.

I live alone though, so I don't have anybody tempting me with shit, besides friends trying to get me to go to the chinese buffet. Just think about how much you don't want to be fat anymore anon. It should keep you going strong.

>>40815302
>No it isn't. Stop putting your exercise levels at anything but sedentary

We aren't all sedentary manlets like yourself.

>>40814763
You don't have a gf.

>>40815204
>>40815294
Do you need lotion for your vagina?

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>>40815336
DYEL?

I went from 57-58 to 55 kg, I'm pretty satisfied

>>40815302
My TDEE, according to MFP is 2960 at sedentary level, so it's believable, anon is just really fat.

>>40815272
Oh man. These are my weakness too. I love Welch Fruit Snacks. But you have an addiction and need to recognize it. No different than an addict with a needle.

>>40815281
Trust me I know it sucks man but they'll go away if you get down to at most 12%

>>40815346
No joke I feel like living alone is an important factor in losing weight.

>>40815272
i feel the craving sometimes, but i quench it fast, i crave my next healthy meal instead, i crave some celery or spinach now

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has anyone else gotten depressed or bitter after losing weight?

i've lost 108 pounds in the last year but i'm even more depressed and angry than i was at my highest point. i don't know why but i think it's partly because my days have become so tedious and repetitive.

>>40815368

6', did SS and Texas for a while, but moved to another city and fell in a rut. Felt that I'd rather lose 60lbs or so quickly and then get back mass slowly.

>>40815379
I know it's an addiction and I'm eating clean and exercising but I still W A N T to binge. How do I cope with that?

>>40815346
I consider myself to be really lucky because I've always had a healthy diet, never liked soda and alcohol, don't like sauces, never ate premade food at home, loved vegetables since I was a kid...
So I've only had to do minor changes, like using less olive oil, eating less bread...

>>40815239
IIFYM
I love Brussels sprouts

>>40814475
Just got over norovirus (24 hour vomits and shits)
Lost 7lbs alone in these two days I've been sick

Is norovirus the key to cutting?

>>40815394
I disagree living with my college roommate makes me want to not binge because I want her to THINK that I'm a well adjusted human being.

Living with my parents/alone there's no consequence for over eating

>>40814493
Welcome to normie-hood

>>40815365
epic my brother *brohoof*

>>40815446
Yes. It also destroyed my addiction to Musli bars when I got it because puking up oats isn't fun.

A lot of junk food cravings is the marketing. If you can avoid some of that it will get easier.

>>40815466
Fuck me dude
The night I came down with it I ate a plate.of.mashed potatoes, peas, and corn

Corn coming out of both ends explosively is horrible
Never again

I quit soda cold turkey about 5 years ago. I was a pretty big drinker, sometimes above 2l a day.

I was wondering, did anyone ese had nightmares when quitting? During the first 2 months after quitting I remember having nightmares were I drank soda and I woke up terrified and drenched in sweat. I had about 6 or 7 before they went away.

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Can someone help me understand if my jawline is shit or not? This is me from like 2011 back in high school (like 17, ignore the thug look I sucked at photos). Right now I'm overweight (6'2 and 220 lbs) but I've been losing weight, used to be 240 a month ago and was just wondering what I'm looking forward too.

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>>40815502
This is how I looked 2 years ago for those interested

So about fat facial hair.

When you lose weight, does your neckbeard migrate from your neck to your chin?

>>40815497
I had nightmares when I stopped smoking weed.

Now I have dreams that I'm smoking weed.

>>40815502
Bruh your jawline is fine

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>tfw playing basketball with my buddy last week
>my buddys fratbro says hi, nice guy, havent seen him in months
>buddy tells me that his friend was asking him wtf happened to me, and that I looked really good
d-does that count as a mire?

>>40815502
>>40815510
you look average to me desu. you'd probably be attractive at low bf% since your face looked a bit chubby there

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>>40815359
Delete this.

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>used to have a sugar addiction worse than a herion addict
>tfw I supplanted it with an addiction to smoked meats
I'm gonna make it

>>40815536
If your neck is so fat that it's enveloped your chin and your chin-neck has a beard, then, yes, that's kind of what would happen. Otherwise, no, your follicles aren't gonna migrate anywhere. New beard hairs appear for men for many years, up to their fifties for some, so you may eventually grow a beard on your cheeks and chin.

>>40815569

>buddy tells me that his friend was asking him wtf happened to me, and that I looked really good
>Said by fratbro

Looks out, he wants to put a drinking horn up your ass. Be careful.

>>40815430
Only reason your thinking about it is because your mind isn't engaged. Find something to do; start a new TV series or play a game/sport for a while.

>tfw Church's Chicken sweet and spicy

aw yiss
what you eating fatties

you are all a bunch of fat faggots. go on tumblr and look at Thinspo. you'll find the inspiration.

>>40815581
>smoked meats
Smoking meats releases carcinogenic compounds that cause cancer in humans.

Try some grilled vegetables instead.

>>40815755
this place is inspiration and so is fph

>>40815755
>Thinspo
>anorexic women of tumblr

no thanks

>>40815755
>come to improve FITness
>lmao just leave fatty lol
guaranteed dyel shitposter

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my mom just bought 50 dollars worth of absolute junkfood, the good shit too. it almost pained me to refuse to eat it, instead i had like 12 peanuts and called it a night. im happy with myself but also sad

I just hit a new max rep of 10 on my chin up bar.

Followed up with 5 rep set of pull ups, and another 5 rep set of chins.

Feels good, feeling weightless, and noticing weight loss

>6 months and clothes feel better, but don't look too much different.

>>40815424
nothing worse than normal
I've made a lot of progress but I still look like shit, so there's ways to go yet

I don't want to trick myself into thinking that life will magically get better once I'm in shape
that will cause all sorts of problems

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Hey /fit/. Fatty here.

I'm 5'10", 170lbs. I started from 225 back in January 2016. Mostly lost weight due to diet and being slightly more active.

Now I'm about to start lifting and want to know; how many months of lifting will it take for me to see good progress, and do I have any potential? I want to look good in clothes at the least.

>>40815901
What pants size are you? I went from 225 to 170 and I was like 5'7 and don't remember being that big.

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>>40815921
I usually wear a 32/34x32 in normal pants. And idk why I'm big in comparison with other guys with my stats.

>>40815761
I've made 20lbs of beef jerky and I have sausages curing right now. I'll risk cancer.

>>40815815
Peanuts are really high in calories and fat. If you are trying to lose weight, they aren't really a good choice. But good on you for not eating the really, really bad stuff.

>>40815815
You're awesome for not eating it.

>>40815901
exact stats and spot(looking to start lifting). any advice would be helpful

>>40815901
>>40815973
you look like me and I'm 6'3 220

just got down to a 34/36 waist

>>40815978
If it's an early grave you're after, you should take up smoking too.

>>40815973
Huh, I think you should lose a bit more. You have a lot more belly fat than I did, but your waist is smaller (I was a size 33 at that point)

>>40815994
Weird.

>>40816007
Well, I was going to lose what's left through lifting.

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>>40815982
I'm trying to only eat maybe 15 at most, each day. i only eat about 1,500 calories a day, (i work off about a 100 calories of that) so i know not to eat many peanuts, lol. even thinking about potentially fucking my diet up at this point is suicide wrenching lol

>>40815991
thank you! you're a very nice person :)

Every time I lose weight it's the same thing.

I always start by eating nothing but cheerios, soup/chicken, and whatever I want for dinner.

then I realize it's all about cal in/out and macros.

Then I lose 40 pounds.

Then a few months later I have major surgery, spend two+ weeks in the hospital, and go back to my old habits and gain it back.

It's happened like twice already.

Is there something wrong if I do my 30 min of cardio at 6 am in the morning and lifting like at 12 pm? I just have a really shitty schedule

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>>40816179
I was in hospital recently
the nurses are a pain, always trying to get you to eat a mountain of their greasy food
I did alright for the most part, soup and no bread rolls.
I did slip up once and asked for an apple pie and custard because I was in a foul mood. I don't think it caused too much damage.
Was glad to be back home though, where I can control things.

>>40816220
They always try to get you to drink pop immediately after surgery too. My mouth is dry as fuck from the anesthetics, bitch. Give me water.

>>40816249
is it the propofol that dries you out?
I was nil by mouth all day and my surgery got pushed back because of an emergency
and when I finally got into theatre, and saw the surgical team in their gettup, I had a little touch of the nerves and started breathing really hard
I think the anesthetist knew because she gave me something to 'calm me down' whilst they where still prepping, and made the awkward small talk, bless her.

>>40815230
Holy shit anon i carry my fat a lot like you do. Don't worry you aren't the only one. Try and build muscle under it it'll help. What weight did you start at?

What's our official position on the "Are eggs good for you?" question?
>>40816179
Why do you keep having major surgeries Anon?

I want to punch my mother in law. My wife and I are both fat fucks, but we're trying to do better, cutting calories, etc. Bitch tries to make us eat two dinners and buys a fucking cheesecake with 20 servings of 230 calories each and tries to get us to eat it. Not going to, but fuck it's annoying.

>>40816301
Everything in moderation. Your diet should be varied to be healthy.

>>40816301
Hydrocephalus. Lots of people who have it have no issues at all for their entire life, but I guess I'm just a bad egg and I've had 30+ surgeries because of it. Not the worst egg though because I've heard of people who have had 300 surgeries because of it.

It's also partially the reason why I'm fat. I had a stroke during surgery when I was three so my left leg is shorter than my right and I can't walk on it very well because of this. Coupled with a shitty diet, I got fat. Then I lost weight by watching what I eat, and then I just keep on having surgeries and eat like shit during recovery to keep me from being upset.

>>40816249
is there a reason they gave you soda pop?

>>40816220
>Bangers and mash
As soon as I saw that I knew it was a British hospital.. before I realised the plate has NHS branded on it kek

>>40814493
>Take a good multivitamin. I use rainbow light.
>if you don't eat cold water fish, take fish oil. I take triple strength nuturegold.
>hit your protein minimums no matter what. Remember it is based in lean body mass - not the extra fat.
>fiber. Tasteless clear fiber is not gritty - you won't hate it. Buy the cheapest, I get mine from Walgreens.
>food track.
If you are doing these things - and lifting weights - you are safe. Feel secure in what you are doing. As long as you are still above 20% body fat - you can handle an insane deficit. I am literally you right now. I know what you are talking about. The reason you feel okay on a deficit is because you are okay. Your body has fat fuel to burn right now.

Now try not to go full retard. Listen to your body. If your blood sugar is low you will feel dizzy when you stand up fast. Stay hydrated.

Last thought - pork rinds. Experiment with new things until you find something tasty enough to help you stay above 1500. Don't turn to suger! Fat is better to round out your count than empty carbs. Good luck.

I've been at or around 235 pounds for months now. I dropped from 300-270+ pounds last year and have been maintaining my current weight since december.

I have no fucking clue what to do to drop these extra ten pounds. Fuck being at 16-18% bodyfat. I want a fucking sixpack right now.

Just had to vent.
Anyway I'm going to try to eat at maintenance tonight and I might eat breakfast tomorrow. Maybe I'll see a woosh if I eat at maintenance for the next few days.

>>40814763
Not surprising someone on this board takes pride in being mentally challenged

>>40816217
Thats exactly the right schedule.

Rats that were given extended access to junk food developed such highly compulsive eating behavior that even giving them an electric shock when they went for the junk food was not enough to deter them from their habit.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2947358/

>>40817102
>hit your protein minimums

What are the protein minimums for a fat person that doesnt lift that heavy though?

1g/KG bodyweight?

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>>40814742
>Führer never wanted you anyways

>>40814742

>

t. Karl Lipoknecht

>>40817338
For a fat person that doesn't lift, about 0.8-0.9 g per kg of ideal weight.

>>40817410

Oh I always thought it was per actual weight.

Makes more sense.

And if I lift a little? Like 3x/week GSLP?

I am 122 KG

>>40817427
If you lift, you want about 0.75 g per lb, so about 1.6 g per kg.

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Finnaly did a complete crunch for the first time in my life.

>>40817595
My goal is to do my first chin-up. I still have a long way to go.

>>40817639
Hey me too! I've never been able to do one my entire life. The hardest part for me is finding an exercise to pull those muscles or go find a jungle gym and just try to pull up, outside of my regular exercising.

>>40817639
>>40817686
We'll all make it Bros

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>>40815294
>>40815204
>>40814742
Soft faggots never going to make it.

Help pls. Using MyFitnessPal. Says my goal calories per day is 2500. I'll lose weight by eating 1500, right? I feel like I'm eating too much to be losing weight.

>>40817743
If 2500 is TDEE and you eat less than that you'll lose weight.

>>40817743
Use this calculator:
https://tdeecalculator.net/

>>40817779
K. I just feel like i'm doing it wrong. Thenk u, anon.

Remember that calories in, calories out isn't everything. Eating shitty, unfilling foods high in sugars, saturated fats, or refined grains are going to leave you hungry, fatigued, and sick.

Is there generally a sort of initial resistance when you start losing weight? I'm under my tdee, and I'm also doing 30 mins of cardio daily. But I've lost maybe half a lb in two weeks. I have been drinking a shitload of water though. This isn't the first time I've lost a bunch of weight, but it's been about two years since I ballooned up again and I can't remember how it went initially. I'm logging every little thing autistically in mfp as well, so there's no cheating going on.

>>40817783
Wait, so it says my maintenance is 3500. So if I eat 1500, I'll be fine?

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I eat like shit but at least I stayed within my calorie goal.

>>40817801
If you've started to drink a lot more water than before, your weight can actually go up a bit despite beginning to lose fat.

>>40817802
If you're getting enough nutrients you'll be fine.

But keep in mind, if you try and sustain a diet that you find frustrating and difficult, you're more likely to fall off the wagon and start gaining weight again.

Would be better to eat 2750 or 3000 and stick to it, rather than feel like you're going to die on the 3rd day of 1500. But if you feel good doing 1500, it's an option.

i do fine at work and eat reasonably and dont eat any snacks or anything but when i get home im fucking starving and have huge cravings for everything, what can i eat/drink/do to get past this stage, i live with roomates so i cant just not keep junkfood in the house.

>>40814679

Idk who you are but that was real sexy.

You really will make it!!!

>>40817802
>3500
Are you like 300 lbs?

Shoot for a 750-1000 daily caloric deficit (so 3500 - 1000 = 2500 calories a day). Any greater deficit and you're liable to feel fatigued or fall off the diet.

>>40817811
Alright, good to know anon. Doing cardio has me hungrier and thirstier than usual, and I'm obliging by drinking much more water than usual. Thank you breh

>>40817809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOyebcrVWb4

>>40817849
I'm 270

>>40817857
I will tomorrow. I bought frozen broccoli, peas, and carrots. I've also bought whole grain bread, brown rice, and eggs.

>>40817832
Eat food that you find satiating but is within your diet and dietary needs.

For example. Have you had a Panera Bread salad before? They come in a huge fucking bowl.

Ceaser Chicken (+ Extra Chicken) (- Croutons) and (light dressing) is like 370 calories (still only 450 if you go full dressing) and is extremely filling for the calories. You can easily make that shit at home with like a Costco rotisserie chicken and some spring mix or some shit for much less. And costco chicken is fucking delicious.

Also, if you come home really hungry, getting a satiating snack in during your work day or commute is not the enemy. It can help you from overeating and feeling anxiety come dinnertime!

>>40817832
Take out a can of black beans or chickpeas and let yourself eat as much of it as you can/want. Worst case scenario, you just ate a bunch of healthy food.

Carrots and celery are also good options. You can't really overeat either.

>>40817866
Try eating 2,000 calories a day. If you are losing too slow, eat less. Too fast, eat more. Aim for 2 lbs of weight loss a week.

>>40815239

you can eat as much as you want as long as it's within nutrition, macros and your stomach capacity.

However, I wouldn't suggest stretching your stomach out. lol. Unless you were really hungry.

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How do I stop being an irritable asshole when eating below TDEE? I'm doing alright with sticking to the diet, but I've noticed I'm a lot more pissed off and "hangry" than usual

>>40817872
Buy some sweet potatoes and oatmeal too. I'd personally ditch the eggs because they are high in cholesterol, saturated animal fats, and methionine.

>>40817896
Try and find if you could be eating a food that would satiate you more for the calories.

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>>40817872

>>40817880
>>40817885
problem is i legit can eat like 2 cans of beans and still want to eat after an hour or 2, but when im not at home im completely fine i dont get hunger pangs or anything i dont know if its a mental thing or what

>>40817897
I've read multiple studies on eggs recently and apparently they're good for you. They don't increase your LDL cholesterol, increase HDL cholesterol, and decrease triglycerides.

>>40817905
>Its, lyke, so gross and stuff!
get the fuck out, you faggot.

>>40817912
>eat like 2 cans of beans
Why are you even eating cans of beans

>>40817922
its cheap and filling

>>40817897

Not that anon, but I appreciate you a lot.

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>>40817927
You eat two of them and then want to eat after a fucking hour, and you're telling me it's filling?

>>40817912

could be mental bbz. my suggestion is drink more water. (I drink 250ml when i think im hungry then wait until my stomachs rumbling and not just pangs) can we see your diet? are you logging?

>>40817937
i cant explain this shit man i can go an entire day at work without feeling a thing and doing fine and i get home and after 15 minutes i get this craving that i could eat fucking everything

im thinking it might be a chemical thing and like if i eat something high in whatever it would settle me down or eat some high sugar fruits maybe?

>>40817960
I'm thinking you need a snack to balance out your day and prevent you from feeling like you're exploding with hunger at night >>40817880

>>40817960

>go an entire day at work without

there's your fuckup.

>>40817913
Those studies are of sick population with already elevated LDL cholesterol. If you have super high LDL and you replace some of your diet with eggs, it's not going to help you.

Replacing eggs with oatmeal lowers cholesterol.

>>40817948
i used to log but i got lazy and i try to keep meals to 3 500 cal increments with a snack maybe, and no im not just guessing i do check the numbers. Its just that ive chubbed up over the winter and now i have this weird fucking hunger craving period

i guess i will try chugging water untill it maybe goes away

Is ranch ok to use with a salad? Im not fat but I like snacking on veggies becuase of vitamins and shit. If ranch is bad whats a good salad dressing to dip veggies in?

>>40817983
>>40817970
Link me the can of beans you eat, btw

>>40817974
im not starving myself at work but i can have a coffee and like an oatmeal cookie or something as a snack and not feel any cravings

>>40817990
Look at the calories and how much of it you want to use.

Does it fit in your diet?

>>40817993
>cookie

>>40817991
romano or red kidney, i stick to romano because its slightly less calories, the reds are a little over 500 and the romano are 400

i dont eat them every day, but i have a few meals i try to eat that are around 500 cals

>>40818005
oatmeal cookie because its filling and its 200 cals

>>40818015
Unlikely it's a very filling 200 calories, really. Where do you get this cookie from?

>>40818005
What about the soybean oil, is that a meme scare or is it bad.

>>40818021
coffee shop i get my coffee, its just a regular coffee 1 milk no sugar

what should i be getting instead?

>>40815134
I lose like a pound a day to two days tops. I've lost 15 pounds already but no change in appearance. Will I really not lose shit in appearance if I go ham? I was 295, now I'm 280. 6'6" so it's not as bad. Will the fat only stay around as flab if I'm like 400+?

>>40818040
A bowl of oatmeal. It's delicious, nutritious, lower your cholesterol, protects you from heart disease, and protects you from various cancers.

>>40818040
So you're 100% sure that coffee shop is making 200 calorie cookies, right? Because a lot of the nice soft oatmeal cookies tend to be above 350. Like the Jimmy Johns one is 365 and that's fucking delicious (but nearly the same calories as an entire huge panera salad here >>40817880 )

But instead of a cookie you could eat somethign like an Apple. Apples are reasonably satiating for the calories, including due to the fact that they take a little while to eat. And increasing time spent eating without effecting calories can really improve your mental outlook on what you've eaten. If often 'feels' like it was more food if it took you longer to eat.

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What's everyone's opinion on the Mediterranean diet? Is it as good as people say? I think I might start to move in that direction.

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>>40814475
tfw 275 at 5'10"
this is the worst I've ever been and I've gotten to 10 pounds within my goal weight like 3 times, cutting is pain and those last ten pounds are the hardest ordeal in my life
I quit my job at generic local pizza place, wish me luck /fit/

>>40818082
It's lifesaving compared to the standard American diet. But the real Mediterranean diet would be no poultry, eggs, or milk and have fish only a few times a month. It would also be much healthier than the one in your picture.

>>40818082
Why are you interested in this diet?

>>40817983

yeah log if you start having issues, I'd say hunger pangs are and issue. I'm also concerned about the sodium you may be intaking from the canned beans

>>40818140
Cheap. I don't make much money so I can't buy a lot of meat.

>>40818203
At the end of the day, you're just going to need to explore what works for you, I would look for specific foods that you do well with, and will help you achieve your goals, rather than entire food pyramids.

>>40818152
its not an everyday thing, i have a few meal options of around 500 cals each i try to eat, like a bowl of oatmeal with some natty peanut butter or a baked potato with sour cream and some veggies, a can of beans with some pickles on the side, etc, i vary things up, i normally do eat somewhat healthy but its just to give you an idea that this thing is so overwhelming that i figure it has to be some chemical thing or something, like i can tolerate hunger pangs just fine, this thing is almost a compulsion, i dont know maybe i should just take a nap after i get home

>>40818203

This is basically my diet only I dont eat breads (usually) but I recently added more poultry because I got a pay raise and I lost 70 some odd lbs so far.

honestly it's the best "diet" that's worked for me.

>>40818232

if I personally dont get enough sleep and at least 100g carbs, 100g protein and 60-70g sugar im basically a hungry sleepy unmotivated mess, so it could be chemical or it could be your macros.

what snacks do you guys eat that are cheap? I find nuts and sunflower seeds and things like that add up because you can just eat them endlessly

You guys have any experience with DNP?

>>40815430
Cheat days are GOAT desu, I lost 60lbs over 3 months cutting hard but eating absolutely anything and everything I wanted one day a week. Never had cravings throughout the week once I stuck with it, and always had that one day of yummy shit food to look forward to

>>40815510
Should lay off the weed to to get that dopey slant eyed look cleared up if you're worried about facial aesthetic

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Hello all. I love food, but I hate being fat. Everywhere on the internet, people hate on us, degrade us, it's just terrible. I made a safe discord just for fat people to feel welcome and loved. We also share our own recipes and cooking tips! Just the other day one the members tried my butter burger recipe and absolutely loved it! See you there <3

https://discord.gg/bp44v4s

>>40818423
>eating absolutely anything and everything I wanted one day a week

absolutely most retarded advice i've ever heard. I know im in /obese general/ but most people cut on -500 daily deficit whichs means 6 days = 3000kcal deficit. Now if you binge eat 1 day a week anything and everything you will easily go +1000kcal surplus.

This means your weekly total is only -2000kcal. You are essentially slowing your cut by 1/3 because of your GOAT cheat day.

Eat wiser ie. skip breakfast, fast longer and you can easily fit pizza, burger or nice little ice cream dessert every once in a while in to your diet without going above your TDEE

>>40818423
Fuck that.

I literally indulged in ice cream today, a small size ameretto at cold stone, and still pulled a 500 calorie deficit on the day, not including any calories I burned lifting.

Actual binging is a completely useless habit you need to kick. You can still eat bullshit, but don't binge.

>>40818470
This is why you're fat

>tfw stuck at 90.5 kg for the last 3 days

fuck I lost like 4 kg in 15 days now I'm stuck. Did my TDEE change? should I eat less?

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> He doesn't cut for Toshino Kyouko.

>>40818658
Probably water weight and shit.

I look at my log each day and know I've succeeded. I'll only bother to look at the scale when I feel my clothes are looser. I'm surprised how often many people try and look at the scale.

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Slowly but steadily I'm getting there
15days of rigoristic 1500kcal diet and weightlifting and went from 134 to 130,7
I'm weighing myself every day when I wake up and weight was decreasing every 2-3 days so don't give me the water weight shit xD (water weight is obvious on fatasses because I can see like 2kg diference throughout the day)

We'll all gonna make it
(1kg ahead of loser town calendar, probably because I exercise on top of it)

>>40818841

>weighing yourself every day

doesnt make sense at all and is an unhealthy, highly autistic behavior.

Weigh yourself every 2 weeks

>>40818658
>>40818841 here
I stalled at 138 and 135 for 2 weeks each time, but kept going (2100kcal back then) and one day it started to move again.
Just dont give up

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>>40818855
Yeah, if you weight yourself 5 times a week you get aspergers, 10 times a week is lethal dose
lmao

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>>40815243
Fucking kek

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>down too 240lbs from 247lbs after three weeks of mostly just not eating like a fat fuck and keeping my calories down to 1600 calories
>haven't had fast food since after having it on average twice a day almost every single day
>see this
My willpower is weak. F-fast food once a month is okay right? It's cool if I get one of these next month r-right? It just looks so good.

>>40818931
no it isn't you fat fuck

>>40818931
fast food is fine once a month, give it a few more weeks and you'll get into the routine of eating healthy. Your stomach has probably started shrinking already. Get aesthetic bro

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>>40818939

>>40818945
Yeah I'm finding myself way less hungry than I have been in the past. I had to keep myself from skipping dinner last night because I just wasn't hungry.

>>40818931
that looks disgusting, if you wanna cheat get something that fits your macros / calorie goal and is less disgusting. Cheat days that go over your calorie goal just slow down progress, going 1000 over ruins a whole week progress assuming you eat tdee -500.

>>40818945

stomachs cannot shrink.

sorry.

once they're stretched they're stretched.

they can "naturally" from from a small size to about football size, but anything larger than that is due to unhealthy eating or a genetic disorder.

this is why y'all are so hungry as you lose weight and why people over 300 tend to get gastric because their stomachs are stretched.

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if dubs you can eat a cookie

>>40818931

Macros on this arent even bad, go for it but just after a week of heavy lifting

>>40818986
rolling plz plz plz

>>40818986
>tfw I don't even like sweets
>just a fat fuck because I couldn't stop overesting and eating tons of greasy and fried food

>>40818959
>going 1000 over ruins a whole week progress assuming you eat tdee -500.

>me cant into math

>>40815463
>brohoof

KILL yourself

>>40818986
I don't have a cookie to eat
and I don't feel like driving to the shops to get a cookie I don't even want

>>40817905
What the fuck is this god I hate this website

>>40819002
keto sounds like your friend

>>40819171

>advocating meme diets that are bound to crash furiously

Never give advice again

>>40819171
I was actually planning on starting that in a couple weeks when I get paid again. I've already killed my grocery budget.

>>40818118
>the real Mediterranean diet would be no poultry, eggs, or milk and have fish only a few times a month
Says who

>>40819126
I think it's an egg coming out of a hen's ass.

>>40819205
Do they shit eggs?

>>40819213
Yes.

Wish I wasn't such an autist, I'd go swimming

>>40818260
Yeah, few years ago when I was half-assing it
what do you want to know?

>>40818855
>tfw I just step on the scale after my morning piss every day and write the weight down

>>40819239

This has literally no purpose and is kind of demotivating because your body does weird things with its weight.

I do it every second Friday morning

>>40818986
fuck u

>>40819244
It's just me being autistic and tracking progress.

>>40818986
shoo shoo loss goblin

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Show me your dinners, /fat/
This bad boy has ~300 kcal

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>>40819457

Dinner, 1027 kcal

>>40819457

my breakfast was 752 cals

normally i only have 300 cal means lol. but I wanted a salad and grilled chicken.

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>>40819457

Dinner 795 kcal

Here we go:

I used to lift a lot, and due to a high protein diet and relatively good genetics even though I stopped for a year and was eating lots of meat-themed junkfood, I mostly kept my muscle.
But I put on a bunch of fat. Not enough that it's like...a problem but enough that it's a problem for me.

So about a week and a half ago I decided to finally cut the shit. I'm about 6'4 and probably about 115 kilos.
I've began eating about 1200 calories a day, including a 500ml protein shake made with milk. Which is a big chunk of my calories for the day. Sometimes alongside an orange
Otherwise I just eat a few little snacks or maybe a frozen lasagna or something that's like 600 calories. Yesterday for example I ate only that protein shake, the lasagna and a couple pepperoni sticks which I eat every day so I'm not a vegetarian.
Long story short, I'm around 1200-1300 calories per day. Occasionally 100-200 more or less. And I'm actually feeling pretty good. I don't seem to be hungry that often and when I am I grab an orange or one of those pepperoni sticks or sometimes plain yogurt with fruit mixed in. If I do that I calculate it into my daily 1200 budget.

I dunno. It seems to be working for me quite well. In only a week and a half I'm noticing results. Feel like I can keep going over the long term. What do ya'll think? Is this too extreme a cut if I'm not feeling super hungry or tired or anything?

>>40819457
>frozen vegetable medley

>>40819562

if 1200 works for you then it works. as long as you're watching macros and nutrition you're ok. id reccommend less process foods for sodium/fat/cholesterol reasons which can effect your heart and kindeys along with other things.

>>40819565
yeah :/
tastes okayish but tommorow im going back to my rice, chicken, spinach & broccoli

>>40819612
Just get some fresh veggies, chop em and skillet em. Spice and season as normal. It hardly takes any longer, and the result is worth it. Or try roasting veggies. Roast cauliflower with cumin, roast brussel sprouts with lemon and parmesan, roast carrots with honey and garlic, roast green beans with balsamic vinegar.

The worst fresh vegetables are exponentially better than the best frozen veg.

>>40819597

Yeah trying to get some fruits and vegetables, and making sure there's lots of protein.

Less processed would definitely be good. Just need to figure out what I'd make instead.

Also I'm giving myself 1-2 days a week where I eat a bit more. Not a lot more just like... 1600 or something. You know, open up the window a bit. Should still be at quite a large deficit.

My biggest problem is I'm garbage at grocery shopping. I'm actually quite good at cooking but the grocery shopping bit is weridly challenging. Shit I knew hanging out in this thread would make my hungry. I mostly avoid talking about it so I"m not thinking about it. Thinking about it is the killer.

>>40819642

This is 100% not true. Frozen is fine because it's frozen basically off the vine. I dunno where this comes from. Where do you think the nutrients go?

just renewed my driving licence
should have seen my old picture, jesus.

>>40819650

fresh chicken, uncooked beans, fish, nuts all have decent protein and are "healthier" than you sodium wise if you get unsalted and season yourself at home. this is what I do and stay within limit.

my protein stuff I use the "now" brand nd it's low carb high protein. idk if it's comparatively better than other things but it works for me and im still losing weight.

I try to stay at 100g of each carb and protein daily, give or take. just depends.

1cup of oats has 10g, which isnt shabby.

I also personally use peanutbutter with no added sugar.

>>40819663

http://www.extension.umn.edu/food/food-safety/preserving/freezing/the-science-of-freezing-foods/

here's an educational source in case anyone asks

>>40819642
>>40819663
I actually like frozen broccoli better than fresh.
Fresh has this bitter aftertaste and frozen doesnt

>>40819663
I'm not saying it has more nutrients, I'm saying it tastes 100% better and gives you way more variety and choice in your meals making it much easier to stay on point.

>>40819731
Blanche that shit.

Broccoli does handle freezing better than most veg though.

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>within 10 lbs of finishing cut
>24 hour grocery store opens up within walking distance of apartment

NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

coffee bitch put too much sugar in my coffee

hows yall mornins goin

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>>40814742
national socialism is the fittest ideology

>>40819796

/pol/ pls go

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>>40814475
if dubs i do a dnp cycle

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>>40819811
it is the will of kek

>>40819790
how did you even that far if temptation is such an issue?

>haven't done a normal sized dump in days
>scale hasn't moved
REEEE I WANT TO SEE PROGRESS
anyone rec a good laxative brand?

>>40819244
You don't understand statistics. Just as there is high variance between measurements of two consecutive days, there is the same amount of variance between measurements two weeks apart.

Consider this hypothetical situation. You aren't losing any weight but maintaining it. One day you measure yourself and it happens to be a bit high that day. Two weeks later you are the same weight and measure yourself again. This time you happen to get a bit lower number. You conclude you are losing weight. This is why you should measure everyday and average over a week. It's very unlikely for 14 measurements to vary just so that you're made to draw an incorrect conclusion whereas only two measurements are at much greater risk to do so.

Measuring infrequently would be ok if you expect to see changes in your weight larger than the expected range of variance. Like for the 600lbs superfatties that lose can lose 20lbs in a week.

>>40819740
Have to agree with this. Fresh tastes better. I was using frozen onion, peppers, etc for convenience and to buy in bulk.

The extra water from freezing and the process ruins the texture.

>>40815272

cravings never stop, it starts off loud and slowly becomes quieter and quieter until it's just a whisper in the back of your mind — but it's still there

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>>40819811
If you have a girlfriend, use a condom. Don't wanting to be shooting toxic yellow jizz in her

I hit 293.3 lbs last night. I'm 5'6 so it's really really really bad.

I was at 180 four years ago and I just let myself go after I sold my business.

I don't wanna be 300

>>40819811

Bruh I still have some left over from last time. Does that shit go bad? It's fucking poison so no, right?

>>40819492
You're not gonna make it.

>>40819740

I disagree, you just have to go through the proper precautions when defrosting and that shit will be fine.

Frozen vegetables are arguably "fresher" as they are frozen almost immediately after being harvested.

>>40819850
so dont be

>>40819642
>Just get some fresh veggies,

Dude it's literally the hungry gap right now, do you know how much they cost? And even then all you can get is flavorless greenhouse crap or something that spent two weeks withering on a cargo ship from Africa or Asia.

>>40819825

eat more fiber you fucking idiot

>>40819811
Godspeed

Fuck I really want some pierogis.

>>40817809
>not 1000mg of caffeine a day

never gonna make it

>>40817990
Dairy in general is calorie dense and as such will fuck up your calorie counting real easy. On the other hand, being loaded with fat makes it sort of ok if your counting macros and need more fat.

But fuck ranch. If you're using that to make your vegetables edible, you're fucking up.

>>40819848
Is that really a thing?


Also real quick can anybody tell me if dnp will cause DNA damage to sperm?

>>40819854
I don't think it goes bad breh


How did your cycle go?

>>40820065
>Dairy in general is calorie dense and as such will fuck up your calorie counting

gotta get on that cottage cheese my man.

gonna pour pancake batter down my gullet until I can't breathe

>>40820071

Went ok but was like a year and a half ago.

>>40820101

ok open wide

>>40820101

Good plan. Go hard.

>>40820080
Huh. Duly noted.

>>40820065
eh, youre being awfully dramatic about ranch, low fat versions are okay, especially if youre just using a little bit for dip

lotta dramatic people on here

>>40819993
Is there really anything that bad about them? I get full on just four of them (potato and cheese ones)

>>40820194

LITERALLY
NEVER
GONNA
MAKE
IT

I shaved my beard today, I swear I didn't have a double chin before.

Zyzz give me strength, I want to make it.

>>40820067
Lads I knew did it and said the stuff was pouring out of them. Yellow sweat staining the sheets and one said his jizz looked yellow. He started wrapping up and his missus got paranoid he was wrapping up because he had been cheating kek

>>40820199

Eh. They're just kinda... calorie dense.

/fat/, i'm 6' 210 pounds. I think this is roughly a good end goal weight after getting swoled up, maybe 200.

I've been watching what I eat recently and i'm starting to see more definition in my arms for sure, but I'm staying roughly the same weight (constantly 205-210).

is this bad? should i go for a hard cut first? does it matter?

>>40820194
I've seen enough fatties slather everything in ranch to know they just use it to load on more calories while making themselves feel better about eating veggies.

>>40819993
Pierogi is already plural.

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I did it /fit/. I threw out all the soda and unhealthy food.
I'm gonna start eating oats, but what the fuck do i mix oats with? water, milk ?

>>40820655

I know. I actually live in Poland (though am not Polish), but in English you say pierogis.

>>40820835
Amerifat here. The fuck is a pierogi?

>>40820858
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pierogi
>has a practically endless source of information at his finger tips
>still asks stupid questions
Never gonna make it breh.

>>40820535
record your bf% too. If it goes down while you stay the same weight then you are doing fine. But if you are just starting you CAN build muscle while losing weight just fine.


>>40820808
water. Can mix in some fruit too.

doesn't really matter what you eat as long as you remain don't go above your deficit.

>>40815210
>at 50%
Just means your transformation will be a drastic one. Just work hard and don't give up.

new thread when?

>>40821107

When we all have abs.

>>40821184
>>40821184
>>40821184
>>40821184
>>40821184
NEW THREAD

NEW THREAD

NEW THREAD

>>40815119
rip my man, hope you didn't drink it

>>40815322
Subway is gross tho

ex subway employee

>>40816276
I fell asleep, but 270

>>40815446
>Is norovirus the key to cutting?

And to losing your gains. Last time I was sick it was probably norovirus since I had diarhhea, fever and could barely swallow food without feeling like vomiting. It lasted a mere two days and yet all my lifts dropped 5% which took me two months to get back.

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>>40819791
>putting sugar in coffee in the first place

are you even fucking trying to make it