What does the natty limit look like? If you put a person with

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>>40805436
like this

>>40805436
>implying the natty limit can be reached within a year

Key factor for the natty limit is how long it takes to achieve vs roids.

>>40805436
The natty limit is basically your body's way of saying "alright buddy any more muscle mass at this bodyfat would just be useless and make our muscles lose their purpose"

Natty limit is fairly big, but not that big, most normies see it a "steroids" though

There is no "limit" per se, but you suffer diminishing returns. This is why people say to lift for a few years before hopping on the gear, so you have the muscle base you can actually build on when you push the juice in

>>40805469
Five years.
If you bust ass and really go for it...you'll see the majority of your gains and reach near max potential withing 3-4 years.
After that you'll be lucky to get 2-3 pounds of real muscle and any significant strength gains.

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>>40805554

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>>40805436
Here you go

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Errbody is different but something like this. Mind you that this is with pump and good angle.

>>40805616
And true to form, Scott looks DYEL with clothes on.

That's the natty life.

>>40805623
who's the terrorist?

>>40805646
some dyel fag

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>>40805609
i would be so mad if i worked natty and ended up with abs likme the guy on the right. looks like a cobblestone path

>>40805870
is the second most aesthetic one there

>>40805943
if 3 men are married and they all beat their wives, but one brother beats his wife the least.. he is the best husband, but they are all shitty husbands

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>>40805436
this is the natty limit after 4 years of heavy calisthenics and over 90 kg at 185 cm

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>>40805436
Best progression I've seen on this site.

>>40805994
Natty? Hell no.
Natty+? Definitely.

>>40806010
lmao you are so ignorant . You must have never seen what discipline and hard training can give you

Obviously genetics plays a part on thins but definitely natty and achievable.
Just search him Adam Raw and you will understand

>>40806010
>everyone bigger than me is on gear
>everyone smaller than me is dyel

Welcome to /fit/

>>40805464
Why are you posting your shitty fat body everywhere? Are you trying to force a meme?

>>40805996
>uing with gf about weightloss
why is his squat so shit?

>>40806010
what's natty+? like small test cycle, sarms, what?