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/fraud/ - steroids general

a.k.a. shitposting and blogposting general, with occasional talk of steroids

If you're new, read the reddit r/steroids wiki before asking questions.

Before asking a question, make sure to include:
>age
>BF%
>time spent training
and any other information which has a chance of being useful.

NO SOURCE TALK.
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>>40779868
my dick is 7 inches and doesnt hang past my balls flacid
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Has anyone here used MENT and if you have what are your thoughts? Is anything going to be better than tren ace?
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>>40780110
hey fags I'm running ibutamorine and enobosarm and this is my log

Week 1:

Didnt lose weight for shit like I was planning to because my fat ass friend kept ordering fast food during our vacation. Gained 3 lbs and worked out a grant total of 1 time during the week long break

Anyway, so far I feel good. Muscles fuller but could be from weight gain. Although I lifted only 1x, I noticed significant strength gains today (significant considering it's only been a week). Even though I basically took 2 weeks off bench, I was able to rep 235 like it was nothing today although I struggled with a grindy 225 the two weeks ago when I last benched (stopped because of a tricep injury)

Squats are going up as well. I was grinding last week but today I was able to slap on 5 lbs and squat easier than ever across sets of 5. Aside from that, I notice the enobosarm is inducing significant hunger reduction.

I'll probably make better, e3d reports when I'm not hammered and care more

fuck all of you
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>>40780110
pic related

will tren really give you crazy ass jaw gainz? what can you expect after a couple cycles?
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>>40780110
So lads I'm going for a holiday to Nam as soon as I finish blast, it's 17 days I'll be off test, I'm gonna use nolva after 10-14 and hit cruise as soon as I get back, how much gains will I lose and what would you do in this situation?
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>>40782541
Why u dont blast there also?
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mates whats the best gay website for minor gold digging (ie just free meals and shit, then end with pecking the guy on the cheek at most)?

grindr is fast as hell with tons of messages, but its prolly just a 1 night stand kind of place.

would okcupid be a lot better? tindr doesnt strike me as nice cause I have to proactively like someone as opposed to them chasing me.
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>>40782644
yeah
u should get gear there if u look round pharmacies and gyms
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>>40782832
>>40782644
Pharmacies in Nam are as slack as Thailand?
Then I would cruise for sure
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>>40782843
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So I have an almost unlimited stock of prescribed Testo Gel 50mg.

Will it be worthwhile running massive amounts and count as a low level course?

I can literally rub it in as needed.
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>>40780110
What are the odds of fucking my shit up with a small test-e cycle with proper PCT? I don't want to blast and cruise. I just want to do a small cycle or two and be done with it.
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>>40781858
we've come to a point where this might as well not be bait
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>>40783070
It's likely that you'll get infertile and never be able to produce testosterone ever again
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>>40783070
>only one cycle guys I swear
this is a meme,you'll be consumed by darkside.
and next thing you'll find yourself while pinning tren into your ass.
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I have a sore lump under my skin in one of my injection sites. I feel like that test went to waste, since I feel fucking weak and tired (I'm on prop and the last day I pinned, excluding this last time that caused the lump, was Friday).

Is this something I should be worried about? The lump is losing size, but I'm pretty sure that 100ml went to waste, which is a shame.
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>>40781858
Lmfao nobody cares that you sit in your ass, slack on workouts, drink alcohol and blog about your placebo feels. Get the fuck out you faggot.

>>40783497
Don't worry, it will still be taken up by the body just the half life will be hard to guess. Just continue as you would have if that didn't happen.

>>40782994
Not really it would be very annoying if not nearly impossible to reach roid level, just get test e and inject if you wanna run a cycle and use the gel to cruise.
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>>40783497
>100ml of prop
WHATEVER IT TAKES
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>>40783558
C'MON!

In all seriousness though, I meant mg.
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I was going to add some tren to my cycle last night but wimped out

>25
>12-13% bf (likely 12 with some test bloat)
6'1" 212 lb
>lifting 6 yrs
>on second cycle

Is there anything to be worried about or should i just quit being a bitch
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>>40783717
before/after pics?
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>>40783717
Ride the dragon, anon.
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>>40783535
Thanks. Was a shame to just have it sitting around doing nothing.
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I frontloaded test e 1g over 4 days lol mad?
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>>40783670
I got that. Just kekd at the mental image.
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Wet compound comfy blast life

How we all doing today fellas
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>>40783535
get ready for more blogging faggot cause its coming
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>>40784337
could be better

qt I'm thinking is dating material has exams all week so it doesn't look like we're going to be able to meet again until week

in the meantime I have a hookup tonight and another one tomorrow night plus more in the planning stages to get my mind off of dating material qt
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>>40784570
>until week
until next week
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>>40780110
For next course theres a few weeks at the start where it's just test/eq, shoul I chuck in an oral kickstart for 4 weeks?
Lean gains so thinking tbol, would 4 weeks at 40mg ed be a decent kick or does it not show results quick enough?
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>>40784657
>40mg of tbol
welcome to the most useless addition of all time

>lean gains
s d r o l

or you can just frontload the test
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>>40782035
pleas respond
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>>40784704
Isn't sdrol crazy on the liver?
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Would DNP @ 250mg a day drain your glycogen if you were to take 50mg of winny and 20mg superdrol daily along with test/tren?

I assume you won't, even on fucking keto with 1500 deficit.
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>>40784712
the jaw has muscles that can be trained like everywhere else and tren does help there, coupled with the typical shredded look that comes with tren that usually means a more defined, manly jaw

>>40784730
yes. get tudca.
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>>40784704
Feck I can get sdrol but only in 20mg tabs, if I only want to go to 20 mg should I just take once daily or try and split the cap up?
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>>40784712
It does lean out your face
If you have natural bloof face then you're just gonna have a dehydrated wrinkly looking fat face

And you might go mental
If you're not mentally strong tren can be really dangerous
Paranoid, aggressive, grandiose, violent
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>>40784787
Just take it pre workout
Or split and parachute if you can be bothered
I'm gonna do 20mg a day for as long as I can
Godspeed anon
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>>40784761
Yep
Leave the orals for until you're done
You're pissing in the wind trying to stay full on DNP
Just get the couple weeks over, diet like you're tryna fit in a prom dress then add the orals and blow thee fuck up
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>>40784828
How do you do yours breh?
Or do you have 10mg caps
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>>40784846

I have 2 weeks and 3 days left before cosplaying.

dnp wont even arrive in 3 days and I need 4 days to recover.

I think I have to take the orals anyway because by the time I stop my DNP, the orals will be at full saturation and after 3-4 days(it's only 250mg, should easily clear) I should be super full and vascular after a reasonable carb up.
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>>40784847
10mg caps
But parachuting is easy
You seem Irish
Get a pack of rizlas
Open cap, split the powder on a mcg scale
Or eyeball it if you're a mad bastard
Put it in the rizlas twist it and eat it
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>>40784872
Don't bother with the DNP then imo
Have you used it before? Maybe you react differently than me
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cutting cycle
200 mg test p
100 mg mast
50 mg winnie
every other day
yay or nay
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>>40784872
you don't have time to run dnp my dude

you are going to be F L A T
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>>40784879
I'm Australian so yeah mostly Irish, I'll try the parachuting
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>>40784887

I can take 250mg without any side effects, though at that low of a dose a 10 day cycle only kills 4lbs, but 4lbs is still pretty damn good when you're 11%.

>>40784903

10 days of 250mg dnp should be recoverable in 4 days shouldn't it?

5-7 for 500mg.
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2 weeks of clen in a 500 calorie deficit combined with IF+keto, daily fasted cardio, lifting 3x a week and MK-677 (I barely get the appetite effects from it but I get all the others and its from a reputable source) to get from 12% bodyfat to 10% or lower

Yay or nay?
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>>40784937
Well then go for it laddybuck
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>>40784937
it took me over a week for 12 days (4 days 250, 8 500)

you do you though
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Did my first cycle on 200mg test as nothing else was available for me.

Felt good and made some gains, but now i can not stop thinking about pinning as i feel weak and dizzy now that t levels are dropping.

>I didnt make my self addicted to test d-did i...
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>>40785069
them sweet placebo gains
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>>40785080
>You did this
>h-h-hold me...
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>>40785033
Hey old timer
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>>40785069
you can't get a physiological addiction to steroids, they're only psychologically addictive
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>>40785158
Oh shit
It's been literally years
What's up bb
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>>40785158
I really miss the old threads t b h
So much drug selling and trading
Pharma test in cookie boxes
Trips going on holidays together
Feet and pics of cara
8 people per gh15 account
Stoya and FL

Comfiest online group ever
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>>40784570
Remember random sex will never be out of your system. Only get involved with qt if you're really willing to give it up.

2017 YEAR OF BEING CONSIDERATE
2017 YEAR OF QTGFS
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>>40785276
>>40785328
>>40785276
>>40785328
I just bought some roids for the first time in ages, reminded me of the ddays on here so I've been checking in here and there.

They were the greatest. The descent of Fatlifts into a raging drug addict will never leave my memory.
I saw slut post the other day. I'm sure I saw a post from SB too.
MAKE STEROID THREADS GREAT AGAIN
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>>40784337
>when the gear ships late so you get free rons

I hope I never have to use another source.
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>>40785335
>Only get involved with qt if you're really willing to give it up

Man is it tough sometimes.

>when the 22 year old hard-body girl is mirin and you're not wearing the ring
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>>40785429

>tfw gear delayed 2 weeks
>source tripled my t3 and gave me back 50% of my paid amount in cash

nigga just keep delaying that shit.
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>>40785328
most of the guys (save for a few who are probably dead) still drop in now and then, but the hay days of this general are over. it still has its moments though
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gay
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>>40785442
I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THIS

well technically I didn't sign shit cause not legally married but you know what I mean
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>>40785482
Thanks for choosing us, of all people, to finally come out. Now go get em tiger, suck some cock like you always wanted to.
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>>40785335
>2017 YEAR OF QTGFS
Wew let's gooooooooooo.

>>40784570
>my mind off of dating material qt
Some roastie is going to divert your attention and you'll forget about the qt. Don't fall for it.
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>>40785495
jokes on you anon, I already fucked your dad
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>>40785335
I don't think I can do it but we'll see. if you could (except for that one time), I'm sure I'll manage
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>>40785541
Feck how old are you, he's been dead since '91.
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>>40785557
19
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>>40785557
>implying anon wasn't pedobait at that age
>implying he needed to be alive to be fucked

sorry for your loss but still, it can be done
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>>40785571
Not mathematically possible then. Go away.

>>40785572
Oh shit. That makes sense. Eww.
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REEEEEEEEEE i cant stop eating when im high testosterone fuck I was supposed to start my cut today
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>>40785328
>tfw no c o m f y f r a u d

Miss those threads too, and the old irc .. Remember that one kid who was like really young? Can't remember his trip, pretty sure he was trolling the whole time
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Can anyone with experience with dnp share their stories with me? I want to hear some more anecdotal evidence.
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>>40785418
*Push*
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>>40785814
i did a line of dnp and died

it's dangerous dude
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>>40785814
you lose weight quickly and you sweat a lot
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>>40785814
You'll sweat, out eat your defecit because you eat like a fucking pig and not lose any weight.

Then you'll develop PN have pins and needles all over your feet and hands which will last months if not years.

And then about a year or so later you'll notice you can't see as well anymore so you go to the Dr. and they tell you that despite your age and low risk factors, you've developed cataracts.

Best of luck anon
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Finished up my first test cycle 2 weeks ago.

Holy shit, y'all were right that it's hard to keep the same motivation. Feels like I'm chasing to keep my gains.

Been keeping up on my PCT pretty good and haven't lost any weight, but I just feel smaller.
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Its official now.

Im a dyel fat piece of shit. Not even steroids can fix my shit genetics.

>tfw i have cursed myself the second i stabbed myself with these chinese flintstone vitamins.
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Do domestic packages ever get seized? Asking for a friend. There's no customs for domestic so I couldn't see how they would get seized but I'm sure the (((DEA))) has their tricks...
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>>40785915
>cycling
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>>40785929
Body dysmorphia is best preworkout, agreed, but don't layer it on THAT thick pls.
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>>40785915
Do you feel depressed from low T? I'm going off in 2 weeks and tbH I don't want to go back to my semi-lowtest feels

>>40785929
up the AI
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>>40785929
up you're AI
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>>40785662
yeah the that dutch kid was unironically 15 or 16
forgot his handle desu
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>>40785933
not really, worst case scenario is something breaks inside the package and spills out, that might get your shit thrown out, maybe inspected if your post office has a reason to suspect the liquid might be dangerous

you'd have to be one unlucky motherfucker though
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>>40785826
>>40785830
>>40785878
Alright you guys convinced me, starting 250 tomorrow
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>>40785956
>>40785952
My e2 is in check. I just took a pic unflexed and couldnt believe how fat and dyel i look.
Gym messes with my mind. I look fucking shredded and jacked in the gym, and then i take a pic randomly and look like im 30%bf with zero fucking muscle.

>>40785944
i just hope this will stop once i cut.
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>tfw no canada dnp
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>>40785981
lel i once got a soaking wet package with like half the vials kaputt. some people just don't give a fuck.
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>>40785952
I don't think it's low T, it's just the fact that it's not as much T. A few weeks ago I could max every lift and be ready to go again in a few hours, now I actually feel fatigue.

Still lifting more or less the same weights though so I can't complain.
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>>40786017
gym lighting is the most anabolic thing there is. but hey, accept the bloof as a means to grow. you can always look forward to dem dere after cut shredz to keep you motivated but don't let it get to your head too much.
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HOLY FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I just took another pic and im really close to bang my head against the wall until i drop dead.

Give me one reason why i shouldnt just extend my blast from 16 weeks to -> 20 weeks.
Wait nevermind, im gonna do it regardless.

>>40786059
being cut is great and all but visually losing size and looking smaller in clothes makes me want to suicide.
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>>40786165
don't cut then. we /permabloof/ now
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>>40786165
>Give me one reason why i shouldnt just extend my blast from 16 weeks to -> 20 weeks.
>Wait nevermind, im gonna do it regardless.
lmao

I was originally going to do 12 and I've extended it twice now. it's also hard to not add tren.

man this cruise is gonna be the shortest cruise of all time if this keeps going. the worst part is I fully know why what I'm doing is stupid but I can't help it
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>>40786214
>>40786165

holy shit, i just realized something.
You guys prolly know that shitty cameras make everything look shittier than it is right? You look in the mirror and its all fine and then you take a pic and ur face is fucking ugly.

I think i just experienced the same thing with my pics.

Look at pic related. Thick, solid, tight, right?
Decent enough asthetics right?

Well the pics i took were legit Jason Genova tier. imbalances in every single muscle group, retarded af frame, as if someone intentionally shopped me to look fucking awful.

Im gonna do 20 weeks regardless but holy fuck i was on the verge of killing myself.
>inb4 cameras are the real thing
no, fuck off
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>>40785418
Lol me too, got some tren and sdrol
I've been turning into a boring old man and finding myself here more frequently
I can't memepost at all anymore though

>>40785662
Men? Lol he really did a tren cycle and really was like 16
I kinda coached him through it
I used to check my safemail more than my texts lol
So much drama and me being a sneaky Jew in the background stoking fires and getting free gear
Weird days
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What's the minimum amount of Tren E I can run without needing caber? I'e got some Tren E raw that I was gonna sell on, but I reckon I might have a go on it. I'm running Test E 250mg e3d atm.
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>>40785821
yeah buddy!
whatever happened with you and shoeface? still happy or moved on?

>>40785662
>>40785979
men? right? do you boys remember fucking Llamabrah?
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>>40786321
I've run a gram and been fine
Caber is awesome for busting nuts and sense of security though
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>>40786277
Dude is your chin/jaw fucked up ?
Because it looks like it.

>muhhh looking bad shit genetics
This is called body dsymorphia,this is why most of us and probably you roid,you'll get used to it so calm down,do your blast 16 weeks dont do retarded shit over a picture or two.
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Would it be a waste of time for me to just go into the gym with muscle groups to hit and just smash them until I can't use them anymore? Like go in and hit shoulders and arms, but without a set routine in mind?
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>>40786277
cameras unironically skew this for some people because they're essentially translating a 3D view into a flat 2D image. being photogenic (or, not) is a real thing, and mostly related to insertions, facial genetics, and such. people tell me I am quite handsome but I look like a stoned mong in pics, same principle.
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>>40786277
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>>40786343
I was planning on dropping my Test dosage to 125mg e3d, and hitting maybe 300-400mg Tren E, at max, as I wasn't sure of the sides, especially since it takes a while to leae the system, as enathate
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>>40786352
I'm confused.Isn't that what everyone does...?
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>>40786353
>>40786365
Why does this make so much sense.
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>>40786352
aka the masT approach
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>>40786312
I remember us joking that we should set up some /fraud/ source then fuck off with a couple of k each like mike and battwat

Our morals got in the way
>just found this pic in my old fraud folder
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>>40786376
I've been running Serge Nubrets program, since it's high volume high intensity. I think its because if you have a set routine, you're less likely to think 'that's enough', if you've stil got a few more sets to go. I mean if you do the set routine and can keep going, then maybe I would smash out some more for good measure.
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>>40786372
Get some caber
It's not too expensive off the Indians on sst

Punch holes in walls with your dick
And don't have to worry
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>>40786351
yeah i got a bloated face from the roids.

pic related, how it used to look like on 250mg test.

I still wanna do 20 weeks tho. I have wasted enough time being a boring ass faggot. Its time to go yolo.
I will think about it.

>>40786353
yes fucking this. I mean im not model tier in real life either, but cameras literally turn me into a -1/10, depending what camera is used.

I also noticed the stronger the angle you take the picture from, the shittier the imperfections and imbalances get.
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>>40786393
>old fraud folder
reeee I just posted that the other day

>>40786407
how much caber do you run? I need to drop my tren down from ~1g and probably come off of it for a while.
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>>40786393
Lol I remember
These threads used to have levels
Ghostgym, the IRC , that daft UK site we were all on, gh15
We even had our own forum for a bit

Fuck we were nerds
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>>40786425
yup, that is the exact reason I only trust my mirror. whatever pics I take are just weird instagram angles to bait easily impressed chicks on tinder, and even those pics I loathe myself.

btw mirin neck
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>>40786352
yes totally fine, its autistic to do a specific amount of reps and sets or follow a specific order of exercises.

pic related, 3 months into my blast.
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>>40786471
blast of what?
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>>40786407
How much caber should I be taking? Or where can I find decent info on dosage?
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>>40786475
lol, i figure you are not on steroids and you dont know anything about them?

whatever, it works. Aslong as your workouts are fucking hard and exhausting you are gonna grow.
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What do i have to juice to look like jujimufu
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>>40786500
no, I meant what were you blasting?
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>>40786528
just 500 test.
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>>40786443
oh shit son. you know what I probably downloaded it then desu. my folder on this comp only has like 6 images in it. calling it a folder kind of bigs it up more than it desrves

>>40786445
I never involved myself in IRC i regret all the drama I missed out on
One day I'm going to invest sometime going through some old archives to see some of the stupid shit people did in full. Like when chem just deliberately doxxed himself and by extension all the guys in that little crew lol
ghostgym fucking shut down :(
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Where do I even get DNP in Germany?
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>>40786469
aye bro aye, im gonna remember this the next time i want to judge my physique im just gonna try to look into a mirror with neutral lighting. Fuck cameras.

wew cant believe how fragile i am, mentally.
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>>40786498
.5mg once a week, twice if you need to
>>40786601
Lol I tried to get you involved
But then again I thought you were female for a while
I used to do a lot of drugs s m h
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>>40786602
try finding your answer on a german bodybuilding site instead
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>>40786601
>oh shit son
Well I should say I reposted it. Someone else made it.

>>40786633
Who the hell was the kardus guy who ran it anyways?
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>>40786625
unironically up your AI. I've been where you are now but I never was that close to the verge of suicide breh
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>>40782831

Fag
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Test e, tren e, mast cycle. What's the best ratio?
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How can I get some Tren at a resonable price? I live in a college town.
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>>40786710
internet
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>>40786718
could you be more specific?
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>>40786735
reddit
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>>40786748
which subreddit?
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>>40786780
Sst
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BIRTHING HIPS

>>40786705
250test 1g tren 500 mast. Tbh I've never noticed anything from mast except oily skin
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>>40786815
Well that was a bad pic.
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>>40786780
Stop being fucking lazy and go look on Reddit you mong. It's not hard to find it. Now on your way you cum slug.
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>>40786826
If thats your gf good job mane.
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>>40786815
>>40786826
Cheers mate, much appreciated.
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>>40785826
rip dude
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>>40786833
nah
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>>40786633
Well I guess I'll shell out the money then. I'm a fucking Jew which is why I brew all my own shit.

I started with the gear with the intent of B&C for life on just Test, cause I didn't want any bad sides. I hope Tren doesn't fuck me up lmao
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How bad are dnp sides at 250mg? Are we talking fucking drenched in sweat or like a slightly uncomfortable amount of sweat. Will this affect giving my gf the penor? I NEED ANSWERS.
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>>40786887
250? you might not even notice it
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>>40786881
Are your precocious
If you are you're fucked
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How bad is the bloat on Anadrol? Was thinking of adding it to my tren cycle in May, but don't wanna look like shit during summer.

This is the plan for my next cycle is 10 weeks 350 tren ace 350 test prop and the last 4-5 weeks winstrol 50mg a day... would adrol be good to add for the first 4 weeks at 50mg a day? Or is that too much orals for a 10 week long cycle?
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>>40786924
Thank you brother
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I'm on week 4 of an LGD cycle. I'm 6', 230 lbs at 18% bf. I'm also 27 years old.

To be honest, I feel as though I'm putting on size a lot faster, but I'm having very few strength gains. What are your experiences with LGD or SARMS in general? If LGD isn't that comparable to test, what about RAD?
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>>40786932
what
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What would be the best first time cycle mainly for strength gains?
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>>40787016
steroids
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>>40787026
Thanks
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Hmm..To permablast tren or not? I feel like it may be starting to make me lethargic so I was going to stop it and pick up proviron and some memek677.

Thoughts?
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why do i never piss clear anymore while im on tren??
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>>40787080
oh my god you are a fox
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>>40783717
Quit being a bitch.
Tren is something you need to learn to control. The mental sides, the sleep and sweat sides. You get past it and learn to love it. I literally can't stop using tren. I love it.
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>>40786376
>>40786387
>>40786471
What split should I do then? Should I do ye olde Chest and Back, Shoulders and Arms, and Legs, twice a week?
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>>40787135
W-what?

>>40787082
Because you're not drinking enough water and taking care of your internal organs.

>>40787147
>mental sides
Not him but I've never noticed bad mental sides from tren. I've always been chill as hell and never get triggered by stupid shit. I've always had some social anxiety though but it hasn't really made it worse.
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>>40787159
Why not upper/lower split 2x a week. It saves you 2 training days with aprox. the same workload potential.

Also full upper body pumps are heavenly.
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>>40787196
I would be in the gym 7 days a week if I didnt think I should rest. I don't like not working out.
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>>40787209
Well since you roid you could probably get away with upper/lower 3x a week.
I really don't understand why people do 3-day splits or more. The more muscles you do per training the better.
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Added sdrol to my blast yday, tried it before at 40mg, so I started off at 60mg yday and today.

my shit is liquid
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>>40787080
proviron is the shit at higher doses. comfy qol gains with literally no sides
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>>40787342
How high? at 50mg ED all it made me was a little less lethargic
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>>40787355
kek stupidly high. most I've done was like 150mg, after that you get diminishing returns with vastly increased sides (although I've read online that people have ran it up to 600 ED, I'm not made of cash or looking to become DHT monster though).
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>>40787395
What does prov even do for you? I've been told it's basically a meme roid
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What dose do I need for bicurious guys to pop hardons for me in the gym?
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>>40787395
r u bald now. shits pure DHT

also did it make you look more masculine
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>>40787419
QoL gains, it was invented to treat depression in men after all, lol. dries you up and removes bloof, minor strength gains, doesn't aromatize and monkeys around with shbg so you have more free test (which is always nice), generally "amplifies" your cycle/blast/cruise quite well because of that. also YUGE libido increase for me.

think of it as oral mast, with less potency mg per mg and some added feelgood gains. this is for 100mg+ plus mind you, at 50mg, or let alone the therapeutic 25mg it's meant to be used at, I didn't feel jack shit besides a bit of mood lifting tbqfh

>>40787474
nah. I generally have a hairline of steel though (no MPB in my family whatsoever) so ymmv greatly
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>>40787395
>up to 600 ED
HARD AS A ROCK AND AS DRY TOO

just dht my shit up fampai
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>>40787026
which ones though
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>>40787571
lmao I only read about it, I have no reason to assume the guy was lying but you know, anecdotal internet evidence. 200-250mg or so is not unheard of though, never went that far but I could see the appeal if for some reason you don't want to blast yolo amounts of mast or similar. I dunno, a long lasting proviron habit is too expensive for me anyway, was just fun to try cause I got lots of it for cheap (which I can't anymore). would definitely recommend.
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>>40787586
yes
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I'm really tired of stuttering and being short and ugly
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>>40787533
>I generally have a hairline of steel though
So far I'm not shedding after 15 weeks of 600mg test. Really hope it stays this way.
Also my dads 65 with a full head of hair though he's thinning
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>lfm dht
what did they mean by this?
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>>40785335
>2017 YEAR OF BEING CONSIDERATE
>2017 YEAR OF QTGFS

You're alright star-head roid-man. You're alright.
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>>40785929
Welcome to the club
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>>40787763
WoW post-WoTLK
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>>40786378
How's your Driver's License hold up to how you actually feel you look?
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>fraud because manlet and sub 5 inch dick
>get yuhge
>guys with normal sized dicks and above, and roasties condemn me for frauding/compensating
When will this dick size-ism discrimination end? They don't fucking know. I hate them.
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>>40787824
That one's kinda old and literally me as a 250lbs 35%bf oxygen waste so this does not really apply here anyway lel. But yeah, this does make sense overall.
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>>40787836
Iktfb. I think we should just tell our loved ones about fraud. And other pro frauders.
I originally started by trt given to me by a Dr. Cause low as fuck T and my co workers just said "well you can still be low T right you don't HAVE to fraud it's not like it's bad for you." Mind you this is a dyel 120 pound 6'2 lanklets need telling me this. Fucking retard I don't want to be like you. Proceeds to call me testosterone boy /estrogen boy cause I TRT. Despite him being a think I could break his back. I hate normies REEEEEE
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>>40786312
hahaha yes, men!

>>40786686
kardus was a mysterious fat canadian nigger who lived on DNP, white gatorade and some bullshit fast food that he used to eat EOD

Good guy though, sent me some test for cheap one time and I wish he was still around so I could get some DNP

>tfw no canada DNP
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Any chat room chat apps or somewhere I can go to get mires. I have a gf a d don't want to cheat but I have deep insecurities that can only be fixed by girly mires. Pls. I'm desperate. Preferably something low key?
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>>40788623
tinder with shirtless pic, nuff said
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>>40788623
grindr. thirsty gays give the best mires, n-no homo
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So /fraud/ I think I made it, I was on fucking around on my phone in the car-park outside my gym and an older bloke came up to me and was like, mate you're fucking shredded I want to lose some weight and tone up what should I take winkyface.

>tone up

Did I just get mired by someones dad, what exactly did he mean by this.
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>>40785335
>2017 YEAR OF BEING CONSIDERATE
>2017 YEAR OF QTGFS

It begins

>>40785442
not looking forward to this
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>>40788659
Still need a Facebook huh.
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>>40788773
is it you who keeps getting these threads pruned?
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>>40787342
I like it but it's kinda hard to stomach that it's the same price as tren per g.

>>40787395
Shit I think I ended up running damn near 750mg for a week or two and never really noticed a huge difference or any hair loss.

>>40788540
>mysterious fat canadian nigger
Lol did he ever come here or just stay in the IRC?

>>40788773
>2017 YEAR OF QTGFS
Shit if I lock down this work qt there'll be 3 of us here with new QTGFS. Wew ex-phlebotomist gf should be fun.
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>>40788997
>if I lock down
When I lock down*

>750mg
Now that I think about it it was probably closer to 1g.
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Is he on roids? He claims natty
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>>40789092
kill yourself
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>>40789092
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>>40789092
looks manlet.

could easily be natty if manlet.
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>>40789092
As someone once said
You can get pretty big naturally
You can get pretty shredded naturally
But not both
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>>40787466
... Wait. Is that what I think it is?
In the blue shorts?
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>>40788773
do you literally post your fiancees ass on 4chan.
so some 12 year old can save them and use them for cuck threads in /b.
you are not only a bald manlet,also a fucking retarded cuck.
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>>40789210
>sharing pics of your gf is cuck shit
I can see your insecurity from here
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Anyone have any thoughts on the most side effect free steroids? Anavar excluded
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>>40789269
>not letting a nigger cum inside your future wifes womb.
I can see your insecurity from here.
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>>40789210
>so some 12 year old can save them and use them for cuck threads in /b.

see>>40789293

>some 12 year old
projecting your own mentality much laddie?

>tfw he isn't proud of what he has
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>>40789341
yes totally my mentality,this place isnt filled with 15 year olds man.
>being proud of what he has
flashing is a cuckold fetish,I dont post my fiancee on 4chan because of I respect her,she isnt a fucking car.
You are so insecure that you need to prove yourself,this is why you post these pictures.
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>>40789284
test.

>>40789293
thats some hefty projection.

low t?
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>>40789366
>flashing in full exposure with legal ramifications as well as being easily identifiable is the same thing as posting a picture on an anonymous Indonesian jewelry manufacturing imageboard

talk about a leap

>you are so insecure that you need to prove yourself, this is why you post these pictures

>saying this in a thread where literally every other post not related to blogging is a picture of someone self-posting for physique mires/advice

really makes me think
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>>40789370
>test
Depends on the dose
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>>40789284
test @ low dosages
proviron
arguably DHB
EQ
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>>40789424
How low? At, for example, 100mg, you would not see real physical changes right?
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>>40789408
Congrats on girlie. Where did you find her and how old is she?
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>>40789424
>DHB
maybe if you could actually brew it at more than 100mg/ml without guiaicol and other toxic shit.

>EQ
brb blood sludge
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>>40789370
so you let a nigger cum inside your fiancees womb ?
sorry for the projection man,I was wrong.
>>40789408
>self posting for physique for mires/advice
generally anons just talk about roids,only retarded tripcucks like you do the blogposting.
why am I arguing this shit.
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>>40789450
across the pond in the middle of eastern europe (CR) and 22.

>>40789447
High end cruise dosage, 100-250mg depending on the person

>>40789452
could probably manage DHB at 100mg/ml if you got BA/BB ratios just right and with MCT. But if we're getting down to the chemical components of the brew itself then that's potentially hazardous regardless of the compound, since it's all UGL

>Eq/sludge
yeah, it's true. But that's manageable and really there aren't any other sides from EQ other than

>muh anxiety

and low dose EQ doesn't have a massive impact on that. Granted, low dose EQ doesn't have a massive impact on anything, but he wanted advice on the compounds, not maximizing potential uses for them
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>>40789447
Depends on the person. 250 should give minimal sides with most guys
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>>40789410
Lets compare it then.

Test 250mg sides
-May or may not need ai depending on user
-Mild blood pressure rise
-hornyness depending on user or if ai is needed
-can accelerate baldness

Tren 250mg sides
-Shitty cardio
-mild to high blood pressure buildup
-high prolactin sides depending on user
-paranoia, aggressiveness, hornyness
-cholesterol levels

mast 250mg sides
-might accelerate balding on some users
-aggressiveness, hornyness.
-cholesterol in the bleacher

test really is just the least side effect steroid while having the best value.

i mean sure you can have zero sides on proviron but good luck having any real gains on running that stuff solo.
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>>40789506
>>40789499
What sort of sides are we looking at? Like someone with no history of male pattern baldness would have no problem with that at such a low dose, but would testicular shrinkage and loss of natural test still occur?
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>>40789513
ai? (newfag)
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>>40789543
Drugs that people use to control their estrogen while on steroids.

Using most testosterone based steroids will also up your estrogen so you'll have to use a drug like aromasin or arimidex to keep them in normal levels.
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>>40789561
oh aromatase inhibitor, never seen the abbreviation.
Would a single drug do the work or would an entire stack for just blocking estrogen be necessary?
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>>40789592
a single drug would do fine.

Aromasin is easier to dose and but in general a bit more expensive.

Arimidex is harder to dose but cheaper..
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>>40789529
>testicular shrinkage
depends on the person, pin hcg 500iu 2x a week if you really care.

>loss of natural test
that'll happen with any steroid.
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>>40789452
shittytumblrgif.gif
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>>40788997
>>40789028
either bunk or you're literally, unironically immune to DHT, in which case you need to volunteer to be studied for science
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>>40789687
yep
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>>40789690
>either bunk
the supplier has uplc tests for each that showed 97.90% but obviously its not 3rd party so who knows.
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>>40789734
no idea then. I only trust 3rd party but hey good luck getting those without jano on speed dial. still, even if it was legit, you cannot not be in androgenic overdrive on 750mg, as mild as the compound itself is.

hmmm. congrats on being a non-responder, might also explain why you run grams of shit for ages and remain only mildly inconvenienced :^)
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>tfw you got good test but your rep went through some issues that didn't affect and you still get 6 vials of test for free
feels good
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>>40789792
It's not that I'm a non-responder because i'm xboxhueg I guess I just expect too much from a lot of these compounds.

>jano
honestly im not sure I completely trust him either since everything he tests seems to return 96%+

>mildy inconvenienced
only my wallet and injection sites.
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>>40789841
who knows. depending on what you run with it, the effects could really just get lost in the general gist of the blast. happens to me with moderate dose adrol often, I only notice what it did after I stop it lel

unrelated
>dat resolution
this is why I lurk on such a huge monitor. can almost see the reflection of the camera in her asscheek
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>>40789841
lol it was with 1g tren 1g mast 250 test 70mg var 70mg mDHT
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>>40789926
>not noticing admittedly minor proviron gains while running 1g of mast and 70 mDHT
what did he mean by this
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>>40789926
>1g tren
Did you die?
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>>40789926
>>40789956
kek I ran my 150mg with 300/400 test/tren. we have the scientific answer, you're just a goddamn fiend, and immune to provi dht gains because you're already chock full of it.

mirin dedication though
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>>40789961
Not yet. It's not as bad as people make it out to be.

>>40789956
Doesn't matter, UP THE DOSE.

>>40789981
How do you like low dose tren?
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>>40790131
it's fun. almost none of the negative mental sides (although I'm fairly left alone by those even on higher dose) and still looking better every day, although not as fast of course :^) could cruise on this dose if I had the money, and nothing left to live past my 30th birthday for.
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>>40790131
>UP THE DOSE
maybe i should. brb literally tripling it from todays pin to the next
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>>40786277
that jaw
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I know you can't REALLY say for sure what drugs do what to an individual

But does this look more like tren or high ass EQ to you guys? This is literally goal for me.
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>>40790303
idiotic amounts of EQ probably. not that I really care to analyze,
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>>40790131
Sauce on pic? Image search can't find it
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>>40787801
Who you calling star-head m8 I swear
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>pissing out my ass for the last 3 days
Korean bbq is such a gains goblin I swear
What a waste of steroids and time

Man I want a drink
Almost had 2 weeks before without
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>>40787466
fkn rekt lmao
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>>40790329
Didn't tren use take a while before it became mainstream neme tier? I know there's a few pics of Arnold using tren hex. But it doesn't seem to have been popular. Could be very wrong, I'm not really educated on the history of recreational steroid use.
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>>40790420
>rekt
?
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>>40790423
I'm literally only going by the fact he's got some bloof and a flushed chest. I could be wrong, and I am fine with that cause I really don't care lol
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>>40790434
you must be new here
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>>40790464
exblain?
>>
God dammit. Anyone here struggle with bad calf genetics?

I have good quads, good upper body, but when I wear shorts my calfs make me look DYEL because they are naturally skinny and small. Really fucks me up, I don't even want to wear shorts. Exercising calves won't even help because they will just get more diamond-shaped and slightly larger
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>>40790569
>I would rather have skellington calves than diamond shaped big ones
the more you know
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>>40790569
>my calfs make me look DYEL
>I hate exercising calfs
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>>40790335
Mica muruna. Argentinean model.

>>40790211
Do it.

>>40790189
Ill probably drop to 500mg soon and run that till I run out

>>40790418
>Man I want a drink
Cucked by the liquid Jew.
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>>40790630
I wish I was
Smh
>>
>decide to leave /fraud/ and look at another thread on this board for a change
>see someone bring up something about gear
>decide to respond honestly with my experiences and some relevant scientific facts
>legions of natty momscientist keyboard warriors decide I'm wrong and they get better results with hard work and good nutrition (as if you can't be dedicated, eat well AND take gear)
never again
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>>40790630
>Do it.
that would bring me to 900 test 1.2g EQ/deca each and 180mg adrol
>mfw

I'M SO FKEN READY FOR THIS

>>40790801
we all learned that lesson. i barely leave /fraud/ anymore, fuck this shit.
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>>40790584
>>40790621
I don't think you get what I mean. That whole area of my leg is just skinny. When I look at other guys, their calf area is holding some fat and has a better muscle distribution. It's not as skinny as mine.

If I exercised calves, the best I could do is to get the back part of my leg to bulge out and look more diamond shaped. That wouldn't solve the fact that i have zero fat distribution in that area and the rest of that area is naturally extremely skinny.
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>>40790906
it's just the angle m8 don't overthink it
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>>40790801
>>40790839
>we all learned that lesson. i barely leave /fraud/ anymore, fuck this shit.

I don't think the natural bodybuilders realize that a 600mg of Test/week cycle is not dangerous, is simple, and can add 20 pounds on your beginner cycle.

Natties and normies all think that every steroid is like blasting Tren at 1,000 mg/week
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>>40790906
you can train more parts of the calf then just doing calf raises, try closing the angle between your foot and your shin
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>>40786214
Well I extended my original 20 week cycle into 52 and counting, so that's always an option.
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>>40790933
im really considering this but i only have 20ml test prop left and no money for enanthate.

fuck it. injecting 4 times a week is worth it for these gains.
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>>40790970
If you're healthy (cardio, diet) I don't see any issue with long blasts occasionally. Plenty of big guys cruise on 400 or 500 anyway so it's not a big deal. Just watch for sides or symptoms of stuff polycythemia. Otherwise the cardiac risk is your only concern and minimized by diet and cardio.
>>
>test up to 1500mg
>looking thicc
>had foursome last weekend
>ex blogging about how lame she is
>tinder is easy as fuck
>two new projects for work

Still unsatisfactory.
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>>40790569
You could try doing heavy farmers walks for conditioning/overall calf/trap gains
It might work if calf raises aren't doing enough for you.
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>>40790928
I don't claim to be superior because I pin, not at all. But having the (((dangers))) rubbed in my face whenever I so much as try to even think of giving my .02 on a topic is just rude lol, even without the ronalds I trained longer natty than like 40% of people here, so, fuckem.
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>>40791080
Ofc you are man. If your luck in life depends on an asian grill saying that you are a "big boy", you have problems.
I don't know what to tell you, read some philosophy maybe.
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>>40790569
unironically https://www.t-nation.com/training/answer-for-massive-calves
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>>40791155
If I can do many more than 100 reps already, should I go past that?
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>>40791080
You need meaning in your life beyond muh dik
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>>40791284
add weight (through a vest or dumbbells). and this is for barefoot on-your-toes heel raises (similar to some ballet faggotry), which are slightly different as far as calf strain is concerned.
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>>40791080
>test up to 1500mg
That seems like it'd suck. High test gives me horrid body acne but no other compounds does even over a gram. How much ai do you need?

>>40790795
Stay strong jerrbear. No drinkie. Destroy your liver with orals like a real man.
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>>40790928
>>40791115
yep desu if it wasn't for this general I'd likely not go on /fit/ and probably only ever go on getbig and fitmisc
actually weird thinking that this one general (and occasionally /plg/) is the only thing keeping me on a site I used to waste so many hours every day on and be immersed in so many boards on years ago
on an unrelated note this general needs more oc like pic related
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>>40790928
>>40790801
>>40791359
I honestly think the Natty hate for steroids comes not from "commitment to being a NATRUAL bodybuilder; no CHEATING allowed! I want to know what I'm NATURALY CAPABLE of and push my limits!!!!"

It comes actually from natties being too stupid/lazy/pussy to research safe steroid use, where to obtain steroids, and fear of needles. I think they're just too fucking scared to start a simple cycle, so they justify it by loudly decrying anyone who isn't a panzy shit.
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>>40791433
>tfw started out as a "natural bodybuilder"
>quickly realised natural bodybuilding wasn't a viable long term thing so turned to natural powerlifting and did decently with that for a few years
>realise I need to gain a lot of size to gain more than just a 1-5 pounds on each lift every year and don't want to be another "fat powerlifter", also looking into obscure preworkouts after developing insane caffeine tolerance and not liking dmaa and read about a lot of powerlifters taking superdrol as pwo
>tfw now a roiding powerlifter/powerbuilder
pretty much the opposite of what I wanted to be originally but wouldn't change a thing even if it means some kid doing SS and GOMAD so they can look like Zyzz or Arnold naturally thinks they're harder working than I am
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>ramp up orals to 75adrol/50dbol for ultimate bulk
>appetite disappears completely

Fuck me
Is appetite suppression from orals due to liver stress? Or some other mechanism?
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>>40786505
Holy fuck that looks fun as shit even though I can feel my shoulders exploding. I'm also trying to fully follow my routines diet plan. It's fucking hard brews
>1.5 lbs of ground beef and a dozen eggs EVERY DAY
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>>40791554
probably liver stress. are you using any liver support? I usually run NAC year round but when im on mild orals i do 3g/day
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>>40791554
F it was nice knowing you
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>>40791127
I was a Phil minor in school lmao
>>40791312
Very true androgen ducked my brain. I live to breed.
>>40791321
25mg asin ed just to keep from feeling anything.
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>>40791554
>not letting EQ hunger fuel your gains
>running a gram of orals
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is this all I need besides drugs? need someone here to look over it for me before I click buy. Should I buy longer injecting needle if I'm injecting into my gluts and I got a fat ass? should 2ml be fine?
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>>40791621
>>40791630
>>40791667
>implying Kahuna is a mere mortal

Both times my heart stopped and I was pronounced dead I came back. All evidence points to my being immortal.

I'm taking 600mg NAC. I have TUDCA lying around but it seems like such a meme to me.

Oh well back to blending oats whey milk and peanut butter 3x a day.
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Suppose that I want to look like the farnese heracles
Would test/a mild oral like tbol be enough to get me there over a couple of years.
t. 5'10" king of the manlets at somewhere just below 14% BF at 170 ish pounds
Been lifting for 2 1/2 years.
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>>40791682
>falling for the green needle meme
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>>40791590
I'd love to eat that every day. what routine? :^)
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>>40791682
are the needles and the syringes the same luer style? I see the syringes are luer slip but I don't know about the needles.

Ideally you want luer lock for both so you don't accidentally shoot a needle off pressing down too hard on the plunger.

Pinning glutes is meme, VG or quads are better imo but the length is fine anyways, I use 1" for quads and 1.5" for VG

>>40791725
>heart stopped
you damn immortal junkies, my little sister OD'd 3 times but somehow was lucky enough to get narcan each time. thankfully shes clean now, fuck heroin and all that.
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>>40791731
it's my first cycle - difference between green vs blue?
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>>40791725
tudca is no meme, it saved my sorry ass more than once tbqh
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>>40791740
Building the monolith a 5/3/1 variant. This is my second cycle of it, this time I'm following his advice.
>want to get big kid? Here eat as much eats and beef as you can
>oh yeah curl 100 times and shit

I replaced the shrugs with rack pulls and back has fucking exploded
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>>40791749
looks like they work http://www.medguard.ie/bd-hypodermic-needles.html
>BD Microlance 3 can be connected to both leur slip and luer lock adaptors
thanks for looking out for me though anon

I was thinking glutes or delts. My GP gave me injectings for B12 last year and he did it into my delts so I'd feel more confident with that. There will be time for trying out everywhere tho.
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Well the anadrol kicked in.

10 hours of digging and moving wheelbarrows full of dirt and mulch, set PR on my squat anyway. Bar just fucking moved, like gravity was lower. Absolutely amazing.
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>>40791749
She single? Jk glad she's ok mate.
Last OD in august I got 3 narcan in a row just to wake up. Fentanyl is spooky scary.

>>40791764
>bimbo detected
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>>40790906
>What is the soleus
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>>40791825
>glad she's ok mate
yeah, honestly I had lost hope and was waiting for the cops to show up at our door one night saying shes dead. Shes dating some old ass amateur rapper but whatever.
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>>40791796
ah, I see. never really paid attention to anything but the mere routine. well, if it works, whatever.

yeah snatch grip rack pulls (from roughly shin to below knee height depending on weight used) are the fucking bee's knees. got memed into them by a friend, I'd gay marry the fucker for that reason alone.
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>>40790839
>we all learned that lesson. i barely leave /fraud/ anymore, fuck this shit.
yep I've just been arguing with some faggot who thinks being a paedophile and only doing cardio makes him better than me because I roid and bang sloots
I'm fucking done with the rest of /fit/, I just hope for his sake he was some idiot kid getting a kick out of being edgy
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>>40791825
not bimbo. not sure if I'd like to be, no offense to him, kek
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>>40791859
I still actively shitpost like a mad cunt of course. but honest to god discussion or advice? noooooo fucking way. too much effort
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>>40791859
>only doing cardio
Literally the dumbest fucking shit. You can get some decent conditioning in if you program right with lifting. But if all you do is cardio you literally start wasting away, especially running.
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>>40791858
I was bored and I've never really earn BIG before. My rack can only go to knee height but they still fucking rock. More people need to do rack pulls. Strap in and just pull as heavy as you can.
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>>40791885
desu I just want more /fraud/ oc so I can shitpost it around the rest of /fit/ and get more of these faggots to at least stop believing momscience if not hopping on themselves
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>>40791901
brb turning sideways to fit through doors
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>>40791901
I feel like I'd either shit myself if I pulled as heavy as I can or the half racks at my gym would flip over when I put the weight down.
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>>40791906
my meme making skills are lacking recently, I just lack the effort with job and heavy liftan along with high maintenance gf. we should probably produce more shitposting material though, yeah.
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>>40791931
get better racks and a buttplug
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>>40791796
I fucking love that one. That's got the 20 rep squats on Fridays, right?

Just a great general easy-to-implement program.
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>>40791870
It's not awful being me
>>40791825
I'm already in the thread dogger
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>>40791870
>not bimbo detected
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>>40791906
I post these in /plg/ pretty regularly

>Reminder: if you're still natural you're basically not trying
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>>40791321
SMDH

>>40791906
Trying to educate forcefully ignorant people
Waste if time
Like trying to teach a woman emotions
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>>40791973
never said it was, but I'm doing effort/reward math here

pro
>literal T taper physique
>banging sloots left and right

con
>g4p
>incurable feels for 5/10 ex

an abstract sort of situation


>>40791983
atta boy
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>>40791818
How long did it take to kick in? What's your dose? Notice any bloat? What're you stacking it with
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>>40787809
lol I drink there all the time. (me making fun of the movie)
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>>40791931
I easily got over 750+lbs from about 2in above the knee as a natty who could barely deadlift 400. And that was like my 3rd time trying it.

They get fucking heavy, you'll probably run out of space on the bar if you're strong.
>>
Do prohormones work?
Do they show up in military drug tests?"
asking for a friend.
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>>40792026
why would you even
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>>40792037
>above the knee rack pulls
it should still be a challenge, m90
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>>40792045
Yes, but not as well as real shit

Probably not. More likely to than real shit, who knows what they put in that grey market shit, and what the fuck it'll metabolize into.
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>>40792048
I legit live down the street.
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>>40792059
Below the knee it's hip limited.

Above the knee you can leverage your thighs under and it becomes more upper back limited. They used to have a lift called the 'hand and thigh' that was basically the same and considered a better test of strength thsn deadlift because there's less variation in strength from a person's levers (arm/leg length).

No reason not to do both. I find that a couple inches above the knee and I get more of a nervous system potentiation effect out of it. Below the knee and it destroys my hips before anything else.
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>>40792100
i actually meant posting that pic, with that expression. but gj lad, sorta mirin

>>40792109
makes sense. never did above the knee much because putting too much onto upper back would actually make an old injury flare up too much

>b-but anon, just egolift less?
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE
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>>40792017
>putting g4p in con
Don't knock it till you try it friendo

>>40792109
Lifting for numbers is the ultimate king of memes.
>ask gf her opinion on the fully equipped oly strength fags at new gym
>"ew" "loud"
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>>40792299
I'm kinda ugly even with dat dere tren cutting magic, nobody wants to pay to see me have sex kek
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>>40792299
>"ew" "loud"
lifting for aesthetics is the only thing women will ever be attracted to unless you're trying to pickup some huge chick like george leemans girl. Thankfully I learned this early on and while im not the strongest im big as shit
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>>40791542
we get it brah, you lift heavy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL20pAUrgR0
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