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Steroids and lonely autists general.

No source talk for you asshats who need to be spoon-fed everything.

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>>40764426
>He fell for the AVG Korean GF meme.

Have you ever seen an Asian girl without makeup? Spooky.
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>>40764437
>You sound fucked up my dude

I sound fucked up because I would have sex with an 18 year old adult woman. This is what feminism has done to the west.
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>>40764359
>>40764400
>>40764415

Not good looking, but I mean I'm definitely not going for girls out of my league, you know? I kinda do that same thing though, mostly let them carry the conversation because they all love to talk about themselves, then whenever they ask me about how things are with me, I fucking spaghetti

But the biggest issue is going from chatting and interested in each other, to actually getting romantic/gettin sum fuk. Can't be done for me, without alcohol and usually she has to make it very obvious that she wants me

>tfw never gonna be cut and hueg and have grills flock to me
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>>40764482
Nah
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>>40764482
dont actually go for them, no koreas where i live

just once
>>40764484

stay away from schools
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>>40764578
If you cant get the girls, become the girls
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>>40764578
>chatting and interested in each other
Well if you two constantly carry on good conversation why not ask her if she's free one night and take her somewhere else to see if you still mesh?
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How do you UK bros get your blood checked regularly? Do you straight up tell your doc your roiding or what?
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>>40764586
Maybe it's because I generally dislike Asian facial aesthetics then. I just don't find them attractive.
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>>40764482
Really depends on the individual. Some look like aliens, some look exotic and elfin.
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>>40764672
I prefer mixed girls but generally it's agreeable. I got (un?)lucky, maybe.
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>>40764613
Because I'm a scared autistic pussy, I'm afraid it's just gonna be awkward because we'll run out of things to say and when I get nervous my mind goes blank and I literally have nothing on my mind and I start trying to find shit to say and come off as retarded

>tfw need anxiety meds

When I was with my ex, I never got like that. It's really only when I'm pursuing a grill
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>>40764763
Mixed girls, mixed humans in general but especially mixed girls, are fucking crazy.
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i wana do a quick cut on anavar considering getting some test so i dont feel drained
my Q, will var reduce shoulder width without test? i thought broad shoulders were dependant on T levels
an aku meme for ur troubles
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>>40764482
>>40764613
>>40764672
I should come here more often.
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>>40764766
You need to seperate your expectations and wants from the moment of experience.

You don't have nothing to say. You want something out of the situation and therefore limit your expression to that which you think will get you what you want. Since you've limited experience actually managing such (that is, getting strange into bed with you) you lack operating procedure and lock up.

The solution is to draw contentment inwardly and ground yourself in your basic experience of being. Then engage outward.

Ask if you need clarity
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>>40764766
I'm the same way in a lot of respects but if you're genuinely interested in one another then you should both contribute. Don't be so scared, shit today I told this girl she had really nice skin despite how weird it sounded coming from a 6'2 230lb guy and asked her if she did anything special for it (moisturize, surprise). I guess work on not giving so much of a fuck.

>>40764801
HIGH TEST CHADS OR HIGH ESTRO STACYS ONLY
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>>40764766
You've recognized the problem which puts your 10 steps ahead of the average oblivious schmuck.
Now keep in the forefront of your brain that a hot girl isn't going to randomly approach and start pursuing you, you've got to put in legwork.

Smile at and make small talk with literally EVERYONE. Cashiers, strangers in line, co workers. Social skills will develop but only if you develop them. Confidence and charisma build like a snowball effect.

The first time I got off drugs I couldn't go outside without being consumed with fear and anxiety. I was actually scared to talk to people at stores and shit.

Also roid yourself into an impressive body. I find that males and females both assume you're interesting and "cool" if your have a good body.
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>>40764851
>males and females both assume you're interesting and "cool" if your have a good body
That's because a good body is the ultimate status symbol. Outward display of health, wealth (enough to eat and time to workout), and at least enough commitment to workout a few times a week.

Arnie was onto something with that quote.
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The only way for me to get HCG is through some bitcoin bullshit. I've never had to order BTC and it seems like a giant pain in the ass.

How do I do this? Why dont people just accept WU like the good old days
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>>40764851
>literally EVERYONE
People probably think I'm legitimately retarded because I look at nearly everyone. Idk why most people don't look at each other's faces when it's arguably the most expressionate are part.

>>40764879
Gets people to randomly talk about you too. People at work always talk about my calves and vascularity and I've noticed some of the girls either try to touch my chest or back randomly when I walk by.
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My forearm at its thinnest is as thick as my fist and I dont like it

>>40764837
No stacys allowed

>>40764851
>a hot girl isn't going to randomly approach and start pursuing you, you've got to put in legwork.
Fuck women
Dont eat, be pretty, get guys to do all the work
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>>40764904
>expressionate
Expressive*
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I'm pretty roided up for a few years now... I'm aboutt to take a job that will have me traveling constantly though, and without consistant gym access and ability to keep gear with me, I'm gonna deflate pretty fast.

Feels pretty depressing.
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>>40764851
Ay I was saying in the previous thread this work qt that I'm supposed to take out is kinda poor and I was curious how does your well off GF handle things when you two go out? Not going to lie I feel bad for her because she can't get out and enjoy a lot of things that I think she would but it's humbling that she finds ways to be content despite that. I'm not trying to bankroll her life just maybe make her happier than she's accustomed to and I know money doesn't determine happiness necessarily.
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>>40764941
how are your balls doing
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>>40764963
Buy her a bigmac
Flex that dolla
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>>40764963
Best way to make anyone happy is to give them a sense of purpose and security in knowing that purpose.
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>day 8
>insomnia
>constant hunger
>sweat
>lethargy
>brain fog
not doing this again for a while
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>>40764941
Anytime Fitness my dude. They're fucking everywhere.
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>>40764805
>>40764837
>>40764851

Thanks for the good advice friendos, I expected to get called a faggot and told to up my AI
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>>40765061
DNP?
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>>40764851
Idk dude hot girls cold approach me a lot.
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>>40765091
cuz ur hot tho
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>>40765091
You should stop lying on the internet
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>>40765076
"God helps those who help themselves"

Most people are willing to help. Just not spoon-feed
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>>40764624
Help me out famalams
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>>40765041
Lol she was talking about dollar burittos from taco Bell and I was just sitting there like fuck, I've literally never had one.

>>40765045
That's what I'm aiming for in the future. I have a particularly strong draw towards providing a sense of security.

>>40765091
Must be the glasses.

>>40765076
No worries. I'm just now realizing that companionship is one thing I've been severely missing. When I was talking to this work qt and asked her what she's been doing on her days off she said "literally nothing" I felt like I should take a chance with her because neither of us have anything to really lose but lots to potentially gain.

>>40765143
>Quoting Jesus stuff
Heeeyghhheg stop. But honestly, treat others as you'd like to be treated is one thing I always try to do.
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Is anamorelin/ON0-7643 the next big research chem/secretagogue? At the moment it looks like a better version of ibutamoren/MK-677 but with a shorter half life:
http://www.growthhormoneigfresearch.com/article/S1096-6374(08)00148-2/abstract
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>>40764963
>>40764963
Open communication. I was very upfront that I was broke af when planning dates. She made it clear she didn't mind paying (i refused twice before realizing she was seriously cool with paying for whatever).

That's how her buying clothes and gym and shit have gone. She offers I say no no no a few times until she's like "seriously Kahuna I want to do it" and then I say ok bae ilu.

Sorry if that's not helpful.

>>40765091
Someone asking for advice on talking to girls isn't about to start getting approached by hot girls left and right lezbehonest
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>>40765165
And you call yourself a bodybuilt
For shame
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Can someone give me a quick "for dummies" explanation of aromasin dose timing and rules?

Should I take it a few hours before the pin?

Do I need to take it with food?

Also, will my test levels go up after taking it, from less aromatization?
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>>40765128
I'm a couple states south of you currently but if things workout with work QT I'll definetly bring her up to the city to show her around where I grew up and all the cool stuff up there. I may contact you if you want to come chill with us for dinner or something but who knows when that'd be.

>>40765179
I mean that's fine but I honestly don't want her to pay for things that were my idea because she's probably having a hard time making ends meet as it is and I don't want to stress her out over my grandiose ideas.
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>>40765204
Just take 12.5mg eod, increase or decrease if necessary (probably won't be) .. Nothing else matters
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>>40765165
It's not 'Jesus stuff' it's a cultural ethic translated through a religious narrative.

Believe it or not your culture is derived from a background seeped in such 'Jesus stuff', there's no need to fear it or pretend someone is proselytizing you every time they quote a some piece of wisdom that happens to have the word God in it.
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>>40765202
Absorutery shamefurr dispray I sorry senpai.
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I'm 6 months into lifting. When would it be acceptable to start using steroids?
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>>40765283
Sounds like something a Jesus person would say.
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>>40765179
>Someone asking for advice on talking to girls isn't about to start getting approached by hot girls left and right lezbehonest
Uhhh reporting in.

Went from skinnyfat awkward loser to ripped awkward loser and haven't adapted yet. Literally run (read: clumsily speedwalking) away from girls kek.

Don't need advice though I'm basically in Peek's situation where I'm focusing moreso on self development before involving someone else.
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>>40765221
>come with us as we gaze at the cherry blossoms and into each others eyes
DEA plz

>>40765298
Its a lifestyle enhancement, so ince youre a dedicated bodybuilt
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>>40765303
Sounds like something a mild paranoiac would say.
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When do you guys notice an oral start having a significant effect?
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>>40765315
which "lifestyle enhancer" would you recommend?
Dianabol?
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I look like a manlet in my work gym selfies
I wonder why
Its a fate worse than death

>>40765381
Thats not what I meant at all and dbol is shit

Lifting for 6 mon? Doin ss? 30 mins in the gym 3x a week? Maybe you get 60g protein? Pathetic. You have to be dedicated to the lifestyle
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>>40765418
Aren't you a manlet though?

>Rest of the post
Reported. Stop ban evading Alex.
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>>40765434
Just barely, im 6ft

And dont compare me to him
Wow
Woooooooow
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>>40765453
inject directly into the vein and you will see major gains!
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>>40765233

Cool, thanks.

Just got bloods done, and my estro is sitting around 65 (can't remember units, reference range is 7-42).

I'm going to start with 12.5 mg on pin days (Monday morning and Thursday night). Should I also take some tonight to try to bring it down faster, or would that be overkill?
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>>40765453
If you're not trolling...
Go to a gym, or get a bench, and some free weights.
Dont even think about gear until you are diddly-ing more than 500, and you are over 27.
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>>40765540
wanna know how I know you're a natty cuck?
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>>40765540
What is diddly-ing?

And didn't Arnold start even younger than me? I don't see why not. Will try and find weights though, thanks!
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>>40765548
Not him, but how? The shitty standards?
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>>40765548
Yes.
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>>40765567
dead lifting
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>>40765569
it's only natties who put gear on a ridiculously high pedestal

"wait until 27" lmao, this thread has maybe one person over the age of 27 in it. most of the roiders here are in their late teens/early 20s

also the idea that you need to hit certain stats before roiding... you don't know how many people here don't even deadlift
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>>40764918
Post pics of forearm? Jealous af. I wish my wrists weren't so damn small.
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>>40765585
Well ive heard stuff like "roids make your muscles grow but not your tendons" the rational being that you need a base of structural strength. Ex: i only dl 365, if i got on gear i might hit 500 in a few months, but i would get injured easily due to not having slowly built up my joints and tendons.

Wrong?
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hmmmmmmm
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>>40765634
Damn brah, hurt? How tf you get it that bent? You siezure while injecting?
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>>40765634
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>>40765027
smaller but not little raisins yet
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>>40765627
Not entirely wrong but you're missing part of the picture.

It's not as significant a difference as you might think, and there's plenty of roids (nandrolone and boldenone in particular) that increase collagen synthesis. Add to that most of your tendons are capable of withstanding vastly more force than your muscles can produce as it is now. The jump in strength does present a window for injury but if you're not retarded and can see your limits you'll be fine.
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>>40765585
Roids are a step on the stairway to ascension. Skipping stairs will only cause you to trip, fall on your face and lose progress.
Analogies aside, if you're suggesting niggers start roids at 16, you can just fuck right off buddy. A person needs to know how to push themselves, or they'll think roids are a magic pill.
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>>40765688
Have a friend who has tren dick. How common is losing boners after quitting test? say 500mg
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>>40765705
.... arent they?
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>>40765598
I just have small hands

>>40765634
Whered you inject?
I do that to my shoulders often lol
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>>40765634
This is why you never fully insert the needle.

If it snaps you need to be able to pull it out somehow
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>>40765711
Pretty common the first few weeks. Should be back to normal after a month or two or you fucked up pct somehow
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>>40765787
Is this referring to the tren or test? My question is related to test (tren has to many side effects imo)
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>>40765817
Both cause shutdown, so both will have similar outcomes when cycling off.
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>>40765062
This a million times, I love my local ATFs.
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>>40765834
Ah now we get closer to the truth. What sort of problems are we looking at if someone doesnt cycle? Low (300-400) doses all year long, basically if you start taking 350 a week at 20, you take 35 a week till you die. I believe george leeman recommends this, until he said it id never even considered it
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>>40765852
>>40765062
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>>40765866
At first I thought you were that bot that shows up occasionally, work on your posts dude.

Plenty of people have recovered after coming off, I'd say the majority do. At the very least there's a study with nearly 2000 participants that went off without pct, and every single one regained fertility within 24 months.

The only advice you should take from Leeman is advice on deadlift assistance work.
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>>40765945
Sorry, new to /fit, usually only post on /b
And I dont want to come off, I want to ride the gain train into eternity
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>>40765866
>>40765945
Or if you're asking about long-term use, there's lots of ways to do it.

>BnC
Large doses of various compounds followed by a 'cruise' phase with lowish test doses to 'recover'

>Powercruise
Friendly compounds in medium doses run for long periods of time. This would be your 350mg/week test e. Also seen 150-250/150-250/300-400 test/deca/eq recommended as a long term 'cruise' occasionally.

>Permablast
Yolo pin whatever whenever. Think Munzer.
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>>40766001
>Think Munzer
I want to live long enough to enjoy my gains
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>>40766001
if you actually want to do cruising or permablasting for godsakes dont leave your cardio behind.

you dont want to die from an enlarged heart in your thirties.
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Experiences with intermittent fasting while cutting on test? Looking at leangains. Fatloss as stalled.
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>>40766015
>I want to live
Never gonna make it
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>>40765308
IME being totally focused on self improvement will get you more pussy than anything else. When I'm staying clean, working a good job, and focusing on school and gym every girl I meet is interested.

Smh
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Does /fraud/ have any tattoos? I kinda want to get something done but I have no idea what
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Banned for saying I was 16 in my troll post, kek.

Anyway I dropped down to cruise test from blast a couple weeks ago and I've noticed my pressing strength has gone down.

I understand this is just how it works when it comes to exogenous hormone but I was wondering what compounds, if any, have more 'keepable' gains?
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>>40766052
It's almost like women prefer stable, attractive males that could potentially care for a future child. Who would have guessed.
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>>40766140
this shouldn't happen desu, atleast not when you're bulking.
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>>40766155
Women also prefer some tatted up drug dealer bad boy so your point is moot
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>>40766183
I'm not bulking, but I haven't cut calories sharply enough for this much of an effect.

But I'm definitely not the only one this happens too, I remember Pete Rubish talking about his bench receeding when going into cruise not too long ago.
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>>40766155
I was trying to emphasize that women prefer guys who are not seeking women. Reread my post and I didn't really make that clear.
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>>40766218
M8 I dont know a single girl from college who graduated to go bang some tatted up drug dealer. Most woman want stability.

Dont get too redpilled.
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>>40766239
Yeah but instead you managed to reveal another truthism
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>>40766249
You're disputing womens attraction to bad boys? Are you a virgin?
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How long does Tren A take to give your body the "tren look"? First time with short compounds so wondering if its faster
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>>40766341
Lol yes the bad boy image worked great for me actually. In fucking high school.

My point its not like all women are secretly drooling over risk takers. Like Kahuna said about him being well off and stable and attracting woman. No succesful attractive and non-STD devoured girl with a good family, you know, the kind you might actually want to date, is going to start fucking some Fox-hat wearing GED dude slinging coke. Its not going to happen.

Nice quip tho mate stay mad with your life.
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>>40766249
They all got 17 sugar daddies and married the richest guy with the fattest cock they could find

>>40766074
Get a tat of you're waifu
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Used to use deca and a little test every now and then in high school to help with football.

One of my buddies was always the one measuring and sticking me cause he knew wtf he was doing.

I wanna use some small doses of test just to help with adding some strength and maybe helping with my summer cut.

Any advice on dosage and what cycle to run for that half natty effect?
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>>40766532
What'd you look like in high school and what do you look like now? JW what young roiders look like, general consensus is don't start til 25. I was 21 when I started; have you had any side effects?
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you still doin g4p bimbo?
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>>40766379
I also wanna know this, starting my first tren cycle in mid/ late may and wanna know if I'll be lookin joocy by July
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What do I inject to become the Ultimate Warrior

https://youtu.be/cF4ZTcuhixc
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So I wanted to ask again because I didn't find my answer on r/steroids

If I'm a super skeleton and roid, then stop but continue working out can I get that initial bulk and muscle to stay permanently? I am way too embarrassed to go to the gym with the way i look.
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>>40766669
No. Stop being a fucking pussy go lift and put on 30 pounds
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>>40766697

i'll do it
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>>40766669
>too embarrassed for self improvement
Its over, feminism won

Honestly, just get fat. You dont know anything about lifting so roids are a bad idea. But normies barely know the difference between fat and muscle so go get fat and go in the gym with your chin up
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>>40766718
but this anon >>40766697 told me to stop being a fucking pussy and lift i can't not do it now
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>>40766733
Just go to the gym and lift hard
No one will judge you
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>>40766769
i will grow to love the burn
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>>40766769
I secretly judge newbies that don't know what they're doing. Especially skeletons.

It's illogical because I was there once. But still, fucking weak skellys get out of mah free weights.
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>>40766796
I want to grow out of my skeletal form so I too can judge other skeletons
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>>40766796
Honestly my injury and talking in the gym changed my whole outlook
Some weak people have some real experience
Just life, ya know?

>>40766793
Cumming day and night
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>>40766847
goodnight

t. skeleton anon
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>>40766969
Youre going to bed before hitting the gym for the day?!
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What the fuck this is the same person.
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>struggle with acne my whole life despite washing my face 3x/day

>start my first cycle

>acne goes away completely no matter what I do

what kind of fucking memes was i digesting all this time?
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>>40766580
Always
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>>40766502
>roiding for that
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>>40767682
>implying you wouldn't
jerry is a sexy beast
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>>40767539
Taking an AI? Still washing your face 3x a day for some reason?

>>40767682
Puhlees. Jerry is the joociest accountant one can wish for.
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>>40767682
You mad, you mirin, you jelly?
You mad.
You mirin.
You jelly.

>>40767539
Probably had messed up hormones before but you regulate them now

>>40767758
Are you calling me autistic

>youll never snipe frowny face watermelons
Why live
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so friday i got the first zit of my test cycle right on my lip so it looked like herpes. i freaked because my piece had set up a threeway for saturday and i didn't want the third getting cold feet about it.. i went to Sephora and bought concealer pen (Cover FX) which is basically a really high end version of tinted oxy. Applied that, went to bed, next day shit was dried up and i just flicked the head off and it was gone. fucking amazing man. never had acne go away so fast.

threesome went smoothly. i lost a solid hour of fuck time because i hadnt planned on a hotel in advance and had to fumble around installing a stupid 3rd party app (hotel tonight) in order to get a rate that was not pure rape. i would recommend not making that mistake.

if you guys have never had your dick sucked by two girls at once, you gotta try it. it's fucking amazing. visually and the feel of it are so cash.. I knew it was going to be awesome, but i didn't realize it would be *that* awesome. Like when the girls are trying to kiss, but your cock keeps intruding in the middle saying "me too!".
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>>40765169
why did that link try to redirect me. is that some malware shit
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>>40765204
>Do I need to take it with food?
yes, fats. do your reading faggot, it's your tits that will grow, not mine.
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Work QT suggested I read a book about cadavers. Not sure how to feel about this.

>>40767797
>my piece
Wut
We're you the guy who posted about the TFM threesome from tinder a couple days ago?

>>40767794
>Are you calling me autistic
Of course not. Now help me with taxes please.
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>>40767797
Had a foursome with a t girl and two other hunnies Friday. It's just okay. Not my ex so meh.
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>>40767856
no, this just happened last night. it was two females.
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>>40767856
Just read pub17 you fucc boi
And im not an accountant lol
I deal with federal compliance often relating to taxes

>tfw reporting cpas to the oig

>>40767865
Im so mad jealous im sick

How big was the trannies dick? I thought trannies were supposed to have small dicks but theyve all been much larger
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>>40767856
>Work QT suggested I read a book about cadavers.
just some bitch pretending to be smart and edgy, nothing more

she wants you to fuck her though

>>40767865
isn't that just an orgy??

and how feminine was her ben15
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If i BnC for a year or two am I going to be permanently sterile afterwards?
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>>40768136
obviously
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>>40768136
Nah.
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How many bodybuilders are just on a permanent cruise or do they all do cycles? Does anyone here do that?
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>>40768136
Hopefully.
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>>40766573
I'm far right.

Only side effect I ever got in high school was just being huge and full looking all the time.

Deca was all I could've ever asked for and more though. That shit took me from a big boy to an athlete.

The only side effect I had after I got off was extreme chronic knee pain. Went to my doctor and found out it was patellar tendinitis. The deca was decreasing inflammation so much that I never ever knew I had it.

It went away after a few months though. Only have it when I squat with bad form now.

My test is also pretty good still. Always 900+ when I go to the doctor. If I had to do it again, I would've done more.
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>>40766573
This is me about a week ago in my first ever cut. I'm down about 35 lbs from high school. With a little loss to lifts but not considerable.

I think gear at high school age, when cycled right, only helps. It laid a foundation of muscle on that I'm not having to bust my ass for at a later age.
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>doing some steron related shitposting while work is slow
>boss comes in, nagging about some inane problem he could fix himself in less time than it takes him to even tell me
>go full retard and tell him to fucking up his AI
He just wrote it off as millenial slang for calming down apparently, but ffs this is literally the fraud equivalent of a /b/tard calling mom a nigger kek

>>40769507
Not too impressive yet (no offense) but a pretty solid foundation for some thiccness right there.
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>>40769507
nip piercing or were you lactating mid-selfie
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If I have
Total test: 460 ng/dl
Bioavailable test: 230 ng/dl
(26 y o natty)

Should I do anything?

It's within the normal range, but still...
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>>40770000
mirin digits

also not really sure if to cringe or laugh at this, gonna do both just to be sure
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>>40764437
Educate me on prohormones like Trenavar, please?
Are they worth the buy for a first cycle as a youngling (18yo), instead of straight test?
Hear they don't fuck your endocrine system as bad, but are more toxic for your liver.
How much can you tell me about them?
Do you need the same PCT as for injectable?
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>>40770553
trenavar is basically less effective oral tren with all the sides of tren. running it is equivalent to running tren on its own, all sides included plus more (hepatotoxity due to its oral form)

still need prolactin control to not develop tits and you still get shutdown (so yes you still need to pct)

please stop being scared of the needle
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Is it worth paying 25 bucks to get your balls waxed? or should I try doing it myself?

why the fuck do men's waxing cost so much more than women anyway? thank god I have practically no hair on my ass area.
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>>40770553
All of the sides and none, or only negligible amounts, of the gains. Overshilled garbage. Prohormones used to be something worth considering years ago (still shite but somewhat useful shite), but by now they have no merit anymore. The good stuff is banned and hard to get, the available stuff is gay and fake, just pin test, faggot.
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>>40764888
Pls
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>>40764624
bumping for interest. do they even care?
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>>40770683
go to coinbase
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>>40770642
>>40770670

Not scared of the needle, at all, have considered injectable peptides and also test.
But one of me gym buddies told me that he's gonna run Trenavar (The banned fomr), as it's better for young people around the 18 mark, because test fucks you for good.

So you're saying oral prohormones do all the sides, but just a fraction of the gains and still need PCT?
Is test-e 300mg/week with PCT a good idea for an 18 yo who wants to hop on?
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>>40770762
People should stop going out of their way to avoid tried and tested PEDs and get their panties in a bunch over whatever alternative they get shilled into. Some are cool, some are not as bad as I make it seem, some are complete garbage.
Not counting peptides cause some of them are silly fun indeed, kek

As for your question, I am the kind of oldschool faggot that tells people to wait with roiding until they have dialed in nutrition and training to a degree, but I kinda stand alone with that recently, so just wait for one of the yolofriends to post and ask them for advice :^)
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>>40770833
I would consider myself expirienced in nutrition and training, and I'd like to see what roids do to me, to know if I have a chance to compete as a teen, in my last two years.
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>>40770920
300-500mg for 16-20 weeks
AI
proper PCT
read the wiki before actually doing shit
eat big lift big

not same guy but this is no magic tbH
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>>40770762
>test fucks you for good.
i've been on 4chan for 8 years and this is the dumbest thing i've ever read
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>>40770920
You're not experienced. You're 18 and still listening to whatever broscience your lifting buddies spout off. You're on the right path but plz listen to these anons
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>>40764624
I told my GP about my plan to use gear and he basically gave it the OK. I joked "knowing my luck they probably won't work on me" and he just looked at me deadly serious and said "ohh, they will."

Said the only real concern from his perspective is the risk of blood-borne infections from sharing needles, but we both laughed at that as he knows I'm not a fucking idiot.

He also explained his job as a doctor is to protect people's wellbeing. End of story. If you're on gear, they'll gladly do regular bloodwork to keep everything in check, and print out copies for you to look up levels yourself. I post mine on various forums for advice - partly to check certain levels are where they should be, partly to prove gear isn't bunk. Showing absurdly high test levels is always a nice sign your gear is what it says it is.

Think of it this way - does a doctor help an obese person who has all the related health issues? Does a doctor help a smoker who is dying of cancer? Does a doctor help a person who's flown of a motorbike when going way too fast for the conditions? Of course. Primum non nocere - First do no harm.

Worth noting too, steroid use is perfectly legal in the UK, and we as brothers must fight this ridiculous stigma around them by being open and honest about their use, if to no one else then at least to medical professionals.
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>>40771748
Dunno if my Dr will be as chill but thanks for the info bro
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>>40767915
>bitch pretending to be smart and edgy,
She is actually smart but doesn't boast it which is refreshing and she's probably the least edgy girl I've met in a while.

>she wants you to fuck her
Shes so much smaller than me I'm a little afraid I may accidentally hurt her but we'll just have to take it slow.

>>40767899
>cpas to the oig
DRAIN THE SWAMP
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Might not be the right place to ask, but if i were to order Clenbutrol and Trenorol from Crazybulk, can I expect it to help my cut? or is it just a big meme?
Every review I find seem to be by crazybulk themselves
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>>40772089
For good reason. That shit is pure, concentrated garbage.
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>>40772098
Thank you kind sir
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>it's another episode of my canadian source being absolute shit and getting BTFO on sst

When will this torture end?
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>>40772201
no it isn't you ape

nothing has happened in days
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>>40772262
There's a thread from yesterday where he fucked up

look at them "500mg test/week = 634ng/dl"
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>>40772296
hey I actually missed that, my apologies

when will it end
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>>40772324
hopefully this is the last straw and he no longer sources there
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>>40772370
sadly it doesn't solve the problem of the lack of sources

that would leave us with one and a half source, one that pretty much only has test E and a new source that seems to be having trouble keeping up with the volume of orders they're getting

I'm this close to starting to homebrew
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>>40772512
JUST
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What's your guys experience with using Cialis to train? I got a good source and im curious
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>>40771804
He has a duty to be "chill" about it. End of story. If not he can get struck off the medical register.

He might advise against it, but you can then ask for valid reasons as to why - if he gives any verifiable and cited reasons then let us know ASAP, because it will be huge news for steroid users as so far nothing concrete has come up to show proper use is dangerous.

What he cannot do is simply say "you're making a mistake, you're on your own to fuck yourself up". Quite the opposite - he's more inclined to offer stuff like bloodwork if you give him reason to believe it might be needed, which by saying you're using steroids you are

For the record, my GP is a partner at a large practice which is rated "Outstanding" by the Quality Care Commission. He also has over 25 years service and an unblemished record. So if he can act like this, any other doctor can and should too.

The key is to be honest, lay out what you're doing, and even explain how you're doing it safely (AIs, PCT, HCG, etc). The only reason a doctor has good reason to be a bit funny with you is if you're being funny with him - dodging the issue and not being upfront.
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I WANT TO DO TREN.
Lift is too short to be a faggot ass bitch.

I hate pinning ED, is it mandatory to run tren A, or would i be fine with E ?

Also, even tho tren is known to cause milk tits, so many people dont even need to run caber or prami and say they had no issues at all with that.

is it a meme or nah? I dont want to end up with lactating tits just because i didnt have caber on hand.


>one that pretty much only has test E
thats all you need
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>>40772611
and that asin is enough to take care of estro sides
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How fucked will I look if I come off roids now right before summer.

Backne and flabby I'm sure. Fug
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>>40772611
.5 ml of tren every other day 300 test e . Nothing huge but I had zero estrogen/milk sides and just sweated like a pig. Sleep was meh. Never felt fully tested but never affected me that bad. Huge strength gains. Did 10 weeks. Then cruised. Also bump>>40772554
because I'm 30 minutes away from ordering
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>>40772669 I didn't even dose ai or caber. No need at all.
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>>40772611
that's like asking whether you should have an AI on hand because so many don't need any on 500mg test a week. don't be a dumb newbie about this, you know better.

tren e is fine in general, the problem is that for a first cycle when you don't know how you will react to it it's a lot more troublesome. takes weeks to properly get out of your system and you have to deal with the tapering of the ester too. if you're gonna go in headfirst with no dopamine agonist then it's even worse
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Hey what do you guys think about transdermal trest.
Thinking about running it with my current 100mg anadrol 600mg test e
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>>40772755
transdermal shit is... shit. terrible absorption rates, more expensive.

why not pin it? just don't want to pin every day?
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>>40772692
No its not the same thing. This isnt about wether or not there is a possibility of me not needing any prami or caber. This is about, wether or not Asin can take care of the prolactin sides of tren or not.

If you read this: https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/myth-buster-prolactin-tren-deca.134345887/

It basically states, that prolactin only gets an issue on tren, alongside with HIGH e2.
Meaning there is no need to worry about prolactin aslong as you run Asin/adex, because as that link states, prolactin is no danger aslong as e2 is in check.

Im fine with it tapering off. I just want to experience le epic mythical tren effects once in my life and get dat dere tren confidence, dat dere tren jaw, dat dere tren dryness, dat dere tren gains, dat dere tren pheromones that magically attract females (kek).

Will tren E take 4 weeks for full effect just like test, or does it work differently for tren?

>>40772669
hmm sounds good, what tren ester tho?
tell me, what did you experience regarding le ebin mythical tren effects that i have written above. Experienced any of those?

>no ai
ur lucky, i need 45mg Asin on my 500mg test blast alone and im still bloated
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>>40772807
Transdermal from where I was looking was a bit cheaper. I might just get an oral one from a sketchy ph place and say Fuck it. Just using it as a pre workout.
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>>40772834
>transdermal as pre workout
With the absorption rate of some of them, might need to apply it post workout of the day before to have it ready for the next one kek
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>>40772811
>This is about, wether or not Asin can take care of the prolactin sides of tren or not.
it can't

basically high e2 amplifies greatly the risk of prolactin sides, but having e2 within range doesn't mean you won't experience high prolactin.

the tapering matters because what happens if you can't handle tren sides? I already remember you being a little bitch just from high estro, what if the tren aggression actually fucks you up? what it you can't stand the trensomnia? trendick/milky tits because for some reason you don't want to buy caber?
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>>40772886
or if you develop glands like glands and it takes 4 weeks for the tren to leave your bloodstream :^)
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> experimenting with pot for the first time recently
> good for sex and definitely increases appetite
> connecting unrelated concepts makes sense until someone asks you to explain
> seems to have short-term tolerance, the first couple hits induce paranoia and come on hard, gone in a couple hours, then later takes many hits to produce an effect w/ no paranoia
> definitely increases hearing sensitivity, it is as if all sounds slightly audible within a mile are loud, clear, and in the room with you
> was listening to the mice run around through the walls, then a car alarm went off outside, and general things that don't mix well with paranoia
> the detail in music is enhanced greatly, I opened a piano app and suddenly felt I could 'make music' but being high it was probably garbage

Really, though, it's not too far-fetched that the main difference between a programmer and a musician is 2 g of weed. Pot heads have no concept of the metric system but it's about $5-$10/g street, $20/g for 'the good shit' if that even exists. To find a source, make a black friend.

Not sure how it affects lifting but I can say for sure -- do not drive while high. It's worse than 20 beers.
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>>40772988
>Not sure how it affects lifting

in my case it made me forget/remember wrong how many reps and sets i had done, doing way too many and wondering why i was so spent afterwards
>tfw accidental GVT
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Steroids aren't illegal here so why can't I ask for a source??????
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>>40773088
because 4chan follows united states laws
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>>40772886
So i shouldnt trust dat link i posted?

I dont wanna buy it because im a poorfag and 50€ for one fucking bottle of caber, 8 pills a 0.5mg is fucking nuts. FUCKING NUTS. What the fuck is that price nigger.

yes high e2 was fucking hell. I was a depressed nagging beta bitch ass pussy faggot. Never again.

>>40772953
now you got me. I think this is a joke but not having prolactin in check cant actually cause fucking glands, right?

I would rather jump off a bridge than face the same fate as swollen glands
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>>40773088
4chan is based in the united states. Gee I wonder why

do you also ask why all WoW private servers are in eastern europe?
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>>40773119
look into generic caber from Indian/Turkish pharmacies, I get mine at 40 dollars for 20mg.

tren has a chance of making you a lot crazier than high e2 ever did, which is partly why tren a is recommended, but honestly tren e won't kill you if you insist on going that direction. I seriously hope you get caber though.

and yes the glands thing was a joke, he's a mystery of modern science. but he did think it was the tren at one point and it took 4 weeks for him to eliminate that possibility because he was using tren e
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>>40773119
I did tren e first, it's cool. Fuck daily pinning.

Honestly tren side effects are the most overhyped shit ever. I cringe when I read about "muh rage, muh paranoia, muh trannies"

Having caber is smart but if you're poor UGL prami is a safe bet since the raws for it are dirt cheap.

Tren really is an excellent hormone although like most steroids the effects themselves are greatly overhyped (to be fair I've never run it over 500/wk though)
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>>40773414
the thing is personal response is very very different for everyone. I also never experienced tren rage or paranoia, but it's mentioned so much that I can't imagine it being all placebo. I'm sure it's very real for many people (just look at bimbo).

the sexual thing was very very real for me however. never been hornier and sexually dominant than I was on tren
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>>40773335
Generic Indian pharma meds are life

Also poor glandsy, he seems like a good dude and having that shit going on would fuck up any of us shallow narcissists.

>>40773444
I have yet to find a compound that puts me into sexual overdrive. Mast, proviron, tren were all meh (although I didn't give mast a proper run).

I really think estro has a lot more to do with rage and libido than anything else
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I have a surprise business trip next week. I leave this Sunday night, and come back Thursday night.

I'm currently pinning Test E Monday morning and Thursday night.

I will be traveling my boss and I'm guessing sharing the same hotel room.

What do I do about the Monday pin? Pin Sunday instead? Really don't want to risk losing a job because I had to try and sneak a syringe and a vial in my check-in luggage.

It will be a stressful week so I just want to make sure my hormone levels are as even as possible. Gonna throw the Asin in with my vitamins.
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>>40773532
if you're going to be off on 1 day its not a biggie desu. especially not on test e.
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>>40773613
Yea I don't think I have much of a choice anyways. Too much to risk bringing it and I would be super anxious.
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>>40773532
Yeah just pin on Sunday.
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>TFW bought some gear from a source that is now shitlisted

Should I just throw it out and not pin it?
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>>40773700
depends on why they were shit listed

I'm sure you can figure it out
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fuk. propecia takes 3 months before it starts doing anything?
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>>40773885
Yo don't take it, it fucked me up pretty badly.
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>>40773897
ytho
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>>40773897
How so? I really like my hair. I know it messes up your dick. Should I just stop taking it?

Because propecia only delays hair loss right? if you're going to lose hair anyway, propecia just gives you a few more years? That's how I understand it anyway.

If that's the case, I guess I should stop taking it and accept hair loss if that's in my future. There's no use getting a limp dick just for 2 more years with hair.
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>>40773885
>>40773897
I won't fuck with finasteride. The clinical trial funded by the drug company shows sexual adverse effects ranging from 2.1% to 38%. Not 2.1 to 3.8. Two point one to thirty-eight.

Seem like a wide variance to you? It's obvious this drug needs to be researched more.
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>>40774048
Merck developed propecia. that's the company that developed Vioxx which is now withdrawn due to safety concerns. i won't take drugs made by Merck until they are well studied
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>>40773335
im a faggot and only buy from my NL source which is a neighbour country. im scared to buy anything overseas/out of EU

i see a difference between tren craziness and high e2.
high e2 was just me being a depressed sad little beta bitch boy.

unless you mean the same thing.

well yes i now i dont want to run tren anymore without the caber, but that shit is so fucking expensive its fucking NUTS.

How long would that bottle last me? (8 tabs, a 0.5mg). Would it be enough for 10 weeks of 400mg tren?

>>40773414
dude seriously, its the same WITH EVERY DRUG.
It doesnt matter what it is. its always the same.
>try weed bro, you will have lucid dreams and laugh all the time and feel like you are in love

>try shrooms bro, you will travel the universe with that shit and it will be life changing brah

>get roids bro, shits magic bro. you dont even have to lift bro, you just grow grow grow

every single fucking time i was dissapointed, and at this point i just fucking know that all those tren myths are not true either.
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>>40774095
>Vioxx
also nicknamed stroke in a bottle lmao
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>>40774122
>>you dont even have to lift bro, you just grow grow grow
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>>40773897
>>40774048

I read lots of evidence that dead dick from finasteride is a meme. The people who experience that shit were literally tested and they had normal DHT levels.

>>40773973
if propecia is finasteride then no afaik. Some people regrow their hair on finasteride, its pretty strong bro.

honestly i would rather take finasteride than go bald
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>>40774122
>How long would that bottle last me? (8 tabs, a 0.5mg). Would it be enough for 10 weeks of 400mg tren?
it's recommended to do 0.5mg twice a week when you start noticing sides
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>>40774165
>honestly i would rather take finasteride than go bald
and yet you refuse to take accutane and prefer being covered in acne

you're a weird dude
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>>40774198
that would be a good point if i was actually covered in acne.

but im not, pic related.

thats not severe enough for me to get accutane
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>>40774165
>I read lots of evidence that dead dick from finasteride is a meme.
And where is that evidence and who is it published by? Merck?
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Does taking AI cause the total test to go up, since less is being converted to estrogen?
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>>40774322
no
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>TFW scared of getting shit gear and having to get part of my thigh cut out

How do you guys cope with this feel?
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>>40774236
What are you running?

I thought you were natty :(
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Ever notice if any specific compounds give you a more positive mood and energy besides test?
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>>40774236
what do u do 4 shoulders cunt ill glass u rudeboy
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>>40774364
what makes you think im natty? apart from my DYEL body obviously.

currently 3 months into my first blast, 500mg test e.

there is no point in being natty if you have shit genetics. I need ways to cope with myself
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>>40774236
Abs lagging big time.
Also I have a feeling that you dont work out your legs,just a feeling.
Other than that nice progress considering you've been lifting for 2 years only.
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>>40774398
Deca
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>>40774422
I saw your pic in a CBT and never assumed you were on gear, have you got a before and after roids pic?

u look gud btw, no homo.
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>>40764437
To the moron in the last thread commenting on me saying D-meth, when having mentioned I was prescribed adderall, I meant pure Dextromethamphetamine.

Adderall is an amphetamine racemic mix in favor of Dextroamphetamine (Not dextromethamphetamine, that I switched to at same dosage.)

Anyways, in my uneducated opinion, when taken orally in what's considered a therapeutic dosage is relatively safe for a few years without long-term damage and that Dextrometh is a less "hard" drug than regular adderall, as it feels like I'm not on anything; it's very clean with no physical side effects.

On a different note, I deadlifted 700lbs yesterday and I'm one step closer to my goal of a korean qt; the reason why I take all these steroids and lift heavy weights.

I hope it's not in vain ;_;
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>>40774436
hmm, what dose did you run it at? I was probably going to pick up 15g or so and run 300mg/wk alongside test and maybe mast.
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Looking to do a 8 week prop/var/t3 cutting cycle. Anyone got any links to information on how long your thyroid takes to return to normal levels? ty.
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>>40774474
200 a week, but I'm not that big. Mast is great, but I actually got the rage today.
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>tfw friends on fb share your ig just to talk about how big you are
And my ex called me skinny ha
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>>40774400
DB shoulder press, with elbows pointing forwards, not sideways.

>>40774442
i dont know why, but i always end up looking natty in my pics. prolly because i make all my pics in shitty direct sun lighting.
i look vastly different irl tho. i had like a dozen people ask my friends if im on gear in the gym.. my entire school class is making steroids jokes about me.

pic related looks abit more "roidy".

im only 3 months into my blast, not enough to look roided up
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>>40774236
thicc
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>>40774615
roidingforthis.jpg
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>>40774431
my abs are not that lagging, im just fat and bloated

I indeed, do not train my legs. I have some leg thickness left from my years of parkour/martial art/doing flips and all kinds of shit so they dont look too retardely small currently.
I also hate training legs

cough 1 year 8 months to be exact.
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>>40774615
Chest looks great m8 good work.
I definitely look more "on steroids" in person too.
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Worth taking low dose halo? I see numerous studies on teenagers and children saying 2.5-5mg are safe for even long times.
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>>40774398
>tfw no cross eyed gf
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W2C injectable oxytocin and dopamine so I don't have to actually fall in love constantly to get these feels? Don't say rec drugs because I'm not.

>>40774723
I don't think she's cross eyed
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>>40774618
thx
>>40774657
:c

>>40774674
nice and thats coming from you. yeah its prolly just the lighting but i look way more shredded and veiny irl
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i'm 19 and on trt I have noticed that my face is getting more angular despite gaining weight, is this expected?
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>>40774778
One eye bigger than the other or something.

Something's off
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>>40775166
>Something's off
gotta love those slight imperfections breh
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>>40772577
Thanks for the help, I appreciate the encouragement!
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>>40773444
>just look at bimbo
Bimbo is a fucking moron. It's not the drugs, he's just incapable of making good decisions regardless
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>>40770007
it's fucking toothpaste splatter on the mirror lmao
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>done 3 cycles
>tfw achieved decent physique
>can bang any snapchat sloot anytime i want

>cant be happy without the roidpump and the feeling of being "on"

blessing with a curse
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>>40775414
the blessing overshadows the curse
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Last resort reached

Going for biopsy before i start corticosteroids (apparently they will fuck up results of the biopsy)

Gonna end this blast and start getting bloodwork normal because i might have to get surgery. Fuck the ones under my jaw or whatever it will be good enough getting the parotids out, maybe sublinguals
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>>40775526
gib left over gh pls

gl though, this shit has been ruining your life for the past year it seems like.
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>tfw you get rejected over text so you use the anger to destroy prs
it's an ambiguous kind of feel
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>>40774179
No

.25mg 2x a week
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>>40775704
Your fault for asking her out via text, I only use it for setting up plans for stuff or to ask a quick question. Face to face only for asking out unless you're doing a tinder ONS. I've never liked talking to people I personally know about serious shit through text.
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>>40774668
You have a small frame. How much do you weigh?
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>>40775784
200 lbs.

halph of that is fat and water
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>>40766623
Goal body

Is this the tren look or this like loads of eq?
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>>40775800
I can tell you're not even close to that. Maybe a buck fifty, if that. Manlets smH
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>>40775772
it's a Tinder date I had sex with yesterday

asked her out for a 2nd date (i.e. hookup) and said no
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>>40775873
nah im 198lbs brah

5'11"

as i said previously, i look bigger in person and more "roidy"
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>>40775892
Lmao. I guess she didn't like the sex. As far as I'm concerned no love lost with tinder dates.

If you want consistency find an actual QT and date her.
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>>40775976
No. You're not.

Fuck all your'I look bigger in person', that's literally what Blaha says. I can tell from the size of your hands and head you're not that big by far. Try again.
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>>40776028
what is wrong with people like you.

what reason do i have to lie to an anonymous faggot on a tiberian wool farming forum you homongous faggot.
Its not that i even care about you or wether or not you believe me, but i seriously get triggered when i see retarded stubborn mongoloids like you. fkn lmao i can only imagine how you are irl

And the fact that i look bigger in person is...a fact. I literally get called out for roids all the time in my gym. Indirectly that is.
Opinion disregarded, consider jumping off a bridge
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>tfw me on the left
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>>40776080
>what reason do i have to lie to an anonymous faggot on a tiberian wool farming forum you homongous faggot.
That's a good question.

What reason do you have to tripfag and lie on an anonymous forum?

>I literally get called out for roids all the time in my gym. Indirectly that is.
Kek
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>>40776109
>tfw me on the right
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>>40776109
>>40776136
oh thou world why is thou so cruel
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>>40776150
Wonder if that guy has any joint issues. He's got like photoshop-broad shoulders
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>>40774687
5mg might be a bit too conservative but it definitely has merits even at low doses yup
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>>40776174
I wonder if the guy on the right has any depression issues since he looks like a fucking subhuman
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>>40775335
thought so but i kekd hard at the flawless positioning of it so i had to ask
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>>40776206
Have you ever been outside?

Much more common to see guys like him than the giant shoulders guy.
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How often do you days give blood. I hate getting blood drawn. Can't imagine a bog ole gallon. Ugh. Do you get queasy.
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>>40776276
I guess it depends where you live, this is your average Swedish male

also being average doesn't cut it
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>>40776287
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>>40776287
I hate needles and stuff, passed out just from having my BP taken lol
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>>40776291
It's below average for sure, just not as far from the mean as the other guy is.

No way that's average, maybe your average 7/10 swede lol
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third day back on 400 instead of 600
what a fucking difference
had to ask my brother if it was this cold last night
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>>40776182
Have you ran it low dose? I was thinking 10-20mg for the added androgenic value instead of my permanent tren blasting.
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>>40776791
yes, 25mg. dat dere androgenic value you correctly speak of, plus a (however also a bit placebo) very light strength bonus, little to no sides in comparison to usual dosing, I loved it. who'd have thought something as notorious as halo might really have QoL benefits when not ran at yolo dosages kek
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>>40776791
>>40776882
*15mg. not 25.
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>>40766001
Totally dude. If all you run is test you are in very safe territory.

Studies show test cycles of 500mg per week doesn't negatively effect a person. Bloodwork is fine.

Add in certain other compounds and this changes.

Test alone is so easy to control. Sides are easy to manage. I get no sides at all except oiler skin.

Test fuxking rules!

Ten year test veteran chiming in.

By a big bag of raw test e and cruise for life.

Stay hungry, stay hard!
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>>40777095
i want to be able to homebrew but i legitimately can't because well muh parents.
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>>40770553
Prohormones are for faggots. Fuck that pussy crap.

First cycle testosterone. Maybe add eq or deca.

You do this son and you will get 2 years gains in 3 months. I fucking guarantee it.
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Been struggling to break 4500 cal a day. Weight stalled around 232lbs.

Would adding another 300-400cal of fat be acceptable? I could accomplish this by making no dietary changes besides switching to whole milk so that would be easy for me. Shoving any more chicken in my mouth sounds unappealing.

Already getting 250g protein. Would a carb or fat source be better? I don't claim to be Mr. Nutrition so pls no bully.
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ok so i get a biopsy of my lip this thursday and then next thursday one of my stupid ass fucking gland

then i (hopefully) immediately start corticosteroids

the biopsy will hopefully show what the fuck is causing it. or at least the nature of the inflammation, like autoimmune or what.
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>>40777191
More protein. More carbs. But you can definitely use more protein than that with the amount of gear you use.

Just do casein shakes with oats or something. Getting more calories is easy.
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>>40777219
I already do blended oats, whey, milk, and peanut butter every morning.

But yeah I figured adding a casein shake at night with skim milk is probably the way to go. I just don't like drinking that shit right before bed.

Oh well gotta get big.
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here homos, one mega-sized pic for you since I just got back from the airport and still have to censor the rest. No video, sorry chaps, but good news is she'll be moving in permanently with me within 2-4 weeks so I'll get one then, or eventually shortly after that.

probably won't be posting for a while after the other pics lads, so much to do between school, work, and immigration paperwork it's ridiculous. Good luck getting yuge
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>>40777276
Post other pics Slav pls
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>>40777276
im happy for you bro
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Damnit work QT is 3 about to be 4 years older than me. Never thought I'd be dating an older girl but may be good since she's more mature than others.

>>40776882
Sounds Bueno. I'll probably pick up a gram.
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>>40777276
Gj son. pls give link to uncensored dropbox :)
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>>40777329
please do. you'll not regret it.
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>>40777276
Very happy for you my friend, good luck with all your endeavors including the relationship.

Kahuna201 at tutanota dot com
If you ever want to chat
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>>40777380
>you'll not regret it.
Only thing that scares me is the hepatoxicity. Just read some guys saying they had liver pain from even low doses after a couple weeks.
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>>40777436
get some tudca.
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>>40777440
Nah I'll just forget about it if I have to take tudca. I thought it'd be okay since they give it to kids for delayed puberty and micropenis (penii?) But I guess I'll stick to proviron and other orals
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>>40777436
should be fine at lower doses, they give it to middle schoolers for therapeutic use ffs. but i am not really anecdotal evidence to go by, i have a liver of steel, if you're scared, there's better qol androgenics lol
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>>40777506
>better qol androgenics
What do you suggest? Inb4 m-tren I'm running mDHT and proviron right now on top of my injectables.
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>>40770027
What do you mean "do anything" ?
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>>40777570
kek I literally meant those two. proviron especially gets a bad rep, but you can stuff yourself full of that shit and it only gets better.
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Anyone here use tor? Package got seized by customs, cannot order 'coupons' from this source anymore.
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>>40773973

No sides here. Beware nocebo.

>>40774048

I'd be curious to see detailed results from the specific trial that had 38% rate

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/
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>>40777204
why haven't you just ended it already?
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>>40777630
Ran like 500mg+/day for a while but damn it's expensive at that dose compared to other compounds. mDHT at 50-70mg
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>>40777276
Remove finger, insert babby
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Working a labor job this summer.

Lots of.overtime but it's 10+ hours a day digging holes and shoveling mulch and shit. Leaves me tired for workouts.

What do I inject to be able to work all day but still have some intensity in the gym? Deca? EQ? More test? Anadrol?

Recommended stacks please.
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>>40777883
>Deca? EQ?

Either or both. What are you on now?
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>>40777941
250mg/week test and 50mg/day adrol

What dosages should I start at, you think? Eager to plan this out so I can actually make gains this summer.
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>>40777787
yeah, most I ran it at was 600 too, silly fun, and I could afford it cause two friends were fond of it too and we bought stupid amounts in bulk so it evened out. how's the mdht at 70? never ran more than 50mg, I wonder if it's even worth upping the dose (which I am hesitant to do given all the other shit I treat myself to).
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>>40777959
Have you taken either of them before? Do you want to blast or just add some in for endurance gains?
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>>40777988
Underwhelming desu. I notice more from var in terms of vascularity and dryness.
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>>40778085
Nope but I've read up a lot on them and plan on taking them sometime in the future regardless for them collagen gains. This is just speeding up the process.

Mostly endurance right now since I won't be able to really make use of a hardcore blast, but I'd like to do more than just maintain this summer.

I was thinking 350/300/400 test deca eq with some anadrol cycled in.
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>>40778116
damn, but thought so. I'm probably gonna finish what I have but not gonna bother further. well, thanks for clearing that up lol
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>>40778125
You probably don't need a gram of oil to grow, let alone the anadrol. 300/150/300 is where I would start.
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>>40778229
Yeah but it can't hurt, and eq isn't really that stong mg for mg from what everyone says.

What about like 250/250/400 and tapered up if still underwhelmed 6-8 weeks later?

I don't really see a need to be very conservative with these compounds, not like I'm running tren/sdrol
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>>40777787

Half a gram of proviron a day?

What happened?
>>
>>40778263
I'm a low and slow conservative type so I always advise the lowest dose I think people can get away with, especially with new compounds. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how "mild" compounds treat you if you put the work in.
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>>40778327
I'm a natty type so I always advise staying natty. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how "natty" treats you if you put the work in.
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>>40778327
M8 I'm putting in 10+ hours a day with a shovel. I think I'm putting in enough 'work' I just wanna survive and make decent gains.
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on 250 test c ew
800 tren e ew
40mg sdrol ed

anything else except GH/slin/peptides I can add?
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Yo. This might sound gross but it's fucking GOOD

All dat casein
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>>40766502
>that fucking tatt
Sides, meet orbit
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>>40778303
Maybe a little oily and horny with my dick feeling a little thicker but really nothing groundbreaking. Maybe I should order raws from another source.
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>>40778373
Eat food, nigga
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>>40778527
why don't you go natty then and just eat more
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>>40778527
Then I'll just get fat :^)

Really I get where you're coming from but with the time those compounds take to really kick in I think it's better to start off on the strong side
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>>40778410
how do people unironically need instructions how to prepare this
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>>40778583
Help I tried to make this but I got my bathroom dirty
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>>40778605
stay small then
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>>40778583
:^)
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>>40778583
It's not about the instructions it's the idea numb nuts

Sorry I never thought to mix random shit together before. I usually only eat cottage cheese with pepper or almonds
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>>40778657
>it's the idea
of mixing dairy based protein sources with whey and PB?

HOLD
THE
PRESSES
AND
CALL
CNN
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>>40777294
will do gimme a bit to get ready for bed and get unpacked from my trip

>>40777317
>>40777364
>>40777428
thanks duders, kahuna will send you an email in a bit

>>40777799
digits confirm, will impregnate
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>>40778711
When is the last time you mixed cottage cheese and peanut butter?

Fucking retard
>>
Why is is that it's easier for me to bench the same weight as squatting for 8x12, when my squat pr and 5rm is way higher than my bench?
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>>40778797
this morning :^)
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>>40778837
Energy expenditure is greater when squatting. More weight over a longer rom requiring more stabilization.
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>>40778456

Have to make a mix of Mestanolone, Mesterolone, and Masteron.

BECOME THE PENIS
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>>40779172
I've reached a point where I would run that shit no questions asked
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>>40779216

In theory though that shit should be pure fire

No sides, dry as fuck, energy through the roof, crazy strength, dick on permadiamonds
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>>40779310

Could cruise on that

125mg Test E
200mg Mast E
50mg Mestanolone ED
50m Mesterolone ED
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so when my estro is high, my cum is only like a drop. when my estro is in range, I cum buckets

explain this
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>Ask question about fats vs carbs
>One response

>Ask question about giving gf anadrol
>Twenty responses

Nothin but guts around here friendos I love it
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What's your guys opinion and experiences with melanotan 2?
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>>40779310
>>40779326
don't give me ideas

...well, too late, actually. brb turning into androgenic monster
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>>40779366
>>
The propecia fucked up my dick bro, couldn't produce ejaculate.
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is a sleeve tattoo actually like thousands of dollars, wtf
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>>40779734
well you can get them for as cheap as 600 bucks if you know the right kind of methhead

not advisable tho
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>have a short dick that doesn't go past the balls
>see a thread that says "you can only post in this thread if your dick goes below the balls"
>take steroids and shrink my balls
>now my dick goes past my balls
>the next time i see that thread I will be able to post in it

heh suckers . . . never stood a chance
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