Fat Burners?

>>40769825
caffeine and nicotine for nattys. Meth and DNP for non-nattys

>>40769825
Big meme, everything that works is either scheduled or will kill you

>>40769890
I work at GNC, and I get several people who come in and tell me that they've been losing weight because of the fat burners. It's not no meme, you just don't believe.

>>40769844
How dare you imply the yellow fever is non natty

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yohimbine objectively works if you use it correctly.

>>40769825

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSPvX8OMYLQ

Well ye've got safe ones and naughty ones.

What else you need to know?

>>40769825
None of them(legal) work, all they do is hype you up on caffeine.

the only fat burners that show help any noticeable amount are illegal or gray area substances
>EC Stack (legal but limited, not really a fatburner)
>DNP
>Clen
>T3

if its completely legal it's a scam

>>40771982
>taking advice from a guy with a face tattoo

top fucking kek

>>40771999
I wouldn't call an EC stack limited, not in the US anyways. You can buy Ephedrine OTC, you just have to buy it from a pharmacy specifically, such as CVS or Walgreens.

>legal fatburners
bullshit
>EC stack
suppresses hunger
>pick up smoking or vaping
just smoke/vape every time you are hungry its the easiest way
>scheduled drugs
well of course these work the best but are also risky/the hardest to obtain. being on any stimulant will cut your hunger.

I've done all right with zantrex-3 and hydroxycut. The will to restrict has to be there in the first place, these substances make it a little easier although they aren't worth the price compared to experimental caffeine pills I've tried from Amazon. All less effective than nicotine, but as a cardio fiend I refuse to smoke

>>40772043
yeah i know, you can only buy so many a month though. i don't know the limit exactly but i believe it's around 3 or 4 boxes a month, because you can use that shit to make meth

>>40771967
>using it correctly means, fasting for around 14 hours, doing cardio after taking it and being on a calorie deficit

what an amazing product.

>>40772181
Yohimbe actually mobilizes fat that's stored in your body. It's favorite target is the fat stores in problem areas.

>>40772181
No dummy, you don't have to fast 14 hours to be in a fasted state. "Fasted state" just means your insulin levels are baseline. You could literally take it first thing after a good night's sleep and it would work until you ate again.

>>40769825
ECA works but it makes me shit blood. Not a little bit of blood, but a lot, like someone stabbed my asshole with a knife.

I found this troubling.

>>40772354
You need to see a specialist about that dude. That's not normal.

>>40772215
How about right before you go to sleep?

>>40772215
>You could literally take it first thing after a good night's sleep

so... in a fasted state.

>>40772801
Yes, that is what I said. That was my example for fasted state. Why reiterate that?

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>>40772801
You only need to have been fasted for 3 hours. Surely you can control yourself for 3 hours.

I'm a fan of yohimbine + lyle's stubborn fat loss protocol.

>>40772162
What are "experimental caffeine pills"? If it's caffeine what's experimental about it?

>>40772607
I probably should. I was on ECA like 3 days ago but after fasting all day I ended up drinking 3 L of wine. Now I'm shitting blood and having fierce pain my stomach.


I'd go to the doctor but I'm white so my insurance has a 5k deduct and 30% copay.

If you are looking for a shortcut take DNP. It is no question the best fat burner because you can still eat like shit and lose weight fast. Yohimbine is next for people too scared of DNP.

Clen and albuterol work but for me i had the worst sides. DNP @500mg a day the worst i got was night sweats and since i already have hyperhydrosis no one suspected otherwise

hey fit!

I just recently started stacking bronkaid (25mg of ephedrine sulfate) with caffeine.

I am sensitive to stimulants, never drink coffee or anything. Should I take 200mg caffeine with every bronkaid pill? And do this 3x per day?

With a good diet and daily exercise how much can I expect to lose per week on this?

Thanks for any info at all guys. I'm a lumpy 215 and I really need to cut down about 25 lbs before summer!

>>40774170

where can u get dnp?

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>>40770578

>>40769825
Dmaa absolutely kills your hunger but it's hard to get by itself.

>>40774170
>DNP
>you can still eat like shit

stop blabbing out this bullshit, you will get people killed

read the dnp pastebin, it clearly says what you can and what you should not eat by any circumstances

>>40774596
you probably won't need it 2x a day honestly, i've never gone over twice. usually in the morning, then preworkout

try 3x a day but it can effect your sleep if you take it within 5hrs of bedtime

>>40774170
this, but DO NOT take DNP if you're a fatfuck with no self control or discipline.

post cycle you will binge and gain the weight back. if you can't cut properly natty then don't bother.

Yohimbine was fucking amazing for me, worked wonders. Now it's banned in Europe, where do you eurobros get it?

>>40774810
>diet can kill you on DNP
You're the one spewing bullshit here mate
As long as he doesn't fuck around with the dosage too much and drinks enough water + electrolytes replenishing,he'll be fine

The only negative thing he'll get from a shit diet on DNP is more heat from the carbs,and that's it.

>>40775938
Not in every country it's not
Got mine from enhanced athlete
They recently opened an EU Store so it should ship quicker,with the same price and still no shipping fees,check it out.

>>40776007
>enhanced athlete
ty bro, will try

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>>40771967
>>using it correctly means, fasting for around 14 hours, doing cardio after taking it and being on a calorie deficit
>>40772181
>>40772215
>>40772801
>>40773112
Type 1 diabetic here, I tried yohimbine after starting a cut and after learning it lowers blood sugar

Looked into the science a bit more and I feel it's worth pointing out that this "works best without available insulin" meme is complete nonsense. It's active regardless of insulin levels and has the same effect when I've taken it with MASSIVE amounts of insulin and with none for 12+ hours

Which makes perfect sense because insulin is actually very active in the morning in non diabetics and produces something called the dawn phenomenon in diabetics in combination with the liver releasing sugars

Fasting probably does affect it, but not for that reason.

tl;dr insulin doesn't matter, this is a meme

>>40774680

May be true for some, but not me.
What it does do post-workout, combined with adrenaline, is that if I don't get food started right away after I'm done that I'll find 3 hours have gone by.

I've learned DMAA + caffeine requires pre-made meals.

3 scoops of DUST EXTREME with every meal.

>>40769825
Helps with appetite, can push my calorie deficit into overdrive without all the cravings all the time. Helps for fatasses getting used to not eating a moat load of food all the time.