Is he correct? Would this take 4-5 years?

On gear? Then Yes this would take no more than 5 years

>>40756725
Id would say less than a year training properly

>>40756725
Not attainable natty, but if you start using a mixture of tren and synthol then you should be able to achieve this within 10 years.

Depends on starting point, obviously.

>>40756725
1.5 years for a person who eats well and was an active kid, 2.5 years for a decent male, 3 for a skinny/chubby.
That's if you eat and train well.

No more than 1 year for anybody who trains 9 months natty and runs a light cycle. A legit cycle would surpass that in a year.

>>40756725
Obviously depends where you start from but that's probably in the 18 month range.

>>40756725
Pointless question without knowing your starting point and training history. Muscle memory is real, someone who has never worked out will take much longer than someone that was an athlete at some point, even if they both sat around doing nothing for the past decade.

>>40756775

This is a lie.

It is very easily attainable naturally, certainly within 2-3 years depending on level of effort and consistency.

Leg development here is modest at best, as is chest development.

Conditioning isn't anything exceptional.

People who say this isn't achievable naturally, think they know how to train and eat, they'll say things like:-

"training more than 3x per week will lead to overtraining"

"i eat an extra 500 calories per day but never gain weight"

"Squat day"

>>40757871
Stop lying.

>>40756775
It's this plus 10iu hgh per day

>>40757871
nice bait

>>40757966
>>40757977

ufff. idiots.

>>40756725

Solid 2 years but this is assuming you know how to train, eat and are consistent.

>>40756725
Literally 1 month in gym

>>40756725
1-2 minutes cardio everyday for 2 weeks

This is borderline fat

>>40756725

If you start out at as a huge fatass, and have like 200 lbs to lose, maybe that'll take 3 years.

If you're in any other situation, it'll take 2 or less. Probably more like 1.5 years

>>40756725
His chest is shit. I'd kill myself if that shit chest took 4-5 years.

>>40756725
If you lift once a week