You're just spinning your wheels every day, so why not enlist?

I don't feel like getting shot so some rich people can get richer

i like thinking for myself

>>40729820
OP's a faggot, but come on. How many military members do you think regularly get shot at. Hint- not a lot.

>>40729842
Yeah but the risk is not worth it.
I have nothing against getting shot at, but for a good reason.

I did 5.5 years ago. Get to go into work at 9am 3 days a week to do my own workout, with only one organized PT session. Learned a few skills but nothing the military is necessary for. Paid well is arguable, I make the equivalent of 50k a year and honestly don't work a lot right now so I suppose.

>>40729760
Because I don't want to die faggot

>>40729760
>paid well
kek its babysitting for delinquents

>>40729862

You have a better chance of being shot at going to a major city than by joining the military these days. Nobody said you have to go in as infantry.

>>40729760
Because I'm working on my degree so I can get an officer's commission.

>>40729760
I have long hair which I don't want to cut off and I don't want to be surrounded by people all day long, I need a lot of privacy.

>>40729909
Good thing I live in a backwater shithole then

Maybe if I could guarantee a spot as a equipment engineer somewhere close to home I'd consider it, but otherwise I don't think it's worth it

Army pls go

>>40729862
No youre just completey uneducated and retarded. As much as I hate POGs (basically servicemembers in non combat related jobs) they did the smart thing and joined the military with a cushy ass job but will still enjoy the same benefits as a ranger, recon marine, sniper or just regular infantry when they get out of the military. They also get paid the same for doing a much easier job.

Point being, if your only reason for not joining the military is "durr I don't wanna die for Israel" then you're just ignorant as fuck. If your reasons are "I don't want to be surrounded by a majority of dumbasses and have to follow stupid rules" then that's at least a legitimate reason. Although putting up with that for a few years is worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars in benefits when you get out.

>>40729820
Yeah, you're gonna get shot as a Logistics specialist.

>>40729825
There's room for that

>>40729900
I got
> base pay
> jump pay
> demo pay
> language pay
> hardship pay
> no taxes on deployment
etc.

>>40729917
> go to service academy
> everything is paid for

>>40729926
You're attached to that backwater shithole, huh?

>>40729934
How'd you know? ;)

>>40729979
Smartest anon in the thread

>>40729979
>. If your reasons are "I don't want to be surrounded by a majority of dumbasses and have to follow stupid rules" then that's at least a legitimate reason
that too
30-40 is not 'a few years'

>>40729926
>I don't want to leave my backwater shithole

Also you can guarantee a job fixing equipment. You make it sound like they're gonna force you to join the infantry or something.

>>40730017
>You make it sound like they're gonna force you to join the infantry or something
Where I was born and raised, if you dont pay a bribe you get conscripted, and if you don't pay another smaller bribe you are basically a meat shield, so forgive me for being skeptical of the military.

>>40729760
That's the plan fampai. IDF combat support next year if shit goes well.

>>40730009
Who said anything about 30-40 years? Fuck that shit. The benefits for staying in 4 years are already insane. The GI bill is literally free fucking money. Not only do they pay for 4 years of basically any college you want to go to, but they also give you a fucking monthly living allowance while you're in school.

I'm getting out in 16 months, will have 40k in the bank with no debt, a car, a perfect credit score and four years of college paid for and all I had to do was get a stupid haircut every week and be away from home for a few years. And I actually have a physically and mentally demanding job, I could have just been a fucking supply clerk and gotten the same results.

So please tell me how stupid and what a dumb goy I am for joining the military.

So someone dumber than me can yell at me all day for shitty pay and I can stand around doing nothing because the Military in my cuntry ist a Joke? Yeah no thanks

>paid well
ha ha ha no

>>40730073
Where I am you have to get recruited, do training, and if you do college they'll pay tuition but you have to work for them for 7 years. Not an awful deal, but that's very little control I have for a very long time.

>dumb goy etc
Why do you do this? I never said anything bad about people who join the military, it's just not the top option for me right now. You need to chill out and not be so defensive.

I'm close to my masters in information systems, if I enlist I'll do shitty desk jobs like if I apply anywhere else, but I'd get paid less. So no, no army for this motherfucker

>>40729996

oh look one of those group guys

I enjoy my freedom and as much as a degenerate as it makes me sound, i like being able to drink and do drugs as i please. I have a cushy office job and as much as it sucks being behind a desk all day, i have spending money and free time. Got plenty of friends in the military and it sounds like they love it but then i hear about their schedule and how much they have to pack everything up and move, and i know its not for me. Family over everything.

>>40729996
I'm actually about to begin my application to the Naval Academy. My university doesn't have NROTC so if that doesn't work out I'm gonna have to wait until graduation to go to Quantico

>>40730127
Bring a book

>>40730152
It's not advertised much but there are the equivalent of high speed jobs in info systems/electronic warfare, whatever you wanna call it. Drop out rates are comparable to specops

>>40730184
Nope, I made the mistake of passing RIP instead

>>40730212
>i like being able to drink and do drugs as i please
You've got the wrong impression, when I was an E3 I got called over to drink a sixer in 10 minutes then had to unload gear for guys coming back from Trashcanistan

>>40730245
Good on you, anon

>>40729760
Hey, fuckface.

Run my fucking PTAD recruiting points so I can get sergeant this month

Douche

>>40730149
Canada?

>>40730589
yeah

>>40729979
>Although putting up with that for a few years is worth the hundreds of thousands of dollars in benefits when you get out.
It's like putting up with being a nigger so you get welfare.

>>40729760
my bros in already and i don't wanna be a copycat or do poorly and disappoint him

>small country

got a year left.

expereinces vary for all of us, it's not an action packed adventure that i hoped or dreamed of as a stupid teen, too many movies of course. i still crave thrills, the danger. i ride a motorcycle for those sort of kicks but eh, it's still not enough. i just feel like jumping out of my skin most days.

i dunno, i fucking hate it. but it's sometimes easy but it's stupid easy or it's really stupid for really stupid little fucking annoyances.

i'll stay in for a couple months more and get the fuck out with the amount of money i hope to have saved up.

I really hope someone is paying you to shill this hard on /fit/. All the effort you're putting into the replies are laughably obvious. Holy shit fuck off, shill.

>>40730390
Clearly a boot

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>>40729760
>paid well
>start off with less than 30k annually
>barely any funds these days for our military
>they have problems getting the army ammo at this point
>will end up dying in either some third world shithole so greedy (((politicians))) can open access to oil for (((corporations))) or starving on the streets after they let me go to free up bases for refugees

Yeah, I'll pass.

>tfw earned 25K last year before taxes

yup, totally worth it. oh yeah so fucking worth it man.

>>40729996
Depend on ones preferred job and country, the degree one wants may not be offered in military academic institutions. Often they'll just send you out to whatever university you'd go to anyways and pay the tuiton.

>>40729760
>learn other skills
shoveling shit isn't excactly a skill
>paid well
for being sent out into shit missions where you are tied to your balls, you work for a year to gain 10 miles, then an order comes in and you lose all the work in a day. no thank you, soldiers are legitimate cucks.
If you want to go on a killing spree become a private contractor or a hitman.

>>40730152
I'm told it's worth in insofar as if every other place requires experience in the industry the army never does. If it's a job with very obvious civilian applications, then the army functions as a decent enough fallback if job hunting doesn't work out.

Infantry here

Don't do it boys. Not during peacetime atleast.

my experience in my navy days could get me a decent living operating cranes and shit.

better than fucking nothing and i had no valuable skills beforehand so it's got it's odds and ends. the travelling was cool but the enlistment overall was 99% suck and 1% fun most days.

>>40730736
I enlisted as a service's tech and got a pretty nice experience out of the Canadian forces. It was a fun experience traveling to different bases around the country
Also your pay goes up. I'll be making 40k in my next contract

Then again I had no direction at home

>>40730073
I was getting a degree during the 4 years you were playing war and now I have everything you have (besides virginity) but way way way more money

>picking weeds
>cleaning other people's messes
>dealing with motards


I already made that mistake once. Don't enlist unless you're at absolute rock bottom.

>>40729760
Carrying a 60 lb pack kills knees
I like sleeping more than a few hours a night.
Have to treat officers like royalty
Currently I see women in my daily routine.
The pay is bad.

Bless them for doing this but it would reduce my quality of life so bad

>Last year
>Go to MEPs, take ASVAB, get a 99
>In great health, but have a heart murmur the doc wants checked
>Go to heart specialist
>CMO tells me I have pulmonary artery hypertension, I won't get a waiver
>Get a second opinion from a local cardiologist
>My heart looks completely normal

Now I'm working on a chemical engineering degree. Kinda sucks, but that's the way life is, I suppose.

I'm already in the air force senpai.

>>40730390
sup man. tabless bitch 2/75 here

>>40729760
>did ten years in the infantry
>70% va disability
>wife agr O-3
>chill at the house, take care of her and spend my time training and eating

>>40729760
>Your job is literally getting yelled at by some guy dumber than you all day.
>Your job is murdering people or the assistance of murdering people

I'll pass. I like my working on a farm way of contributing to society while being fit rather than being a dumbass without morals.

Military is for stupid fucks, that's why you go there to get a scholarship. LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U93WPgOLJIU

Some of the great times you can have in the military. Why would I join them to be yelled at by this retard all day?

>>40729760

DONT DO IT ITS A FUCKING TRAP

THE MILITARY IS GAY AS FUCK

THE FITNESS SCENE SUCKS AND ALL THE OLD PEOPLE IN THE ARMY CONSTANTLY DICK YOU DOWN FOR YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS

ITS NOT FUCKING WORTH IT

>>40729996
Logistics Specialist is just a fancy way to meaty speed bump when shit hits the fan and they're looking for someone slow down that enemy forward detachment the slicing into the rear areas.

>>40731094
I would be your retard, and you would cry like a bitch.

If you're gonna join the forces, go into a tech field and join either Navy or Air Force. Its much more laid back than being an infantry soldier in the army

>>40731121
Lel, I got my 5k run down to 19 minutes which is nothing outstanding but my WO was unimpressed and claimed that when he was my age he was running a 10k in 28 minutes.

Knowing him i seriously doubt it.

>>40729760
I hate Jews

>>40730963
Not all of us have daddys money for college fag

>>40729760
There are plenty of fat fucks in every branch of the military.
I think the pay is decent, make 60k to work on helicopters and when I go to flight school I'll be starting around 75k.

The military is such an easy job if you can deal with the little bullshit.
Plus get paid to go to the gym.

>>40731094
>farmboy
>military is for idiots
Lol okay I'll be here working on electronics on my ship while you pick things out of the dirt and fuck your sister

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>>40731450
He looks fucking stupid.

>your job is literally being /fit/
wrong, the only people who are /fit/ in the military are desk jockey POGs who have a ton of free time to pin and hit the gym. people who actually do shit do not have time to work, and all time spent doing exercise is cardio since you only need to be strong enough to carry your buddy and climb a wall

>learn other skills whether its something civilian or high speed shit
most skills learned in the military aren't applicable to civvy life unless you specifically choose something that will give you a career outside of the military. "wow you can cycle ammunition through a tank and talk really loudly during inappropriate times here's 100k starting"

>paid well
top o' the kek to ye, laddie, can't even go to the VA without waiting a year just for a checkup

>the military will solve ALL MY PROBLEMS
t. never been in military

enjoy your 4 years of nogains if you are a grunt, or 4 years of norespect and nomoney if you are a pog

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>>40729760
Mate im in the military and i still get to do the normal gym shit everyone on this board does, we do get knocked off at a relatively normal time and most of us live off base.

Army is just a day job until the "high speed shit" comes around.

>>40731468
>win the Arnold
>top 5 Olympia finisher
>some twink on fit puts me down

>>40731401
Trust me I realize the irony of the sentence while I typed it. Heard that bullshit before.

Working on a farm is a great balance between a rough job that forces you to ACT LIKE A MAN, while letting you feel like you contribute to society in a morally positive way.

Does it take brains to work on a farm? Fuck no. I often sit and listen to how stupid my boss is. The way he will instruct people to do things or how philosophy behind things is very rudimentary.

I'd rather work on the farm I do than ANY fast food place (contributing positively to societies health rather than negatively). Working at a gas station contributing to pollution. etc. I was track to be a six figure graphic designer until I got sick of making bullshit ads for bullshit companies.

I am too smart of a man to work on a farm, but really the pay is the only problem with the job. It feeds my SOUL to work there. I put in hard work and am doing something positive for the world.

I believe people still have some archaic out look on the military, in regards to how necessary and morally good it is. You realize this isn't 70 years ago right?

>>40731401
Glad you sell out your morals for an easy job. Wait who's the pussy?

>>40731139
Dealt with worse things in life than the military could ever throw at me. Due to genetics I got ulcerative colitis and had my entire bowel removed, I have a permanent ostemy. This happened to me at the rip age of 22.

I took experimental medications with unknown side effects and real medications with real side effects just to stay alive. This all effected my health LONG TERM severely.

I could've been a bum neck beard on disability but I signed up to bust my ass on the farm so I could make my own way.

My life was much harder than yours and frankly I think joining the military is for people too WEAK to find their own way in life. Because you are literally signing up to have someone else tell you what to do 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK.

>>40731158
Your wo is a fucking liar not many people in the workd are cabable of a 28 10k 99% chance he is full of shit nigga better have documentation for that shit

>>40731035
could be worse. Once dated a girl who was trying to be a Marine but the guy giving her the eye exam at MEPS made her take her glasses off for the exam, so of course she failed it. Then he just declared she has a detached retina on the spot. He wasn't a doctor.

She got 5 different doctors to sign off on her, but MEPS didn't give 2 fucks.

>>40729760
Hell, I'm only hitting the gym cause I want to be in decent shape for college ROTC.

>>40730134
For the amount of shit we deal with the pay isn't that great.
Or might just be because I'm a Marine.

>>40731596
>morals
Soldiering to protect farmboy sheepfuckers is an honorable profession. Asshole.

>>40730882
Peace time sucks for every MOS.

>>40731675
This is probably false

I am gonna go to ROTC to up my chances of actually going to RASP significantly.

>>40731651
You have a very wierd perception that kids at 18 are suppose to have their life passion found out, be wise and some sense enlightment that you believe yourself to possess

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>>40729820
>>40729842

>>40731698
Cant say so as a corpsman workibg at the hospital

>>40731707
Possibly, but I believe it. With all the budget cuts, MEPS will DQ you for any small bullshit. Another guy I knew tried to go into the service, but they held him up for a full year just because he sprained his wrist

>>40731718
Good luck. Don't quit.

>>40731774
thanks lad.

>>40729760
joining the navy would be great for me, looking to sign up for officer training sometime soon so it will cover most of my already cheap schooling
I'll get placed in the atlantic fleet and it would just be a mixture of
>being bored as fuck
>doing war games with NATO guys
>getting drunk in europe

>>40730044
>IDF
this is b8

>>40731926
What? I'm sure there are plenty of Israelis that browse /fit/

>>40731696
Please keep in mind I work on a farm not own one or inherited one. So most of the standard 'farm boy' stereotypes don't apply to me.

I live in Canada so please explain what the military is protecting me from? As far as I can tell for the last 20 years American military has been about securing oil in other countries under the guise of ending terrorism.

>>40731731
Hopefully their life passion shouldn't be to sign up for rich mans bidding of killing poor people from other countries.

I'm not saying military should never exist but doesn't server the same noble purpose it did in the time of WW2.

Reminds me of a Dave Chapelle bit 'how old is 15 really', it's old enough to know you don't wanna be pissed on.

18 was old enough for me to know I didn't want some dumb asshole bossing me around 24hrs a day. Old enough to know I don't wanna murder other people. Old enough to not do some rich mans bidding.

>>40732018
Well your wrong kiddo over 90% of jobs dont get to see combat so you basically go to work listen to your boss which you fucking do at work anyways than you go home and i get a hair cut maybe once a month i get paid money to live in an appartment and i get to pocket most of it

>>40732018
You're the biggest fucking idiot that I have ever seen talk about military.
literally kys

Because I'm married and don't want to get cucked or go through a divorce for "le military man" meme and shit pay. I'm alrdy set on my career path too. Law enforcement. I also roid, so it's be hard getting away with it in the service "micromanaging cunts"

>>40729760
I hate the idea of having someone "break" me so I can become a part of a collective body. It just sounds like a miserable slavelike existence.

>>40729760
are you actually paid by someone to post this moronic shit?

>>40732411
Yeah, you're right.
Now lurk more faggot before you post.

>>40732452

ur not my real dad

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>>40729760
I'm about 2 years out for my electrical engineering degree, I do wanna serve but it would be a waste of my expertise.

If I'm to make a jump this big it better be worth it so I'm preparing for an 18X contract, fuck being a grunt or pog. I want an adventure

>>40730910
I auditions for a reg force band out of highschool and won. Did my BMQ, PLQ, QL4, and 6A and immediately moved up to Sgt making 60k a year. It's as cushy of a job as you can get in the military.

>>40731926
Why would it be? I'm moving to Israel in the next few months. I bet there are Israelis that post here. Unlike the surrounding countries, Israel is a modern, civilized place that has internet access.

>>40729760
Because there is no modern reason to fight
>Fighting terrorism, by invading countries you have no right to be in and turning people into terrorists by being there
>Being stationed in a base to piss off Russia
>Being stationed in a base to piss off China
>Being stuck in a standard base not doing jackfuckingshit watching your life slip away

What a total fucking waste of your life that would be

I am getting surgery on my lower leg bones to correct the out toe. Will the military accept me??

>>40729820
/thread
Also OP it's a pretty spicy meme that when I worked for the state at 13.70 an hour my e3 buddy in the Marines was making MAYBE 7 an hour
It's a rip off my guy

>>40729760
>paid well
What are you, an 8 year old? Service members are pain shit unless you're a physician or pilot.

My criminal record aside, why don't I enlist? because I have to much muscle mass. The military is like crossfit, they will have me doing dumbass drills and exercises for months and not provide me with enough calories to meet my maintenence. I will lose all my gains and look like a normie fag.

>>40729760
Cant, tried. ADHD and on meds. Btw, rtialin works a bit like yohimbine. Just wanted you all to know that.

Was in the Navy for 4 years.

One month inside a ship for exercises is enough for me, let alone a 10 month deployment.

I did enjoy fucking a shit load of Thai hookers.

Depressed and literally autistic.

>>40729760
hahahaha fgt.
t. lance leader in paras 1yr in

I hate being in the military but it's easy money for a job any idiot could do. I joined the air Force so I wouldn't get killed. I build bombs which sounds really impressive but it's not. Also a Sgt so I get to deal with the people side of things which sucks. But I'm gonna do my 20 and get out. I get the time to lift every day and the chow hall food is so bad I don't over eat.

>>40733642
No, you'll look like a hard cunt. Military food is actually really high calories, plus literally all bases have a gym. All the soldiers/muhreens you see are either lean, wiry ottermode who look like boxers or /massivearms/ musclebro tier.
Also women fucking love soldiers, you'll get way more pussy in the military than in real life.

Too fat for basic. But I'm working on that.

If you are too independently minded they hate that.
You could literally be the perfect candidate but if they dont like your attitude you're fucked.

>>40731718
ROTC will guarantee you don't go to RASP.

If you want RASP, tell your recruiter you won't enlist without it, and make sure they put it in your contract at MEPS. It's very simple. If there are no slots, tell them you will come back when they are available. It's that simple.

I ship May 8th and I'm intent on being a 3rd generation Ranger.

>>40731732
why do so many loggers die? big foot?

In my country soldiers are treated like dogs and paid same shit like cashier shop or guy at carwash, yet they are being send into iraq, afghan, iran and die on mines put together from shit and tomatoes.
No thanks

>>40733916
trees are heavy, man
also they work in the wilderness with big saws, if they get fucked, the nearest hospital is far away, same with fisherman

>>40729760
in Aus soldiers get paid more than the national average, get good benefits, and everybody likes you because for some reason we fucking love our army guys over here.
Join Today!

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>>40733916
dad was a logger

they get crushed by trees and logs

>>40733837
Well I have been considering do rangers, I was actually in the process of joining marines a few years better but got locked up before meps. I have heard that they won't let you in if you weigh over 225 and I ranger school would totally eat up my gains.
>>40731732
I work as a roofer and hands down have the most dangerous job in the world, I say a prayer every morning before I go to work. I've gotten over my fear of heights but I forever will have the fear of an accident happening and me dieing or ending up paralyzed.

>>40734028
>hands down have the most dangerous job in the world
>graphs shows it isn't
okay

If you are a shitty manual laborer, what do you have to lose from joining the military? Don't say something autistic like gains

>>40734063
Hah yeah I'd like to see you work up on a roof 14hours when its 80 degrees on the ground it is 130 on the roof. Try hanging gutters in the snow and tell me if you feel safe, or walking up a 60 degree slope with slippery hot ass shingles. While the graphs show deaths, they don't show injuries, I have been doing this 4years now and have already seen people fall and get a injury that fucked them for life and put them out of work.

What do I lose? I will be sacrificing muscle mass that I worked years for, and since you say "shitty manual laborer." I will be giving up a job that I only work seasonally 8moths a year, and make 40grand with free insurance, unemployment, and other benefits, not to mention I goto college partime working. I would be giving up this Shitty job, for a job that would make me do shitty manual labor (90% of the time in the military you're scrubbing toilets or doing other bitch chores) I will be sacrificing my freedom, I would lose like 30grand off my yearly income, and I would lose the thrill and adrenaline rush of risking my life everday. Maybe stats say that roofers don't die more then lumberjacks asshole, but let me tell you, working at 3stories you fall, you are dead. I do this everyday, one mistake = dead. I would rather fall from 3 stories though, because 2 stories you could die, but you're more likely to become a cripple for the rest of your life.

>>40729760
Air Force is my plan if I've not graduated college by 25. Air Force OCS if I graduate and can't find jobs for shit within 6 months.

>>40734131
>getting this triggered
also, I said DON'T say something autistic like gains, then you go and say it lmao

Stay a manual laborer your whole life, some people are destined to be the salt of the earth

>>40732356
I agree with him 100%

>>40734283
fuck off faggot, the only people that don't care about losing gains are little scrawny bitch boys, doesn't matter to you because you don't have a physique to lose, and I'm mastering a trade and going to school for project management. Goal to start my own company like my boss did, my boss owns a million dollar yatcht, has a lake house, house on northside chicago, house in florida, island property, countless cars, and a bunch of other assets that I haven't seen. Did he get this from the military? can anyone get this from the military? or did he start working as a roofer at my age and then start his own buisness of "manual labor." you're the autistic one kid, roofing is big, big, money, even a small company will net you positive economic profit throughout the longrun.

>becoming a robot sir yes sir factory default drone
>Sacrificing freedom and individuality
>Having to follow orders and commands
>Having to "drop and give me 20" when I make the drill Sargent aware his existence is pathetic
>Having to put up with an aggro " officer" yelling at me whose sole purpose is to break who I am and rebuild me as a lemming ready to jump of a cliff with out a single question
>pissing my life away for nefariously questionable causes
>Heightened chance of seeing other robot drone bros die
>Heightened chance of losing limbs, sanity and myself
>Having to deal with other army bureaucrat drones who are robotic by nature
>Deal with the government trying to Welsh it's way out of my army pension
>Selling out my freedom to live in a pseudo prison

I choose to start my own business and answer only to myself

>2017
>not lifting for the culture wars

wtf are you doing?

>>40734569
>2009+13-4
>projecting this hard about shit you have no idea about

I would only want to join the Special Forces but that shit takes some insane dedication

>>40731596
>easy job

Yea im sure repairing and maintaining aircraft is easy as putting seeds in the ground and >>40734569
waiting

>>40734463
>>40734131

this anon gave me aids

>>40734664
I work with the people after their service is up when they are discharged back into the general public it's a complete culture shock to them. Similar to being institutionalized after being in prison your never quite the same or who you were meant to be.

That's what happens when you sign away your individuality and let a blockhead scream into ear, "DROP AND GIVE ME 20 MAGGOT" get farked cunt

>>40734705
Waiting to finish your sentence ?

>>40729760
im strongly considering it. After I get out of uni I might end up joining

>>40732452
I'm an oldfag, faggot.

I've been here since last summer.

>>40731561
Not that anon but you've got to admit he looks like his dad touched him as a kid

I didn't get Fit so I can die for some god damn kikes. Let me live my days looking at my biceps, in peace senpai

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I got blown up, couldn't lift weights for almost a year and I lost a ton of weight and gains because of that. Now I'm back at square one as fucking lanklet skelly and all I got out of it was mental trauma and a bad knee

th-thanks

>>40734569
ask me how I know youre in middle school

>>40732018

Having a strong military means other countries won't fuck with you

It seems like the military isn't protecting you from shit because the military is doing its job so well that you can even have that thought in the first place and live in your bubble

You have to meet aggression with aggression

There will always be conflict it is perpetual

>>40736706
And likely 100% VA disability.

>>40737304
Plus traumatic sgli

>>40729760
Already enlisted USAF as a ground radar tech.
>free gym
>pay is shite, but when you add on benefits before even getting out you can come up pretty well for having no skills beforehand
>earned associates in electronic technology and bachelor's in engineeeing FOR FREE in first 5.5 years
>enabled me to to take care of my family whereas I would not have otherwise been able to
>not to mention the training for my job alone nets me an $80k per year job on the outside at any airport as airport fallback
>never been shot at
>good 70% of supervisors have been cool
>coming up on re enlistment time. Deciding whether to comision or hop oit. I have no fancy dreams of becoming a TSgt. All gonna come down to whether I want some more free time to do hobbies