>yfw test is illegal for you but legal for this

>>40717225
Lol, indeed

>>40717225
heather gets it

>>40717225
That's because you're fucking mental in the US. Brainwashing from an early age means this is acceptable, but steroid use isn't.

That said, in the UK it REALLY fucks me off that you can get transgender treatment/surgery on the NHS but it's a nightmare to get surgery on the NHS if you're ugly.

I've been trying the latter for near on three years and it's finally just one step away.

Funnily enough, I was originally diagnosed with Body Dysmorphia (until I pointed out that I think I'm quite good looking, it's just other people who call me ugly on a regular basis) which is treated by basically tricking you into thinking there's nothing wrong.

Gender Dysmorphia is basically the same thing, but is treated by simply giving in and letting them get what they want.

How is that in any way fair?

>>40717225
What are the best exercises to escape this planet?

>>40717225
Literally who the fuck cares if something's "legal" or not. I swear, whites are so fucking pathetic with this shit lmfao.

>>40717359
>have to pay for other peoples' cosmetic surgeries
Nice "country"

>>40717386
How is the reception in prison?

>>40717386
This. If you want to use steroids and you have the money for it, it's really a no-brainer.

I feel this weeds out the weak, mentally ill and mentally inferior by making them unable to procreate.

its like homosexuality in my eyes.

>>40717395
>We pay for people who kill themselves with smoking and drinking.
>We pay for people who are involved in accidents that were their own stupid fault.
>We pay for fat bastards who kill themselves and get all the attendant diseases that go with being fat.
>We pay for stupid cunts to kick out rotten fucking children without a second thought.
>We pay for the mental health care of guys who get PTSD when they voluntarily joined the army and did a tour in Iraq/Afghan (what the fuck did they expect?).
>We pay for drug addicts to get treatment.
>We pay for treatment for people who "didn't want to bother the doctor" and let an easily treatable condition get out of hand.
>We pay for an increasingly top-heavy aged population who won't just fuck off and die.
>We pay for people with a recognized mental illness to get their gender reassigned.

Incidentally I did have an idea that you should get one "joker card" you can use on the NHS. So if for example you want to reassign your gender or get cosmetic surgery on the NHS, that's fine. But if later in life you get cancer due to smoking or liver disease due to drinking heavily, then you have to pay.

Obviously would never work, but you get the general idea.

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"I have gender dysmorphia and think i should be a man when im actually a woman. I think being a man will make me happy"
here have some testosterone, and if you want we can get rid of your perfectly healthy sex organs and give you a frankenstein dick

"I have body dysmorphia and think i should be bigger than i am naturally. I think having bigger muscles will make me happy"
Wow this irresponsible bodybuilder has serious mental issues. You need to see a psychiatrist, also counting your macros is an eating disorder!

>>40717553
Dude american soldiers expect to have their healthcare taken care of for life by the government in exchange for their service. Its part of the deal

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>>40717648

The trans propaganda is working to sterilize people through their own freewill to help stop overpopulation

>>40717553
>We pay for stupid cunts to kick out rotten fucking children without a second thought.

This is a good thing

>>40717648
>also counting your macros is an eating disorder!

This triggers me

>>40717765
Too bad it's only affecting the only ~10% of the world where overpopulation isn't a problem

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>go to the doctor to get my T levels checked
>low side of "normal"
>asked Dr. to check again
>low
>asked Dr. to check again
>low
>asked Dr. to check again
>low

I'm out $200+ in co-pays and lab fees and since my FIRST visit was normal, the Dr. refuses to pursue treatment for my statistically low testosterone. I got the results from the most recent test yesterday and he still says "low but generally inconclusive." He also wants to charge me to discharge each and every lab result to another doctor for a fee of $45 each.

>>40717837
Can you go to a different one? Or go to an endocrinologist?

>>40717837
how low?

>>40717863

Well the problem was he kept leading me on after each test came back low. Obviously I am to blame for falling for it twice, but after the first low he said that if I slept less than 8 full fasted hours last night it would affect the results. The second low he told me I was within the margin of error for being "low-normal" again and the third one I actually took the results in person and asked for a copy which is where he gave me the $45/hour per lab result.

>>40717872

I don't have the results in front of me, unfortunately, so I don't want to say the wrong number, but both total and free were in the normal range for a 75-84 year old man. Google says that's 471 and 6, respectively.

>>40717386
Don't you have a child to abandon?

>>40717648
>counting your macros is an eating disorder!
I feel like this might be an actual thing a psychologist has said.

>>40717837
Rather than wasting money on "doctors" just fucking buy actual testosterone lmfao. Holy shit, being this high inhibition must be a death sentence.

>>40717958
"actual testosterone" from underground labs lmao

>>40717892
What a fucking hack, I can only hope he gets his license revoked some day.

Kys my man.

I workout at home and haven't trained in a public gym in ages. How the fuck do you just find steroid connections? It's not like the teenager selling weed next door knows the roid dealer.

>>40718040
Just crash your test and get a prescription then

>>40717386
>>40717427
How much time will you get for getting caught with roids? Can't be too much...

>>40717648
All whites are cucks, just look at the responses defending these degenerate whites. That's why white women wants to breed with bbc

>>40717958
easier said than done, where do you even buy steroids from

>>40717225
At least Heather is sane

it's 2017
he doesn't want a freshly legal boipussi loaded up on girl hormones with 20k fake tits and a 30k fake vag

hate to live your life bra

>>40718477
In any first world country except Sweden, probably just a fine and probation, assuming you didn't have enough for them to claim you are distributing

>>40717553
>We pay for the mental health care of guys who get PTSD when they voluntarily joined the army and did a tour in Iraq/Afghan (what the fuck did they expect?).
>We pay for drug addicts to get treatment.
Anon those two aren't bad

>>40717958

Yeah except my insurance wouldn't cover my underground drugs champ.

may GOD, the host of hosts, holy of all holies punish these sick things for there sinfulness transgressions, may they rot in HELL and burn until the flames eat there evil souls

>>40717957
Can confirm. I ran into problem with my father and was talking to a psychologist about my life and my calorie counting came up and then she was trying to tell me it was an eating disorder.

>>40717679
He wasn't talking about america, he's British.
By the way, doesn't the US have a huge vet care problem? Scores of Vietnam/Iraq/Afghan vets living on the streets?

>>40717778
Why? I'm a staunch environmentalist who realises the earth is going to be fucked if we don't take action on climate change.

Yet the green lobby has been taken over by moronic hippies who think nuclear power is dangerous, solar panels are clean, and wind power is a viable energy source.

Most importantly, everyone from eco-loon hippies, to policy making politicians, to actual educated scientists, won't admit that the real issue is overpopulation.

Problem is, there's no solution. A good start though would not be paying fuckwits to have more and more kids.

>>40717225
> tfw as brazilian med school student could easily get my hands on pharma grade steroids
> tfw everything here is shittier than uk, usa etc tho

>>40718697
None of them are bad as such, but they're all choices people could actively avoid.

Being ugly isn't a choice.

>>40718753
Yup.
They threw all them out on the streets and oft refuse to take care of them or just create all kinds of bullshit reasons to not take care of them.

>>40717225
one of the big issues for transgender people is that no many how many hormones or surgeries they get, how much they surround themselves with people that won't question what they are doing, they will never be able to become their gender of choice and when they realise this and all the damage they have done to their bodies many go completely insane, and often kill themselves

that being said, mtf trannies are fun as fuck to have sex with and so insecure they will do whatever you want

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>>40717359
>wow it's so fucked up other people have to pay for you to get your dick chopped off
>but it's ok when their tax dollars go toward making me pretty :))))
My ancestors are smiling at me, can you say the same?

Make friends with one of these mentally ill freaks and get their T

>>40717837
> go to another GP

>>40717225
Plenty of drugs for mental disease are illegal without prescription.

>>40718823
Problem is birth rates in the West aren't the problem. You'd need to slow down Africa and Asia to have an really effect.

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>tfw youre a transman and read the replies
i should have expected this desu

>>40717359
Lmfao what kind of surgery are you trying to get ?

So could I identify as a female and demand testosterone because I want to become a male?

>>40719699
That's a tricky question. Like I say, I don't know what's wrong with me exactly. Funnily enough, people have the balls to tell me I'm ugly (or tell others who tell me), but are too cowardly to explain how exactly.

I'm guessing they'll just measure my face and check if anything is out of alignment or compare it to good looking faces. No idea really.

>>40718942
I didn't say it's OK, I said it's unfair.

And I'm a big admirer of the Iron Lady, which given I'm from Liverpool really fucks my family off.

>>40717225
...... single moms

>>40719601
>transman
> man
lmao thanks for the laugh

>>40718514
just lurk /fraud/ and someone will post the reddit link. you can find sources if you really want to, usually get to know someone on a nonanonymous board and they'll help you out. or become friends with a strong as fuck dude at the gym and i'm sure he'll help you out.

>>40717225
Who gives a fuck. High trt doses cost about $125 a year.

>>40719601
The only thing you are good for is between your legs.
Your rightful place is naked face down snatch and ass up in a dark room.

>>40720777
okay

>>40720048
Kinda late in the thread, but can you post pictures? Censor out the eyes or something if you don't want to be recognized or of some random person who looks like you.

>>40720485
It took me a week at my new gym to find to roiders my experience isn't everyone's but I was pretty impressed.

>>40719601

post pic you faggot

>>40721019
what god damn womanly response if you're going to be a man at least put some goddamn thought into what you say, beta as the rest of the bitches

>>40717225
It's actually mother and son transition together. I presume they did that so as to make it sound more salacious for their readership and to abrogate women of any responsibility in projecting their unlimited insecurities on innocent family members.

I hate your country and everyone in it. Sorry guys, this is just bullshit.

>>40717359
the stuff you're thinking about hasn't been around long enough for anyone to have been exposed to it at a young age, this whole trans acceptance thing is only a few years old as far as most people know

>lazy dyel fucks sad they can't get test prescribed from their doc because they're too stupid and impatient to train properly and give it time.
The funny thing is you can get TRT if you're actually low on test, but most of you fags are probably like 5% lower than the mean and think you're small because genetics and not because you have no fucking idea how to train. The test they would give you also wouldn't be nearly enough compared to what you use for muscle building.

>>40721219
im lanky rn so nah

>>40720048
you most likely need double jaw surgery

>>40717553
>We pay for

WE WUZ TAXPAYERS AND SHIIEET

>>40721383
post that boypuss u whore

encouraging people with mental illness to go all the way with it. Holy shit.

It's actually sad as fuck that they let children do this rather than helping them.

>>40717225
>I was born a female and want to feel like a man

here's some test

>I was born a man and dont feel like one, I want to feel like a man

we can turn you into a woman if you want but giving you test is illegal

>>40718739
Under rated post

>>40719601
>man
You know even John Hopkins refuses to do the surgery because it doesn't help and 41% attempt suicide anyways.

>>40717648
Made my day anon.

>>40717450
>destroying the nuclear family is fine as long as gays don't breed

it's better for society that there aren't too many high test men who question society and cause controversy

high test + intelligence in people is a dangerous combination for the folks in power

>>40719601
kill yourself already, everyone knows you're going to anyway.

>>40723673
nuclear family was destroyed by feminism and brainwashing woman to see being a single mom as 'brave' and an ideal to strive for.

This is just kicking it while it's down because there is no going back at this point so no one gives a fuck.

>>40718823
>waaaah, this is such a horrible world, better not make children
Nigga you fucking what? You're living in the most peaceful times of known history.

>>40723740
this

now I am all for equality etc

but before feminist, it was enough for one person per family to work (which would give you a nice big house, cars, even a butler with a good job)

after feminism, to barely make ends meet, you need TWO people per household to work 40h+ a week

HOW IN THE FUCK COULD THEY THINK THIS WAS A GOOD STRATEGY, WHAT THE FUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

They do realize they god completely and utterly platted by the gubermint, right? Otherwise they could have struck a deal where the man/woman of a household takes turns in working 1 year a t a time, for example (or any number of better arrangements than now)


FUCK

>>40717225
say you identify as a woman, but want to be a man and need test to do it

>>40717958
>being this high inhibition must be a death sentence.
More like a life sentence.
=(

>>40717957

My female psychiatrist friend once told me that watching what you eat isnt a healthy way of gaining control of your life.

>>40717958
>buy actual testosterone

trusting stuff you find on the deepweb enough to inject yourself with it and just hope you aren't getting aids / semen / snot / or just scrabbled egg yolks is pretty brave.

>>40723866
>going on deepweb to buy test
but why tho?

>>40723934
because i dont know any other way.

>>40717553
I just want America to have a fat tax like based Japan

>>40717817
Underrated post

>>40723942
reddit. literally no reason to not go there to buy gear, tons of reputable vendors backed up by thousands of reviews and labmax results, plus their reputation is on the line so you're all but guaranteed a refund if your gear is bunk.

>>40723810
How did feminism cause a change in how much people need to work?

>>40724024
Don't feed the troll

>>40724024
putting all women into the workplace, because now women are strong and independent. So before, a job had to pay one individual enough to support a family but now it only has to pay two individuals that amount basically cutting the amount one person receives in half.

That's the idea, anyway. And while there is a pretty direct correlation, the value of work going down over the last 40-50 years can be tied to a number of things so it's hard to just blame 'feminism' for it.

Feminism can be pretty directly connected to the significant rise in divorces, men pretty much never getting even joint custody of their own children, and the destruction of the family unit but a lot of people see these things as positive changes in society so who knows.

>>40718477
In the UK you cant be charged for possessing steroids, only selling

>>40717837
Could have gotten a short cycle off test-e for that price.

>>40718823
Birthrate isn't a problem in developed countries. Check China, India, and Africa. There's also lots of evidence to suggest the birthrate will stagnate when the population reaches 9.5 billion.

Also to say solar and wind aren't viable energy sources is just false. But I do agree that nuclear should be used to quickly get us off fossil fuels in the short term.

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>>40717359

Go back to >>/r9k/ you deluded cunt.

>>40724024
basically women and men were seen as a team. The man worked and the woman took care of the house. Now both work, so the over-all value of work is half. Wages for jobs only need to cover half of the standard cost of living. Min-wage in the 70s was the equivalent to a little over double what it is now when placed against the cost of everything.

>>40724045
this is a thing that's talked about in universities and shit, its not some conspiracy. It's a pretty basic fact that women entering the workplace dropped the overall value of work... the main thing is whether you disagree with it being good/ worth it or bad and it's cool to fall on either side of that but to dismiss it as a crazy conspiracy is a little retarded. Society has changed and evolved in a lot of way and this is one of them. I'm not saying it's a bad thing but it is a thing.

This guy is saying it's a bad thing: >>40723810

>>40717370
1. workout at library to become engineer
2. get a lot of work experience or fly jetcrafts for 1000 hours
3. work on your health, blood pressure and stuff
4. become/be us citizen
5. wait til nasa recruits new cosmonauts
6. join space program
7. fly away

>>40723851
>Sleep apnea gone
>Heartburn gone
>No longer winded by stairs
If this is wrong, I don't want to be right

>>40717837

You great about pill mills all the time, but is it hard to find a doctor that will prescribe test?

>>40724511

You hear**

>>40717359
Do they at least offer euthanasia?

>>40723749
>tripfag
>retard

checks out

>>40717892
I have had horomonal issues for the longest and go at least 2x yearly to a doctor to get labs done.

Never once has a doctor told me I had to fast and sleep 8 hours for accurate results.

What in the fuck?

>>40717679
HUGE myth.
t.formermilitarywithnohealthcare

>>40724069
Yeah, the problem is that the technology and paradigm shift in how people view and use things in society would pretty much destroy many businesses and upset the livelihoods and positions of a lot of people in power.

>>40717225
fuck it im gonna hop on the rons
fucking mental illness tranny fags I'm going to lift hard and then beat the shit out of them in barfights

>>40717359
whole West was being brainwashed since young. That way of doing things (destroying family values, good is bad, bad is good etc.) is in marxist literature.
Fortunately young people prefer internet to tv, so media influence is decreasing. You can observe that in statistics. Apparently generation Z is the most conservative since inquisition.

>>40717837
low normal is enough to make gains. In physiological range it doesn't really matter. Unless you're literally 150ng/l

>>40720485
customs in my country tend to unpack foreign shipments.
>hey anon, what are these vials?
>i-it's just Chinese tea
actually they unpacked my Chinese mah huang
fortunately they didn't know what it is I think. Tho it might be just as well legal. It's just ephedra tea.

Yes lets keep encouraging mental illness. Lets keep encouraging people to do horrific things to themselves like throwing off their hormones and self mutilation.

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>>40717648
this mildly triggered me.
i been working out natty for 8 years now and i am happy with the gains i made, but i keep thinking about running a low dosage of 250mg test-e e5d. i know for a fact that i would make great gains and keep most of it once i finished the cycle. i wouldn't even think twice if i had a doctor who would accompany me during the cycle.

>>40717225
Why the fuck is this is encouraged

These people will never be happy with themselves

>>40717553
>T. Ideologically blinded libertarian

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>>40724705
>m-m-m-muh tripfag!
It's okay lad, I understand that not everyone is fit for raising children properly, but you don't need to keep bullshitting.

>>40719601
kys you mentally ill faggot

>>40727214
250 is basically normal levels, not super worth it. If you're gonna test at east do 350 ideally 500.

>>40723634
Paul Mchugh's assertions that got John Hopkins to stop doing those surgeries are actually misinterpretations from a swedish study lol
i know this is probably troll bait but at least research before you say shit

>>40727233
Queers in power want it, to lower birth rates, to destroy the family unit, and to create a permanent base of "sick" people who will always need medicine.
It's the same reason obesity and body dysmorphia and heedless consumption is pushed and normalized in society.

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>>40717225
test is only ilegal for you if you are retarded

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>>40727930
burn it with fire

kek lads, they aren't that hard to find. if in uk use main the clearnet review site and pick a high rated one. if in us use plebbit one on the clearnet ranking site.

Choose an established lab with customer blood test reviews, buy bitcoin and use encrypted email. Simple.

>post story about ones terrible social skills and body dysmorphia
hang in there buddy! we all gonna make it!

>post that you are mentally ill and want to be opposite gender
FUCK YOU KILL YOURSELF LOSER

wtf bros just because society is a bit fucked on this issue atm doesnt mean you should put ppl down for something that is most likely out of their control. nobody chooses to be mentally ill

>>40728009
*use plebbit sst

>>40728009
>buy bitcoin and use encrypted email
sounds like a lot of work.

>>40727930
no wonder everyone hates white people.

>>40724024
supply and demand

double the supply without doubling the demand

wow look prices have dropped like a rock

now instead of people building a family they're busy building a career and becoming the ultimate consumer of food sex and entertainment.

>>40728064
5 minutes to set up tutanota mail. At most a couple hours to join coinbase, verify id, add card and buy btc and also download mycelium to store bitcoin on your phone.

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You are janoy tier retarded if you can't figure those steps out.

>>40727977
what do you mean? did you get a prescription?

it's very hard to get where I live (Norway)

>>40728009
Use eroids you gimps. No dark web. Great quality gear. Country specific

NB MODS THJS ISNT A SOURCE. ITS A SOIRCE REBIEW SITE

>>40728143
That's what I mean by clear net review site. Still use bitcoin though.

>>40717225
I hate dykes so fucking much

>>40728143
i'll wait till im 30 or something.

>>40728316
I am going to wait till 40-50 when I need it the most

>>40728260
Since the whole "hot chicks fucking as foreplay" and "dykes are good bros" thing has been proven to be a lie...they are really only good for hatefucking and quasi rape.

Used to basically rape a bulldyke who claimed she was a transexual. Pussy was tight as a vice, she was vocal and I could make her cum as easily as flicking a fucking light switch.
Hated her guts actually, she didn't liked me much either.
But that cunt would spread her fucking thighs or bend over for me in a second if I so much humped the air in her general direction.

>>40717370
1x1 rocket launches

>>40719601
You want to be /fit/'s friend?
Get a ton of test and steroids and sell them on the side
BAM you got money and the hearts of everyone

>>40728395
ew

>>40728464
>implying my doc would give me more than the bare minimum amount of testosterone I need

>>40728528
Then go to multiple doctors.
This is basically the best time to milk being a tranny, so exploit that shit and demand roids and test and claim discrimination if they don't give it to you., become the tranny drug lord of /fit/.

>>40728465
Hey, it was better then jacking off and it was therapeutic. Had a lot of rage I needed to get out.

>>40717837
>He also wants to charge me to discharge each and every lab result to another doctor for a fee of $45 each.
Threaten legal action on that, guy shouldn't have any right to those results.

>>40728554
I might as well bamboozle the system for profit ig

>>40718477
Cops will only take your gear away and maybe get a violation fine if you posess a small amount for personal use

Same with mild drugs

>>40719601
>transman

what is that supposed to mean? are you a man with makeup or a woman in jeans and a hoodie?

>>40728695
the kind with a real pusspuss

>>40728720
cut it off and give it to me

>>40727898
i know, but i'd rather gain 3kg of mass and keep 2kg after the cycle instead of gaining 10kg and keeping 7kg with a higher probability of side effects. not sure if it really works like that as i am still a noob when it comes to roids, but that's at least my logic.

>>40728757
Either way you are shut down

>>40728720

So not a trans-man, you're a wo-man

>>40729200
gril, cuntboy, degenerate, if u will
multiple terms work 4 me

>>40718823
>Problem is, there's no solution. A good start though would not be paying fuckwits to have more and more kids.

literally just cut off all "aid" to africa, the middle east, and india. and close the borders. the overpopulation problem will take care of itself within a single decade.

>>40724088
Not an argument

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>>40721173
You'd still know it was me if I censored out eyes.

I've been told I look like Phil Nevilke, but better looking, or Robin Lord Taylor (the guy who plays the Pengiun in Gotham, not that I've ever watched it). Pic related, though I don't have a crooked nose, my skin is nicely tanned not pasty as fuck, and my hair isn't that of a 13 year old emo circa 2002.

>>40723145
Possibly. How did you know? I didn't mention anything about my face shape until this post.

>>40723749
Agreed, and I preach that shit about peace all the time on here. It's a pet hate that people like the retards on /pol/ go on and on about the end of the world, yet we only need to sort out the ISIS clusterfuck and we will have world peace.

But that doesn't mean we're not vastly overpopulated. It's fine now, but pretty much all third world poverty is now caused by overpopulation. In the modern world, there's literally no other excuse.

>>40723866
Most Test is readily available and bought on the clearweb, no reason to use the deep web. Most is also UGL, but there are endless examples and sources that are perfectly fine and work well.

>>40724069
It is, but not as bad. Solar also causes really bad environmental damage, wind is unreliable as a base-load power source. Germany learnt this the hard way several years back.

>>40729276
Agreed, but we can't do that realistically can we? Anyway, that only works for Africa. India, China, and most of the Middle East are perfectly self-sustainable and we need them more than they need us.