Why do so many guys not train their legs ? Do they not see how

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>>40714893

xo

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am I doing it right op?

im 6'3

>>40714893
they're going for the spongebob look. you're just jelly because you can't pull it off

>>40714893
inb4 hordes of "aesthetics"fags enter this thread flexing their 11'' biceps in anger

>tfw hurt shoulder
>can no longer focus on gorilla bench press chest
> now, squat and deadlift are best friends
Some day I will have nice legs, lads.

>tfw the 16 year old deadlifting next to you is doing 460 lb
Kills me.

>>40714893
they aren't athletes and instead simply workout because it is something they enjoy and it makes they feel good about how they look neither of which require them to train their legs.

the real question is why are you so obsessive about what exercises other men are doing

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>>40714924
Totally

>>40714933
>>TFW when squats and deads were your favorite but your physical therapist tells you that you still can't do them yet...

>>40714893

joff has acl surgery, he has an excuse. I had a friend that tore his and these injuries are no joke. They are very hard to recover from and take a lot of rehabilitation. You're also critiquing a successful physique competitor who many women would willing throw their pussy at. Stay mad OP

>>40714893
Easier to find abd wear pants. That's why most models don't train them.

>>40714893
It's disgusting when I'm a DYEL skelly and I see buff guys with legs smaller than mine when they lay on the bench to bench/incline press.

I have thicc legs for my weight though

>>40714893
But Seid's legs aren't smol he's just got a ridiculous frame and is a secret manlet

Training legs for size is stupid unless you're a bodybuilder or lazy powerlifter.
You don't need big legs to be a good athlete, strong and explosive sure, but huge power/oly lifter quads? nah.

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>>40714971

s-ssure nfl and rugby players which are best team sport strenght atlethes in world dont have big legs

in real sport legs are literally most important

you want strong chest, core and legs nobody cares about arms

>>40714971
I never said you need huge legs. Read the thread . I was asking why some don't train their legs at all. I'm saying it looks stupid to train your upper body all the time and never train your lower body. You will be disproportionate and not very athletic if you never train your legs. You don't have to have huge legs to achieve the aforementioned, but you do have to at least train legs sometime

>>40714908

Girls like butts though

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>>40714955
:( lad!

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>>40714893
Wot? I don't like Joff but he has legs.

>>40714917
intimidating for those who know. Just your average Joe for the rest. Girls won't fall for this, that's for sure

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>>40714893
My male friends say they don't work out their legs because "they already got enough muscle there".

>>40715144
It's the most logical to keep your 1RM bench and squat the same weight. Means you've balanced your upper and lower body.

>>40715131
HAHAHAHA
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

Big thighs, no calves, little hand.
Jeez

>>40715131
Yes but what about off cycle?

>>40714893
>>40715131
Op is literally retarded.

>>40715224
no, you should keep your OHP the same weight as your Squat.

this means you have to do OHP every single day

>>40715250
calves are incredibly difficult to build up.

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>>40714971
>You don't need big legs to be a good athlete
lol

>>40715224
In no way shape or form will I be benching 455 any time soon, friendo. I'm 100 pounds away from that goal
>tfw can't bench the squat weight, forever disproportionate

>>40715250
I bet you're fat, aren't you

>>40715260
This. I always OHP my squats to make sure my shoulders have legs

>>40715017
The train for strength, not size. Read the fucking comment lol

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>>40714893
Jeff has good legs he just has ridiculously broad shoulders. His lower body will never compare width-wise

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>>40715293
Yeah just look at all these athletes with their small legs

i balance my physique by making sure my legs don't get too large. whatever i curl, that what i squat.

>>40715357
Jeff is a calf-let tho

>>40715138

well since im 6'3 i intimadate a lot of ppl just by being big and staring at them

>>40715085
hard, round, gropeable butts.

>>40715399
Why is there always that guy who can only point out bad things

>>40714917
looks like you have tumors on your upper legs.. go get that checked breh

>>40715387
but those are small legs?

>>40715250
Calves are genetic.

>>40715254
>pros
>ever going off cycle

>>40714893
because training legs is harder than training upper body, and is much less rewarding in terms of aesthetics gained

>>40714935
wow this
>>40715413
crabs in a bucket, most of the people coming here are total losers with no redeeming qualities

>>40714933
how did you hurt shoulder so i can avoid it

>>40715024
99% of the people who fucktard on about this bullshit are retards who follow a plan that does the exact fucking opposite of that though.
99% effort and work is focused on or indirectly works the legs and you end up with huge thighs that suck up all of the test(which is a finite resource in your body)in your body to maintain it's mass and function.

Naturals have to make a choice. Even muscle distribution(which no one actually gives a fuck about, not even the people who make fun of people who only work their upper body) big upper body(which intimidates men and pulls bitches) or big lower body(which intimidates no one and makes you look like a woman).

>>40715271
Proportionlet kys

>>40715413
can't critique physique contenders for flaws in their physiques, got it

>>40715632
There isn't much to do about calves, though

>>40715413
he's just damage controlling since he doesn't want to admit Jeff has breddy good legs

>>40715578
>99% effort and work is focused on or indirectly works the legs and you end up with huge thighs that suck up all of the test(which is a finite resource in your body)in your body to maintain it's mass and function.
This is complete bullshit, just look at weighlifters and powerlifters.

Middle of my back hurts after squatting today. I felt a small tweak during the third set but did two more after just fine. Any ideas?

>>40715667
You mean the group that injects testosterone into their ass on a daily basis?

Yes, tell me all about the infinite supply of external testerone and god knows what else they fucking inject into themselves.

>>40715357
>roiding for this

>>40714908
>nearly <current year> + 2
>girls don't give e a flying about legs
this guy doesn't fuck, meaty hams and glutes or bust

>>40715683
Your form sucks

Probably also going to deep and losing tension in the hole. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOaO0aG2x90

See how he loses all tension as he drops into the bottom (catch) position and then retenses on the way up? This is a part of weightlifting technique, yes, but is suboptimal for powerlifting as you are working with far greater loads, work on stopping just below parallell instead of descending further.

>>40715250
What do you look like

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>>40715720
Here's a natty PL, doesn't look disproportionate at all to me, in fact he looks well-rounded and athletic.

>>40715808
>PL
>athletic

>>40715808
>Here's a natty PL, doesn't look disproportionate at all to me, in fact he looks well-rounded and athletic.
he would look good if he was clean shaven or had a goatee, why does he wear the shitty beard?

>>40714893
The fuck is the point of being in shape if you still deal with chub rub?

>>40715758
thanks ill work on it

>>40715815
If you ask me, that guy looks like he'd do well in any sport if he just put his mind to it, especially being that size helps.
>>40715819
who knows, maybe he was trying to grow a viking beard.

>>40715263
but simple. you need to train them everyday, multiple times.
3x20 calf raises for each foot three times a day.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/no-weights-calf-training

>>40714917
as a 6'0 200 lb powerlifter i can say thats beautiful

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>>40715808
>Natty
Bitch, get your simple ass out of here.

>>40714893

fucking idiots i swear posting pictures in jeans or shorts where you can only see calves.

B-BUT HE SKIPPED LEG DAY!! I HURDDD TRAINING LEGSS IS COOL MAN!! HAHA ONLY PUSSY BOY DONT TRAIN LEG XDXDXD

>>40715131
>>40715357

Jeff has better legs than any of you will ever have even taking the same shit he does

>>40715808
Lets be real. He looks like shit.

>>40715842
>maybe he was trying to grow a viking beard

Nigger, his mustache doesn't even connect with his neckbeard.

>>40714917
People who dont know anything about lifting propably think you have big salamis or metal pipes or something in your pockets

mirin

>>40715808
lmao you can't even put aesthetics and this guy in the same sentence

>>40715859
He's an international level Norwegian athlete, which means he is subject to random doping tests at least once per month, I'd be curious to hear how you suppose he manages to avoid being caught.
>>40715868
Really? I think he looks strong, athletic and proportionate.
>>40715877
I didn't say it was a successful attempt.

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big legs give you great symmetrical power but you fall apart when you're not moving in a straight line

thing legs are agile and generally more useful unless your life revolves around standing in place while holding 500 lbs

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How much did he squat ?

>>40715138
>autism
>the post

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>>40714924

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>>40714893
>Why do so many guys not train their legs ?
Because they aren't a man

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How much did he squat..?

>>40716405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yrUenyGeA4

this is what tyson did in jail lmao

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>>40715131
>>40714893
>Thinking IFBB Men's Physique don't have legs simply because they pose in shorts

The shorts are there so they look like they don't have big legs and have a beach body.

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>>40716297
Do curl bros use ancient rituals to transfer muscle from their calfs into their arms?

>>40715988
>strong
Yes.
>athletic
No.
>proportionate
No. He looks short and stumpy.

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>>40716462
Same guy, in competition shape, posing with a semi.

>>40714971
>You don't need big legs to be a good athlete

then why do all elite football and rugby players have a donkey booty and thicc legs? n-no homo

>>40714893
I can't train legs too much because of fucking fat distribution in thighs, I'd become a TREX in no time

I don't train my legs. Guys who obsessively train legs, talk about leg day, talk about other peoples legs & skipping leg day are the biggest tools on the planet. They all fell for the leg day memes a few years ago and now think they're hot shit. In reality they look retarded. More so than the people they make fun of for not training legs.

uhh .. that is in proportion

.. what exactly is this thread about?

>>40716523

pussy excuse I bet you are not even close to 29'

>>40715988
>He's an international level Norwegian athlete, which means he is subject to random doping tests at least once per month, I'd be curious to hear how you suppose he manages to avoid being caught.

You still fucking believe that ANY fucking pro at any fucking level is fucking natty on any fucking level?

Are you fucking retarded?

Fucking look at him. He's on ridiculous amounts of gear.

>>40716570
>curlbro
>calling others tools for training their whole body
Ayyyyy

>>40716424
>be prison guard
>inmate keeps asking for a deck of cards
>he's actually behaving well, so you speak to the warden and eventually his got his deck
>go check on him to see if he's playing solitaire or doing some weird shank with the dec
>see an autist picking cards from the floor

>>40716570
having tree trunk legs and a SS-tier upper body admittedly looks retarded, but actually being big and having literal stick legs looks even more absurd.

The same reason why 99% of girls who aren't trained by their boyfriends only work legs and never their upper body.
Why bother on something you know the opposite sex doesnt care about and the same sex neglects too.

If I'm in the gym 3 days a week, why waste a day on legs? If I'm there 5 days, why make that into 4 days + a leg day where I'm making basically no gains for the muscles I care about. Why waste time training a muscle group just so insecure people wont pick on you?

Granted I've been working legs as long as I've been lifting, but I can definitely see why guys ignore it, just as I can see why girls neglect upper body.

But a guy with solid legs and glutes, along with a great upper body will always look better than guys with no legs.
Same way a girl who actually knows how to train and has a well shaped upper body will look better than a girl who just squats every day.

The main reason I train legs is so I can be strong enough to effortlessly carry around gf or sister on my shoulders. It's fun to be able to pick up people and stuff. It makes for a fun way to show off gains at events or parties without being a flexing asshole.
Also it's hilarious to play beer pong with a mate and run the table with him sitting on your shoulders the entire time.
That and I cant feel like a monster while I deadlift heavy ass weights without having strong legs.

>>40716717
>SS/SL powerlifting fag
>Implying your entire workout doesn't mainly focus around legs
>Implying you fags don't spit on anyone who works on or wants to work on their upper body

Go away. Adults are talking.

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>>40716748
let's be realistic here. the people who have stick legs and can grow a big upper body are genetic freaks. your legs, unlike your upper body, have a naturally powerful stimulus built right into them. if you walk, run, jog, jump, ride a bike and do any kind of activity on your feet, your legs will already be far stronger than an untrained upper.

>>40716775
Carrying random people on your shoulder isn't a flexy way to show off?
Dude, looking good without a shirt on and with a shirt on doesn't make me an asshole. Being that faggot that says LET ME PUT YOU ON MY SHOULDERS!! MUH LEGS R REEEL STRUNG!! makes you look like a try hard.

2-3 sets of squats and 1 set of deadlifts A WEEK is more then enough for the average man.

>>40714959
Jeans are just plain uncomfortable for me to wear, now. I leave the belt loose and wear them as far down as possible otherwise they chafe.

Sweatpants bum master race.

>tfw girl next to me who squats more than me says I should put the bar lower
>implies mid bar but that doesn't feel natural and I can't even move it down
>leaning too forward as I do high bar squat
Is this even a problem ?

>>40716855
If you think putting your little sister on your shoulders so she can see over a crowd and actually watch a concert makes you look like a try hard, you've got some issues.

Any non autist wont be running around shirtless nor doing that bullshit you said every chance he gets. It's just fun to be able to do on occasion, when appropriate. You dont have to jump to either extreme, m8.

>>40716602
I like training legs but they are much bigger than upper, what can I do? I'm still squatting twice a week

>>40717015

Any retard can do that you idiot, you don't need monster quads to lift a 10 year old girl on your shoulders.

Jesus Christ this board drives me insane. The idiocy is immeasurable. Just admit you lift for girls because you're 18 and we can move on.

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>Tfw calves won't grow
>Hit 3 pl8 squat for reps and I am still worried people see my legs as chicken legs because of my fucking calves

>>40717015
If you need to squat 5x5 3 times a week along with a lot of other direct and indirect leg work to put a girl that weighs no more then 120 pounds on your shoulder, then you're a bitch.

The average decently trained curl bro can do that. Or do you think their 200+ pound overhead presses and heavy as fuck curls doesn't indirectly train their legs?

>>40715866
You pointed out the only two people not talking shit about Jeff's legs idiot

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>quads grow the fastest
>upper body work takes the longest to see significant gains and actually look like you lift

The leg day shit is garbage spouted by people that don't lift. It's insecurity of new lifters looking for a way to feel superior to those that have put in way more time in the gym than themselves. No one is going to look like they have huge legs in jeans unless the jeans are way too tight.

Inexperienced people can easily confuse high calf insertions with small calves on a dude that wears below the knee shorts. Fuck, in the Mr. Olympia stream there were morons complaining about guys not working their calves when they just had well developed calves with high insertions.

>>40714950
>gloves

>>40714917
Are you that guy who used to be a fat fag and now think you're a chad?

>>40717486

I quoted their picture to prove my point he trains legs fucking idiot

>>40718065

nah, 2 years ago I was 6'3 175lbs

wouldnt say I was fat lmao

My quads just grow and grow, so Im 6'3 225lbs and my quads are big bois now

>>40716778
>When you make logical fallacies, projections and generalizations then claim to be an adult
hahahhahahahahahahhaa
You're mentally a child m8

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>tfw have really long femurs, train legs, and still look like a mardi gras puppet

>>40716424
this...this is literally just bodyweight squats

>>40716484
/fit/ told competition shape meant it was impossible to get a boner

>>40718214
Bruh, the only people on this entire site who make a big damned deal about having small legs are SS and SL fags. And they always have unbelievably shit bottom heavy bodies.

>>40714908
>DateTime.Today.Year;
>lifting for girls

>>40715866
jeff pls go

>>40714917
this is why a lot of guys dont train their legs to get massive

it looks fucking horrible >>40714893

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WHY

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bit worried im becoming disproportionate lads

i squat 120kg and only bench 65kg

what do you think?

>>40719724
what the fuck picture is this

>>40719724
nice quad sweep bro

now post picture from the back so we can check glutes & hammies

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>these jeans were loose on me a year ago

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>>40714893

Fun fact : only homosexuals(the ugly, bear kind) are into having fat thunder thighs.

Normal people, heterosexual women, cute femboys and sexy trans are absolutely repulsed by men with big legs.

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>>40721361
?

>>40718431
Like anyone on /fit/ ever competed.

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>>40721517
>cute femboys and sexy trans

>>40721848
casual and adie competed.

>>40715578
Wow this is a new level of broscience.

>>40714908
>Lastname

ISIS is going deep undercover these days

>>40716611hes developed and lean. In real life he is so much smaller than you think. Like really.

>>40721744
>Awesome pics.
>Great size.
>Look thick.
>Solid.
>Tight.

>>40721936
People have a finite amount of test is not and has never been broscience.

If you work on one part of the body and it's huge, a good chunk of your test will be tied in maintaining it.

Meaning, big as fuck thighs means not much test for your upper body.

Which is why all guys who do this workout end up bottom heavy big cored and nothing going on with their upper back chest and arms.

Anyone who isn't like that, was doing a bodybuilding program and claimed they were doing ss/sl or whatever babbies first powerlifting program is popular this moment or they are on gear.

>>40715085
they only say that to fit in with guys

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>>40716935
It's most likely ankle mobility issue. If you don't have sufficient dorsiflexion in ankles you'll compensate it by leaning forward to achieve depth. This is fine in low bar squatting since the bar rests atop of your rear delts and the center of mass stays on top of your foot since you stick your butt out like you would in a good morning. If you try to do the same with high-bar squats the center of mass will shift forwards as you lean forward and you'll fall over
pic related but shittily drawn in paint

>>40721744
Don't do it you newfag
Some gay cunt is wanking to that

>>40722178
The guy who posted that is obviously a gay cunt as well and probably wanked to the fact that other gay cunts were wanking to it.

>>40716611
>pro
lol no

>>40722234
Ah so your typical geared up amature?
Okay, yeah, that totally proves he's not on ridiculous amounts of gear.

>>40721385
honestly this looks fucking dumb.

>>40722153
people have different proportions. Which means that someone will have a high-bar squat that looks like a low bar, and its perfectly fine. Because thats the most optimal way for them to squat.

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>>40717439
>Or do you think their 200+ pound overhead presses and heavy as fuck curls doesn't indirectly train their legs?
lmfao. You're delusional. Enjoy being weak. All talk, no action.

>>40722337
You're fucking stupid and know less then nothing about how the human body works or have ever interacted with anyone who's ever been in a gym or worked out before.
This fucking forum and the internet is all you know of fitness, people who workout or people who are just generally fit.

>>40716484

You gotta have a pump wherever you can...

>>40715017
>in real sport legs are literally most important
Lmao.

gymnastics
wrestling
boxing
judo
MMA

Lmao.

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>>40715808
>in fact he looks well-rounded and athletic.

>>40722576
>wrestling
>boxing
>judo
>MMA
>legs not important in any of those
wew, read LITERALLY any article about designing a training program for a wrestler for example and you'll see plenty of lower body work.

>>40717402
Dedicate more time to seated and standing calf raises retard.

>>40722576
You are one of those guys that think a big bicep will give you insane punches, aren't you?

>>40717439
I agree with this anon.

Balancing a 120 lbs human on your shoulders would fuck with your core more than your legs.

That heavy of an OHP would mean they have a strong core.

>>40714893
Notice how all of the roiders have huge legs? I personally think people on gear (e.i. Jeff seif, zyzz, arnold) didn't have huge legs just so they look less like they are on roids if they didnt idk though

>>40717546
I have both quads and calves bigger than upperbody and I don't train them as much as upper-body

>>40716267

He likely did not do any conventional strength training as during his era weight lifting was still evolving and it was only seen as something that could slow a fighter down.

He would have done a great deal of "functional" strength training that would have been be viewed in the day as weight training, but not negatively affect speed.

If he were training today without a doubt he would work with weights in a serious way.

sprints (or interval training on a bike)
kettlebell swings (or RDL)

are all that you need for a strong, good looking ass hammies and quads.

stick legs are disgusting, but oversized legs are even more disgusting

sprints + swings is the best combination you can do, 2-3 times per week, and get strong but not oversized legs.

>>40715808
He's rounded alright

>>40722337
> heavy OHP doesn't work your posterior chain

nigger try clenching your glute the next time you OHP, I guarantee it'll help

>>40715808
"natty"


what the fuck m8

>>40716784
>actually believes anyone on here walks, runs, jumps, climbs or rides a bike

people here sit on ass 20h a day, then take car to the gym, ride up the escalator to the gym, do 3x5 of some heavy squats/deads or bench

then car back home

>>40722576
Real sports are team sports

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>>40718432
Haha.
Legs are aesthetic as fuck you fucking simpleton

Look at this guy, he has a big upper body as well as big legs.

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>>40724130
You're cherrypicking
I could easily do so to prove the opposite point

>>40724164
> posts a guy that looks like garbage

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>>40714893
moderate hairy legs and ass are incredible sexy

source: my own taste in guys, and literally every other femanon i know except for one (who is a hamplanet)

>>40723893
I kek'd

>>40724171
>garbage
>fit enought to get cast in muscle porn- the movie
Hm

>>40724184
Can attest. I have literal fur on my legs, chest and arms which I fucking hate yet my gf goes nuts over it, she loves it. I'd shave it all if it weren't such a hassle.

>>40724184
talking about fit/muscular legs and ass here in case it wasnt obvious

dont neglect your squats guys, we love it just as much as you

>>40724216
i dont like shaved legs on guys and i dont like really thick hair, there is a sweetspot in the middle which is just doing sth to my head

but each to their own

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>>40724164
>Cherry
>picking

>>40724969
Who's physique is this

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>>40724969
Oh my god.

This picture is turning me gay at this very instant.

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>>40724991
>>40724990
Sometimes I just wish I could get it up to men, but I am just one of the guys who try to achieve that look.

No idea who that is.

>>40724130
thing is you could trim is thighs down a few notches and he'd look more aesthetic

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>>40716194

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>>40723543
you realize many of the top mma fighters don't so heavy squats and deads either. in fact georges pierre flat out said he doesn't strength train abd only lifts to look good. tell me how often anderson silva did heavy squats and deads.

in fact it seems to me like the most functional people almost all stray from heavy leg training

how many powerlifters are good at anything other than picking up a heavy barbell? majority can't do anything else unless it's another strength "sport". you can always find exceptions of course but to me the best way to train legs is to fucking move and not stand in place.

>>40722576
https://youtu.be/qWGWPcM2YHQ

Look at those skinny legs, no need for leg strength at all in gymnastics. Any of these leglets can do that on an off-day.

>>40722602

Any professional martial artist trains on the basis that a strike or strong-grapple is initiated from the ground up.


You want to punch hard? You need to anchor from the back foot, with every muscle from there to the striking hand tensing in succession to produce a whip-lash effect. To test this, punch something from a sitting position: isolating the movement to the upper body alone. Then try again whilst taking a stance and twisting your back foot heel inwards (like you're putting out a cigarette butt) at the start of the strike. I can guarantee that the standing stance will produce far more force. Why? Because you're recruiting more muscles.

Same principle with grappling. If you want to hurl someone over your hip who's the same weight as you, you will not be able to do that with upper body muscles alone. Your legs will be critical in anchoring your body during the move.

TL;DR: this guy has no idea how a fighter's physique works.

>>40726256
you realize working your upper puts more weight on your lower so if you aren't a fat lazy retard or have the worst genes of all time you'll get stronger legs by working your upper body

>>40726256
Fucking thumbnail faggot

>>40726290
>citation needed

His prior training involved both strength and gymnastics training. He may not personally train beyond lifting to look good, but his trainers sure as hell had him on strength and plyometric training.


http://m.uk.ufc.com/media/ufc-primetime-st-pierre-condit-episode-1

http://m.uk.ufc.com/media/ufc-primetime-st-pierre-condit-episode-2

>>40726298
>You want to punch hard? You need to anchor from the back foot
lolnope. punching hard is about 99% upper body. you want to punch hard punch more often. train your serratus anterior. the only instances where anchoring comes heavily into play is the off chance you get to do a fucking running wind up punch or some crazy shit like that. some of the hardest hitting boxers of all time never did a single weighted squat or deadlift. in fighting you want your legs to first and foremost have infinite endurance and second be able to dance around quickly. that's why they do so much jump rope and running. endurance + quickness kills in fighting when combined with a strong upper body.

>>40726310
Fat people have no issues with mobility at all for this reason. In fact they are the strongest of us all, with all that extra weight to lug around.

>>40726359
yes but note he said he would not be doing it unless it improved his aesthetic appearance. google it it's all over the internert. furthermore i can give countless examples of mma and boxers at the top of the food chain who rarely if ever did heavy squats and deads.

>>40714893
implying jeff leg isn't good

>>40726381
an untrained fatty will have far more muscle than a skinny so yes i have no clue what you're on about otherwise. all the extra fat reduces the athletic efriciency the muscle is capable of producing so there's your raisin.

>>40716462
sadik has the most punchable face in the world holy shit

>>40714917
god damn son

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>>40724990
>>40724991

Hes called texasholdem28 on tumblr.

His dick is literally 9 inches, but luckily he doesnt make me feel totally inferior - to counter his godly physique and huge penis, the gods of genetics also have him an IQ of like 85.

>>40726402
The principle point of your argument is the notion that your increase in mass as a result of training will naturally result in an increase in leg strength.

I'm not disputing this, simple physics.

What I am disputing is your suggestion that the maximum gain of 25lb of muscle mass per year serves well as a progressive load to your legs.

Especially comparing the results of this to a training progamme that includes specific leg workouts.

>>40726384
The point of this discussion is whether leg training is proven to be beneficial to professional athletes. Neither you or I know the specific training regimes the fighters undertook, what I do know is the professional trainers they made use of have a background in athletic fields that require specific leg training. Ergo, the fighters were instructed in leg training to prepare for their fights. They may not have done this in terms of their own self-directed training, but the professional trainers would certainly have made sure they had functional strength.

Also I hate that the term functional strength is now interchangeable with crossfit. Fucksake.

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>>40726360
Look at this amateur. Using his backfoot AND legs in a punch that could knock a heavy bag to a near horizontal position.

Clearly he needed you in his life, friendo.

>>40726360
Also why do people in this thread keep stating "they didn't do squats and deadlifts"

The point here is leg-specific training. There are other option beyond those two exercises.

>>40726447
But the quote chain you're responding to has nothing to do with how best to add leg mass it's rather stating it's of questionable value as the best methods for doing so are typically counter to maintaining the most aethletic legs possible. Big legs will give you good straight away strength but when you have to start dancing in a ring or on a bball court, they're a hindrance. Most things I do in life where I must rely heavily upon my legs aren't standing in place squatting down with 500 lbs on my back nor are they picking 500 lbs up from the floor. The best way to train legs is very specific to your goals and the notion that squats and deads are more functional is absolute hogwash. Many of the most functional people I've ever seen never barbell back squat or deadlift.

>>40726551

see

>>40726549

At what point did I say that they used those two exercises? The point here was a programme including specific leg training. I read from your posts that you believed that professional MMA fighters didn't do this, I queried this knowing that many top fighters make use of trainers with sports backgrounds that do make use of this.

If I misunderstood and you were simply stating that MMA fighters don't do squats and diddlies, then I'm with you. Far more useful to develop endurance and explosive power.

>>40726549
It's more a question on the value of building bulky legs. Nobody is claiming your legs will perform well by not using them.

>>40714950
I don't understand how their legs get so skinny. My legs have never in my life been that skinny.

>>40726581
see
>>40726593

>>40726593
I don't necessarily think that a professional-level athlete trains to make anything specifically bulky at all.

If a muscle group gains volume as a result of the training in their specific sport, then that's a byproduct - not a goal.

I got the impression from other posts that anons thought professional athletes didn't bother with lower body because it didn't serve a purpose in many sports >>40722576

I clearly got the wrong end of the stick as a result of shit posts and bait. My bad.

>>40726360
Your post is about the opposite of what is actually true.

t. a person who's actually trained a day in his life

>>40715467
Are you retarded or were you dropped on the head as a child?

>>40715467
By what metric?!

>>40726601

I remember a post from the dude in the picture saying he had injured/broken his leg.

>>40715144
Same here.he says he has legs big enough funny when i have 1.5 times his legs

>>40726658
right so mike tyson must not have been able to punch at all since he did precisely zero heavy leg work even tho he's considered to have one of thw hardest hitting punches of all time. but surely had he burnt himself out doing fatsquats he'd be morer betterrerer

>>40715224
Your legs muscles (quads and harmstrings) Are the strongest and bigger muscles in your body so equal weight lift has no sense. For example you should deadlift 450 lbs squat 350 and 280

>>40715224
Do you walk on your hands all day, senpai?

>>40726290
"heavy leg training makes you immobile"
oly lifters disagree, there are ways to stay mobile

>>40716405
Actually 500 a day. His rouyine was 500 push ups 500 squats and 100 pull ups

>>40722576
shitty b8

>>40726777
exactly, they are already the bigest muscle in your body, there isn't much sense on making them even bigger, unless you want to look bad, look at jeff, his legs are amazing, they are big enough and shredded as fuck, and look at his upperbody, also perfect, thats it, if you need an ego booster because you can't bench heavy or be aesthetic thats your problem

>>40726747
>he did precisely zero heavy leg work
>>40714893
>Why do so many guys not train their legs ?

Statement one: heavy leg work is training your legs
Statement two: training your legs requires heavy leg work

One of these statements is true.

>>40726960
i'm not opie dumpass

>>40726940
I have a set of scales that are balanced with an empty cup of water on one side and a half-full cup of water on the other side.

If I wish to add more water so as to maintain balance, is this achievable by filling one cup alone? Or do I have to fill both cups equally?

If I wish to train my body in a balanced fashion, is this achievable by training my upper body alone? Or do I have to train both that and my lower body equally?

>>40726986
Okay, I'll break out the potato stamps and paints for you.

The point of this thread was to discuss the merits of training your legs, or not.

The points you make in your posts only consider heavy training.

My point is that you've neglected the idea of leg training that doesn't involve heavy weights.

Only people who care about legs are the retards who have shit upper bodies because it's literally so easy to build legs, just squat maybe twice a week and done

>>40726825
nah it was mostly ring work, cycling, running, jump rope and the rest upper.

he did squat i guess if you could call it that = quarter reps with no lockout using lmao3plate = about a 1 plate atg squat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbYqXbhhCg8

you see here at around 1:45 he squats down to about quarter way then goes back up but stops before the top

i do these kinda squats too actually except i use an ssb and do them off a spotter pin and overload the fuck outta them. these don't build massive legs they build explosive power.

>>40714971
This is just fucking silly bro

You don't NEED big legs but unless you're a gymnast or something having bigger legs means having stronger legs which means being a better athlete.

If you disagree i suggest watching some sports, clearly you've never done that

>>40727017
nope the point of the thread is to make fun of small legs and i'm saying small legs are often better. smll legs =/= untrained legs but if you're doing a heavy compound routine your legs won't be small. i'm saying such routines and leg size doesn't impress me.

just fucking go outside and run if you want decent calf gains
do long distance up to 10 miles - anything longer is for low testies and fucks up your metabolism

>>40727077
>Quote OP post literally saying "Why do so many guys not train their legs ?"

Please consider a vasectomy.

>>40722699
Legs are the easiest body parts to get huge. Amateur natty powerlifters have enormous legs even if they're not good, and they're not even training for size

>>40714971
Tell Tyron Woodley how his big legs are useless.

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>>40727076
>having bigger legs means having stronger legs which means being a better athlete
can you tell me lebron james barbell back squat 1rm pls....he has a 40" vertical btw. or michael jordan? he has a 48" vertical btw....

Don't strong legs help you box ? That hip movement into the punch?
>tfw only squatting 195 and DL 315
I'm trying, lads...

>>40727112
i never quoted opie dumpass

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>>40724969
>wow look i have two whole pictures of guys who don't look like absolute shit with big legs

>>40726446
>tfw too dumb to be dyel

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>>40727213

Those guys do have big legs, they just arent flexing them

>>40727239
Mine are bigger and I'm a 170lb lanklet who doesn't squat other than when i drop something

>>40727213
Those guys look weird and unnatural though, the upper lower discrepancy is ridiculous and I'm someone that thinks big legs look like shit

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>>40724969
But the reality of the situation is that you look like pic related, not that guy

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>>40727292
Oh ok so youre an out of shape bitter faggot nitpicking guys who look 400% better than you

Pathetic

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>>40727329
Not really

>>40727213
the legs are literally the most unattractive part, the quad looks droopy, soft and weak.

Its not a complete physique, they dont look like athletes, they look like cunts that only lift to impress their mom and some vague bitches

To lift for actual results squat and deadlift

Its both upper body AND legs. Not one or the other.

The other guy posts COMPLETE physiques and you post dyels, whats wrong with you

>>40727530
Are your hands okay mi familia?

>>40727579
squats and deadlifts are shit tier for upper body.

>>40727161
I know you are a brainlet just from the way you type, but please take into consideration how tall basketball players are...

>>40727579
Breaking new anon
All that functional strength and athleticism you get from training legs into trex mode?
You'll never use it other than when you squat at the gym.
This is a pointless argument.

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>>40727726
spud webb won the slam dunk contest with a 42" vertical at 5'7 132 lbs

pls rephrase your responses and try again

>>40727365
Aesthetics are subjective
I'm happier being a fit twig, i get to be stronger than most guys I know with minimum maintenance or work

>>40718025
You mean wrist wraps?

>>40715387
>tfw you will never have the perfect body of an olympic discus thrower
life isnt fair

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>>40715399
bbb-but t-theres still s-stuff wrong with h-him sss-ss-so ya-ya-yy-yeah

r-right b-bros?

>>40727579
They still pull way more ass than your clown-shoes ''''''''''''powerlifter'''''''''' 30zillionpl8 squat physique

>>40727530
Try spreading your legs a bit more and lower the camera to make you more proportionate.

>>40716471
How the fuck is it even possible to have such weak calf muscles?

How the fuck can they even walk? Or rather do they walk?

My calves blew up like crazy after i started walking to work.

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>>40714917
From a /fit/ perspective, I believe it's too unproportional from your calves, and the puffy jacket doesn't help me to gauge it against your upper body, so I can say your outfit is wonky too.

I'd only use the bulky jacket when needed. If inside, I'd either stuff it into my backpack or just carry it around my arm like pic related. Go to a tailor and get your shirts and pants fitted so that they're in the perfect range between hugging your body and a slightly relaxed fit. Some pants that accentuate parts of your legs, but not show off every fucking curavture of the muscle would be ideal.

If possible, I'd just skip the bulky jacket and opt for lightweight layers.

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what "athletic performance" do you gain by having big quads, exactly? was your goal in life to be able to get hit by a car and get ejected as little as possible?

this white boy has more athleticism than any of you. 44" vertical. average leg size.

dudes in the army march all over the place while carrying heavy shit. most of them have what i would consider small legs.

some of the greatest fighters of all time have small legs.

where on earth do you get off thinking big legs are important for being anything but a tool?

guys with small legs are faster, more agile, jump higher, last longer. you are better at being a tree stump. kys

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>>40728383

its ok to admit you just suck and building legs

you dont have to pretend its a good thing - people are allowed to be imperfect, friendo

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>>40728411
You could reword that as "all humans who aren't failures at life maximize their strengths and minimize their weakness"

training for big legs does nothing positive for me so I don't meanwhile you will continue to fall for the meme thus putting yourself in a perpetually self inflicted state of being at a disdvantage

>>40726446
Dick is clearly photoshopped, look at that "waves"

>>40721517
Looks kind of like Jason Blaha.

>>40716424
fuck that, picking up one card but not the card under it, fiddly as fuck.

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Hows my leg?

>>40714893
>>>40715017
>>in real sport legs are literally most important
>Lmao.
>
>gymnastics
>wrestling
>boxing
>judo
>MMA
>
>Lmao.
nice

>>40715250
How does one train hands?

>>40726601

There's only so much you can do for the lower half if you're stuck with chicken legs.

>>40729003
mirin vastus medialis

>>40719724
I mean, you don't need us to tell you that's disproportionate af.

>>40721953
kek

>>40715085
so do guys......

>>40726777
Traps are the strongest muscle.
>mfw rack pulls above the knee