the obesity epidemic

>>40713751
If you know you are addicted and thst the unhealthy food is bad for you, why the FUCK do you still eat too much of it? How about blaming your own fat self instead of shifting the blame you fat cunt. anything above a size large is a fucking disgrace mate.

>>40713786
>How about blaming your own fat self
Enjoy your obesity epidemic.

>>40713751
Every option is better than taking responsibility over yourself amirite

>>40713794
Stay fat. Fat fuck

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>>40713751
Yes. There should be junk food tax. We would think that natural selection will wipe out fat people, but it doesn't. They still keep reproducing and making just as fat and lazy people as themselves.

As for you, OP, you are a literal dumbass. Since you say that you've been working out for 5 years and still have gotten fatter and fatter, I will assume that you are either

1. One of those people who think you can outrun your fork
2. So weak-willed that you can't resist cravings

Listen, even though it's bullshit that we're surrounded by candy and food that we would think were healthy, but are actually packed with sugar, your weight gain is all your fault. Hell, I'm very chubby, but I manage to eat less and healthy to lose weight, and it's very effective. You should read yourself smart on the topic and start all over again.

>>40713844
>1. One of those people who think you can outrun your fork
>2. So weak-willed that you can't resist cravings

This is 3/4 of the people in any developed country.

>>40713751
Here is your fuck (you).

No one is at fault for your own choices other than you yourself.

Retards like you make it already harder and harder for companies and consumers.

People used to do much more labour, people used to spend their time outside or with family, hobbies must often meant some sort of physical exercise.
Values were not broken down.. now no one is being held back by the thought of being fat, because no one shames that anymore.

The poor couldn't get fat because they were poor, now they get welfare.. so a double problem... they don't work AND can still buy shit... should I have to mention that capitalism made everything cheaper and gave more variety than ever before?

Too bad capitalism coupled with retards such as yourself ends up with degeneration and a never ending drift towards government.

>>40713904
I think you're just mad because I proved that you can get a gym pass and still not make it.

>>40713921
>I proved that you can get a gym pass and still not make it.
No. You proved that YOU can get a gym membership and still not make it.

>>40713950
So I'm definitely right. You're just mad that will power isn't enough to succeed, and that the food supply is working against you every step of the way.

>>40713921
>I think you're just mad because I proved that you can get a gym pass and still not make it.
Is this some kind of argument?!

Where is my molyneux folder god damnit.


Fat people can have gym memberships and even visit them frequently.
Doesn't mean fuck all if they don't put in the work, which you obviously don't.

>>40713921
What you're really implying is that because more than ever people are joining gyms, that they're actually going regularly, let alone have a healthy diet. I started going to the gym last year, lasted about 2 months before stopping altogether. Didn't go back until the last week of December. I never cancelled my membership.

>>40713921
> Buy gym membership
> Never go, not even once
Why can't I lose weight, I've got my gym membership!!

I grudgingly agree with OP. Most of the population is too stupid and lazy to be trusted to look after their own well-being and the rest of us have to pay for it in the long run. This is the same reason why libertarian politics is retarded.

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>>40713751
Who shall we blame? By anon annonington
>I say we blame Pepsi
>I say we blame coke
>I say we blame Mr pibb
>No certain if this last was joke

>Let's blame McDonald's
>Let's blame Burger King
>They even blamed a Wendy's
>Forgetting this one thing

>You control your diet
>You control your drink
>You control your exercise
>If you're fat at least one must stink

>So please put down the burger
>Stop eating like a sow
>Go and join a gym today
>The time to change is now

>>40713963
>lacks will power
>will power isn't enough to succeed

>>40713921
If you go to the gym and jog on the treadmill for 15 minutes and burn 200 calories, then going home and rewarding yourself for that by eating candy worth of a 1000 calories is not going to help. You just ate a caloric surplus. The only way to lose weight is to eat at a caloric deficit. Exercise doesn't even matter. Just eat less.

>>40713965
I wasn't fat when I started.

>>40713978

People are going plenty. Recreational exercise is at an all time high. Physical activity is at an all time low because of sedentary jobs.


All you fags are cucks for the food industry. They will keep poisoning you and your loved ones, and you will keep defending them.

>>40713963
No. All of this is true, but only for you. I am not a weakling, none of these statements are true for me.

>>40713994
>This is the same reason why libertarian politics is retarded.

That's all I'm saying here. Idk why everyone in this thread wants to make it about me.

>>40714003

Oh wow what revolutionary thinking from the 1970s. We need to tell the public so they will stay fit and slim.

>>40714015
>but only for you.

70% of Americans are overweight or obese.

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>>40713751
>5 years ago I was obviously health conscious, since I had a gym card

>>40713751
ITT: Food Industry Shills doing it For Free (TM)

>>40714026
amerifat are not counted as people. I am from denmark. People have not turned into living piles of shit yet.

Blaming it purely on the corporations is moronic but so it totally absolving them of all responsibility. They manufacture the products and push them in our faces all day every day. If every human being were a disciplined monk this would be fine but we're not, we're animals and most of us have little to no self control. Both sides of the issue need to be attacked.

>>40713751
>We need supply side economics
>tax bad things
>Government says 'FREE MONEY! SPEND SPEND SPEND!'
>people stop buying bad stuff
>spending doesn't go down
> Government: "hey you sure like that air you breath don't you? We're just gonna tax that now"

Put the fork down and pick up the weights.

>>40714009
> Implying I'm as fucking stupid as you are and can't manage eating healthy.
Yes it's the evil corporations! There's McDonald's everywhere and you absolutely have to eat it every day!

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> I'm fat
> I got a gym member ship wth why am I still fat?
*bites burger*
> hmmm what could it be?
*sips Starbucks triple shot Carmel macchiato*
> HMMM
*eats oreos*
> m...maybe....
* nipples donut*
> IT'S THE SYSTEM! THEY'RE MAKING ME FAT AND IF I'M FAT THAT MUST MEAN ECERYONE WITH GYM MEMBERSHIPS ARE FAT....WOAAAAAH I'M LIKE FUCKIN SOPHOCLES I'M SO SMART AHUH I NEED A SNACK.

Meanwhile...
Normal informed individuals eat whatever follow a iifym diet, lose weight, gain muscle, over a dedicated consistent course.

>>40714043
I am Canadian, like I said in the OP. Your reading comprehension is low.

60% of Danes are overweight or obese. You live in a glass house.

http://cphpost.dk/news/danes-fatter-than-they-think.html

>>40714054

We blamed big Tobacco and we won.

>>40714069

t. 1970 Anon.

>>40714070

Good shill. Shill for McDonalds.

>>40714075
>Normal informed individuals

We're the new normal. Fit people are the minority in the developed world.

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>>40714082
>your reading comprehension is low.

"47 percent of the adult population in Denmark is overweight and 13 percent are obese." and you think this makes 60% in total?

No matter how many people are fat, you can ultimatly only blame the fat shits.

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>>40713844

>There should be junk food tax

There absolutely should not be. Consumers should be free to purchase whatever legal goods and services they choose without penalty. A tax program of this nature is an overstep of the government and gives them more of our money to squander.

Government policy is not the solution. Personal responsibility and social pressure is the solution.

>wearing smaller than an XL
DYEL or just beta girly frame?

>>40714082
And yet cigarettes are still around, people still smoke them knowing very well the dangers. It's almost like at some point people have no will power or really give a shit about their health! Yes they were disingenuous about the effects of smoking.

>>40714082
How was that post shilling for McDonald's? I'm now convinced this is a bait thread.

>>40714145
47 + 13 = 60, idiot

>>40714149
>Personal responsibility and social pressure is the solution.

This policy has failed for 30 years.

>>40714160
beta girly frame

>>40714167
Almost no one my age smokes.

They'll be banned in a generation.

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>>40714193
>47 + 13 = 60, idiot

>>40714193
>47 + 13 = 60, idiot

good one lad.
Come back and argue your point when you understand basic math. 47% of danes are owerweight, 13% of them are obese.

>>40714221
Obese people aren't counted as overweight. Separate category.

I wish libertarians and socialists would all fuck off together and let the realists come up with actual solutions to problems.

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>>40714243
>obese people are not overweight

>>40714193
>beta girly frame
then there was no hope Tbh

>>40714243
I can only asume that you are trolling.

Well done m8, you had me going for a while.

>>40714193
>This policy has failed for 30 years.

it's not policy, it's human nature.
In the last 30 years social pressure has basically been outlawed because of MUH FEELZ. Personal responsibility has been pushed out the door because irresponsible fat fucks have found it easier to spend their time blaming their problems on anyone and everyone they can. If the vast majority of hamplanets spent as much time learning about proper nutrition, proper exercise/training, building a diet plan, building an exercise plan, and going to the fucking gym as they do shifting blame onto others and justifying their irresponsibility, they would have seen serious positive results.

t. former 265lb lardass

Fuck you fatty. Kys.
You want to ban or tax food I may enjoy because you have no self control?
Why are fat people so selfish and cannot take responsibility for their own actions.
Everyday I hate fat people more.

>>40714260
Why do we care? Why should I have to pay more for my food because people like op want to eat themselves to death? I say let him be a fat fuck. I fail to see why this is society's problem.

>>40713751
>wahwahwah I'm not responsible for myself wahwahwah make better decisions for me.

>>40714193

>This policy has failed for 30 years.

It worked for me. I had man boobs and every time my cousin saw me, he would say "what are you, about a B cup now?"

I started lifting cuz of this.

>>40714375

Not the guy you're replying to but

>I fail to see why this is society's problem.

It's our problem because of socialized healthcare. The taxpayer foots the bill for these people to be kept alive. Imo, calling obesity a disease is retarded, if you get to the point that you're obese, your healthcare shouldn't be subsidized.

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>>40713751
This b8 is so good I can't help but take it. Probably fattening but I'll have 2 helpings IT'S THAT GOOD.

All obese people are overweight
Not all overweight people are obese

Fat genocide when? OP pls die too

>>40714325
alt-history

>>40713751
the food isn't addictive or toxic. It's fine in healthy portions. It's your mental illness that is the problem.

>>40714529
>70% of people are mentally ill

>>40714589
yes, that's correct.

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>>40714075
i love you for this post

>>40713994

Libertarian politics are the solution
Fat people can pay for their own food to get fat on and their own healthcare when it happens
Under a libertarian system fatties are only a burden on themselves

>>40715246
Yes exactly. That's why market-socialist states like Sweden and Japan have such high obesity rates. Oh wait they don't.

Fat fucko losing weight here.

It's because we get used to the body we have.
I'm losing weight and despite the fact that I lost 22kg, I still feel the same as I was before.
We see ourselves everyday, if we gain weight or lose weight, we get used to it so we don't actively notice how we changed.

>>40714082
Sure
I lost 70lbs eating 1600cals of whatever and lifted so now I'm at 15%bf and can lift a decent amount. But w.e ur right lol it's the system !

>>40715287
OP here. I'm losing weight because I made a bet with friends on stikk.com, but I have like 1 to 2 years to go.

>>40713751

>or are we just going to keep blaming consumers

Yes, blame the fat idiots who keep buying and eating shit food in excess. Take some personal responsibility.

>>40715310
95% of people who lose weight gain it all back within 2 years. The food supply is poison.

Why are you faggots against taking some of Kraft's profits for producing Oreos because of the damage they do to society? You were all on board for doing that to tobacco companies.

>>40715318

You are using the same canned arguments as Coca fucking Cola.

>>40713751
Well maybe you should cut your wrists and blame the knife company then you fat undisciplined fuck

>>40715264

Take away socialised healthcare and welfare and fatties can either starve the weight off or die bankrupt when they can't afford their next heart transplant

Either way they aren't my problem so i'd no longer care

>>40715329

Then the coca cola people have made a good point. You're not a victim in this, you share a good deal of the blame if you end up fat from your own eating habits.

>b-but I saw an advert on TV for bacon cheeseburgers, I need to eat 4 for dinner tonight, there's nothing I can do!

Either exercise 4x more or pick another fucking thing to eat.

>>40715390
Countries with socialized medicine have the lowest obesity rates.

>>40714075
>nipples donut
wdhmbt

>>40715416

Even though I'm sort of semi-lolbertarian, I kind of agree with OP.

>you share a good deal of the blame if you end up fat from your own eating habits

Yeah, you do, but the problem with modern life is that you have to make effort to avoid even just being overweight. What I mean by this is that becoming overweight is now the easy default, but our bodies and psychology still think we're in an environment where the default is starvation.

And it is way more effort than people admit. There is a billion $ industry that has very successfully spread the meme that the obesity epidemic is due to lack of exercise. There are more billions of $ spent on lobbying and advertising on behalf of products that fool people into thinking they are healthy - granola bars, fruit juice, sweetened yogurt, fruit salad.

You have to be very informed to be healthy. And it's hard to become informed because so many people are giving so many different and often conflicting pieces of advice, it's easy to become lost. Put yourself in the perspective of a typical fast-food eating couch potato normie. Let's say he resolves to become healthier, how might he do it?

>Replace sugary cereal with special K and skim milk
An improvement, but still shit tier, tons of wheat and little protein
>Replace Subway lunch with "low fat" yogurt and fruit
Still shit, tons of sugar
>Instead of pizza for dinner eat spaghetti
Still tons of wheat, and lots of sugar in jar of sauce
>instead of watching TV, go running
Need to run like 50 fucking miles to burn off a pound of fat.

All the time our normie friend believes he now has a healthy diet, not understanding how much sugar and refined wheat he is poisoning himself with.

>>40713786
>addicted

>>40715919

>fruit is shit tier because it has sugar
>"low fat" is just a meme and people should eat all the fat they want and only worry about sugar

You're part of the problem.

The more people are fat and ugly the better I look so that's pretty good

I love the fat epidemic

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>I need dem gubments to make good decisions for me

Fake and gay

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>>40713751
Ultimately the onus is on the individual. Plenty of non fat people in the world.
BUT
This doesn't mean that sugar/ fast food peddlers are not complicit in making everybody fat.

I judge fatties on an individual level, but I blame the companies you listed for this "epidemic".

>>40715977

Fuck off shill faggot.