Evolution of Bodybuilding

>>40703918
post 1940

basically roids, its unnecessarily overkill but if you like looking like a nonfunctional cloud, thats up to you.

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It went down hill after Frank Zane retired.

It hit rock bottom when Dorian Yates entered the scene.

https://youtu.be/KqBbK_kO5tw

Zyzz was going to revive the classic aesthetics but they murdered him for it.

Lee Haney was the transition between golden and freak. He was 1/2 and 1/2. After him it was all disgusting freak shit

Cool vid desu. Late 40s and early 50s are the GOATs imo. Mid 60s you can already see the freakbeasts coming in and post 70s when eye-talians and blacks start winning, it went to complete shit

>>40704227
fuuuuaarrrk zyzz was small

>>40704227
The physique thing is cool but the board shorts are awful.

They should divide bodybuilding competitions by BMI, not weight.

The big question: who was greater: Arnold, or Frank?

I go with Arnold.

>>40703918
1916 was the only good one

Going to redpill you faggots that think roids are needed for a good physique.
Look at all musclur depictions of men prior to the 20th century. All the way back to classical sculpture.
Steroids didn't exist.

>>40706817
Roids are necessary if you have bad genetics

>>40703918
regardless of how much testosterone these guys have, i don't get a masculine vibe from them at all, the last olympian i could get behind was dorian yates.

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>>40706817
pic related is the best pre roids physique I've ever seen, still he was relatively small and probably worked out his whole life.
>Look at all musclur depictions of men prior to the 20th century. All the way back to classical sculpture
do you also believe socrates had a batman physique in his 70s?

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thoughts on this lift? 1/2

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2/2

>>40706946
do dumbbell snatches, they're pretty awesome.

>>40706966
they are safe?

>>40706938
Where do you think classic artists got the idea from? They used live studies. Its impossible to know the human physique can get very muscular if you have never seen it before.

>>40706633
"small"
by /fit/ standards.
I would kill to have that physique as 6'3

>>40706938
http://www.bodyfatguide.com/Steroids.jpg

>>40706987
>Going to redpill you faggots that think roids are needed for a good physique
well what are you talking about then? Michelangelo's David? Farnese Hercules? Laocoon? I don't think its possible to get to the two latter without good genetics and 20/30+ years of training

>>40707023
You are so obvious dyel its not funny.

When did bodybuilders start using steroids?

>>40707036
>h-ahah I'll just call him dyel so I don't have to defend my points
I'm sure you're 100% natty modern day hercules, friend

Implying the older roidheads wouldnt have become mass monsters if they had the drugs they have now.

They all became the biggest they possibly could.

>>40706987
They carved up cadavers and looked at musculature at an anatomic level, then added a layer of skin on it. They were masters of anatomy

>>40707048
Around the 60s it seems.

>>40706975
my shoulders tend to pop a bit when i do OHP, but i have never had any issues with anything shoulder related, they're my favorite muscle group. dumbbell snatches are wonderful, you just rotate arms each rep and after a while it feels like cardio, it works on your grip similar to a deadlift since you're lifting it from the ground. i've never felt anything to lead me to believe they're unsafe, i love them.

>>40707052
>thinks it takes 30 years to get a muscular physique
This forum is for 18+ people interested in fitness.

>>40707081
compared to idealized ancient depictions of gods, yes it does.

>>40707066
How come the body builders from the 40s/50s are so much bigger than the from the 1910s/20s? Different training styles?

>>40707149
gear

>>40707137
>incomprehensible babbling intensifies
It's time to stop posting tubs.

>>40707166
It didn't exist.

>>40707217
I think it was available in the late 30s

>>40707149
The early 20th century stuff was a new sport inspired by circus strongmen acts. Its like proto-strongmen events.
Theres earlier examples of weight training all the way back to ancient times.
The difference is early 20th century had photography.

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>>40707217
literal average retarded natty subscribing to youtube fitness models thinking he is gonna look like them one day

>>40707217
Actually did bruh.
They were on early steroids and eating bull nuts.

>>40707228
It was not you retard.

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>>40707137
just leave already.
>not going to make it.

>>40707235
The first synthesis of Testosterone was done in 1930. This doesn't mean it was available or people even knew it could be used for increasing muscle mass.
You stupid retard.

>>40707260
>How come the body builders from the 40s/50s are so much bigger
>"during the 1930s, scientists discovered that anabolic steroids could facilitate the growth of skeletal muscle"

>This doesn't mean it was available or people even knew it could be used for increasing muscle mass.
>"which led to abuse of the compounds first by bodybuilders and weightlifters and then by athletes in other sports."

>>40707235
>screencaps the first hit off google
Dumbfuck
>Testosterone, the most active anabolic-androgenic steroid produced by Leydig cells in the testes, was first isolated in 1935 and chemically synthesized later in the same year. Synthetic derivatives of testosterone quickly followed. By the end of the following decade, both testosterone and its derivatives were applied with varying degrees of success for a number of medical conditions. It was not until the 1950s, however, that athletes began to discover that anabolic steroids could increase their muscle mass. According to sports physician John Ziegler, the first confirmed use of an anabolic steroid in an international athletic competition was at the weightlifting championships in Vienna in 1954, when the Russians weightlifters used testosterone.[5]

>>40707278
Holy fuck you are dumb

>>40707236
Retard

>>40707284
>>40707295
>wow physiques magically transformed after thousands of years of being the exact same, magically within a couple of years of steroids being discovered
>wow i cant imagine why
>but its definitely not steroids

How much did Zyzz weigh at his peak?

delusional manlet natty calling everyone a retard thinking he will one day look like frank zane on his chicken breast and whey diet. Makes you sad doesnt it.

>>40707313
>he thinks there were no muscular physiques prior to steroids
Literally an idiot.

>>40707369
wow
amaze
such muscle
such physique
such "FATHER OF MODERN BODYBUILDING" pre steroids
wow

>>40706938
>>40706946
>>40706953

>>40707352
The funny thing is you think Zanes physique is hard to get.
Got to wonder what sort of pos thinks it takes 30 years to get an unremarkable physique.

>>40707386
>>>/reddit/ and stay there. Fuck redditors are morons without exception.

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>>40707389
>this is what retarded delusional natties think is unremarkable
>thats why we have thousands of frank zanes walking around as just average bros going to the gym

>>40707386
He wasn't the father of modern bodybuilding. Modern bodybuilding didn't start till the 70s.

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>>40707405
>>40707397
>wow my arms grew from 8 to 9 inches in just one year of training, in 20 years i will have 29 inch arms natty!!! omfg!!!

>>40707399
>thinks old examples of bodybuilding means its impossible to achieve
>muh black and white idols
>never again
What are you even saying you braindead moron.

>>40706953
>>40706946
When did they invent the chest press? Old Roman statues had good chests but early bodybuilders never trained chest.

>>40707422
I have 40inch arms and ive not been lifting for 20+ years you dyel stupid cunt.

>>40707439
people probably did push ups as early as they realized more physical activity + more muscle (and wanted more muscle).

>>40707422
>everything i google is true.
You must be the dumbest cuck on here. Modern bodybuilding started in the 70s.

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Am I the only one that likes the direction modern bodybuilding is heading?

Sure Arnold and Zane were aesthetic, but not compared to modern bodybuilders. Kai Greene, Phil Heath, Coleman all make Arnold look dyel and still keep amazing proportions. The guys don't even look human which I think is really cool. Watch Generation Iron on Netflix and I think you will gain a better appreciation for modern bodybuilders.

>>40707467
>disgusting hgh + insulin guts
>aesthetic

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>>40707332
During the final years of his life? Around 220 I believe.

ITT: bickering

>>40707486
more like itt retarded dyel natty kids

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>>40707332
He was 200 at his heaviest. He was actually dyel and used lighting to look bigger. Pic related is how small he really was. He was also a manlet, definitely not 6'3 as >>40707001 said. Lmao he is barely taller than the average woman.

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>>40707499
>h-heh ill make shit up and post a pic where his arms and shoulders are literally obscured to make my retarded natty kid self think i can look like him

>>40707526
Its true though he abused everything he could just to get to the level of your average Aussie Anglo guy who is dyel.
This is what being a wog cuck living in a white mans country does.

>>40707543
show me a picture of the average aussie anglo guy who is dyel at 6'2 227lbs 8% bf

>>40707554
He is saying the level of attractiveness of the average dyel Aussie Anglo.

Can you read?

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>>40707499
>6'2 is now considered manlet.

>>40707560
where do you see the word attractiveness in his post imbecile?

>>40703918
When black people started really getting into it.

>>40707554
youtube.com/watch?v=HdIP7yn56g0
Guy on the left average Anglo vs guy on the right a wog.
Note that the Anglo looks like a superman.

>>40703918
The mid 60s

>>40707476
>that early stages of roid gut

>>40703918
After the 80s, they start to look like parodies of the human form

>>40707439
Pushups and pushing heavy stones.

Muscles can be trained and grow from stimulus that isn't based around lifting weights bruh.

>>40707631
I didn't know Dorian Yates was black.

>>40707439

The bench press is basically from the 1950s-60s onwards. Floor press and pullover-and-press are older but basically no-one did them once they fell out of competition because it was awkward as fuck in a time before racks and cages.

>>40707782
Ancient people had weights bruuuuh

>>40707791
I want you to take a hard look at dorian then compare to the literal endless slew of black people that over saturate body building now. He was an outlier not the norm.

>>40707806
Yeah, they were called sticks stones other people animals their own body.
They didn't have a fucking bench press.

>>40707825
Its just like everything blacks get cuck bucks sponsership to push the black meme on the American and international public.

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>>40707439
They just carried bulls to develop chest

>>40707825
Dorian fucking Yates changed the game FOREVER.
No one was as huge and fucking freaky as him. NO ONE.

He was god king for as long as he competed and no one save for the people that were foolish enough to follow in his footsteps with his drug stacks could compete.

Most EVERYONE from that era is fucking dead or dying now.

>>40707863
Hence why I called him an outlier anon.

>>40707840
*breathes deep* wrong. They had everything beside modern machine equipment. Even machine equipment existed eventually though because its just pullies.

>>40707863
ya his back was actually enormous

>>40707877
You're fucking retarded and I wasted my time replying to you.
Good day to you sir.

>>40707863
Yeah Yayes is impressive.. the thing is other examples given arent very impressive. They were good for their time because they had no competition. Now almost any guy can get a good muscular physique like Zane or the early bodybuilders

>>40707467
>DUDE HARDWORD IS KEY
>HARD WORK IS BULLSHIT MANE, I USE SCIENCE BITCH xD
>I AM TALENT
>HE DONT BE TALENT SO HE LOSE
dropped at 30 minutes because it looked like cartoon characters with special abilities

>>40707928
Ronnies secret is hes a manlet. Thats how he gets those exaggerated proportions.

>>40707961
Protip: Any bodybuilder worth a damn is a manlet.
>inb4 muh Arnold

>>40707149
better overall diet because the improvement to quality of life.

>>40707979
Arnolds under 6ft but yeah all the mass monsters are around 5'6"
Virtually impossible to be a tall mass monster.

>>40707979
Arnold was barely 5'10.

>>40707999
You can be.
You'll just have to be either kinda fat or a freak anomaly that was active as fuck from child.

>>40708024
Nope mass monster is specifically a high mass bodybuilder physique with no fat.
You get huge guys that get really big lifting weights but they never get to the mass monster proportions.

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>>40708024
>he thinks someone tall can look like Ronnie Coleman from being active as fuck from child

>>40708043
Yeah, I thought you meant like 50s-70's era large for a man who's actually 6+ not a stage/hollywood 6+ guy.

They can get mutant huge and freaky because they are short and can survive the ridiculous drug stacks.

I was actually referring to naturals rather then enhanced muscle obese guys.

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>>40707999
>Virtually impossible to be a tall mass monster.

Calum is getting there (6'2). Then again he's pretty much "massthetics" (a combination of mass and aesthetics).

>>40708347

Calum is a long way off being a mass monster by BBing standards. Like, sixty-eighty pounds of stage weight.

>>40708347
Calums good but hes not mass monster tier if he works out his chest more he can hit Arnold tier.
He even repeatedly says he doesn't want a mass monster physique.

>>40708391
Yeah, the look he has going now is far more marketable to the mainstream.

Once you get into Coleman, Yates, El Sonbatay, and Calimuscle land you become a sideshow attraction.

>>40703918
is 1952 achieveable natty?

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The final step in the evolution of bodybuilding history!

>>40708617
>A weapon to surpass the metal gear

Am I the only one who thinks Dorian and Ronnie are overrated? I think guys like Levrone and Wheeler were maybe not as big as them but they were so much more aesthetic and proportional that the size was negligible

>>40708635
It's all ALL about mass.
Wheeler had amazing proportions. Comic book hero shit.

But it's litterally all about mass. Consumption, getting people to buy the most shit and get the biggest and feed into bigorexia.

That's how it is.

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>>40703918
that guy from 1916 might be my goal body
why are there 3 pictures of Arnold?