Is this achievable natty?

I'd say so yeah, nothing about him screams roids save for his age I guess

Not with that level of hardness, no, but someone with good genetics could probably achieve something close enough that normies wouldn't really be able to tell the difference.

>>40677889
If you're genetically gifted the needed upper body areas then yeah

>>40677889

Depends if you want to live on steak and eggs or not.

https://www.anabolicmen.com/vince-girondas-old-school-steak-and-eggs-diet-for-ultimate-weight-loss/

>>40677889
Steroids didn't exist when Gironda competed, so yes.

>>40677889
yes, but you need crazy levels of discipline to do it, so maybe no.

>>40679443
your brain didn't exist when you were typing this post

>>40679772
You could have used that post to educate him about the history of anabolic steroids and how Sandow wasn't natty, but instead you chose to engage in petty rejoindery. Disappointing.

>that size
>that leanness
pick one

>>40677923
>>40679772
>>40680985
>>40681013
>He was vehemently against the use of steroids for physique development, claiming that they contributed to a grotesque appearance

>>40681100
and lance armstrong swore for 10 years that he was natty

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>>40681100

>veins in his chest
>natty

Pick one.

>>40681100
You're right, everyone in the fitness industry who makes their livelihood from their body, sells their programs, and gets supplement sponsorships must be telling the truth when they say they're natty

>>40681134
WAT

>>40681134
I was still a fat fuck when I was getting vein popping vascularity in my arms shoulders and chest just like that. Lean out a little and get in a hard workout and you might see it too you fat sack of shit
>>40681131
Because he had something to lose, which he did lose when it came out that he was on EPO.
Gironda

>>40681100
He was right, you know.

>>40681194
see below
>>40681174

>>40681134
I started lifting for the first time ever a few months ago (obviously natty) and I have chest veins.