Is this achievable natty? This guy is 1,70m and 84kg.

>>40676749
Ready to inject?

>crossfit athlete
>natty
nope, they dont even test

>>40676749
>This guy is 1,70m

And just like that all my respect for him disappeared.

>>40676749
I have a friend who's built like this, I mean this guys leaner and stuff but same shape/ hulk forearms n shit, he lifts a couple times a week whenever he feels like it and works a manual labor job. My buddy's got 1 in a million genetics but yeah I'd say it's doable natty. My friend is 5'10-11, 220-230 I'd say 15-18% bodyfat. Sorry I don't understand the metric Jew for you euroniggers

>>40677133
To add on: now if you asked me if I THOUGHT the guy in the OP was natty I'd tell you hell no. No one is natty. Not one person you look up to in the fitness community is natty. Fucking no one. Even Brad Pitt was on shit for fight club, and he sure as fuck upped the dose for Troy

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>>40677133
>comparing your 18% bodyfat friend who "lifts a couple times a week whenever he feels like it" to pic in op
>somehow proof that pic in op is achievable natty

>>40677159
What makes you say that?

with enough effort sure just tone down the delts and traps a bit and most likely tone down the abs as well unless youre lucky where you store fat. The issue is most people will not ever have the consistency to ever reach that. Give it 5-8 years of knowing what youre doing and not fucking around sure. 1-2 years with a quarter of that being a cut? No not gonna happen.

The main issue people have is after 3ish years of solid lifting when youre doing 1/2/3/4 your gains slow down so much its stupid and there isnt anything you can really do unless you pin to win.

>>40676749

Without the cut abs it is probably.

With those abs only with really superior genetics (that you don't have cause you are here)

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>>40677133
>comparing some 18% fatty to a guy with a visible 8pack

>>40676749
>1,70m and 84kg
>shredded
no, although he doesn't look roided.

>>40677133
Your friend is fat and "tall". This guy is short and shredded. What kind of comparison is that, come on.

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>>40677259
>>40677276
Is that guy really considered shredded?
His body fat isn't even that low.

>>40677200
I'm telling you he looks like OP lol lemme find a pic hold on

>>40677210

Uhh why wouldn't they take gear if they're making money from their physique? It's not even bad for you...

>>40677276
>>40677255
Guy in OP's pic is like12-14% you fucktards. My point was that my friend fucks around in the gym and is xbox huge naturally due to his genetics; so if he actually took the gym seriously he'd look like this guy pretty fuckin easily. It's a roll of the dice whether or not you can look like OP's pic naturally, and the dice were rolled before you were even born based on your genetics

>>40678041
knowing such stories, he's probably just fat