/fraud/

do skinnyfats with confirmed low testosterone bulk or cut when starting "aggressive" self TRT? more on the skinny side

5'9 155, 14%. scared of just getting fat for summer by bulking

i am not fat, but not lean either

>>40665576
Cut.

>>40665596
Hey there !

>>40665559

I wonder just how many people have gotten conned into doing shitty cycles because of him?

>>40665576
Recomp. If you're coming from legit low T then TRT is going to rebuild you. Start with an actual TRT dose though.

Why is it the norm to take a higher dosage of sterons after 1st Cycle? Why not just stay on a low dosage forever and stay safer?

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>>40664212

Hey dude, as an oldfag who has been on Tinder for like a month and been on like 5-6 first dates, all of them good (on my end, I ghosted a few of the girls but they all liked me to one degree or another), I'ma break it down for you:

First date idea is fucking dinner or drinks.

So first of all, you have obviously gotten her to agree to meet, so we don't have to cover that part. Now you're like "hey are you free X" and she's like "sure" and you have to come up with something.

Here's what you do:

0. Ask her if she has any dietary restrictions or bugaboos (like maybe she irrationally hates Vietnamese food or something)
1. Figure out where each of y'all is coming from and pick somewhere halfway. The place should have a bunch of restaurants bars and be decent for walking around.
2. Use Yelp to find 2-3 options. Offer them to her like "want to meet for drinks at this cool dive bar or have Italian?" or "Kabobs or Korean" or something. Usually, offer options. Sometimes, it's OK to just say "hey there is this great sushi place I love how's that sound?" (The latter is what I did for my date tomorrow and that's cool.)
3. Shoot them a link to the Yelp listing on Tinder so they can scope it out a bit if they want. Also the format of how it gets put into a message when you hit the "share" button on the Tinder app is really convenient for her to put into GPS or whatever.
3.5. Make a reservation in your name if appropriate. This is important! Tell her if you do in case she gets there earlier.
4. Dress and groom yourself. Don't wear a fucking suit, but shower, shave (or trim), wear a little cologne if that's your style, try to have a decent haircut. Have some minty gum with you.
5. Show up exactly on time, give a quick hug/peck if there's an opening.

>>40665680
What exactly do you expect to be safe from? You're still going to die nerd.

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>>40665687
>>40665687
cont'd

6. Listen attentively. Ask "tell me about your day." Bring up stuff you've been texting about. Always be listening to her, eyes on her face, engaged. Here it really helps if you're genuinely interested in getting to know people. People are fucking fascinating, even ones you don't want to bang.
------Everything below here is if you actually like her, which by now you can probably tell. If you don't like her, politely eat your food and listen, and say you have to go. Ghosting is totally appropriate but if you feel guilty, shoot her a text and say "Hey it was nice meeting you but I don't feel a connection. Best of luck!"
7. Offer to share/trade food. It's a nice touch and builds a little bond.
8. Throw in a compliment towards the end when the flow is working.
9. Once the meal is done, say you want to get out of there and walk around. Another nice touch is to decline dessert at the place, but go somewhere else for an ice cream or whatever.
10. Keep up the convo and getting to know each other.
11. Try to be the one that ends the date. Leave her wanting more. Try to get a kiss if possible. This doesn't always happen, but keep yourself ready for it.
11.5 Sometimes you try to seal the deal for another date here, sometimes you wait until the follow-up text, play it by ear. Either is fine.
12. If appropriate, tell her to text you when she gets home.
13. Text her THE NEXT DAY (no later, no earlier) that you had a good time and hope to/can't wait to see her again.
14. Continue to engage fitfully over text; let her make some moves herself to make sure she's into you and willing to put in a little work. But don't withhold either.
....
99. While it's possible that chemsitry is so good that you do this earlier, the third date is when you go back to one of y'alls places and make out like teenagers and maybe more.

>>40665680
surprisingly, higher dosages mean better results

>>40665680
Lots of people just up the dose without really considering things. It all depends on goals and risk/reward calculation.

>>40665702
>is when you go back to one of y'alls places and make out like teenagers and maybe more.
sounds like this was written by a thirsty 40 year old reddit soccer mom

>>40665691
but they said muscles make you immortal

>>40665761

Close. 42. But that's what happened last night so I used it in the post. Girl was on her period so that's what we did.

Seriously though, if you're not thirsty, you let the GIRL do some of the leading, and it works out so much better that way. Trust me.

OBV you have multiple girls in your pipeline so you don't catch feelings until after you've gotten the third date under your belt, at which point you have the difficult decision of having to choose one, but compared to some of the "tfw no gf" people on here, that's a good problem to have.

>>40665825
if you let them lead young grils tend to think you are a beta,this being 'alpha' shit is pretty popular rn.

>>40665864
Yeah, and? You want some dumb chick that has no opinions and input and just follows you around? Fine then be "alpha."

Usually it's good to put a little pressure on, like they feel pressure to do or say something cool, then you say you like what they did, and they fucking melt.

The best is when they say something like "hell yeah, I'm awesome" then it's fucking on because you now have a little joust thing/point you can prod them on for pretty much the resto of the relationship.

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>>40665576

>cutting

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>there is 42 yo posting on 4chan giving dating advice

>>40665576
Not every phase of working out falls into "cut" or "bulk"

Sometimes you are just grinding, eating mostly OK and working out hard.

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>>40665925

There are people in this world who neglect the wisdom of their elders.

>>40665943
If you're 42 and still picking up women on Tinder you're in no position to be giving advice to young men.

>>40665596
>>40665635
>>40665930
you are getting memed

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>>40665687
>>40665702
>>40665864
>>40665973

Wall of text incoming:
I appreciate the rough play by play but my situation is a little different. She's a coworker at a entry level job and she's working there while waiting to get in-state residency for tuition and I'm in school.

On one hand work has played into my favor because everyone there knows me, likes me, and speaks extremely well of me so she hears it from other people that I'm decent. But it sucks because I don't do well talking to her when there's a big group because they're all just sitting there evesdropping or talking about their own shit so I can't really get to know her, but I guess that's why I need to ask her out.

We have a unique opportunity to travel wherever we want and I feel like that may be the best way to get her to open up and learn more about each other. I know some of you guys probably think it's beta but she's like, perfectly cute and small which is what I always go for.

>>40665973
how is life my mang

>>40666026
Pretty good m8

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>>40665545
im about to do my first cycle, should I cut more?

>>40666306
have you considered lifting

>>40666306
Yes cut more

>>40666334
nah not really :^)

>>40666344
fo sho. If I did some carb cycling for like two weeks then went back on while already on cycle would I blow up again, or would the roids help offset the fat gain?

>>40665984
"unique opportunity to travel anywhere" what do you mean by that?

Sounds like you just need a quiet spot where you can talk, and have a mutual activity to take up some attention to fill in the gaps.

>>40665973
I've forgotten more about dating that you know, son. Take my advice for what it's worth, it's free after all...

>>40666366
Test doesn't really offset fat gain. Just raises the ceiling for muscle growth and raises tdee, insulin spiking will still make your fat stores grow

>>40666369
It's worth shit because you're some weirdo 42 year old on tinder and 4chan, and going on about how it takes you 3+ dates to even get to first base with some tinderella

>>40666406
honestly should I even cut then? I;m eating like 3.5kcal a day, but it's honestly not the highest quality food, so fat gain is going to happen. I could try upping the cardio, but more than anything I'm trying to gain strength, so I rather get fat and build mass underneath/improve my strength, then cut and end up losing strength. I could always cut later right?

I got my 3 black tops of oil (Test E). I'm about to do my first ever injection of 250 mg.

I'm thinking about doing ventrogluteal exclusively. Any drawback to doing only that location and flipping sides?

>>40666425
seriously if it took me more than one night to fuck a girl on TINDER of all places I would probably give up on trying to have sex altogether

sad!

>>40666470
no

but that's not what black top means

>>40666440
Are you bnc? If not, cut now. Don't cycle and then cut afterwards you'll lose everything and waste your time.

Take a month or two to cut. Yes strength goes down, but it will come back up when you hop on and start eating a surplus again.

Be fucking patient it's not a race.

>>40666485
>but that's not what black top means
I forgot in this circle it refers to the bull

>>40666470
Potentially scar tissue but if you're injecting e3.5d and do the recommended 1min/ml injection speed you'll be fine.

>>40666513
You're a complete faggot

He's talking about the hgh black tops

Go jump in front of a bus you worthless pos

>>40666470

I do gluteus medius exclusively, alternating sides twice a week. Works fine.

I don't feel comfortable trying ventrogluteal on myself, I feel like its such a small spot and its hard to visualize exactly where you are putting the needle on the side like that. Gluteus medius is really easy to see. You just flex your butt just before you inject and you can see exactly what muscle you are aiming for. PIP not bad at all there either in my experience. I tried outer quads a few times, found PIP much worse there.

>>40666485
>more than one night to fuck a girl on TINDER of all places I would probably give up on trying to have sex altogether
Tbh this. Tinder is for quick fucks not dates and shit famalam

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>tfw synthol now available

Time to fix these calves?

>>40666514
>1min/ml injection speed
Who recommends this shit? Thats slow af

>>40666583
I can't tell what gender that person is

And injecting collagen into your calf sounds like absolute hell

>>40666598
HYDRAULIC
WATER
CUTTERS

>>40666583
Bodyweight calf raises. 100ED

>>40666583
I know you are retarded enough to use meth/eroin.
But synthol ? come on mate you cant be that retarded.

>>40666760
He is, haven't you seen his posts?

People like him genuinely make me lose faith in humanity, and its not even really his fault. Just born not that bright. And then you think, "fuck, this is how the average asshole thinks and goes about life" . Helps you understand why this world is the way it is.

>>40666566
>ventrogluteal on myself, I feel like its such a small spot and its hard to visualize exactly
put your fingers between your hip bone and head of femur, then shift your weight from foot to foot while standing still

you can feel the muscle flex hard

>>40666369
Why aren't you married with kids?

>>40666583
"no"

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>>40666602
You might not like it but that's what peak female performance looks like

FaceTimed my junky var ex last night and all her muscle is gone from getting sepsis via dirty needle and 3 months in county. Smh what a waste.

>>40666748
I find super high rep calf work is the way to go. I do
4x20 dumbbell calf raises
Each set followed by
4x20 body weight

Also the usual calf raise machine work etc

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>>40666952
>usual calf raise machine work
I have fuckhuge calves but for some reason standing calf raises never seem like they allow me to contract the muscle very hard. Even doing one leg at a time.

Tomorrow will be the day for qt3.14gf

>>40666493
nah you're right. Do you think 8 lbs would be enough? So if I was -2000kcal a day for two weeks. I'd just have to run a shit load, but I think I could pull it off.

>>40666798
Nest post, kahuna is legit retarded. Hope his current he he's crazy about find out he cheated somehow. Retard doesn't deserve her. No will power

>>40665545

Does this count as a bodybuilding thread

>>40667133
No we just use gear to make more money as gay prostitutes and porn stars.

>>40667092
>Hope his current he he's crazy about find out he cheated somehow.
what did i miss

>>40667133
Somewhat. But: too juiced for natty bb, too sane still for 5g a week WHATEVER IT TAKES approach, so what should we even discuss kek

>>40667173
He can't stop talking about this new girl who's a nurse or some shit and a qt, and how he wants to settle down with her but cheated on her already is having a hard time resist g cheating on her again, and still talks to his ex. He's a fucking retard and I hope both g but misfortune befall him considering he could marry a sugar momma right now (and cant stop mentioning settling down with her) he could have her pay for his college or some shit dik just get his life together. He doesn't deserve happiness he's so fucking stupid.
I can't see how people like him can't keep his dick in his pants or have such garbage will power. What a retard

>>40667234
you seem mad

>>40667234
Wow Kahuna self hate much?

>>40667234
t. white knight

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>tfw binged and probably exceeded maintenance a little bit for 3 days straight

fuck this shit lads, im not gonna eat anything for the next 48 hours.

>>40667277
>>40667284
>>40667314
I see some other retard worshippers are triggered.
>alphas get addicted to meth and heroin, then proceed to fuck anything that moves.
>alphas sell their assholes to pay rent
>alphas cheat and destroy relationships with dream girls who are loaded with cash and love them.

It's like those edgy kids In higjschool that thought slangin drugs I highschool and being a thug is cool episode. Damn fraud you're so beta. You'd do anything to feel cool.

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>>40667234
Geez meanposter

I cheated once and still feel awful. Not happening again. I appreciate her so much and lesson learned. Not for her money, she's a kind person who's willing to overlook my past.

I still hope you succeed and reach your goals. You seem to hate me for valid reasons. I'm working on my flaws.

>>40667038
Ayy finally.
2017 YEAR OF QT GFS

>>40667365
you still seem mad

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I just did my first ever injection! It doesn't hurt at all in the ventrogluteal site! I would timestamp my materials but I have legal paranoia

I'm a little confused though, I injected 250 mg of test E more than 60 seconds ago and i'm still not swole?

>>40667374
Im saying the money is a plus. She loves you and shes doing good and you still manage to somehow fuck up. That's no tiny fuck up either. She deserves to know. Shell find out eventually. Ya gotta grow up dood you seem to have found someone to out the fire under your was to do good. Yeah I don't hate you just piss me off sometimes I hate seeing people who finely start to do good fuck their whole progress up.

>>40667374
>I cheated once
kill you'reself :)

>>40667413
I've fucked up a lot in life and I look for validation wherever I can get it (primarily from females, and when I was young my peers really emphasized the importance of sleeping around).

Trying to remedy long engrained behaviors hasn't been an instant thing for me but it's all moving in a positive direction.

I'm not trying to justify selfish behaviors at all. Realistically I don't deserve the girl that I'm with. idk what point in trying to make, Im an extremely flawed person and I'm embarrassed of how my life has turned out. I don't want to seem "alpha" at all which is why I post openly about the gay prostitution and other awful shit I've done to MYSELF. Believe it or not I come here to hear shit like what you're saying to me. Anonymous people are much more objective.

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>>40661101
>How many kits did you get?

10, if I'd known then I would've grabbed like 20-30 to flip

>>40661296
>anyone have experience with iso's DHB?

either it's actually bold or he's loading it to the fucking gills with eo and guaiacol, literally no way to get it to 200 otherwise

>>40664034
>>40664061
>i think i might transition to powerfatting
>don't but i mean i would fit in with the whole bullshit of "hur i only care about strength, for myself" or whatever powerfats tell themselves, and if i am obese from permabulking then i can at least blame myself for being disgusting instead of it feeling helplessly out of my control

it's actually really funny that you two keep up with this delusional meme about powerlifting

maybe ask bimbo or kahuna about it, I'm sure they'll back you up about it turning you into an amorphous wall-e blob person

>>40664323
>Any input on stacking low-dose Mestanolone with 75-100mg Anadrol?

some dudes were raving about the benefits of mestanolone on gh15 but stoya's old account got booped and I don't remember any specifics

>>40665579
>Yeah it's calling being a skinny asshole that should eat more.

like 2-3% more bf and triple the size of your obliques, boom brickmode

I'll trade you chest/back depth for beard genetics

>>40665687
>(like maybe she irrationally hates Vietnamese food or something)

I'm gonna have to stop you right there, pho > hoes

>>40666571
>Tbh this. Tinder is for quick fucks not dates and shit famalam

if you only limit yourself to that, sure

>let's see how long does it take to come up with a retarded strawman counter argument

>>40666583
>>40666952

told you how to do calves already, you big gay baby

>>40666598
>>40666608

that'd be me, and I love how that imagery sticks in peoples' heads

>>40667614
what batch# do you have? i have 25, havent seen bloods for them yet

>>40667614
sorry for noobish question, but should i be worried? legit 200 would be a godsend but i never came even close to the amounts needed for that to hold, might as well be toxic at that point lol

>>40667542
I didnt know about gay prostitution,da fuq mane.
your personal life aside,do not use synthol,do not even touch it,your calves will look like empty sack of balls.

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>>40667614
>retarded strawman counter argument
Nah. Not completely disagreeing with you it's just that's what the majority of people on there are looking for.

Do you have a GF currently? I'm sure there are tons of college sloots up there.

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>>40668167
>tfw no a v e r a g e gf

>>40668254
Welcome back sweet prince

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Question from a mere mortal natty...

Do any of you regret taking dat der cell tech? Seriously, I've been considering it as of lately, have done a good amount of research. Can anyone run through your personal pro's and con's?

>>40668350
cons: it makes you restless as fuck and unable to be content sitting in your loser ass room playing video games, because you would rather be out doing shit with the single life you have to live instead

>>40668369

sounds like less of a con and more of a pro... from what I hear the pro's almost always heavily outweigh the cons

>>40668350
In the short term the pros are many and the cons are few. In the long term, we really don't know. We all might be killing ourselves slowly.

>>40668297
T-thanks

>>40668369
Then why do you sit in your room playing wow all day

>>40668419
hmmmmmmmmmmm cant imagine

and i dont play wow, starcraft 2 arcade now

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>>40668369
>>40668254
Fuck that. Like kahuna was saying make that shit happen this year. Quit fucking around putting it off and making excuses because girls aren't going to wait around for you.

>>40668500
any girl that would be able to look me in the eyes and fuck or kiss me as i am right now would be completely mentally ill anyway

or in reality just want my money

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>>40668432
>arcade

>>40668500
>wanting girls taking your money and time
Theres got to be an easy way to buy lolis from china
I wonder if raw suppliers would know

>>40668546
arcade where you can just fuck around with other people in minigames > gookclick

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>>40668515
I thought your swelling was going down from all that pilocarpine. But living the life of a hermit is going to fuck with your head long-term.

Idk what has gotten to me recently but it's like why not take the fucking shot and atleast try. Tbh I'm scared as fuck of asking a girl out but nobody else is going to do it for me and it would kill me to see her with another guy when it could've been me.

>>40668515
Havent you said glands are almost fixed ?

>>40668406
Quality over quantity, always.

>>40668558
Copper shitter detected

>>40668562
Find a twin and give me the other ones number

>>40668562
>>40668573

it seems (S E E M S) to be going down overall slowly, but still has massive up-and-down fluctuations

so one day it was basically completely gone. couldn't stop looking in the mirror, taking pictures of myself, etc..

and then i woke up the next day and it was "not gone" again

>>40668581
i was diamond zerg in wings of liberty

then hots made the game a piece of shit and it died, i saw it coming and quit before it happened though. added too much braindead shit like widow mines

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>>40668581
>other ones number
That's not my qt, that's Georgia Ellenwood. I'd go for it if I lived in Wisconsin.

>>40668593
Have you considered dropping tren ? Chinese bathub flintstone vitamins may have correlation between your face,have you ever fucking thought about that ?

>>40668593
I completely agree actually
Had multiple wol accounts for ladder lol

>>40668615
I wasn't asking.
Now less excuses I expect a twins number by tomorrow

>>40668633
Not to be a glands apologist, but who the fuck do you know that has ever had their face blow up like his from steroids complications? For months on end?

also i have basically not been taking the pilocarpine at all compared to when i first started, because it was going to make me fail all my classes, so i have only been taking it on weekends. now it is """spring break""" so hopefully i will make as much progress in these 10 days as i normally would in like 6 weeks

>>40668593
also it seems that it gets bigger whenever i sleep... which is retarded... if i only sleep for less than 3 hours or so at a time, it will be small as fuck and i will look human, then it resets if i sleep for a long time straight...........

>>40668653
this

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>>40668647
>twins number by tomorrow
N-no promises Kreiger senpai.

>>40668670
Didnt you turned into a pokemon after you started using steroids ?

>>40668687
not randomly OVERNIGHT after using them for ~5 months beforehand

Anyone who has any minor niggling shoulder, elbow or back things, try high volume hindu pushups.

Ive been slowly upping my volume on them the past few weeks and they feel fucking amazing once you're used to them. Fixing my SI joint and right shoulder/elbow while adding volume for my triceps and upper erectors

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The tongue is a muscle right? So can't you technically inject an intramuscular shot into the tongue?

What would that even feel like lmao?

>>40668725
>Swollen tongue from PI inflammation
No thanks

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>>40668671
Youll never make it with that attitude

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>>40668776
Ay atleast I'm trying here.

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Night brehs. I gotta be up in like 5 hours for work. Don't forget to change your clocks forward one hour because farming or whatever.

Hopefully the work qt3.14 is feeling receptive tomorrow.

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>>40668873
Once im 250 6% Ill get a gf

>>40668990
No you wont

>>40669123
By then oil barrons will be paying me obscene amounts for muscle worship so Ill be able to buy and sell as many women as I want

I should avoid all alcoholic beverages while on cycle, correct?

Do you guys just take this shit to get /fit/? Isn't it possible to get taller or get a bigger dick with stuff like this? Like I'm 18 and say I have access to everything, could I still do that stuff or am I too late?

>>40669363
have you grown taller in the last 6 months?

>>40669363
NEVER DO STEROIDS UNTIL YOU ARE 25 YOU FUCKING RETARD

>>40669377
Not really desu, is there a way to know if your plates have closed for sure?

>>40669378
I haven't done shit yet

>>40669393
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3475892/

How long does it take to feel your first cycle?

>>40669378
Why

Give a real, empirical argument not scaremongering

>>40669426
Hornyness and pumps happen pretty early on.

The blow up in strength and the size gains happen much later on. I was underwhelmed until like week 8 where it felt like everything blew up almost overnight.

>>40669318
Anything hepatotoxic (orals and debatedly tren) it isn't a good idea. Not that people haven't done it.

>>40669414
Thanks, very informative read. So what I gather is that this type of therapy is only used legally for boys aged 14-16 who haven't naturally hit puberty yet.

I'm 18, and on the tail end of it. Still not sure how this would affect me.

>>40669476
Apart from not stacking hepatotoxic substances, I heard that some sort of estrogen spike can happen on just Test E because of a process in the liver that helps lower estrogen. If you take 500 mg of test E and then drink a lot you are asking for gyno. I don't know if that's all bro science though.

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What do you think the world record for number of females impregnated in 1 day by 1 man is?

When and where do you think it happened?

>>40669510
Well alcohol increases aromatase activity yeah. Especially IPAs

Takes yall more than one night to fuck a tinder bitch? I've always fucked first night and hardly ever took them on dates.

But I guess it's location.

>>40669510
Alcohol can reduce shbg so if your free test is high your conversion will be too

>>40669565
I'm an autist

Help out a fellow fraud and share tinder routine?

>>40669577
Does this partially explain the drunk horniness, I wonder? Not that SHBG isn't useful, but it seems that higher free test generally correlates with higher libido...

>>40669597
To be honest, I don't think anyone could tell you. I'd bet that it's is from nervous system effects more than hormonal, but that's just a guess.

>>40669581
I couldn't tell you. Idk how to hook up with girlsnit just happens. Kind of frustrating really

>>40669378
Why is that?

>>40669363
The results are not conclusive but hormone therapy is said to only accelerate growth, not alter the final result

Don't have to name the source, but does dnp exist capped for under $8/g?

I'm looking and everyone is selling it for like $100-120 for 50 caps of 250mg, which is ridiculously overpriced when you can find uncapped powder under 25c/g

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>>40667629

#21

>>40667911

I wouldn't touch that shit with a ten foot pole

>>40668167

very purposefully avoiding ltr shit

>>40669518

temüjin

>>40670111

it's the tax for having to deal with shit that basically needs its own plastic-draped clean room for processing while you use a tyvek suit, respirator, and goggles

>>40670185
I fully understand and respect an upcharge.

But 40x is insane

>>40670185
Why are you avoiding ltr shit?

Something about not trusting women -- which is fair from what I've seen -- or is it just not a good time in your life for that sort of thing?

Lets say I run deca at 600mg/week

How likely is it that I'll need to use prolactin control?

>>40670387
Depends on your genetics but it's very likely that you will need it.

Anyone have experience buying HGH online?

>>40668670
You dehydrate when you sleep, glands swell.

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Where to buy mk677? Everywhere I've looked is sold out

Mods: mk677 is legal.

>>40670739
Wouldn't supp shops sell it?

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>>40670744
Yes, but they are sold out or don't carry it for some reason. Off the top of my head blackstone labs, strongsupplementshop, and a1sups are out of stock or don't sell for some reason.

>>40670739
irc bio

Hey anons how do you deal with erectile dysfunction?
Are certain steroids more prone than others for causing it, is it just a random chance of getting it between person to person?

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>>40671021
Thanks

What are some low-risk supplements I should look into as a complete noob?

>>40671101
Creatine

>>40671138
I heard Creatine is dangerous though.

So I was looking at Hemsworth's IG and found a video of some of his training.

I realize he's on gear and that doing this type of training alone isn't what built his physique but it looked like fun.

You guys know of any routines like this I can check out? Something with circuit training and HIIT or strength training/conditioning?

>inb4 CrossFit
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRfb9OwhabA/

>>40668515
I know you're too paranoid to post pics, but would you link us something comparable to wtf is wrong with your face?

if its funny i want some lels, but also genuinely intrigued.

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Fuck being pale

Having winter is cool but I miss Florida

>>40671428
MT2 brah

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>>40668725
what about pinning into the shaft of your dick?

>>40668725
like blowing yourself

>>40671428
What the fuck,is that your fucking hair.
Do you walk around with a bush over your head.

>>40671849
>not injecting into your jaw mussels

Someone redpill me on DHB pls, I could cop a fuckton soon but I have heard and read it only shows its advantages at excessive dosages. Have I been memed?

>>40671202
Kys

>>40666306
2-3 weeks of 250mg DNP ED

>>40673208
I heard 400mg is good. I havent tried it yet.

Trest + Tren, who's done it?

>>40674194
I heard that below 600 I might as well just pin a shitload of bold, which is not what I am after, kek. But thanks for the input.

>>40674266
Bold converts at a low rate to dhb so Id say youd get more dhb at 400 then dhb from bold at 1000.

>>40674291
Point taken. Eh I will read up on the stuff nonetheless, just want some anecdotal experience too, literally had never even heard of the stuff (as its own compound) until two weeks ago.

>>40666583
ever since i started boxing my calves have exploded in size. i believe it stems from the hours of jump rope i do a week....just skip rope like half an hour every other day! make sure u jump of the ball of your food and push off every other foot between ticks if that makes sense

>>40666748
100ed is nothing especially at bodyweight....exercises like that should always be done at max frequency for time and increase time. id say 10 min. intervals *3 would work MUCH better

>>40665545
So how liver toxic is ephedra?
I was running tren and var and my levels where high, so dropped tren to 500 and var altogether, but would 25mg ephedra with 200mg caffeine twice a day be just as bad?

Any Canadians here order from that T source? Been thinking about it now due to the GOAT getting busted.

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been taking an average of probably less than 2 pilocarpine per day for the past month or so, because the side effects were debilitating and humiliating

this break i am going to be taking 2 every 2 hours

let us pretend this has a 100% chance of success because i am losing my mind again and its not from benadryl

all of you roiding niggerbros here. YOLO. fucking YOLO. some stupid SHIT like this could happen to you TOMORROW. fucking YOLO the fuck out of your life away. FUCK EVERYTHING.

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>TFW scared of first injection because have a paranoia that source tainted the vial with some sort of dangerous chemical that will cause necrosis in my leg and cause it to be amputated

How do I get over this fear?

>>40675247
by realizing a pathetic low test faggot loser had more balls than you

>>40675229
Dude thats not how it works,taking 2 every 2 hours wont fix your face but probably will fuck you up big time.

>>40675265
Le funny meme xD

I'm asking a serious question stop being a faggot

>>40675289
tell me how it works then

>>40675247
Inject in your bf while he sleeps, observe effects over a 2 week period.

>>40675328
Nah but for real

How do you guys get over this feeling.

>>40675289
and i have taken up to 6 at once

it for some reason made my dick have extreme pain, made me shit out literally like 10lbs of body weight, mouth was literally having saliva flow out of it like i turned on a sink, massive headache, etc

i am seeing a basically linear progress with how much i take

>>40675364
by not being a fucking retard? like a little kid is scared of apples or soemthing. "HUR CONVINCE ME, WHY SHOULD I NOT FEAR APPLES" because you wouldnt if u werent a fucking retarded fag

>>40675364
Read the reviews about your source on different websites.

>>40675397
I did after I ordered and now I don't trust them anymore

>>40675406
so throw your shit into the garbage and fuck off then?

>>40675406
Why would you do that after you ordered... buy new stuff then if you don't think its legit. That's the price you pay for being stupid.

>>40675422
>>40675419
I made a terrible mistake...

I overlooked some reviews and new info came out that made me rethink it all. Now it's too late. How likely is a source poisoning his gear?

>>40675229
Do swollen adrenal glands happen with simple testosterone enanthate and other shit like it?

>>40675439
Not likely poisoning. Selling bunk or badly sterilized gear is more likely but there really are some sick people out there so you never know.
You could put it in the oven at like 80-90c to sterilize the vials if they are suitable for that, but that doesn't guarantee anything. If there are some sketchy reviews coming in recently just buy new gear and throw the stuff out.

>>40675467
dont ask me i am a completely unique case, never seen before in the entirety of humanity

unless the magic of jesus hates your specific life you should be fine...

>>40675469
It's a few hundred dollars though. Kinda lame throwing it out.

And yeah I was just thinking about how you wouldn't be apply to do shit and nothing would happen to the source if let's say 1/50 vials were poisoned. That way one out of quite a few people would get poisoned and people would just claim it a coincidence or something.

>>40675475
..How do you know your swollen face is related to steroids abuse? What if it's just a tumor or something else unrelated?

>>40671253
Pls

>>40675549
>swollen face is related to steroids abuse?
i know its NOT actually
>>40675549
>What if it's just a tumor or something else unrelated?
well its not a tumor either

i got tested for ltierally everything in existence to the point i was diagnosed by a rheumatologist and 3-4 different salivary gland disorder specialists (one which was the head of a hospital) as having "IDIOPATHIC sialadenosis" which means no possible identifiable cause

everything was ruled out.

the actual cause is so called "bulimia", because i ate fast food that sat in my car in the summer heat for 2 months or some shit (lol) on accident

so i made myself vomit, then 3-4 days later woke up a freak

if you look it up, """""""""""bulimia"""""""""" induced sialadenosis has an instant onset 3-4 days after you cease vomiting

only thing that matches the time of onset, and only possible cause that has an instant onset (as in instant swelling, not slowly getting bigger)

retarded thing is i didnt even vomit. just stuck my fingers down my throat for a few minutes. i would be good at sucking dick since i apparently cant even make myself gag

>>40675509
You could inject a small amount subcutaneously and see what it does. If anything a small abces forms that you can easily drain, with some bad luck you need antibiotics and get a big wound. If its actual 'poison' which I doubt you'll still die depending on the dose of course. Kek but that is just too unlikely too happen.

>>40675611
Lol dumbfuck. Ugly ass retard

>>40675611
>the actual cause is so called "bulimia", because i ate fast food that sat in my car in the summer heat for 2 months or some shit (lol) on accident
.. what the fuck man

>>40675439
Poisoning your shit is literally more effort than not nowadays. I mean, underdosing or not giving a fuck about sterile brewing might ne one thing, but unironically putting harmful stuff in it is in no way as rampant as it is with recreational drugs, really no use besides a however sadistic giggle one might get out of it, but that is hopefully not gonna happen for 99% of sources.

>>40675641
What if it's like bleach or some shit

>>40675685
Obviously it's fucking retarded but there's a lot of weirdos these days man. There's people who masturbate in public and cum on unsuspecting women. Or like weird scat fetish pedophiles

Literally what would someone do if 1/50 vials happened to be poisoned or let's say had toxic levels of BA/BB.

If I am gonna be doing a lot of LISS cardio on a cutting cycle, would meldonium be a good idea?

>>40675611
maybe not being able to actually vomit was the part that did it. salivary glands produce saliva before vomiting to coat and protect the mouth and its mucous membranes, but if you are on the verge of vomiting too long they could overproduce and strain/obstruct or some shit. that said, you would have to retch for like five hours straight for that to even theoretically be a factor and bulimia induced swelling happens almost exclusively in the two biggest ones, the fact yours are swollen across literally the whole set on both sides is heinous and fascinating at the same time.

>>40675717
Your options are literally this:
>Inject it
>Not inject it

Whether or not you throw it out, hang on to it or whatever the fuck you wanna do is not relevant. Subq is the way with least dangers to inject. If that's too scary for you then ask yourself is your health worth the few hundreds of dollars? What about the potential hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills if you really do fuck up?
Jesus Christ we're not gonna magically find a way to tell you your shit is safe or not to take.

>>40675755
Hundreds OR thousands of dollars in...*
Not that dramatic..

>>40675717
get help, your paranoia is cute but worrying

>>40675755
Dude I just don't know. I was so certain in this but now that it's here I'm having a change of heart. I realize how insignificant a few hundred is in the grand scheme of things and how small the chance of anything besides it being bunk or underdised is but I can't stop thinking about it

>>40675770
Ive always had terrible paranoia, it's harming my quality of life

Anything good to add to a test/deca blast?
Dbol sends my cholesterol and bp into the shitter so am skipping. Goals to bulk ofc and hopefully not look like bloated shit.

>>40675820
Maybe steroids aren't for you than, at least not until you deal with your underlying issues. Steroids are never completely 'safe', next thing that's gonna happen is you get on a cycle and start worrying about all sorts of sides, let alone you actually get some sides and freak out.. how will you even be able to enjoy the whole experience?

>>40675836
Anadrol
EQ
More test

>>40675836
Anavar ?

>>40675849
I don't care about the sides I just don't want to get my legs amputated because the source thought it was hilarious to put bleach in my vials.

I can't stop imagining a scenario where I have to tell people I have no legs because "I bought steroids from a nameless, faceless criminal on the internet in order to make some gains"

>>40675820
I know the feel. I've bought gear and resterilized it myself before with filters/heat. That's an option. Wish I could ask like first 2 letters of source or something but I don't want ban</3

>>40675877
>>40675877
Okay, I'm not a shrink mate. Everything useful about this situation I already told ya. Just delay for a few weeks and think about it I guess.

>>40675906
>Delay for a few weeks

I've delayed it already...

Should I just do subq like you said then? I thought people said that was retarded due to it leaking out?

>>40675740
>bulimia induced swelling happens almost exclusively in the two biggest ones, the fact yours are swollen across literally the whole set on both sides is heinous and fascinating at the same time.

why does some random retarded fucking kid have to be the UNIQUE case in the WORLD with this mystery disfigurement

I can barely find a case with swollen submandibulars AND parotids at the same time

I have parotids, submandibulars, sublinguals, and minor parotids/accessory parotids on BOTH SIDES.

it's also literally fucking HILARIOUS how retarded "specialists" are. when i went for the sonogram, after they did it and the specialist thing looked it over, she came in to see me. she said "so you say you can feel swollen sublinguals as well? our scan shows they are normal."

and i said "feel them? uhh no, you can SEE THEM" and i lifted my head, and she was like "wow you are right, OH MY!"

like are you fucking kidding me.

>>40675853
>>40675856
I'll look into var, thanks guyz. Always assumed bathtub var would be fake though

>>40675919
neurotic low test faggot plz gtfo

>>40675919
Far fron everything will leak out, and you should just do like 0,5 cc or so. Just hold the needle at an angle and deposit the oil a few cm from the injection site nearly nothing will come out.
Also Idk but that's probably what I would do, but then again I haven't read the reviews or know your source so its just a guess based on what you told me. You make the decision not me.

>>40675877
might as well not buy anything ever. who knows if the (((government))) puts drugs into my broccoli.

>>40675944
Its not always bunk, obviously you'd have to find a reliable source where people have had it tested before.

>>40675969
more like estrogen

>>40675931
first i kekd at you for being a rich kike model turned chipmunk sideshow freak, the more i read about this i hope you figure your shit out, not necessarily because i care about the quality of life of a semianonymous stranger but the medical implications of this have me on the edge of my seat like a good movie. good luck with the pilo megadosing fwiw

>>40675961
Does it hurt?

Thanks senpai I'll actually try this probably

>>40675944
Var is an expensive and poor choice for your goals

>>40675993
nah cruciferous veggies actually help lower it indirectly, lel

>>40676015
..well you're sticking a needle through your skin so you can feel it, but it would be like getting a flu shot. So barely pain at all depending what you're used to..
Jesus dude did you even research before you bought a cycle ?

>>40675944
use mast instead

>>40676036
>did you even research before you bought a cycle ?
look around where you are and ask again

>>40676036
I thought I would figure it out as I went... It seems easy enough at least from everything I've read

Hopefully the ugl aromasin and clomid isn't bunk too

>>40676080
it's time to stop

>>40676080
Kek m8, you should get a name and post your blog here, you'd fit right in. Anyway good luck you'll most likely be just fine.

>>40676091
I've made a terrible mistake buying ugl didn't I?

>>40676103
no, your parents made a terrible mistake birthing an autistic kid

>>40676101
I'm scared anon

I wish I never chose this. There's so many things that could go wrong

>>40676154
There's bunch of things that could go wrong with literally everything you do. You could get killed just walking down the street for no reason. You wanna stay in bed for the rest of your life?

>>40675611
>because i ate fast food that sat in my car in the summer heat for 2 months or some shit (lol) on accident

What if some got through and it's actually the food. Go sue mcdonalds or some shit.

>>40676210
It's not the same risk as injecting liquid from a Chinese criminal off the internet

>>40676154
Lol anon you should work on fixing your anxiety/paranoia, lifting/steroids should be less of a concern.

>>40676154
I was using tren and anavar in normal doses, my liver toxicity levels went crazy.
Dropeed the var, turns out it was the tren, must've been made incorrectly, so I stopped using that and now I'm fine.
It's pretty simple senpai.
Also 99% of test isn't poison or some shit, why the fuck would someone make poison to sell instead of steroids, how you gonna get a good customer base if you kill them all?
The fuck m8

>>40676269
>my liver toxicity levels went crazy.
>turns out it was the tren
>must've been made incorrectly
wow..

>>40676233
I'm reading about subq it seems good

Why isn't everyone doing this?? Thanks anon that cleared up a lot of worry for me if it actually is safer for my particular concerns(I guess since it's in fat as opposed to deep AF in muscle)

>>40676030
So they have to put in more.

>>40676277
What did you mean by this?

>>40676282
Dude I'm just suggesting to subq the first dose of like 0.5cc so you can find our wether or not its a shitty batch that will give an infection or Sth.
After you are fine def do i.m. injections from there. The roids resorb too fast from the skin, you won't get stable blood levels this way if you do an actual cycle. Apart from all the weird oil bumps of like 2-3 cc each time lel.

>>40676307
R/steroids threads seem to say subq provides MORE stable levels actually, and that it actually absorbs slow AF compare to im

>>40676330
Okay guess you should write an article and publish it in the NEJM stating researchers/doctors have been using steroids incorrectly for decades.

>>40676330
You'll get way more stable levels by filling a syringe then playing darts with it instead of shooting it.
It's way less effective for being anabolic though

>>40676330
I forgot wether it is slower or faster the point tho is, it is not a reliable way of using steroids for long term.

>>40676354
There's studies about subq injections and r/steroids say that a lot of trt doctors recommend it actually...

>>40676372
>Oil releases slower causing more stable blood levels
>Somehow sustained high levels of testosterone mean you'll make less gains

How does that make any sense

>>40676399
Only because bodybuilders use high doses, otherwise r/steroids threads say it's legit if not better

Hell t nation article says it's more effective

>>40676004
he is just ungrateful.
even his face is getting bigger,yet he is complaining about this.
are there anyone else in this fucking planet earth that has a swole face ?

>>40676418
Think about it for a second m8, if you inject 500mg of test, and it takes 3 weeks to release in your body, is that the same as 500mg of test being released in 3 days?
And remember it's not absorbed as well as IM, so you're only getting about 60-70% of the stuff you inject.

>>40676418
Okay we are talking about an actual cycle though.. its unreliable because the oil is just too much volume and it won't be taken up evenly.

>>40676444
kek

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>>40676484
Dawg idk where you got 3 weeks and 3 days from, shit does not seem to take that long.

>Dr. Crisler believes this method gives you more bang for your testosterone buck. He says that 80 mg of subQ testosterone has the effect of a 100 mg of testosterone administered intramuscularly.

>>40676444
wut? what is this trying to even say, lol wtf

>>40676600
>dr. yahawashi believes all so called white people are going into slavery. he says that after 1000 years of hardcore bondage slavery the lord is gonna burn they ass up in a big ass bonfire

>>40676644
dude you are getting swole as a whole.
even your face is leaving humanity behind,embarace it.

>>40676644
Kys

>>40676288
tren is liver toxic and it wasn't "made incorrectly"

>>40676665
embrace my dick as it ruptures your faggot ass and unloads my toxic strain

Think 40 mg of accutane daily is good?

how much Arimidex should I buy for a 16 week cycle

>>40676688
nice double dubs m9.
when are you going to overdose with pilocarpine ?

>>40676688
you got dick sucking cheeks faggot

>>40676688
how does it feel knowing everybody gets better pussy than you

>>40676743
>pussy
>glands
lmao

>>40676737
after i workout because the extreme vertigo makes it impossible to lift

>>40676743
thats like saying to a homeless cripple with no legs or arms, "how does it feel to know i eat better food than you". like i dont give a shit ATM it affects me way more than just getting pussy.

i told u i am consistently getting ugly and sometimes fat bitches flirting trying to get my number etc.. i dont fucking WANT TO. although that might just be them trying to get my $$$ but still

>>40676776
d00d you are rich just fugg some escorts to get it out from your system.
>hurr durr I look ugly
how ugly are we talking about here ? those bitches fuck 300 pound 70 year old guys.

>>40676829
its not just ugly its deformed. google "sialadenosis". it is fucking shit.

i have them under my jaw, chin, in my cheek, and the giant ass ones behind my jaw/near my ear.

so my face is almost a completely amorphous blob.

After training and dieting consistently, do I change anything when finally getting on 400-500 mg test e/week?

Start to increase calories? Change programming (fucken bro split?)? Just increase volume?

>>40677339
>just increase volume
this.

>>40677355
ty bbugrrl

>>40677339
Increase volume, possibly increase calories a little bit, also increase frequency if you can and want to.

>>40676848
How come doctors cant cure your fucking glands,I would be pretty pissed t b h q f a m

>>40676776
do you speak english, faggot?

Is no porn/no fap a meme or do you think it actually helps to fix your brain?

>>40677522
Too much benadryl maybe.

>>40677577
Nofap is a meme, noporn definitely is not.

>>40677835
>noporn definitely is not.
this


i notice if i watch too much, i go around thinking "why are all these girls so fucking ugly"

then if i stop for a while i start thinking "how the fuck is every girl so hot"

>>40676282
ngl I tried subq'ing my first two injections but got pretty back lumps from them that took about two weeks to go away. I switched to IM injections and havent had a problem. Then again i was also using Test 400 so its alot more concentrated which could of been my problem.

>>40677876
In my case it comes down to arousal threshold. When you jerk it to seven massive cocks anally rapegangbanging a squealing bondaged teen into a fine pulp, just having vanilla-ish kitschy cuddlesex with a normal girl afterwards will not do the trick to get you off. Whereas not rubbing it to porn (only imagination or fairly normal pics) for two weeks has me almost cum too early when I jam it in the gf.

>>40677939
Well memed, friend ;-)

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Well brehs I failed myself kinda. The weather was shit today and we work outside so the work waifu ended up working in a completely different area than normal and she came in early and stayed there the whole time so I never even saw her nor got the opportunity to ask her out.

I know I can do it next week but I had planned on doing it today and then nature shits on my plans.

>>40666583
> synthol
Why do people do this stupid shit?

>>40677984
Is this the girl you were asking first date ideas for?

>>40677984
Literally excuses.

You could have easily figured out wherever she was staying and asked her out

I have a question /fraud/, yesterday I put a vial of test, that had fallen out of solution, into a cup half full with warm/hot water.
Then when it was good again I shot 0.5ml, put it back into the water so it would stay warm. When I checken back my gains goblin gf put the cup on the table, and in the process the vial fell over and was completely under water.
Would you throw it away? Or should the rubber stopper work at keeping every bit of water out, even after i used it once with a green needle.

Thanks

>>40678145
Rubber stopper will keep all water out.

But holy fuck tell that gains goblin not to touch your stuff.

>>40678007
WHATEVER IT TAKES

>>40678204
I'll shoo shoo her.
Thanks

Is your first PIP in a muscle worse than subsequent PIPs?

Is it possible to recover from a short Anavar cycle without PCT?

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>>40678138
I know where she was but where we work is huge and I'm only there for 4 hours and that was during our rush so we were both extremely busy. Like I would've had to drive over to where she was while she was busy. I know it's excuses but that's also the reality of it, trust me in disappointed in myself too. But that doesn't mean I'm still not going to make this shit happen.

>>40678107
I'm referring to the same person yes but not the pic.

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>>40678621
>Anavar cycle
>Likely solo
Post clit so we can determine your bodies ability to recover without exogenous compounds.

>>40678621
please die a death more miserable than the life i am living

>>40678602
Generally the first few injections are the worst, after which it becomes way better or nonexistent.

Sup /fraud/.
I got some free sust and no plans on doing a sust cycle. Would it be a bad idea to pin on my current pre cycle cut? I mean, there's 3ml max here that will probably see no use if I don't pin it now...
Oh, it's about to expire in 2 or 3 months btw

>>40678958
wat

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Got a fever again after injecting, exactly 7.5 hours after.

Seems like test/tren flu is caused by this little shitty metabolite.

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/35ci3t/test_flu_i_think_etiocholanolone_a_testosterone/

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>>40677984
Get these twink girl pics off muh fraud

Also make it happen next decent opportunity. IMO it should appear casual.

Hello, I'm a 5'11 181cm, 130lbs 60kg 18 year old white fucking male, i need to put on weight so people will stop bullying i'm also a poorfag so i cant afford much food but a friend of mine said he can get me dianobol, i have a few questions about this

Can i die from it?
will i still gain weight if i don't lift ?
are there any safer alternatives?

Any answer is much appreciated thank

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>>40679314
>Can I die from it?
No but you will feel shitty and make 0 gains.
>Will i still gain weight if i dont lift?
Yeah lots of water weight because your estrogen is sky high.
>Are there any safer alternatives?
Injecting test.

>>40679341
>Injecting test.
I think you're trying to be an epic trole and give me a heart attack but meh who cares i'll look into it

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>>40679150
>twink girl
Woah now.
>appear casual
I know. I don't want to just abruptly pull her to the side and be like ay let's go do something together on Monday.

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>>40679372
excuse me, are you fucking dumb.

there's a reason everyone keeps fucking spamming "test e 500mg/week 16 weeks for beginner cycle" here.

You're more likely to get a heart attack or heart related issues from doing dianabol solo than a well thought out test cycle.

fucking retard

>>40679413
thank
i will try but if i die, i will haunt your faggot ass for the rest of your miserable life

>>40679456
Also bonus tip, if you're gonna use test and not eat properly you will still get 0 gains.

steroids arent magic shit, all they do is enhance the gains you already should be getting.

>>40679372
>I think you're trying to be an epic trole and give me a heart attack but meh who cares i'll look into it
.................................................................................................what?

"epic troleing" is injecting testosterone? Who knew it could be so easy to be a troll

all you have to do is suggest good advice. maybe i've been a trole all along

Had two drinks at a club while on mtren and ot how rip is my liver?

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>>40679632
It already left the building.

>>40679650
if you don't think second from right is the hottest you're a retard

>>40679839
Kinda hard to tell given that you can see maybe 1/16th of her body

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>>40679839
Tbh none of them are that great looking. 2nd from right has those weird upsidedown crescent eyes when she smiles which can be cute on some girls and right has a really average face. I usually go for unique traits that make them look really...unique.

Like this girl I know is black or some sort of Caribbean islander, I keep forgetting to ask. But she has light brown skin but the brightest blue eyes I've seen in any girl. The basically force you to look into them because they're so damn pretty. It's weird.

NPP or EQ any good for cutting? Anyone have experience with this stuff?

>>40680061
Not really, both are good for putting on mass but I wouldn't use them for cutting. Maybe low dose EQ for some slight cardio benefit but thats about it. For cutting stick with just test, maybe tren or mast if you want a second oil.

Just jumped onto an opening sale.
Pray for me

>>40679944
thanks for this livejournal entry

>>40670739
... Cap? Is that you?

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>>40680149
I hope you enjoyed it.

>>40680358
I guarantee it.

>>40680526
I can haz mk 677 pls?

We need a new thread. I'm banned because I'm on Verizon.

>>40680732
I'm not him. That post was probably him though.

Anon who posted their Bulgarian routine on scribt and then deleted it

Wtf man, post it again please

>>40677984
Does she show any sign of interest in you, like catching her looking at you, body language, etc? It doesn't seem like she makes herself available to you, which could be a sign of sorts.

Not to take the legs out from under you, just temper your expectations.

>>40679409
>I don't want to just abruptly pull her to the side
That's not a want situation, you need to do that.

>>40681042
>catching her looking at you
she literally
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>>40679150
What are you advising even, casual isn't even within an autist's realm of possibility.

>Just go up and say hi
>girls love that shit

>>40681136
Have you resubbed to WoW yet? Better get your piss bottles ready beforehand.

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>>40681042
Well today and yesterday it was more of a she doesn't have a choice situation. She was assigned to work this specific task and that's what she did.

Normally in the mornings when we all get there and sit in the break room she'll sit next to me but generally wait for me to start talking to her. I feel like I haven't actually given her any indications I'm even interested in her.

>>40681084
Shit I may just do it if it doesn't workout how I'm thinking next Saturday. I don't want to keep fucking around and stressing myself out over what may be a dead end.

>>40681220
Ah yeah, you're definitely fucking up, she's interested.

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>>40681258
>you're definitely fucking up
Well that's the autism for ya I guess. As much as I think she'd say yes to a date I don't want her to feel super awkward if she for some reason doesn't because we'd still see each other there and it'd be pretty shitty if I made her feel awkward when she didn't before so I have to ask her in private but still casually.

Two unrelated questions, have you ever fucked with phenibut and have you actually brewed tren e without heat? My tren even using a little bit of heat always seems too thick compared to other oils of the same concentration.

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>>40681363
Bruh, don't spend so much time thinking about how she might feel. Chances are she'll end up disappointing you.

>>40681183
i tried to and got bored in less than 15 seconds literally and deleted it again


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