TIPS FOR SKINNY FATS

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Always bear in mind that you should progress on every train, feel better on a day to day basis, but you won't see significant results before 6 months to a 1 year of training (depending on your current fitness and height, mostly). Luckily, noob gains are always noticeable, tho.

Regarding routines: all routines are only as good as your effort in the gym. SS, Keethnabs SS, GSLP, AlphaDestiny's novice program, Candito's LP, ICF 5x5; all these are good programs for a true beginner; they're all very much alike. Reddit PPL isn't bad either, even tho it has lots of frivolous work for a beginner. Just pick one that fits your schedule and stick to it.

Put your max effort every time you hit the gym. This is what really matters.

Focus on the main compounds and getting your lifts up. Do your curls if you want big arms. Disregard youtube channels that every week posts a new meme "best exercise ever for...", "how to build bigger..." etc.

You'll only look like you lift after you stop being a novice; and you'll only stop being a novice once your lifts are respectable. Sure high volume has its place on hypertrophy, but high volume means moving lots of weight per training session; if you're doing 4x10 40kg squats, you're doing bitch weights/high reps - not high volume at all.

Nobody has ever built a big chest lifting 1pl8; nor big shoulders at 30kg OHP; your arms won't look big if you're cheat curling 12kg; your traps won't get big if you deadlift bodyweight only.

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>>40655213
I dont care about your thread, I just love Moose.

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>>40655236

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>>40655255

I'm fucking lost. I wouldn't say I'm skinny fat, I'm more normal fat (can see bones everywhere, but have beer belly) 1.8m 82kg ish (haven't checked in a long time)

I'm super out of shape, I have lordosis and rounded shoulders. I can't bend over and touch my toes, and I can't lay down on my back and put my hands above my head without lifting my lower back off the ground.

I want to workout, but SS says you shouldn't fuck with the program and add more exercises. Websites and the sticky are telling me to workout xxx muscles, stretch xxx muscles , do this this/that etc

Do I just try to fix my shit first, and then lift in a few months? Or do I do SS with the recommended exercises to fix my shit but don't ramp up the weights. Basically just do the lifts to learn the movement etc.

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>>40655267

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Is this a Moose thread?

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>>40655271
Dont overthink everything. Just start lifting, do SS. Godspeed.

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>>40655296
You guys like some Sophia?

>>40655317
not a cute face.

>>40655213
God the left picture looks just like my ex. I miss her so much.

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>>40655317
No, this is a moose thread. Make a Sophia thread if you want.

>>40655341
Apologies.

>>40655271
>I'm more normal fat (can see bones everywhere, but have beer belly)
>Do I just try to fix my shit first, and then lift in a few months?

Yes, you're perfect for that 2nd case.

Lose weight until you got no beer belly anymore. While losing weight, do push-ups, chin-ups, abs at home, every day through out the day, until you can do good number of clean reps (say, 12 chin-ups, 25 push-ups, 40 hanging leg raises, etc). Most importantly, do the stretching routine on sticky at least once a day every day. (https://phrakture.github.io/molding-mobility.html)

Once you get lean, join a gym, do a beginner routine and start clean bulking.

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>>40655350
It's cool.

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I wish I could order her shirt.

>>40655401
I don't understand nihilism.

Why do women ruin themselves with makeup?

>>40655432
because it raises their sexual value and makes them feel more special.

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>>40655424
most nihilists don't either

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>>40655452
ayyy

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>>40655424
It's not complicated. It's just the thought that nothing has any objective value. It's all subjective.

>>40655432
The Jews, seriously.

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Minimal makeup is fine, the clown makeup most girls wear is not.

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>>40655480
>Minimal makeup is fine
still damages their skin doesnt it?

>>40655213
Really good advice. Very cool of you OP

>>40655213
>20% bf
>only some weeks to get around 15%

D E L U S I O N

That would be 2 months.

>>40655468
>It's all subjective.
well that's not much of a belief system

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>>40655507
8 weeks are only a few weeks senpai

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>>40655494
Idk, I'm not a girl.

>>40655522
>philosophical thought
>belief

Come on, now.

>>40655543
people tote it around like it's a religion whenever they say they're nihilist,

I've never studied it, nor more than one semester of philosophy

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>>40655570
Well, it's not. It's the philosophical theory that life has no intrinsic meaning or value. With respect to the universe, existential nihilism posits that a single human or even the entire human species is insignificant, without purpose and unlikely to change in the totality of existence. According to the theory, each individual is an isolated being born into the universe, barred from knowing "why", yet compelled to invent meaning. The inherent meaninglessness of life is largely explored in the philosophical school of existentialism, where one can potentially create their own subjective "meaning" or "purpose".

>>40655494
no?

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>tfw will never mire Moose's pectorials

>>40655600
well it seems about as rock solid as determinism from your paragraph, thanks friend.

>>40655617
>ladypecs

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>>40655494
no, tanning damages their skin.

women wear makeup due to social pressure (it is seen as "unprofessional" to NOT wear makeup, and women who wear minimal makeup report being treated better than when they were no makeup). if they could skip it more often without negative consequences, they would.

women wear heavier, more colorful or unnatural makeup because, once you have a skill, it's human nature to want to play around with it.

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>>40655666
You're welcome, Satan.

>>40655617
i'd work her chest out if you know what i mean friends

>>40655213
>> go SS full Zach mode for some months (4-6 months)
>> http://startingstrength.com/resources/forum/mark-rippetoe-q-and-a/8177-kethnaab-rippetoe-workout.html follow this te/mplate
>> get your lifts to intermediate lv.
>> switch to bodybuilding routine (PHUL, PPL, whatever) and start cutting
This is retarded. You're retarded.

>>40655672
then why does guys skin look pretty ok when never having worn makeup when women look sick all the time unless they have "minimal" makeup?

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>>40655688
It better not be what I think it is. Moosefix is not for sexual.

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>>40655710
>tfw no moosefix for sexual
feels bad man

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>>40655723
>tfw no nerdy gf into lifting and rugby to go to vidya and comic conventions

End it.

>>40655736
>nerdy
nah m8

she's got to be autistic for me to dig it.

>>40655694
Not sure about for other ladies, but for me, wearing makeup regularly kills my ability to get a natural face tan so I go from looking slightly tanned to way pale

>>40655693
eh
Do it the other way than. The only people that will choose the 1st way over the 2nd are lanklets, and they're right about doing it. Skinny lanklets are literally slender men; builtfat lanklets are "big guys" for normie standards.

>>40655723
Damn, haven't seem this one yet.

>>40655694
because you literally do not know what women look like due to assuming photoshopped, airbrushed, or made-up is "natural."

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>>40655745
She probably is, I mean she played Skyrim to 100% completion.

>>40655751
Nah m8, my buddy is an borderline neet and doesn't constantly have bags under his eyes without makeup

>>40655770
>because you literally do not know what women look like

then why do women genetically always have huge puffy bags under their eyes?
makeup hasn't been around long enough to hide it and it's unattractive which is why they try to hide it.
it should have been bred out of them

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>>40655773
>>40655773
>She probably is, I mean she played Skyrim to 100% completion.
hot

>>40655808
that's a man baby

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>>40655810
Faggot.

>>40655766
It's retarded because you're telling someone to get to a relatively high-level in strength and once they're at a certain level, fuck it all off and do some shitty baby weights bb program for roiders? That's straight bonehead talk. Just continue with strength + accessories and cut if you're at a bf% you're not happy with.

>>40655818
>liking a muscular, clown-faced, video game playing, big cocked tranny

whose the faggy now friend

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>>40655831
me I guess

>>40655796
I haven't had the same experience as you then. Most my lady friend just get slightly less clear skin (due to wearing make up) or end up less tan. Puffy eyes are visible with or without makeup.

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>>40655831
>not liking a fit, qt who plays vidya

u were the fag all along

>>40655424
Probably because you're not an edge teenager.

>>40655365
>belly
I lost 70 pounds and I'm now underweight and I still have it

>>40655831
>it's a man baby
fugg
I would still commit the crime

>>40655828
>some shitty baby weights bb program for roiders
> PHUL
wtf
It's literally Power Hypertrophy Upper Lower program. You're doing 3 main lifts 2x a week at least + OHP variations.

PPL is not a specific program, rather just a 3 day split. There are both bb roiders PPL and strength PPL.

>>40655935
oh sorry, I misread

>>40655902
You should've lifted while losing 70lbs, duh. Start lifting asap, and body re-composition will probably do the job for you, if you're really underweight.

>>40655213
Does she have an instagram or something?
As a bi grill I am rather...intrigued.

Also I need to stop being skinny fat and a lazy git.

>>40655966
Yeah, probably. Eating at a surplus while lifting will be nice at least

>>40655980
kys whore

>>40655810
In all honesty, her face and waist proportions are so cute and feminine that I haven't even noticed those big arms until this thread.

>>40655213

I went with the first route and it's definitely harder. Cutting when you're already on a daily weight lifting routine is tricky because it takes a lot of planning to get enough pre-workout food and post-workout protein for lifting without ending up overeating. And for me, not losing weight basically entails being hungry all the time.

>>40655480

I wish I could tell all girls two things:

>stop with the clown makeup
>fix your fucking posture

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>>40655424
Nihilism is pretty meh overall

>>40655980

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Very nice anon
Shame that I've not known this earlier. Well I did SL fot some time unfortunaly had a two month depression time when I barely was going to the gym and now Ihave mediocre stats in lifting. I already started cutting and watch carefully my diet and with the start of april I will change my routine to some split. At least I've gained 5 kg of muscle while only 1,4 of fat so hopefully when I cut it I won't gonna look ao bad

>>40656038
Intermittent fasting did wonders for me in this regard of not feeling hungry.

It's actually way easier to cope with this feeling of "I will eat something as soon as I finish this" every morning than the feeling eating portioned meals and not feeling satiated at all.

>>40656177

you mean intermittent fasting helped you stop being bothered by the feeling of hunger in general, or it helped you lose weight?

I sort of cut intermittently. I usually let myself bulk up to 185 lbs (but gain a little fat along with the muscle), then I cut down to 175 when I start to feel self conscious

>>40656087
>basing opinions off of a chart made on 4chan

Lmao.

Everything in this picture is shit tier.

so you're asking an already skinny guy to get even more skinny? That's nonsense

If you have fat and you're skinny, just lift, get those gains then when you're happy or unhappy about your fat just cut

cutting when you have no muscle underneath is stupid

>>40656206
>intermittent fasting helped you stop being bothered by the feeling of hunger in general
this
I never had much difficult losing weight bc I'm 6'5, so I have to eat I lot to maintain. Nowadays, I just drink less whole milk or stop drinking it all.

>>40655213
no feet pics? what the fuck

>>40656267
>I never had much difficult losing weight bc I'm 6'5, so I have to eat I lot to maintain. Nowadays, I just drink less whole milk or stop drinking it all.

I've never found cutting down on fat intake to be helpful. I just cut carbs. A month with no beer (and no other changes to my diet) cuts 5 lbs.

>>40656290
Yeah, no beer no bread no pasta it's the most effective for me too. When I mentioned cut the whole milk, I mean all the milk, I don't drink skim either...

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>>40656286
how could I never seen this

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>>40656451
I'm not a footfag but those feet look yummy. Is there any part of her that's not perfect?

>>40656451
She's a qt. How does her bf look like?
>inb4 her

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>>40656797
>I'm not a footfag but those feet look yummy

>>40655213
Why don't you post what you look like RIGHT THIS MOMENT instead of some silly fucking girl?

you gave us all this advice and nothing to back it up so it's totally disregarded.

>>40657471
Because girls are pretty

Do you reckon she bleaches her asshole?
What do her toes taste like?

>>40655213
Thanks OP

>>40658062
god i hope not

>>40656216
...you cant really be anything else, atheism is on there?

>>40656216
Enjoy your lack of spirituality turd.

>>40656935
.> tfw you realize she probably got an regular nerd dyel bf

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>no moose gf to cuddle

>>40655213
>SS
Dropped

>>40655271
I will make a step by step guide for you to follow since you dont seem like you have any self control at all, follow this completely

1) go to gym twice to do basic SS, find weakness in form, then go do mobility/body weight for 2 weeks or however long it takes you to feel better. FInd info on this stuff of Reddit, like posts on flexibility and pullups.

2)You are skinny fat(gut plus small arms is skinny fat), be completely honest or post a pic

3)decide to slow cut or slow bulk, do SS to maximize strength, it seems like you lost a ton of weight but u still need to look at ur body, can u gain a bit more fat? if not then cut because all the strength gains in the world wont help u feel good shirtless and consistently going to the gym.

good luck this is the exact same advice i gave to my neet best friend who wanted to change

Most of /fit/ is a bunch of DYELS or ugly teenagers doing 5 x 5's

my dream is to be dominated by moose

>>40656087
>having the need to put a label on your belief system

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>>40658062
She's pretty pale, I bet it's milky white naturally.

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>>40656087
>putting a bunch of philosophical schools in the same chart with a bunch of religious belief systems

This was made by a retard.

>>40658062
All natural, light pink.

Toes taste like peaches.

>>40655213
>Lean bulk or cutting only 300 cal/day are memes

so how much? -500 or more?

183 cm
75 kg
i can grab my moobs, belly and ass