About that milk you drink...

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>not drinking milk for feces gains
It's like you don't even want to make it.

16oz of milk is around 300 calories and 16g of protein. Perfect bulking drink

I like to run through a nice pro/con list when considering what I should do/not do in life. Here's a short one.
PROS:
>Diverse amino acid profile.
>Tastes good with the cookies you bought from the grillscouts that live down the street.
>Easy to get a lot of calories from during bulkan season.
>Most minorities are lactose intolerant and it justifies your need to feel superior to them.
>Tastes bretty good.
CONS:
>Your love for milk forces you to respond to bait threads on an anime image board.

>>40650873
so it has acidic protein that leeches. at least it also has calcium from bones.

>>40650873

>not getting your free extra GH and antibiotics on bulking season

>>40650873
>he gets his feces from milk
Top kek, its not even bioavailable

>>40650873
I don't live in a third world country like the US, so there's no antibiotics in my food.

>>40650873
>2015
>not satiating yourself with fluid from the engorged udder of the majestic she-beast

>>40650884
This! It's like he doesn't know about fecal transplants that save lives

>>40651107
>>Most minorities are lactose intolerant and it justifies your need to feel superior to them.

Lol

>>40650873
The female vagina has all that stuff and more but I don't see people straying away from that

>>40650873
Who gives a fuck about a mere million cells of pus, I probably inhale ten times that every time I ride a bus.

There is literally nothing wrong with drinking milk. If you think otherwise I suggest you buy a jap face mask for all the horrid trace asbestos fumes in the air.

>>40651245
>Female vagina has 300 calories

NIGGA I WISH

Eh, I've swallowed worse.

>>40651302
You're not eating hard enough

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>>40651245
speak for yourself

Milk is WHITE and REDPILLED.

>>40651299
typical brianwashed human being. Like 95% of the population.

Drinking milk of a complete different species by constantly impregnating them and filling them up with hormones, while there is no reason at all to do it.

Ofc drinking milk doesnt kill you, but the dairy industry supports living conditions for cows like they were for jews during the holocaust.

Why put something in your body that you dont need. You can also eat cow shit, probably also full of protein and with some puss. But you dont die from it so there is nothing wrong with eating it.

The only reason you cant stop drinking it is because you are too weak minded to stop lying to yourself and let reality sink in. You are never gonna make it mentally.

>>40651351

>dairy industry supports living conditions for cows like they were for jews during the holocaust

So they support imaginary living conditions? I don't get it.

>Pus Cell
>Acidic Protein which leeches

>>40651351
Bro, I accept it all. I can't taste the shit or the puss. Your fancy organic carrots are covered in shit as well. Difference between you and me is I'm not a picky eater squeamish beta.

Who gives a fuck about how cows are treated anyway. Sure it's sad, but milk grows my muscles so I will continue to drink it. And while you're on your moral high horse, make sure to throw your computer in the trash as a statement against chink kids' wage slavery.

>>40651351

>Sent from my iPhone.

>>40651107
All of this, especially:

>Most minorities are lactose intolerant and it justifies your need to feel superior to them.

"""""They""""" can rape our women but at least they won't be able to digest milk!

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>Look at OP's pic
>"calcium from bones"
>"Acidic protein which leeches"
>WTF.jpeg
>This is some next level broscience
>Check out the watermarked site
>Actually not broscience
>Way too much faggotry to qualify as bro-esque
>2017
>Enter numale-science

tl;dr
Milk:bad
Sucking transgenre foxkin dick:good

>>40650873
who fucking cares you loser? what is this 5 year old kid logic
>if I tell them that theres pus cells in milk theyre totally gonna be grossed out and go vegan
fuck off numale

>>40650873
>135 million pus cells
There are no such thing as "pus cells"

>Bovine Growth Hormones
>Antibiotics
>Feces
What is pasteurisation and how does it work

>51 milligrams Cholesterol
Cholesterol is a useful lipid, most of your hormones are synthesised from it. Also, this doesn't clarify whether it's LDL or HDL. Foolish alarmism.

>300 Calories
You can burn that off with a brisk wank

>16 grams of fat
So?

>Acidic protein
Proteins are not acidic, solutions are acidic. Proteins in acidic solution will denature and lose their shape. Either milk itself is acidic, and how would we tolerate it if it is, or this is poorly thought out nonsense.

>Calcium from bones
Bones aren't even 100% calcium to begin with, and our body adds and subtracts calcium from them naturally through the use of osteoblasts and osteoclast cells.

>>40651193
no your country is probably just infested with dirty sand nigger refugees. Salty faggot

>>40651302
>skipping period days
Never gonna make it

>>40650873
I'm gonna enjoy it even more now

>>40651395
>>40651413

True. I'm not perfect either regarding to the environment. But I try to take small steps at a time. If you feel deep inside it's sad for the cows and you can help reduce the damage being done to the cows by only a tiny margin, why don't you?

I'll try to refute all arguments i heard:
- the taste (do you value taste of milk over the life of a cow?)
- it has protein (Just as easy to replace by other sources)
- because if you start doing 1 thing you should also stop do anything that causes harm to anything (why can't someone just do 1 thing that causes something good in the world?)
- I don't care about the living conditions or lifes of animals (you are lying to yourself or you arent human)

>>40651478

Not the person you are replying to but milk reduces the calcium in your body, making your bones, nails and hair more brittle.

If you are really so shallow and stupid that you identify with drinking milk as part of your existence then you should stop living.

>>40651495
Well milk IS acidic, and in case you haven't read any basic nutrition, most humans are lactose intolerant but can build a tolerance by consuming milk on a regular basis.

You guys defend milk like it's NOT going to give you gyno; post a pic of your gross tits and show everyone what milk does

>>40651642
Yes i do value taste over the life of a cow. I'm not a Christian who thinks all life is sacred. I'll eat meat, chicken, go fishing with my dad, squash an ant and yes, drink milk, because I firmly believe that there is nothing wrong with any of this. Why is it all of a sudden such a massively horrible thing to do all the shit humans have been doing since we started walking on two feet?

And no, you can't just do one thing good for the world and start berating others for not adopting it like yourself. I put spiders outside when I find them in the house instead of killing them, give cigarettes and change to homeless people, and a multitude of other small but basically meaningless niceties, but fucking no way am I going to start lording it up over other people and dumping my dead spiders and hobos at their doors. Vegans do this and I have literally no idea why they feel they are allowed to.

>>40650873
>free gh
Why wouldn't I drink it?

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>>40651591

>>40651804
>milk is free
Communist?

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>>40651752
>What a fag
>Google milk hormone side effects
>"Milk from cows given rBGH has higher levels of insulinlike growth factor-1
>IFG-1 is a hormone that helps cells grow, but it can also increase the risk of cancerous cells forming"

Milk literally gives you cancer

>>40651833
everything gives you cancer you fucking moron
literally eating a normal balanced diet increases your IGF-1
have fun starving to death

>>40651842
Don't take it so seriously

>>40651851
too many fucking retards spouting IGF-1 bullshittery lately
that's basically my go-to response

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>>40650873
>bovine growth hormones

so if I drink a shit ton of milk am I going to get beefy?

>>40651351
Moo vey! It's another Shoah! 6 gorillion (((cows))) are suffering. Give them back the TruMoo farms for their cattle ethnostate.

>>40651426
>>40651107
Is this a thing? Minorities being lactose intolerant? I have actually never met a minority that is lactose intolerant. All the lactose intolerant people I've ever met are white. I thought it was the other way around?

>>40651358
this tbqh

>>40651819
Do cows charge you for milk anon? Please don't tell me you're paying the river to drink some water?

>>40651894
nope, liver destroys anything not made to resist it
that's why you still have to inject test in 2017 instead of eating a pill

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>>40651908
It's real. Blacks and Asians cannot digest milk as good as White people.

>>40651926
So if I eat liver will whatever test or hgh that gets shot into cows be absorbed by my bod?

>>40651894
it's a protein and denatured and digested into amino acids

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>>40651908
>Minorities being lactose intolerant?
If you mean black and yellow people then yeah.

>not wanting growth hormones and pus gains

>>40651899
Booo

>>40651935
no, your liver will destroy any kind of hormone-like substance ingested

>>40651944
>If you mean black and yellow people then yeah.

this is to mean that whites are minorities on a global scale.

>>40650873
>lactose intolerant subhuman butthurt
Never gets old.

>>40651351
>t.a fag who lives in or around a major city and never seen a rural farm

>>40651926
> injecting test

Uhhh what? What sorta Alpha male doesn't already have an over abundant amount of natural test?

>>40651786
>Why is it all of a sudden such a massively horrible thing to do all the shit humans have been doing since we started walking on two feet?

Anon used tradition argument, it's not very effective

>>40651965
anyone over 45 faggot.

>>40651351
>the holocaust
The fuck is that? Do you have some sort of retarded head canon about jews?

>>40651786
>I'm not a Christian who thinks all life is sacred. I'll eat meat
you're ignorant and you should kill yourself

>>40651969
>>40651994
Deluded, middle class white kids with nothing to campaign for.

>>40652055
Christians have no qualms eating meat you shit eating window licker.

>>40651786
Hi i'm the guy you actually responded to. Thanks, you actually write down what you think. I disagree, but respect that you do.

I just wanna say im not berating or telling anyone how to live their lives. I'm just trying to say how i feel about this and I want to make people aware of it. But almost always everyone gets defensive immediately. Im not attacking you for eating meat. I just try to open conversation about it.

>>40651933
What's up with Greenland?

>>40650873
Oh shit, so I'm not a virgin?

>>40652212
polar bears aren't white

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>>40650873
yes goy, stop drinking milk. You're not getting your daily dose of female hormones from the tap water.

>>40651351
>by constantly impregnating them
you're fucking idiot
pregnant cow milk is inedible. They give milk without being pregnant

>>40651351
Milk protein is one of the most anabolic and highest quality proteins around you stinking mouth breathing vegtard. It figures you don't know this with all your education coming from peta memes and all

You cant help but spread your degenerate animism cancer everywhere you go and anthropomorphize every dumb animal you come across because youre a brainlet manchild too impaired to form actual high level relationships with humans. Then you cry and wonder why nobody outside of furaffinity cults take you seriously lmao

>>40652251
>pregnant cow milk is inedible. They give milk without being pregnant
No, they don't. Cows are pregnant 300 days a year so their mik yield does not decrease

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>>40652265
>>40652252
>corrects his posts
>still forgets the apostrophe

>>40652272
just shut your whore mouth. I grew up on a farm

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>>40650873
I eat ass on the first date

you aint scaring me

>>40652275
awwwww looks like internet colloquialism is too much for babby

>>40651642

>do you value taste of milk over the life of a cow?
Yes.

>why can't someone just do 1 thing that causes something good in the world?
Because other people will keep drinking milk and eating meat regardless of what you do. Besides, I'll keep drinking milk and eating animals regardless of what anyone else does, so it'll never end.

>I don't care about the living conditions or lifes of animals (you are lying to yourself or you arent human)
I do care if animals suffer needlessly (i.e. some nigger tortures a cat or something) but if a cow has to die for my steak then so be it.

inb4 "lol easy 4 u 2 say u dont kill da cow lel"
Fuck off, I've killed 3 cows before. And a horse. And ate from all 4.

>>40651107
>Most minorities are lactose intolerant and it justifies your need to feel superior to them.
Damn it, I always buy a liter of milk in the store next to my gym after a workout. The cashier is usually a shitskin, and I always think to myself "haha you inferior faggot you could not even digest what I am buying"

>>40652318
Awww, looks like retard is unable to use punctuation marks.

>>40652252
>your a brainlet manchild

Justify drinking milk whichever way you like, it's won't stop being wrong.

I don't think i've ever seen a good argument defending drinking milk

>>40652331

>Cares if animals suffer needlessly
>Eats steak and drinks milk

Pick one

>>40652212
Eskimos didn't domesticate dairy cows

>>40651944
What's up with Democratic Republic of Congo?

Are there still a lot of people of Belgian descent there?

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>>40651351

>the dairy industry supports living conditions for cows like they were for jews during the holocaust

OY VEY how dare you GOYIM try to undermine the SACRED TRUTH of the holocaust by implying that the 6 Million Jews had it as good as cows.

I swear to G-D we lived in cages even smaller than the ones for cattle and we were milked 24 times a day, not just once, and HITLER HIMSELF milked my grandmother's tits 46 times (G-D rest her soul).

Never forget the 6 Billion of G-D's CHOSEN PEOPLE who were milked to death by Goebbels himself in the Nazi Dairy Camps.

>>40652360
lol, since you probably never seen a good argument defending breathing you're probably thinking about stopping breathing too?
you can survive on milk alone. Won't be an optimal diet, but it's a well known fact.

>>40652383

>needlessly

Stupid faggot, I have a need for steak and milk. Cows dying satisfies that need.

There is no need to torture an animal or kill it if you don't get meat or dairy or eggs or anything from it.

Milk gives me acne which sucks, but it's easy calories and cheap.

>>40651908
>>40651944
>>40651951
>>40652391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRukQ7KNw7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j0Hw3pepLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oxhGJRPQZ0

Daily reminder if you drink milk you are literally Hitler.

>>40652357
...said the social illiterate who delusionally believes every interaction is a term paper

But I guess this is just what having downs syndrome is like. sad :^(

>>40650873
I work in the food industry: Any food you didn't grow yourself and prepare in your own kitchen probably had something gross happen to it along the way.

>135 million puss cells
there is no such thing as "puss cells"
cows only lactate puss if they are sick, in which case their milk is thrown away since you can taste it.
>bovine growth hormone
only in countries where it is allowed, also see the below point.
>antibiotics
yeah, because if you get tomatoes laden with pesticides (which you often do) - it means that tomatoes are a bad food, top logic.
>feces
almost all food has feces in it to some degree.
>51mg of cholesterol
>300kcal
>16 grams of fat
wow, milk has nutrients in it, how disgusting.
>hur dur acidic protein
if you're so concerned about this, stop eating protein - see what happens

>>40652474

Anti-milkers BTFO.

Will they ever recover?

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>>40650873
>current year
>not putting feces in your beverages

>>40650873
What are pus cells?

>>40652360
>i'm rite! ur wrong!

Yep thats how you detect a fully grown vegtard alright, about how complex their reasoning style goes

>>40652404
>since you probably never seen a good argument defending breathing you're probably thinking about stopping breathing too?

Thanks for proving my point

>>40651351
Confirmed for never setting foot outside a city, probably one city

>>40652411
You appear to be in an ethical contradiction.
The only reason you 'need' meat and dairy is to satisfy your tastebuds. You don't need any of it to be perfectly healthy, I would even argue it's more benefitial for your health, but lets safe that for another discussion. So i have to disagree with you actually needing it.

So you value taste over animal well being.

For me this realisation was the trigger to go vegan. I didn't consider myself weak and could not find a flaw in this argument. So since that day I never ate meat or dairy again.

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>>40650873

>>40652490
>What are pus cells?
There is no such thing. Puss is made up of white blood cells, other dead cells and bacteria.

Cows that are sick and have puss in their milk aren't milked or have their milk thrown away - it would spoil the rest of the milk in the supply chain.

also:
>meat eating scum: your food has animal cells in it - i bet you think that is gross
lol

>>40652529
Good for you, nobody cares

>>40652529
>You don't need any of it to be perfectly healthy
What does that even mean?

>>40652529

>So you value taste over animal well being.

And?

>So since that day I never ate meat or dairy again.

Nice blogpost no one cares.

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Wow OP you are a fucking faggot
went to check out the source

>http://rawforbeautyprints.com/ebooks/video/#sthash.qpn3nsph.YIE8eb2F.dpbs

OP IS SPREADING PROPAGANDA FOR A VEGAN SITE AIMED AT OLD PEOPLE

>>40652503
I grew up around farms. I've seen how farmers love their animals and try to treat them right, but the facts remain the same: cows are phisically and mentally tormented by being stuck indoors for 6 months during winter. They always have to be pregnant and get their calves taken away immidiately after birth. It's against nature.

>>40652587

>It's against nature.

So is shitting in a toilet because you deprive the ground of nutirents.

So is using TP because a tree had to die to make it.

Fuck off.

>>40652587
It's almost like you want to be ridiculed and told to fuck off back to your cave.

>>40652490
Every doctor who hears the phrase pus cell will think of neutrophils, but this phrase doesn't exist in medicine.If they imply neutrophils then no big deal. If they imply pus than that means what the other guy told you - neutrophils + bacteria + cellular debris. This also isn't dangerous for the consumer (pasteurization) but people don't allow actual pus in the milk because it tastes bad.

>>40652493
>about how complex their reasoning style goes

Vegan values: stop exploitation and cruelty.

My argument doesn't need to be sophisticated because it is that simple.

The only way you can defend drinking milk is by admitting you don't care about the suffering of other creatures (likely), you're about to die of starvation (unlikely), or you can't afford/find vegan ingredients (unlikely).

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>>40651351
>muh hall of cost
hahahah oy fucking vey

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>>40652396
I love it

>>40652653
Just give a good substitute to milk

>>40652653
>The only way you can defend drinking milk is by admitting you don't care about the suffering of other creatures
Yeah, you care so much about cows. But fuck insects and rodents - because large-scale agriculture just kills the shit out of them. Also fuck the sweatshop workers that make your iPod or your shoes.

Even the vegan-gains guy says how he hates children and would murder them if he could get away with it - but he is morally superior because he wouldn't do the same to a calf.

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>>40650873
Guess what, stupid little troll?
There are feces EVERYWHERE. You literally CANNOT avoid them. They're ALL OVER EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE. You'd have to boil your entire LIFE, including your body, and douse everything in bleach -- and you STILL wouldn't get rid of EVERY SINGLE PARTICLE OF SHIT.

Guess what else, retarded troll?
You have literally TRILLIONS of bacteria ALL OVER YOUR BODY AND ALL OVER YOUR INSIDES. That's right, they're EVERYWHERE. Better go jump into a furnace and burn yourself to ashes, that's the ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF ALL OF THEM. You're literally host to thousands of species of bacteria and virii.

EVERYTHING YOU EAT is FULL of microorganisms. You'd have to BURN EVERYTHING TO ASHES to get rid of all of it -- then there'd be no food value left.

You also EAT TINY SPIDERS every time you sleep. You can't avoid it.

Better kill yourself now, OP, before they take over and all come exploding out of your chest like Alien. You're literally host to invading organisms, how filthy!

>>40652587
You vegtards really are permanent laughing stocks. Muh feels after irrationally anthropomorphizing cognitively primitive animals and anti-scientific denial of the bioactives in milk beyond supplying calories isnt argumentation it's just you getting triggered

>>40652939
>>40652653

>>40652866
Get pissed anon.

>breathes in
>millions of fecal particles in the air enter mouth
You can't avoid this shit, germaphobe.

>>40650873
> 135 million pus cells
'pus' is not a cell. it's byproducts of bacterial infestation which is removed from milk by pasteurization

> bovine GH
DA HORROR

> antibiotics
DA HORROR

> feces
[citation needed]

> 51mg cholesterol
DA HORROR

> THREE HUNDRED CALORIES
DA HORROR

> S I X T E E N GRAMS OF FAT
HOLY SHIT

> Acidic protein which leeches Calcium from bones
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA all AAs are acidic. that's why they're called amino ACIDS. And the 'leeches calcium from bones' part is utter broscience considering milk contains fucktons of calcium

why are vegans so bad at science

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>that first white privileged laden sip of the day

>>40652495
your point being that you're a retard. Glad we came to a conclusion.

>>40652468
I was just taking piss out of you. I'm not even the same guy you originally argued with. I thought only vegans are constantly butthurt (since their turds cut diamonds as I heard).

>>40652482
Drinking milk became racist, triggering and not PC in just one month. What a time to be alive.

>>40653266
vegan fags are yet to address the rebuttal this guy was quoting, so he is right: they just claim shit and when they get called on their bullshit they ignore it.

>>40650873
I hate this stupid "puss is gross, ewww!!" meme

I'd literally drink cow seamen if it cost/tasted the same as milk and had the same nutritional value.

>>40652251

excuse I, but newmilk ( as we call it when cow has had a calf) is prettyu fucking edible, u just have to cook it or some other magic grown ups do.

>>40653341
only cucks cook their milk. Drink it RAW, come on!
Anyway, when I was young I drank raw milk daily, as did my brother. I'm 6'2, he's 6'5.

>>40653341
>>40653383
I mean, I know it's edible, but it tastes bad. We always stopped drinking it whenever cow got pregnant

>>40650873
lmao what the fuck is rawbeauty.com? have some science insteadhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2039733/

"• Milk contains many important nutrients.

• A moderate intake of milk fat has no negative health effects.

• The increasing consumption of milk products added sugar and sugar containing jams should be questioned.

• It is possible to adjust feeding regimes to develop milk with increased content of healthy components such as selenium, iodine and some fatty acids."

and i just took the first ncbi article i found.
now go fuck yourself, faggot

>>40650873
>135m Pus Cells
Nope, as >>40652474, >>40652534, >>40652642 have pointed out - that's pure bullshit.
>Growth Hormone
>Antibiotics
Are forbidden/restricted and strictly controlled for in most of the world. Sure some people break the law, but you don't hear people claiming that all vegetables are bad for you just because some contain dangerous pesticides or heavy metals.
>Feces
You'll find microscopic amounts of feces in pretty much everything, the amount matters. Also, milk is pasteurized. Vegetables are grown in fields strewn with feces, mushrooms often come with bits of compost containing feces - will you stop eating vegetables and mushrooms too?
>51mg of Cholesterol
>300kcal
>15g of Fat
Oh shit, food contains nutrients - stop the fucking presses. Better tell people to start eating cardboard instead.
>Acidic protein which leeches calcium from bones
The solution is to stop eating protein - and die an agonizing death after a couple months. Yeah, let's do that. Your body has the ability to buffer pH levels, calling on that ability is not unhealthy (unless you consider being alive unhealthy) - that's like saying that digestion is unhealthy and you should stop eating anything. Also - vegan babies tend to have a lot more developmental bone anomalies than children who drink milk.

You know why this shit pisses me of? Not because it's blatantly untrue. It's because you fags are preying on children to make use of their pickiness so you can convert them to your cause.

All food is disgusting in some way if you start hair-splitting long enough. It's like starting to tell them all about shit caused by medical malpractice and accidents to have them stop going to the doctor, or telling them about all the bad shit that can happen if they go outside to turn them into shut-ins.

You're setting them down a path that will result in plenty of children having eating disorders, developmental problems and diseases just so you can multiply your numbers- you're literal cancer.

>>40651133
Beat me to it

>>40651752
>nails and hair
calcium

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>>40650873
The pus you are referring to is called mastitis. It is a general term for a myriad variety of infections of the udder. You know when milk goes bad when your dumbass forgets to put it away? Yeah, that happens in the cow. We are on a constant outlook for it because it is bad, obviously. We have filters that catch the chunks, but the liquid still makes it through. The milk is graded on how many somatic cells (white blood cells that form in reaction to infection, aka puss, iirc) that the milk contains. Here in Michigan you are paid differently depending on your milk grade, so there is huge incentive on a business level to keep these numbers low.

The filters that catch the mastitis also catch the feces. Why is there feces? Because stupid cows shit on literally everything and then kick the milkers off into the shit where we yank them out, curse the stupid bitch, and clean them off.

The antibiotics are an effort to fight mastitis, when infected we start the cow on antibiotics and she is not allowed in the tank. They are "hot" cows. At our farm we put red bands on there back legs. If any antibiotics make it into the tank, usually on accident. Then the tank is tested, if it comes back positive the whole thing is dumped on the ground. Literally 20,000 pounds of milk wasted over one mistake.

>>40651752
>milk reduces the calcium in your body
>Well milk IS acidic
So is all protein, most fruits and a lot of vegetables.

By that logic lemons are bad for your bones. And so are lentils, or almond milk, or avocado, or soy-beans, or peanuts.

Unpasteurized milk is pH neutral, pasteurized milk is slightly acidic, yogurts/kefir/etc. are alkaline.

Once again for the retards: milk contains more calcium than most other sources of protein, which counters the acidity of the amino acids released by protein breakdown to a large degree ie. getting protein from milk is better for your bones than getting it from many other sources of protein.

Saying that all food that isn't pH neutral is bad for you is the peak of retardation.

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>>40652587
You are fucking retarded, kinda like the stupid cows you idolize so much. You know what happens when they get out? They go to the feed piles and that is about it. Unless they wander off and fall in the shitpit, no joke.

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>>40653341
Lol, new milk? Its called colostrum and it has the viscosity of thick syrup. Would not drink.

What is the end game of vegans? Do they realize if they managed to delete the milk and beef industry those cows will all be mass slaughtered? Its not like they will be kept as pets, at least not 99.99% of them.

>>40653306
Kek

>>40651752
>influx of calcium reduces calcium in your body
>The body isn't able to control a minimal excess of calcium

Ever heard of calcitonin?

>>40651833
> can also increase
> can also
> CAN

also we literally produce IGF-1 endogenously and raising its levels is currently a target for diabetes treatment. Obviously the trace amounts found in milk are safe otherwise we wouldn't be ratcheting them up with drugs lmao

>>40653768
It's about the peoples health. Milk and meat both contribute to the outrageously high obesity and heart disease epidemic that is plaguing this country. The also contribute to the high rates of cancer. The fact that people won't give it up merely because it tastes good speaks volumes about the state of health of the American people.

There are better, healthier sources of proteins and calcium than milk, sources which don't include the extremely high cholesterol.

>>40654028
>Milk and meat both contribute to the outrageously high obesity and heart disease epidemic that is plaguing this country.
... he wrote on a forum filled with /fit/ people, many of whom wolf down large quantities of meat and diary.

>extremely high cholesterol.
>milk
Yeah, but vegetables cause pedophilia. See; I can make shit up, too.

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>>40650873
I know this is b8 but
>Pus cells
Yeah those aren't a thing. And Cows with mastitis are culled from the herd. Somatic cells(naturally occurring bacterias) are kept beneath a safe threshold and then destroyed under flash pasteurization
>Bovine growth hormone
Not typically used in the dairy industry in the united States. Rbst is out completely and others are more commonly used in non lactation cycle.
>Feces
Not if you're a clean milker and having feces in the milk would raise your somatic cell counts above the legal threshold triggering a dump protocol
>Cholesterol meme
Dude lmao
>300 calories
Of proteins, good fats including leptin a key nutrients for the body to realize it is satiated (srsly look it up) it's like you hate gainz
>Acidic protein
Lol not even a thing (amino acids are always acids)

>>40650873
Those cells are like someone spitting in a pool of 20 2-liter Pepsi bottles.

>>40651922
you fuckin retard, it costs to maintain cows, to give them food, water and health. kys nigger

>>40651933
glad to be part of glorious Aryan milk drinker master race, especially as everyone except me is dairy intolerant in my family

>>40651908
When you are young your body produces lactase which helps you digest breast milk. Originally, most people stopped producing lactase after a certain age and could therefore no longer digest milk past infancy. When the people who would become Nords migrated North and started domesticating animals such as sheep, goats, and cows, those who's bodies kept producing lactase into adulthood were given a large evolutionary advantage over those who couldn't because milk was a calorie dense source of vitamins and minerals in an otherwise unforgiving location. This allowed them to pass on their genes and eventually, the majority of them could digest milk well into adulthood. Many other societies, Asians in particular, we're never big on domesticating cattle for whatever cultural reasons and got their calcium and minerals mostly from certain plants. This is still reflected in their cuisine today (when was the last time you saw an Asian food with cheese in it). Because of this, there was never evolutionary pressure for them to keep producing lactase into adulthood thus explaining why many Asians and other minorities are lactose intolerant.

>>40653576
Yup this. Gotta do the clover test to make sure no antibiotics are in the milk. Antibiotics in the milk literally never happens.

>>40654028
>>40654028
> MUH CHOLESTEROL
mitigated by exercise and healthy diet

> MUH CANCER

> one WHO study shows that a diet high in processed and red meats correlates with a slight increase in colon cancer risk
> vegans begin autistically shrieking that they were right all along because correlation implies causation

>>40654062
It doesn't matter how fit they are, it still affects their body. That's like saying a /fit/izen can drink a lot of alcohol everyday just because they exercise and not expect it to affect their health.

Milk does have cholesterol in it. According to Google it's 12mg per 1 cup milk. Any amount of cholesterol is bad for you in the long run.

>>40654136
>Any amount is bad in the long run
Wut? Lol it's another anon thinks he can eat his way to immortality episode.

>>40654129
You don't have to believe it causes cancer, but a high fat, high cholesterol diet definitely causes heart disease. Of course this can be mitigated by exercise, but it's not fool proof. You also said a healthy diet mitigates it, but hardly anyone has a healthy diet, especially if half of their caloric intake on a daily basis is meat or dairy.

>>40654151
I went vegan mainly to get rid of my awful acid reflux. And guess what, it worked.

>>40651642
>being this idealistic

You fell for the moral standards meme

>>40654136
> any amount of cholesterol is bad for you
http://www.pnas.org/content/101/23/8797.short

good thing we can reverse atherosclerosis by exercising

>>40654202
> You also said a healthy diet mitigates it, but hardly anyone has a healthy diet, especially if half of their caloric intake on a daily basis is meat or dairy.

senpai you're on a FITNESS FORUM. Most people here exercise and understand the importance of a balanced diet and exercise in overall health, unless you're making claims about people in general

>>40650873
only in america

>>40650873
>Bovine Growth Hormones
Good thing your body digests all the fucking proteins and steroid hormones you ingest orally...

Otherwise I'd just drink my vials of test and GH.

>>40650873
>acid protein which leeches
what did they mean by this?

>>40654136
You specifically mentioned dairy and meat as a cause of obesity, on a board which proves time and time again that obesity is caused by lack of self-control and sedentary habits - not any one type of food. Which is also what any study and a passing knowledge of physics will tell you.

>12mg per serving
>"extremely high cholesterol"
Yeah right, but now you're shifting the goal-posts, I see.

>Any amount of cholesterol is bad for you in the long run.
Any amount of breathing is bad for you in the long run: oxidative stress. Any amount of carbo-hydrates are bad for you in the long run: oxidative stress, micro-trauma to cells. We are not fucking immortal and the very act of living slowly kills us - will going vegan fix this?

>inb4 b-but that's an appeal to bigger problems
Cholesterol is important for hormonal balance, even drinking 25 glasses of milk (300mg, the daily recommended intake) every single day won't cause problems unless you pair it with a bunch of bad lifestyle choices. Drinking water to excess will kill you, doesn't mean it is bad to drink it: You're appealing to the slippery slope.

This shit must only happen in the states. I'm glad I live in Denmark. Feels good to have clean milk.

>>40651351
you're smart and I like you

>>40651833
IGF-1 has no oral bioavailability past infancy and certain inflammatory GI disease. Milk can only increase IGF-1 if it's fixing some vitamin/mineral/amino acid deficiency that impairs its synthesis. Malnutrition is not a good prevention strategy.

IGF-1 has protective effects against cancer as well such as increasing DNA repair and enhancing the immune system's ability to detect and kill cancer cells. Same goes for other components of milk like glutamylcysteine. Cancer is not as childishly simple as you make it out to be. Everything you can comprehend and a lot of things you will never comprehend have been researched in depth by people much smarter than you.

>>40654136
>Any amount of cholesterol is bad for you in the long run.
Better not eat any plants, then.

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ed082p1791

>>40651426
>what is Lactaid

>>40654202
>a high fat, high cholesterol diet = eating meat and milk
yeah, right.

>12mg per serving is "exremely high cholesterol content"
literally 4% of RDA with 5% of calories, if anything - milk doesn't have enough cholesterol.

>cholesterol is always bad
yeah, having healthy joints and normal hormonal levels is so fucking unhealthy.

>You also said a healthy diet mitigates it, but hardly anyone has a healthy diet..
>Well, maybe the main problem is not meat and dairy but unhealthy diets - IT'S STILL THE MEATS FAULT, THOUGH!

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>>40654028
So to save people from themselves you want to slaughter millions of living feeling animals?

Look at these poor cows, you want to kill them and all their friends? They would be forced onto a trailer, hauled for miles, terrified with no idea of what is happening. Then at the end they are lead into a room and slaughtered like cattle! How horrible of you. You should advocate exercise instead, seems much more humane. Fuck you evil scum.

>>40654210
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4315380/
Just like with losing weight, diet will do a better job of reducing atherosclerosis than only exercise.

>>40654225
Mostly about people in general, but the people on this board also have a limited understanding. Even in the sticky it only really mentions proteins, carbs, and fats, with little importance placed on the source of them. I've seen plenty of threads about people here blindly cutting carbs only to eat more meat or dairy to compensate simply because of the protein and taste.

>>40654275
>will going vegan fix this?
No, but it mitigates the damage much better than only exercise will do. Diet is much easier to fix, and with the relatively high calorie content of meat compared to vegetables it's easier to overeat with them. You're correct in that one food by itself won't cause obesity but obesity is not the main concern for the lifting person in this context. The other health concerns aren't as visible in the short term and thus people are easy to dismiss them. When my father got cancer I was eager to find any way to prevent him from developing it again, even if I won't know straight away whether it works or not. I don't understand why people are so averse to not eating meat or dairy, or at least limiting their intake to once a month with a much higher proportion of vegetables and fruits for the rest of the time.

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>>40654361
>Then at the end they are lead into a room and slaughtered like cattle
>slaughtered like cattle

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>>40652451
>drinking milk is racist and hate speech

when will the madness end?

>>40654136

>Any amount of cholesterol is bad for you in the long run.

Dietary cholesterol is fine you stupid NIGGER.

>>40654592
>when will the madness end?
when america balkanizes and the mixing of different cultures and races ends

the milk is racist meme comes from the fact that more Blacks and Asians are lactose intolerant than Europeans are.

the whole racism issue is literally genetics and in group preference so it will never end even if all violent crime ends.

>>40654028
>It's about the peoples health

This anthropocentric crock of shit is directly opposite the aim of veganism, which is ACTUALLY about achieving justice for animals. The health argument just gives murderers an excuse to quit the lifestyle at the first complication.

>>40654653
>murderers
murder is the act of a human killing an human

>>40654202
>Bringing in new information to further move the goal posts
The post.
Anyways Benjamin Button most of us don't have the digestive issues as an octegenarian so while you are forced to live a dietary hell it in no way means that your advice will be relevant to a healthy young person. Just because you got burned by genes doesn't mean we can't enjoy milk. And you know what fluid milk actually helps acid reflux because it's like drinking liquid tums due to the high calcium. Dumb fucking nigger.

I think the average fruit/veggie has a significant amount of feces and pieces of insects/bug corpses as well. What's the difference.

>>40654653
>Murderers
Livestock agriculture is actually the textbook example of a symbiotic relationship where all species involved are receiving positives out of the social contract
The animals get
>Safety
>Food
>Guaranteed species survival
The humans get
>Nutritional by products.

>>40654653
Are lions murderers?

>>40651107
I'm white and I'm lactose intolerant
>triggered

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>>40651504
That reply. Calling him salty. Stay fat ameripleb

>>40651107
>tfw have enough white genes to digest milk but dad and sister are lactose intolerant

Thanks mom!

>>40654771
This, cattle cannot survive without us.

>>40654496
>Diet is much easier to fix, and with the relatively high calorie content of meat compared to vegetables it's easier to overeat with them.
So:
>By being omnivorous you're at increased risk to be a slob with no self-control
>Fix this by switching to a much more restrictive diet.
Do you seriously not see how stupid and hypocritical it is? We already went over this: not having self-control is unhealthy, no shit sherlock. Someone stuffing tons of fried rice and soy ice-cream into themselves is not any better off. Lifting weights with terrible form will send you in a wheel-chair, that doesn't fucking mean lifting weights is bad.

>The other health concerns aren't as visible in the short term and thus people are easy to dismiss them.
Such as? A minor increase in cancer risk? Yeah, but only if you don't account for the extra risk you take on by eating extra vegetables that might have heavy metals, pesticides, naturally occurring radiation, distruptive prohormones etc.. AGAIN: Any food you eat will slowly kill you, just like every breath you take and every sip of water. Eating meat a couple times a week and not doing shit like deep frying it is not in any way unhealthy. Eating meat does not in any way preclude you from eating lots of vegetables and avoiding processed foods. Vegetables are healthy? No shit.

The main problem is with our starting outlook:
>Veganism: not eating animal products AND eating a healthy, well-balances, well-portioned diet taking care to avoid any pitfalls and deficiencies possible with such a diet.
>Omnivorism: eating animal products COUPLED with excessive consumption of nutrient poor foods and avoidance of vegetables and everything else responsible for most of the positive health effects seen in vegans.
Yeah, no shit that veganism will seem healthier if you go by that fucked up comparison. You assume vegans will make all the right choices and omnivores all the wrong ones.

>>40654653
>murderers

female detected

>>40650873
>eeeewwwww your cow secretions have cow secretions in them
who gives a shit

And there's only 100 calories in an 8 oz glass, most of them coming from the milk.

>>40653007
The spiders was overkill but everything else was spot on.

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>>40651358
Too meta for me.

>>40654653
I'm not even vegan but I agree with you on this

veganism is an E T H I C A L stance. Always has been. Historically, vegetarian and vegan diets have always arisen out of a desire for animal welfare

The purported health benefits of a vegan diet are completely secondary to the fact that it's primarily based on animal rights

>>40654496
>I don't understand why people are so averse to not eating meat or dairy
Because:
>the health benefits are dubious, unless you assume: eating meat = eating deep fried chicken all day and avoiding vegetables like the plague
>if you're allowed to have an smart-phone, wear brand sneakers, own a car, drive on roads, live in modern society and think you have the right to ignore all the death and suffering all those things cause - then I have the right to eat a fucking steak without short-sighted, holier-than-thou idiots giving me shit for it. especially when the food you eat results in tons of pollution and animal death too.
>the mark of a mature person is being able to disagree with people without constantly having to do shit like trying to drag kids into their "struggle."

TL;DR: exaggerations, lies, hypocrisy, viciousness and militancy coated with "concern" makes vegans very unpalatable to most people.

Why do vegans stink? I went on a few dates with a vegan girl and she just always had bad breath. Is it a nutritional thing? Should I have told her?

>>40655103
>the health benefits are dubious
They aren't dubious.
>unless you assume: eating meat = eating deep fried chicken all day and avoiding vegetables like the plague
This is most Americans.

>if you're allowed to have modern things that obviously means I'm allowed to harm my body in any way I want and nobody can tell me it's bad
Look dude, I smoke, but I freely admit that it's bad for my health and the health of those around me. Doesn't make it okay. Likewise, the people telling you it's bad aren't wrong just because it annoys you or you feel you're entitled to it.

>the mark of a mature person
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Most kids in the US have awful diets.

>>40654496
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4315380/

>Metabolism of L-carnitine by the intestinal microbiome is associated with atherosclerosis in omnivores but not in vegetarians, supporting CAD benefits of a plant-based diet. >Trimethylamine-N-oxide may cause atherosclerosis via macrophage activation.
Not that poster but this paper is the only thing here that isn't completely empty claims and not even past the abstract we can already see it's very narrative. The study cited to support the idea that vegans produce less TMAO was based on an n=1 with no control. There's massive variability even among omnivores.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2016/08/study-looks-diet-assess-link-heart-disease-metabolite

Carbs and fiber also cause TMAO production.

pubmed.gov/27993177
>This finding suggests that both higher CHO intake alone and high RS intake alone are sufficient to promote the production of trimethylamine by the colonic microbiota, and that both must be reduced in order to attenuate this process.

While diary products inhibit it.

pubmed.gov/25727903

Not to mention the neutral/even protective results conveniently ignored.

http://www.atherosclerosis-journal.com/article/0021-9150(76)90106-4/abstract
pubmed.gov/21470057
pubmed.gov/9733225
pubmed.gov/27792658
pubmed.gov/26584136
pubmed.gov/23597877
pubmed.gov/10650325
pubmed.gov/1445476
pubmed.gov/9784909
pubmed.gov/19827991
pubmed.gov/3280157
pubmed.gov/1794297
pubmed.gov/2285631
pubmed.gov/22936457
pubmed.gov/18993165
pubmed.gov/7605374
pubmed.gov/11529691

All while praising stuff on fasting TMAO confounded by diabetics and kidney disease patients and a single model giving mutant mice super-dosed 3.25g/kg choline or carnitine without other osmolytes like what would be found it food when they're known to be interdependent on each other.

pubmed.gov/25691688
pubmed.gov/25493436
pubmed.gov/8359577

>>40654890
I believe the increased risk is more than minor for eating meat and dairy as far as various lethal and degenerative diseases go. I don't think I'll be able to convince you otherwise so I'll leave it at that. The obesity problem is the majority problem, whereas on a board where most people have a healthier diet it doesn't apply as much. The problem for them is subtler, and since they can't see it they dismiss it.

>only if you don't account for the extra risk you take on by eating extra vegetables
All of those can also be found in meat, and worse, and the risk is negligible in comparison. You're not really making any point by saying "oh yeah, w-well veges are bad for you too! so is water! so take that vegans".

>Eating meat a couple times a week
Virtually nobody who eats meat does this. It is the norm to have meat for almost every meal of every day, especially in America. If you go into any restaurant you'll be hard pressed to find many dishes that have neither meat nor dairy.

>>40652212
Greenland is Danish and Danish are cucks desu

This comes down to a morals argument
And since morality is subjective

No sale
I like meat dairy and eggs more than i like livestock

i dont really approve of factory farming and i listen to morrissey, but i hate vegans so much ill just straight up poor milk down the drain and let eggs go bad in the fridge and it makes me feel good. i wish there was something more confrontational i could do.

>>40655632

morality is not subjective. like ill eat all sorts of meats, but morality is objective or intersubjective. morality being subjective is an extreme millenial meme and it should be avoided.

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>>40650873
>Bovine Growth Hormones
WHATEVER IT TAKES

>300 calories

What? That's like the double a glass of milk have.

>>40655658

Of course it is
It's not an objective, measurable thing
It's just what some people say is or isn't ok

The aztecs thought it was cool to cut out hearts as sacrifices
The greeks thought pedarasty was awesome
I don't care about livestock

>>40655680

no fuck. you're being an extreme millennial. i think it's great that you dont care about cows. literally meat farming is our economy and culture.

i can into it with you here but you can still be really edgy and whatever you want and still understand what objective morality is and is not. like your aztec example is fucked. just do a little research at r/askphilosophy or some such shithole.

>>40653221
wew this is a shit pepe, not even gunna collect

>>40655715

Philosophy just depends on which branch you follow
Certain brands of antinatalist utilitarians find killing people moral as it reduces total suffering

There's no unit or particle of morality

>>40653605
>fall in the shitpit

fucking kek

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>>40650873

>>40651933
>Proof_argentina_is_white.jpg

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>>40651245
>female vagina

>>40655475
>They aren't dubious.
Ok, what exactly are the oh so terrible health effect of eating meat? Without confalting correlation with causation, please.
>This is most Americans.
So if they went vegan they would still eat like shit, just like someone try paleo or any other diet and not making a difference because they take all their unhealthy patterns and attitudes towards food with them.
>Doesn't make it okay. Likewise, the people telling you it's bad aren't wrong just because it annoys you or you feel you're entitled to it.
The point is that you don't get to play the moral high ground based on an arbitrary thing you chose to care about. This doesn't apply to all vegans, but a lot of them just use their "cause" as an excuse to vent their misanthropy.
> Most kids in the US have awful diets.
Yeah, and they are obese and have dietary deficiencies, insulin resistance and all manner of trouble because what? They drink milk? Nigga, please.

>>40655572
>"oh yeah, w-well veges are bad for you too! so is water! so take that vegans".
Nice strawman, let me break it down more simply: if you switch from one mode of transportation to another - you can't just look at all the bonus points of the new mode - you also have to consider the downsides of the new mode to get a complete picture. Vegans have fewer problems in some respects, but they also raise their incidence of other health problems.
>Virtually nobody who eats meat does this.
Literally the majority of my country does this. The whole world isn't America. I know, shocking.

>>40651107
>tastes bretty good
Why do people think this? Milk tastes fucking terrible.

>>40651107
Nice list.

The amount of mental gymnastics in this thread is insane

Only one or two anons have admitted they don't care about the welfare of livestock. Everyone else has made really bad arguments trying to justify their way out of avoiding the truth - every glass of milk you drink, animals had to suffer & die for it.

If my veganism comes up in conversation I get accosted by carnivores, a full on interrogation. People who say vegans are in your faces have never been around omnivores meeting a vegan

Once I explain my reasons they get very very defensive. It's hard to be confronted with the morality of your actions.

>>40651229
Uh buddy, I think it's time you stepped out of the gym, you're a few years behind

>>40651495
>300 Calories
>You can burn that off with a brisk wank
Kek

>>40652331
Conformity, if enough people stop eventually everyone will.

>>40656775
Because people have varying taste from each other. Shocking.

>>40652335
Lmao I imagined you saying it out loud

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>>40650873

Let's play a game of Spot the shitskin

>>40652212
There's like three Danes on the whole island and they own it because of that, the other 200 people are native and have never seen a cow.

>>40657126
No, there will never be a day when more than a small minority of people stop eating meat.

>>40655852
Fucking kek all these years i didnt believe them

>>40655665
That's myostatin deficiency

>>40652866
beta cuck detected

>>40657190
This, it's natty for people to want to kill and eat things.

Wired in your brain
Just like in group preferences
Or the desire to make babies.

>>40651642
>- because if you start doing 1 thing you should also stop do anything that causes harm to anything (why can't someone just do 1 thing that causes something good in the world?)
>- I don't care about the living conditions or lifes of animals (you are lying to yourself or you arent human)
Have you ever been around cows? Not just visited a mom and pop farm during a kindergarten field trip, I men spent actual time rearing cattle?

Cows are fucking stupid. They have the most basic of survival instincts to the point that it's pitiable. You're arguing for the continued existence of a species that is horrible for the environment overall, but don't want to kill them off for the sake of their sole purpose of being bred.

If you free all the cows from their "slavery," we have no reason to continue to care for them other than some misguided attempt at repentance that would cause problems with no concrete outcome, just retarded good fee fees. And if we left the cows to their own devices, they would all die. Quickly. All the while potentially fucking up the surrounding environments even more due to their consumption of local plant life (potentially ruining any land that could be used for farming) and the inevitable swarming of predators that would love slow moving and dim-witted targets.

There is no happy, only-natural life for cows. We bred that out of them 12,000 years ago. Your solution involves either the mass killing of cows as a mercy, or the continued pollution of the earth to keep cows alive for the sole purpose of guilt.

>>40650873
The meme about acidic and alcaline foods has to die once and for all

>>40653605
Lol that or get on the road and total a Mexicans van. Seriously that happened once.
>>40657052
>Carnivores
Kys baiting faggot.
See>>40654771
Morally there is nothing wrong with two species giving and taking from one another.

>>40657740
I 2nd this and furthermore what happens to all those chickens. I'm sure flightless the size of rabbits will do great in the wild. Pigs I will admit can survive in the wild but are so destructive to plant based agriculture they would have to be hunted down like, dare I say, animals.

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>>40651351
>the dairy industry supports living conditions for cows like they were for jews during the holocaust.
>jews during the holocaust.

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>>40651833
Oh noes teh evil igf-1 better not exercise!!!

>>40658029
>defending a literal CARCINOGEN

I wonder who could be behind this post

>>40657992
>Morally there is nothing wrong with two species giving and taking from one another.

Because species mutualism is equivalent to killing 90,000 cows per day (in the US).

Nice meme

>>40658110
Sure why isn't it in a world with 7 billion people and 350,000 born each day. The relationship has been scaled up that's all. Your big numbers don't scare me. Do better.

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>>40658080
Fucking kikes permacucking little kids into attending school despite knowing full well that THINKING CAUSES CANCER

http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v16/n5/full/nn.3356.html

>>40658080
>a lot of the same stuff (like igf-1) that makes normal cells grow also helps cancerous cells grow
>therefore it's universally bad
bad that logic we should all just take chemo preemptively.

I wish all pseudoscientists would just kill themselves

>>40650873
>135 million cells
There are more skin cells in a glass of milk that's sat out in the average home for ten minutes.

>bovine growth hormones
That's a plus.

>antibiotics
Keep you healthy for maximum gains

>feces
There's animal feces in all our food. It's unavoidable.

>51mg cholesterol
Cholesterol isn't inherently bad.

>300 calories
Nutrient dense.

>16g fat
Gotta hit those macros! Don't forget, you get 16g protein in each glass too!

>acidic protein
Broscience.

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>2017
>drinks milk

you manbabies gotta be kidding, disgusting

>>40651245
I eat pussy to

>>40651245
>eating pussy
What a faggot

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>>40655715
>objective morality

lmao get fucked

>Bovine Growth Hormones
>goes to store to buy more milk

>>40660231
it's called the new testament kouhai.

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Here you go

>>40651504
Kek who the fuck is the salty one? Answer: the ameriflab

>>40652529

I 100% agree with you. It isn't necessary to eat meat nor is it ethical; however, it's just simply too inconvenient to become vegan. I would estimate that 95% of the world's cuisine revolves around meat.

>>40650873
the flying fuck is a pus cell?

pus is basically plasma and dead white blood cells. You'll find that in literally any meat and dairy product. It was part of a fucking animal, unless it just had chemo there are going to be some vestigial traces of immune function.

Unless you grow your own veg, there will be some delightful pesticides dribbled all over the store purchased goodness you gobble up.

>What is a liver and what does it do.

Fuck.

Also EU has the good grace to ban something on the grounds of a harrowing number of side effects. Enjoy your titties, american milk drinkers.

>>40651351

How the hell is cowshit meant to be full of protein you complete sponge. Extrapolating to the point of extremity doesn't prove your initial point any more valid.

>>40654800
The feels :^(

>>40658333
Why not just go all the way and kill ourselves now?

>>40652090
Well they're not meant to eat pork or shrimp or anything that feeds off the ground/bottom of something

>>40650873
>pus
delicious

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>>40657740
This, not to mention the lack of natural immune systems and drpendency on us for disease control. They are constantly bin jurying themselves too because they can't into the simplest of tasks.

>alright, go in the door.
>does this twice a day for last five years
>lolnope, forgot how, freak out and fall down
>well that's that
>literally completely lose the will to live and just lay there until hauled to the deathpen where she slowly dies while we try to help her

They cannot survive in their own. They are 1000# toddlers with anxiety disorders and wayyy to much strength who should not be allowed to make independent decisions.

>>40651107
Feelin' ya m80

>>40651642
Have you seen how milk cows live? I live in the countryside and all they do is wander around their pasture all day, grazing on green grass. They're kept inside a barn during the winter, warm and dry. There is absolutely nothing inhumane about the treatment of milk cows, and modern laws and regulations enforce that.

>>40660301
>dominion over animals is nothing
>REAL CHRISTIANS ARE VEGAN

Go ahead and gas yourself kike.

>>40661426
you might be onto something, that would be a fantastic way to get rid of all the igf-1 and other bullshit cancerous stuff our bodies keep pumping out like total shitlords.

>>40650873
>calcium from bones

sold

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>>40650873
butthurt vegetarians and their lies.

>>40662468
>vegetarians don't drink milk

you silly goose

>>40661535
They're not supposed to eat meat on Fridays during Lent. You're thinking of Jews and saracenes.

>inb4 Protestants
>kys heretics

>>40661535
>Well they're not meant to eat pork or shrimp or anything that feeds off the ground/bottom of something
Wait, does that include grazing animals?

>>40650873
>.Acidic protein which leeches
>.calcium from bones

I wouldnt take much from an image thats improperly structured

>>40662314
>Acidic milk, made of pus and shit, leeching the calcium from my bones
Vegans write the best metal lyrics, you gotta hand it to them.

>>40650873
fuck off vegans, i like the idea that my muscles are made from the remains of dead animals.

>>40661769
Cows
>Do the splits once
>Back legs never work again
>A "wild" herd simply leaves it to die
>Alone
>From thirst or literally being eaten alive
>Farmers would have lifted it up with a tractor and given her hobbles to see if she can walk
>If she can't we end her miserable existence quickly and cleanly while she sips water and eats alfalfa
>Vegans be like DUDE NATURE IS SO MORAL.

>>40664373
>cows
>do the splits
does that happen often, how the fuck did they survive before humans if they're that bad at not dying.

Animal rights activists should be shot (and will be, because they're usually also commies).

>>40665770
The ones that fuck up, die. It's natural selection.

>>40665770
They were probably less retarded 10 000 years ago.

>>40665770
We have enacted artificial selection for thousands of years, they are now bred to produce not survive. Kind of like modern humans, even the weak pass on their genes.

>>40664373
I think that most vegans have never actually done more than visit a farm. They seem to think cows are awesome magnificent creatures that are inhumanely enslaved against their will, when truth be told they do not really have much of a will.

>>40665770
Yes. It is actually sad. A "wild"cow probably would've resembled a beef cow moreso. But as another anon mentioned earlier cows haven't really been wild for thousands of years. None of the grazing species are especially adept survivors. Look at their life expectancy in the wild.

Canadian milk master race.

People that drink milk:
Humans

People that don't drink milk:
Non-whites

>>40665801
Nigga im no commie

>>40651495
>"a brisk wank"
nigga unless you're into some freaky heart-attack inducing wanking you're overestimating the benefits of wanking