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How has girls attitude to you change after you went from fit to big

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How has the attitude to girls changed after you went from fit to big? I am currently 6'2 at 180lbs, been lifting for 3 years and have some definition but I am not big and rarely get attention from girls.

Has getting changed gotten you more attention or made it easier to get laid? Discuss!
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>>40633717
>6'2" 180
>3 fucking years
Hahahahahaha
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>>40633726
Whats funny? Wasted alot of time not knowing what I was doing (and even now don't really know)
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I began to give less of a shit about what women thought.

Being strong is its own reward. Women love muscles because they aren't physically strong.

I guess I get more looks from women. But I'm still a novice.
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>>40633717
I'm in decent shape, defintly stonger and better looking than normies, no where near fit standards though. I'll reply to this post with body pic.

No difference in the attention I receive. I still have to give them a serving of game to get their interest. Once we are naked they usually tell me I look great naked. I was wearing a fitting shirt to the office the other day and caught a new QT mirin hard.
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>>40633833
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>>40633833
Fuark. Curious to see your gains. No homo
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>>40633851

Here ya go bromigo

>>40633850
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when will this fucking board realize lifting weights for a couple months barely makes you bigger than some 16 yr old on the highschool football team

fix your personality
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>>40633717
They've gotten more handsy.

I feel molested. It's great.
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>>40633850
Either youre not 6'2, or youre not 180. Especially not with that much bodyfat. Pic related actually is 6'2 180.
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>>40633883
I'd recommend getting a sales job to help with this.
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>>40633916
I'm not OP, I'm not 6'2 but I am 180
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>>40633863
Fuarrk. Looking good. Will look better once you cut. Mirin size though.
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>>40633916
what would you guess my BF% at though?
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>>40633916
Yeah, but those fighters almost never have any legs. It's hilarious.
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>>40633726

>making fun of someone who has been trying/dedicated for 3 years

I remember being 13
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>>40633943
Thanks bro, really ppreciate that. I'm cutting now, light cut, but I'm afraid because of my shitty chest insertions.
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>>40633916
Heres mine
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>>40633956
Dont be brah. If you have size no one is gonna notice. Id trade places with you in a heart beat in terms of body.
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>>40633947
different guy, 15ish i reckon.
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>>40633726
if he hasn't trained legs that's even quite big

pic is ocb at 6'2" 190 and i think he trained 2 years in this? with legs too
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>>40633969
My fear has vanished and I have you to thank for that.

>>40633987
thnx brah

On another topic, some weeks I do bro split, some weeks I do 5x5 with accessories. I usually figure which part of the razzle dazzle I'll be running by how active i'll be outside of the gym. If i'm going to be super active out of the gym i'll do bro-split, if I'm working a lot i'll do 5x5. LoL
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>>40633994
Is this sub 10 bf?
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>>40634053
I want to know this too
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>>40634053
around 10% on dot
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>>40634035
Glad i could help someone out.

And fuarkk i do 5x5 too but my hip abductors are weak as fuk. Gotta work on those to get a decent squat.
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>>40634059
Nah he's 1 bf :^]
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>>40634053
Most likely if not 10 on the dot
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>>40633851
>>40633863
Faggots
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>>40634095
K
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>>40634095
Stfu if you are not going to positively contribute.
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>>40633949
what you just said actually provides more evidence in support of the post that you replied to
just so you know
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>>40634196
That guy looks small af. What you think of my pic above?
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>>40633994
is this natty? o.O
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>>40634371
a good rule of thumb is that if they are bigger, more cut, look better than you than they are DEFINITELY JUICING
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>>40634371
Obviously no. Just look at his traps and delts
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>>40634384
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> how have girls' attitudes towards you changed since you got big?

I haven't really noticed and honestly don't give a shit. That's why they like me.
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>>40633717
You will get more attention from women above 27-28.
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>>40633916
and pic related is 6'2" 183

really stimulates those neurons, doesn't it?
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>>40634513
oh and that fighter you posted is 170, not 180 just for the record. And 5% higher bf than the guy i posted

really makes the noggin joggin that weight is a shit indicator of size without accompanied bf%
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>>40634492
Why above 27-28? I am 24, tryna get attention from women my age.
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>>40634513
>>40633994
none of these guys is 6'2"

225lb at actually 6'2 still looks dyel
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Their attitude has improved because my confidence has improved.
Getting Mired a lot from afar. Girls maintaining eye contact and smiling.
Getting numbers.
Ultimately the look helps, but the confidence is key.
Don't listen to any liftfag who tells you not to approach girls in the gym.
Fuck them, approach. If if you crash and burn keep doing it. Make acquaintances with the gym regulars. All the guys. Then you fill more comfortable because you have people saying hi and giving you nods. Ups your social value and makes you more approachable by girls.
Repeat-Do not listen to liftfags who tell you not to approach girls in gym.
Just make light combo for five seconds and repeat around. Best to talk over the shoulder and rock like your leaving any second. Makes them more comfortable with you cause your not creeping, your just making passing convo.
The point is being seen talking to grills. Other grills notice.
Don't make excuses for yourself. Excercise and develop that social muscle.

TFW you creampie the gym QT
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>>40633717
>go through 7th grade to highschool being slightly pudgy
>no fashion sense
>But I'm a pretty alright kid
>no boys talk to me
>focus on school
>graduate HS, go to uni
>get fit between the two
>meet a guy from HS, asks me out on a date
>ask him why he didn't ask me out before
>he has no answer
>walk away
If anything, getting /fit/ has made me cynical
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>>40635134
Good advice
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>>40634736
they're both 6'2" you fucking faggot. 225 at 6'2" only looks dyel when you are high bodyfat fucking retard, I cut down to 190 at 6'3" and have 18" arms lean while my bulk mode with ab outlines still showing is above 240 lbs reee
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>>40635294
no,

and no you don't have 18" arms, keep dreaming
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>>40635312
yes.

bodyweight doesn't mean shit unless you specify bf% you dyel faggot with sub 16" noodle arms. You look like shit at 225 because you took the SS bluepill and are stuck at 20%

zyzz was 6'1.5" and 220 pre death on dbol at 12-13%
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>>40635329
meant to say bloated on roids, not dbol

not even sure about his presumed stack anymore, i'm getting old


also robbie sardinia is a legit 6'2" and so was OCB tbhfamolam, OCB stopped posting after surpassing 195 or so after his subsequent bulk whereas rsardinia went into powerlifting after his 10 years as a fitnessmodel and is now around 205-210 with higher bf% at 6'2"

but hey, it's not like me being 6'3" would make me know more than you, mr. internet lifter that believes in inflated wrestling/mma weights
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>>40635134
Fuarrk thanks brah. Do you find girls approaching you more? What are your stats?
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if you want to pick up chicks the gym is the last fucking place to go, jesus christ.

coffee shop, library, book store, supermarket...

girls go to the gym for 2 reasons:
>turboslut cockteasers
>want to lose weight

If a girl shows interest in you at the gym it's because she wants to either steal your gains or get attention. Don't believe me? Ask for a bj in the change rooms and watch how quickly they say fuck off.

Now ask any dude miring you and he will always say yes. Because guys at the gym want to fuck, but women dont.
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>>40636069

i agree men always give head in the showers, its gym code, but you def can date girls from the gym

in my experience, it's g o o d

a dedicated gym routine says a lot about person, most turbosluts wouldn't fucking bother, and I don't mean "oh I do pussy extender for 20 mins and go home"

I mean chicks that show up and do a routine 5-6 day a week, that's discipline, that's motivation, that's goal setting.

all good shit you want in a partner, and the fact they have a similar hobby is great.

the same reason you say "book store" because of the implied intellectualism is also present in the gym in regards to life skills.

in my 8 years of gyming I've dated a solicitor (Aus speak for Attorney), a med student, and a couple teachers.

all higher quality than anything I've dragged out of a club, all with better long term prospects, and overall made me a better person.
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Dude I'm swolefat by /fit/ standards (20% bf) and I get plenty of attention from women about how big my shoulders and arms are. Most of these times I'm fully clothed with normal fitting clothes.

I like looking like I lift in regular attire.
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>met girl who was a 10/10 to me
>went on a few dates
>thought it was going great, apparently she didn't
>she ghosted me
>tried talking to her a few times with no response
>one year later
>much bigger, started powerlifting comps
>she likes every instagram pic I post
>has tried contacting me multiple times
>mfw I get to ghost her now
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>>40636279
You need to be huge to pick up sloots from the gym prob? Otherwise they will not notice you? Or am I wrong?
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>>40636381
Fuarrk man. Those feels. Hope to experience them one day and ghost chicks who ghosted me.
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>>40635974
Girls approach in their own way. They approach by kind of hovering around you. Give you a smile. A girls approach is loitering around you so YOU have the opportunity to break the ice.
Girls approach by eye contact and smiling.
Men still gotta do the work initially.
But if you spend a few weeks talking to all the bro's and ease in to small casual talk with the ladies they will start to come up to you for quick chats and spots because they see it is natural for people to talk to you.
Because your a social guy. Not just a creeper.
Dude, I was a literal autist. I had to study body language and how girls express attraction to do this. I grew up in a small town population fucking 90. No social skills.
Coach Corey Wayne on YouTube is awesome. Watch his video's.
I'm 5'10", 180lbs hovering around 10% BF.
Keep my hair cut neat. Keep groomed at all times. Girls like that.
Dudes strutting around the gym staring, afraid to crack a smile or any facial expression creeps girls out.
If a girl makes eye contact and smiles, that is your cue to say "hi". That's all you have to do. You can take it further, or just wait till next day to develop more convo.
Start small. It is literally practice bro.
Like playing hockey, math, drawing, it's all the same. You have to practice. Fail a lot and learn from your mistakes.
Ultimately you have to suck up your ego and accept rejection.
You dudes can do this. If I could you all can. Trust me.
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>>40634526
He rehydrates to somewhere in the mid 180s or low 190s most likely.

>implying they walk around or fight at the weight they cut to

they'd fucking die lmao
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>>40636069

Yeah no. Don't listen to liftfags like this. Guy talks about head from a man. Some mentor here.
DEYL?
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>>40636279
>>>40636279

This guy is someone to listen to. Approach girls in the gym. They like the attention. They may want your /fit/cock
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>>40636411

not really bro, the biggest guys in my gym probably get the least amount of attention from the gym chicks.

these are roiders obviously

but yeah if you're strong and fit looking of course it helps, it's an obvious ice breaker.

thinking back on it now most of the first interactions with girls at the gym are them coming up to me and saying some shit about "ohh so strong .. can you teach me?"

or some sorta idle bullshit chit chat about routines and can I help her, can I show her how to do a lift, or critique her form.

the solicitor for example is a pretty shy but pretty girl, she never really came out and spoke to me but would always idle at the machine next to me, half facing me while dawdling between sets, and that was no different than just bein at uni or a bar and bein like 'hey'.

these aren't 'gym sluts' though, I mean one probably technically was but she worked hard, trained hard, she was a 'fitness model' aka instagram heres me in my bikini with my ass in most the shot, wore skimpy shit

but she was nice and pretty normal.
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>>40635204
find a man
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>>40636427
Fuark man, I am semi-autist. I can small talk girls, but can't get dates and if I do I never get past 1 lol.

I wanna get hyuuge partly for myself and partly so that more girls approach me and I have more girls to parctice on. Plus the gym regulars would probably never talk to a dyel hungry skelly that goes regularly bit doesnt put on size.

Thanks brah you really helping a bro out. What you describe sounds like the dream!
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>>40636508

oh i would add i just remembered when i was late teens i was also guilty of picking up the receptionist, but I don't really recommend that one it does backfire
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For you autistic liftfags that have no game.
Put down the PS4 for the next year and read and watch this shit like your trap poon:
YouTube:
Keys to the VIP and VH1 Pick up artist.
(A lot is cheesy buy you just watch the guys and see what works and what doesn't - you will get the idea.)
Coach Corey Wayne.
I've met Corey Wayne and done a seminar with Cajun on pick up. Fucking life changing. Instead of spending $2000 on shores this year, give it to Derek Cajun for a weekend of lessons.
Forums:
sosuave.com
theattractionforums.com

(a lot of bullshit but the fuckin hints and tips are golden.)

Study this shit for a year and approach girls.

Lift hard, and get lean.

The Pussy will flow bro's.
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>>40636427
Thanks Anon, I'll look up that channel.
How did you start talking to random people? If there's an excuse for it I can talk with anyone no problem, but I don't know how to just go and talk to someone out of the blue (not just girls). From what you tell I'm sure you had the same problem so I'm interested in your story.
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>>40636527

No prob bro.

It's the Brotherhood of Iron.

Only a dick at the gym isn't going to talk to you or give advice if you ask.

All the big lifters I know love to give advice. C'mon bro, they have big ego's. They love to feel important.

I'm in the gym and I talk to fatties, old people, teenagers... everyone.

I used to be afraid to make eye contact with people.

You gotta say fuck it eventually and just take the risks.

Taking risks is what men do. It's what successful people do.

No risk no reward.

I don't want people to go through what I went through. I was suicidal in my 20's because I was a week feeble loser making excuses for myself.

Go out there and fucking get it starting right now.
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>>40636508
How big are you? I posted my pic above in response to mma fighter. Girls dont approach me in gym because I ain't big enough - not putting on size for some reason and can't get past 15" arms no matter how hard I work them.....so gotta change something in my workout program. Hopefully, I can become a beast that I picture in my head.
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>>40636552
I read 'how to be a 3% man by Corey Wayne' it was a good book and I want to try out some of his techniques but I am not getting dates :(

But ill look up the channel on youtube.

Also thanks for the links. How do I know whats bullshit and what isnt on the forums you listed?
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OK dudes I'm going going to try to answer your stuff I'm working on it.
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I'm not big.
5'10". About 180. Around 10% BF
I just keep well groomed and keep open body language.
Girls like lean guys more than huge guys. Huge guys though have a set of niche girls that they can pull.
You gotta work with what you got and develop it.
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>>40636630

i am 6 foot at 95kg which is like 210 or someshit in lb

been training almost a decade, played sports since I was like 6.

broad shouldered, natural v-taper in my chest back since I was a kid, these are just genetic blessings I take no credit for them. shoutout to my dad i guess.

usually it happens when I'm doing powercleans with press, putting up 2 and a bit plates does get attention.

or deadlifting 6 plates, which also does get attention.

but yo these girls didn't just see me and be like yo lemme get on that dick my man.

these were chicks i had seen like several times before, they had seen me talk to other people, seen I wasn't some fuckin nutcase, so they put out a feeler.

i know i keep referring to the solicitor but with her I had even heard her talking about me with cardio bunnies in the stretch section before.

what i'm sayin is you build a sort of reputation of knowing what you're doing, being cool n laid back and you get the gazelle breaking its own leg in front of the dozing lion because it wants to get eaten.

don't mistake 'approaching girls' at the gym as meaning PUA "ayo bitch u down to suck n fuck?"
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I don't get how alot of people in here claim to run around talking to people while at the gym, do you not listen to headphones while you lift? I always have mine in and find lifting to be much more enjoyable with music and don't want to sacrifice that for the chance just to boost the ego of some gym sloot that gets chatted up by 2-3 different dudes every time she is there lifting.
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>>40636654

What works for some guys doesn't work for others. Depends on personality and frame.
Prep or jock or bad boy.
Find out what works for you and run with it.
It's all practice.
What works on one girl won't work on another.
Girls are social masters because they've been practicing since birth.
They speak 8000 words a day and men speak average 2000.
Shoot the pucks, score the goals. Miss a few, oh well you tried.
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>>40636697
See this guy has got it.

Build yourself up as being social and approachable.

Not some bad ass motherfucker everyone is scared of.
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>>40633916

Yeah was gonna say. I'm 6'1 180 and I'm barely even skinny fat, mostly just skinny.
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>>40636704

bro, I train the exact same say, I've never kept a gym partner, always have headphones in when training.

But I still have about 15 acquaintances I say what's up to when I see them, make small talk to before training, etc.

There's being focused, and then there's being autistic and weird. Don't walk that line.
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>>40636578
Pls respond
I never see the specifics of this addressed when the advice of "talking to everybody" comes up.
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>>40636605
>All the big lifters I know love to give advice. C'mon bro, they have big ego's. They love to feel important.
Distillation of knowledge isn't ego. project harder.

t. big lifter
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>>40636381

Ayy I just fucked my ex from the age of 21 (I ghosted her for 5 years cause she was a bitch and dropped me for some drug dealer).

She said I was "amazing" and that I used to be a "shell of a man" lmao. Before I discovered redpill and lifting. Most wild sex ever. All the while I even kept her at arms length i.e. I was getting my dick sucked by other girls (jk just one over a 3 month period, also made out with a hottie from work) and she was fully dedicated to me. She ended up leaving because I wouldn't commit lul. How the fucking tables turn, bitch.

lol jesus, sounds even more epic when I write it out.
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>>40636763
I have no problem talking to people at school and have friends and stuff but damnit I think I am having a realization I may look like an autist at my gym because I pretty much keep to myself and just listen to music and only talk to those who talk to me unless I'm asking to work in with someone or asking how many sets/ if they are done with equipment. I catch women glancing at times but never feel like inflating their egos, plus I hate cold approaching. A-am I a gym autist?
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>>40636718

you have to be a human being

it's just when you become a supplicating faggot that you start losing
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>>40636578

Sorry almost forgot yours. It's the most important question.
Practicing small talk is easy when you commit to it.
I don't wear headphones. I don't care if they do. Most music is degenerate anyways.

Shit I do:

Two girls working out next to me. "you gonna be done with that bench soon?" "Yeah anon.". "Sweet! Hey are you girls sisters or something." "Blah blah blah".

Convo done for today and you succeeded in your practice mission. Dopamine rush and all girls in gym see your cool and other girls talking to you. I call these girls "double trouble". Girls always giggle to that shit.

Or say dude is using late pull down in front of you and you make eye contact. Ok, so say "Back day huh bro. Fuck nice lats."
He's gonna say thanks. It's not homo, it's the gym and people love compliments. So now that dude you can say hi to and head nod.
I know it sounds gay but you meet the dudes and then at least you feel more comfortable cause you know some people and it builds your (perceived) social value.

Or today. Girl at crossover machine. In the past I would silently hover waiting for it like an autistic web. Fuck that.
"Hey how many sets you got?"
"almost done anon"
"Sweet. Leg day huh?"
(she's got the cable on her ankle doing leg kick backs with those yoga pants up her crack just screaming lick my ads anon!)
She finishes up and starts to walk away
"all yours anon"
"Thanks, nice wheels by the way."
She pauses, figures our what I mean and looks back and giggles.
She's at least 15 years younger than me. Keeps mirin rest of day.
I'll approach with small talk again next time I see her.
Just talk about gym stuff. See, all the dudes and girls seen me talk to her, be bold, and make her giggle. I just got social points.

I just have to repeat you gotta practice like any skill and accept that you will have rejections.

It's a game.
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>>40633717
I went from 6'2" 180 to 211 when I was like 23 and girls liked it. "Have you seen anon? He got huge! "And rep went up all around. Ripple toe was right about what looks better in clothes. I'd go dancing and chicks loved me compared to some 5' 6" 135lb cuck "competition"
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>>40636832
Thanks man. Basically look for small excuses to talk and maybe give compliments, nice.
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>>40636796

Really liftfag?? Douche.

Arguing semantics? Either contribute something useful or keep looking like fag you are.

Love you.
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>>40633717
Skinny fat wow player to 210, 6"1

Girls are now interest, I am now not. Sport fucking is depressing imo, might just be catholic guilt. Looking for a wife but fuck me all the girls are whores.
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I stopped liking girls and switched to men.
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>>40633717
28 yoa, 5'9, 76kg, 1.5 years, @ 0.7/0.6/0.6/0.7 of 1/2/3/4, <6/10 women at coffee shops and classes try and chat me up more but they are more repulsive now since I've started browsing fit and admiring strong women
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>>40636808
Fuarkk. So jelly man, one day I will live that life too. Purposely hit on girls that rejected me (remember almost every single one - particularly the ones that were bad) and then gonna reject them in the same way.
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>>40636815

> never inflating their egos

is more an indication of your level of insecurity than anything to do with them bro.

that whole line of logic of "I won't even validate them by looking at them" comes from the idea of rejecting before being rejected, which is an extremely insecure mindset.

I dunno if you're the gym autist at yours, but these people are noticable

take yourself less seriously, relax, be human.
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>>40636889

Do people actually just walk up to girls at the gym and talk about random shit? They always seem focused on their training than wanting to be approached by guys.
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>>40636851

Yeah man. Small talk is situational.
The compliments are an example. Don't overdo it but you'll get the idea.
It's how you present yourself. Don't lean into girls, kind rock on your heels like your going to leave and say stuff over your shoulder. Its hard to explain but it makes it seem less creepy cause your body language says your leaving and not trying to monopolize her time
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>>40636889
Yea I think browsing the ch0n + a few bad relationships has ruined my psyche.
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>>40633994
This is desirable
homo or not
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>>40636832
Man thanks for that. You make it sound so easy. Gives me more confidence that I can do it too (used to be a smooth motherfucker in hs, because I got bullied but I had a silver tongue to get around it) but I have lost that smoothness now (all them rejections likely had something to do with it) so now I dislike talking to people I don't know very much. I guess I gotta work through that now. *sigh*
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>>40636885
Fucking hyuuge. Looking like a bear!
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>>40636902
>>>40636815
They will give you body language cues that tell you to approach.

They:
Look at you and make eye contact and smile.
Play with their hair, twirl in fingers when looking at you.
Hang around in your vicinity loitering glancing at you.
Giggle with their friends while glancing at you.
Brush by you and touch you. (If they rub a breast on you, you better go in for the kill because a breast rub is NEVER accidental.)

Shit like that.
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>>40636905

at least you can recognise it bro, you wanna move to fix that asap.

source: been there done that at 18-19.
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>>40636889
I dunno abt that man. Was doing OH Presses recently (light weight just started) and my hot friend approached me and said that I look so focused on my lifting unlike other faggots that come and try to hit on her and how she hates it. I was like 'meh, seems like girls dont like to get hit on in the gym'.
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>>40636925

Fuck yeah man you got this. Make fun out of crashing and burning like battle scars of honor.
Practice practice practice.

You only miss the shots you don't take.

Better to regret the things you have done, than the things you haven't.

Now go smash that Pusey!
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>>40636904
Man I can never remember to do those body cues, I remember afterwards. And half the time this dating stuff doesnt even make any sense to me (like wtf should I not show interest in a girl I am interested in?)
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>>40636963

Yeah I know it sounds counterintuitive but NEVER TAKE ADVICE ABOUT WOMEN FROM WOMEN.

I am a product of a single mother. I used to watch her cry from her asshole boyfriends.

"Anon, promise me you'll never treat women badly... blah blah blah."

She still went back to those douches.

Women don't have a clue what they want. They are not logical and there emotions can flip on a dime.
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>>40636796
Sorry you didn't have a father to teach you how real men behave and what motivates them to help others.
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>>40636977
No man you can show interest or you'll get friendzoned.
You just don't suck up and act like you NEED her and she's your only option.
They can smell desperation.
That's why you are to always go for multiple girls. Girls don't know what they want, but they want what other girls want. (You)
Be seen making girls laugh and smile and most of the work is already done
Because you are desired and wanted by other women. You have been pre-approved by other women without even fucking them
It's an illusion.
Women mainly care about how they are perceived. They are shallow.
They dress like sluts so you hit on them. They like it. Some like to bust your balls, they can be sadist. They dress like sluts and whore for attention to piss other chicks off.
Fuck em right in the Pussy
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>>40637035
I am your father anon.

Stay hungry.
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>>40636977
Shit I forgot the main point.
If you keep practicing you will remember. Because it will all become so natural and become obvious.
Exercise your social muscles to make them stronger.
Take risks, act like a dork sometimes.
Self deprecation when used sparingly and at the right time can be attractive too.
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>>40637051
Such a mindfuck. I'm literally tripping balls rn. Its exactly what I've noticed before but never put words to.

How am I supposed to date them though, if I cant show interest? I mean doesnt asking them out show you are interested? I am fucking confused lol
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I'm not big yet
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>>40633717
Getting big doesnt make people get girls.
Getting big gives guys the idea that they're more attractove, making them more confident and more likely to flirt with women.
By flirting with more women than they used to, they're bound to find a few easy chicks who would've fucked any other guy.

Its all an illusion.
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>>40637099
No I said you DO show interest. Don't overdo it. Basically ONE statement that makes it apparent you are into her.
That's it. After that you don't leech onto her. Just be cool.
Gotta remember this isn't cookie cutter shit.
On POF I've used "so when am I going to take you to pound town."
"I don't know, when's the train leaving anon?"

See you wouldn't normally go with that, but some (rare) chicks will dig it.

You just gotta act like its natural and learn to read the girl.

Which you will only do if you practice and FAIL.

Fuck dude I'm 40. I pull in 25 year olds. Cute 8+

Took a 18yr old virgin when I was 33 thanks to the game. Kept her for 5 years.

I won't bang chicks my age. They ignored me when I was in HS and 20's cause I was an autistic DEYL

Never focus on one girl.

I will tell you. If there are ten guys and ten chicks in a room, 8 girls are fucking two of the guys.
Chicks have herpes rates much higher than men. Why? They are all fucking the same guy.

Be that guy (without herpes) by taking risks, finding out what works and what doesn't. Read some shit on body language and have fun!
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>>40637148

Exactly. Get big or lean = more confidence.
Which means you will approach and approach and approach.
You take the shots and get the sloots.
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>>40637148
More Confidence would be a sweet thing to havw. When i see a 10/10 (my standard) I always think, 'why would she pick me - a hungry skelly - when she could pick one of the hotter, bigger guys and I don't approach'.
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It was fun anons.

I dig this shit because it affected me personally and made my life shit tier until I kicked myself in the balls and got out there.

Start right fucking now.

Don't go through life till your 30 like I did before I committed to not giving a fuck.

I wish /fit/ was here and I had this advice when I was 15.
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>>40636862
Enjoy the cycle.

P.S. Your mother is a whore.
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>>40637203

She will pick you when she see's you talking to all the other chicks making them laugh and giggle, flirting with you. She will want a piece of that anon. Don't focus on (her).
If you don't get (her) you will still get some of (Them).

Don't look or fap to trap porn. They aren't women, you only get horny for them because they are easy because they are seeking validation that they are women.

Just had to put that out there. lol
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>>40637174
Thanks brah, its good to hear from an older guy like you about his experiences and know that all is not lost and that if I work hard enough I can have it too. Its really important for me to hear this, don't have a father or an older brother to ask so gotta make do with what I can get. I just want you to know you are doing Gods work and helping out guys who are lost. That is really important and great, imo so I would like to thank you again.

Also, one final question, what do you say irl to tell a girl you are interested? What is the 'statement' you use? I just try to ask them for drinks. Also, its kinda hard for me not to 'latch onto' a girl, when positive responses from girls are so rare for me. Its like finsing a pool of fresh water in a desert and wanting to deink amfrom it as deeply as possible, because you don't know when you will find water next.
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>>40637223

Fuck anon, that's a good one. Saved that in my folder.

You mad bro?
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>>40637238
Eww trap porn. Dont watch that at all. Fucking gay as fuk in my opinion. My philosophy is, if it has a dick I don't watch it.
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>>40637238
I can make girls laugh and giggle. I sometimes have flashes of genius and say very smooth/funny things. The girls laugh, but wont go on dates with me. They see other girls laugh and still do the same.
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>>40637250
Ya it really sums up your life story in 5 panels.

You talk as if you are a man, yet you are just a boy pretending to be a man, compensating in ways a boy thinks a man would behave. You never stood a chance in this world.

If you have the means, contact your biological father.
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>>40637248

Ok I can't leave you stranded and thanks for your kind words.

I know those feels. Be patient, this takes time to develop. If you keep at it, even you fail you will succeed. Hey, you might not make it to Chad status but you will get more Pussy.

I like to prequalify women. That's why I like to approach and talk to so many. It's a numbers game. 10 - 20 girls, get one or two that are very responsive. I'll ignore the rest and focus on those two WHILE hitting on another 20.

20 - 1
40 - 2
60 - 3
80 - 4

Ok so now I got 4 girls mirin me. They like you an are creeping up your shit. Those other 76 Bitches are not curious and there attraction level for you just went up. So you score another 4 from that 76 and now you got 8.

See? I'm a fuckin nerdy autist. Too smart was my problem. Smart guys are always planning and anylyzing instead of being natural.

Develop your skills and accept failures and you will come out on top.

Weak cuck's will attack you because they are jeaulous of your bravery and balls to go after women. They will try to cut you down to stop your social gains just like a fat dude putting you down as a "raider" cause you lift.
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>>40637272

Haters gonna hate.

How's that nofap working out for you?

Gotta go weak boy. Weak people always trying to bring successful people down to there level.

I revel in your humiliation. You can't succeed cause your weak and attack people.

Go out and talk to girls anon. Don't be bitter.

You won't always be rejected if you just let go of that hatred inside of you.

Much love bro.
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>>40637290
Thanks brah again. I don't really qualify girls, all I know is if they aren't land whales, trashy or have obvious mental conditions and are pretty I like them (have no idea what I like beyond that lol).

But ill try talking to more girls as you suggest, my goal is to get them to chase me, I imagine itll be easier to set up dates. I read Corey Waynes book and he says that usually happens after 2 or 3 dates, so I gotta

1. Get a date (easier)
2. Get a second date and third (never happens for some reason)
3. Hide my autistic tendencies and lack of self confidence, while not fucking up.

Thsese are long term goals, so in the meantime, I will talk to many girls and try to develop female friends.
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>>40637323
Not a hater. I've given you mires in the past. We have had good conversation in the past, it seems you have forgotten who I am. When you were down I picked you up, when you were suffering I healed you.

My original point was that big lifters distill knowledge to save new lifters years of trial and error, not to feed their ego's. That's what motivates those men.

Sorry I'm not strong enough to keep my composition on a Jamaican Beef Patty Tutorial site about a rough childhood with no father figure. That comic really hit home.
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>>40637351

You got it. You're going to win. You got the idea. It takes time.

The more dates you get instead of focusing on one will help you because you wont feel so needy for one girl and it will come across to girls subconsciously. And you wont care if you dail because you have more anyways. Her loss
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>>40637362
Its all good bro its just bantz right.
And I know what you mean. That's why I'm trying to help guys out. Save em the pain and install belief in self and confidence.
Ego was being generalistic and just semantics.
I'm going to show that comic to my who're mom and dad if I ever find him.

Goonie goo goo
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>>40637443
If I actually hurt your feelings. Sorry.

The bit about finding your dad was dead serious though. That closure will remove a lifetime of insecurity whether you get the answers you want from him or not.
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>>40637417
Thanks brah for the encouragement. I haven't succeeded in getting more than one date with different girls simultaneously. But I have hatched a plan. I will strive to maximize my charm and I will hide neediness and try to maximize each opportunity.
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Ok I'm going to leave you guys with this once more:
Theattractionforums.com
Sosauve.com
Coach Corey Wayne and Derek Cajun
Keys to the VIP and VH1 pick up artist

It is aid if you spend 4 years studying something you will be a master. Start today and 2021 will be fucking golden.

Cardio time. I have coffee dates the next three days. I'm really only interested in one for more than a shag but they are all good practice and if I friend them they will have hot friends.

See how it works. If your not Chad you play numbers
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>>40637469
I thought you were trolling so I was just going along. Ha!
I do have a Dad. We are good now. He was in my life just not very often and didn't give me the skills. We are cool and have closure. He feels like shit and tries to make it up.
We all have our shit we gotta overcome.
we admit our faults and try to fix them.
Or we sit in the corner and shiver in fear.
Take care guys I gotta head er
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>>40634631
Girls in their early 20's will find you intimidating because you look nothing like the other guys and probably nothing like the guys they see with abs and stuff.
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>>40634513
My name is Oliver Queen.
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>>40633717
used to be skinny skelly

got more attention back then honestly. mightve just been cause i was younger idk
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>>40635347
btfo
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>>40636527
You keep starting with "fuark man", keep that up and your autism will spill into your gym life. Autismo.
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Guys gotta realize with lifting you will lose some girls.

But chicks that dig muscle dig muscle for the sake of muscle.

Put up a pic on POF.
"Hey anon, what's up?
"Checking this place out, what's good?"
"Want me to suck your cock"

She did. 2 days later. That was about 10 years ago when I knew shit. Having abs and pecks got me laid. She was into muscle.
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>>40636552
Someone should sticky this. Srsly.
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>>40633717
before lifting
>Ew, I wouldn't fuck you, fatty.
after lifting
>Ew, I wouldn't fuck you, I'm not into muscles.
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>>40636832
> most music is degenerate anyways
Wowee, you are so deep.
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>>40638268
I've got good Bantz eh liftbro.n

I was wondering when someone would pick that up.

Seriously though, why not listen to audio books, pick up, ANYTHING to improve yourself beyond

Homie homie bitch ass gonna ram a trap
Clap clap clap
You sat on my gate

So deep
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>>40633717
I live in Boston so most girls i week with like me a lot less now because they're all really loud feminists or closet feminists and I'm some sort of threat to them now even though half of them are lesbian magmagenders and shit. The other half have control issues because of Daddy and that one guy who made them feel useless and frail and only date down because of insecurity, which is hilarious because they're all 6's at best due to there for awful personalities
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>>40638627

This is a big issue. Men to man up and stop this shit.
Ignore them, ostracize them. If they get no attention they do not flourish.
Shame the white knights who enable them.
Never vote for a woman or help her advance her career.
Never hire a woman.
Refuse to marry without prenup.
Do not give attention to IG or Facebook whores
It's war bro's!
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>>40633717
I didn't care either way about them before and I sure don't care about them either way now. I understand that some guys lift for girls but unless you're trying to lose an absolutely grotesque body, it's probably not going to be worth the effort if that's your only goal. If you aren't lifting exclusively for yourself, your motivation will always be at least in part built on quicksand.
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>>40637268
You sure they ain't laughing at you spilling your daily autismo, anon?
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>>40638667

Yeah man if you focus on self improvement in all areas girls would come.

Status, frame, face, intelligence, social circle.. the better you can do in all areas of your life the better.
Girls sense this shit.
Once you build yourself up you won't care what grills think. And then you get more grills.
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>>40638200
Then move on. How is it that you assholes make going oneitis a regular occurance
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>>40636889
>>>40637035

Yeah I don't do that NEG shit. Act natural. Girls don't like being rejected either.
But fuck does it feel good to reject a chick just cause you're in a bad mood that day and you have other Pusey anyways
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>>40638607
Meh. I listen to edm and hit on the raver type bitches that frequent the treadmills. One day last month after lifting, all treadmills were taken save for this one that was between a 10/10 and 7/10, and no-one was taking it. Bunch of other cute sloots working out all around the gym, but everyone seemed to be avoiding this treadmill
> mfw i take the treadmill between these sloots
> slow jog at 5.5 mph for 10 minutes with headphones on
> accidentally hit an earphone off my ear with my arm while jogging, start thinking I'm going autismo maximo and slow down so i can fix earphones
> "oh dont you hate when those shitty earphones keep falling out?" Says 7/10
> 10/10 just giggles, 7/10 laughs more than i expected her to
> me : " this shit is why I hate usibg the treadmills"
> 10/10 "you are always lifting those heavy weights. I've seen you before "
> totally ignore the 7 and focus on the 10/10

Ended up smashing both over the course of 1 month. Ran into the 10 last week and she was mad that i "talked" to her friend after we fucked and said they don't come to the gym together anymore
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>>40634736
>225 lbs still looks at 6'2

Oh lord...should every 6+ft guy just become a total fat ass?
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I forgot to explain body rocking. This shit is great for day game. ie gym/malls.

Imagine yourself in a doorway. Go ahead stand in one. Rock to your left foot, then to your right. Transferring weight. When you leave the door you were intending to go right.
Theres a girl at your left. So you look over your shoulder to her and make any random comment.
Rock your foot to the right like your gonna leave.
She responds, you rock to the left, reply, rock right again like you're going to leave.
Basically your body language is non threatening (you are not facing her directly, and it looks like you are going to leave at any moment.)
If she doesn't reply you rock left and move away. If she replies you continue on.\
Walk away when the mood is good. You can reproach later and she will remember you as cool, and not drooling or akward.
Walking away in golden.
I'm tired I hope this makes sense liftbros
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>>40638816
Good job bro. Took advantage of them opening you.
If a chick has headphones I just point to my ears and they will take them out. Just make sure you have something situational and not ackward.
If they give you a dirty look or whatever, no loss, move along.
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>>40638902
I meant rock right and move away..
Body rocking portrays you aren't hitting on her so she doesn't feel threatens.
You are prequalifying her because her response will indicate if she wants to talk to you. You don't even get rejected.

And guys, don't worry about it being awkward in the gym if you fail. Turn around of clientele is enormous. They are here today and gone tomorrow.

Eye contact rules.

You make eye contact with girl and she looks up - not interested.
She looks to the side - she is unsure
She looks down (submitting to your raw manliness) - you have a good chance
She locks eyes and smiles big - you have a good chance. DON'T EVER LOOK DOWN when a woman looks at you. Don't submit to her or you've fucked your chances at that pusey
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>>40638915
Most times I'm there, I'm working hard. I only ever do something once I'm done with lifting, or if a hot chick is working out and initiates. Other times it's just the same fucking women from last week working out next to you the minute they see you, hoping this week you'll talk to them if they smile harder. It's heartbreakin lol cause femautismo is way worse than just regular autismo.
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>>40638951
Even more golden if she looks down, submitting and then looks up again into your eyes. She just told you she is interested..
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>>40638915
Tren took care of the dirty looks. Or maybe i just don't care anymore, also maybe related to tren. Most bitches at the gym are always smiling when our eyes meet
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>>40638952
Yeah I gotcha.
A lot of women kinda can sense when you're leaving and they will hang around the exit and stuff too putting themselves in a position so you can open them.
Even the fatties I'm nice to. Lead them on who cares. Bitches do that shit.
They'll make you protein donuts if you ask.
And they may have hot friends too
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>>40638966

I'm on test bro, 200 mg a week for life.. Bitches can smell that shit...
It's some pheromone shit, they can sense your raw masculinity. It ain't going to get you laid, but it has a small affect. Hormones and pheromones, it's a real thing you're talking about.
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>>40638976
I lead a lot of fatties on. Its fun as fuck. Also, my way of releasing the frustrations i had from being shot down a lot by similar bitches, back when i had lower standards and higher bf% kek. I let one fat bitch blow me after gym and did nothing for her. She was okay with it, surprisingly. I just remember the whold time thinking

> fuuuck hope you dont think im gonna eat you out or even kiss or fuck you

100% on the spot tho! Fatties have hot friends. Hot as fuck. Bitches keep other fat bitches around to boost their esteem, and you niggas gotta learn to capitalize on that!
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>>40638992
It's even more compounded on tren. I sweat all the time on tren. A coworker told me today that she loved the way my breath smells, like she said its sweet and natural or something and kept grabbing my arm. Pheromones bro. I have a friend that dabs a half ml of tren ace into his cologne and swears it works too, but i think he's just a moron and spouting broscience. I had my nursr manager excuse herself today and let another manager give me my yearly performance eval at work cause she said her bp was spiking and she started fanning her face with my eval halfway thru the shit. Never felt more alpha in my life!
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>>40638952
Mirin
What are the chances of a pajeet making it with girls?
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>>40637290
Fuuark brah you've got it all figured
In your experience do you think pajeets face any challenges?
t. Insecure pajeet
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>>40639305
I'm African bro. I'm making it. I see no reason why you can't. Just leave the sandals, Jeans shorts and smartphone at home next time you come to the gym.
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>>40639407
>Jeans shorts
You mean shorts made of denim?

My attire is a t-shirt with track pants and sometimes rarely shorts

What's your experience with different races of women?
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>>40634492
I'm around your age and I think how socially comfy/adept/aware you are matters most for girls from 18-25ish.
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>>40633717
a chick from another class smiled at me outside of the classroom.

it's something, I'm a dweeb.
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>>40633761
>Wasted alot of time not knowing what I was doing (and even now don't really know)
>3 years
thats whats funny...
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The most important thing that lifting had given me was confidence not just a muscular body. Coming out of my shell and comfort zone was the first essential step I needed to make when it came to succeeding with women.

I was a virgin when I first discovered /fit/ and ended up having sex for the first time when I was 20.

Now that I am 24 I have had sex with over 16+ girls. The key to success was not giving a fuck and not been afraid of failure. You really have to accept the fact that you will fuck up at first, but you will learn from your mistakes. And once you do learn things will gradually get way easier to the point where talking to girls and picking them up will feel so damn natural you'll be practically on auto pilot all the time.

You have to rediscover yourself, find out the kind of person you truly are deep down inside, and to never give up or get discouraged as cheesy as it sounds, and last but not least GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR MASCULINE SIDE. You are a man so you better start acting like one.
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>>40634371
Lmao no
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>>40633717
what type of camera is that?
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>>40638667
Yeah man, I started lifting for girls, I stay for the gains and to get thicc
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>>40637703
Why is that a bad thing though? By looking different dont you stand out?
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>>40637757
Used to be a miscer. I find saying this like 'fuark' or 'sloots' hilarious.
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>>40637934
Dont care if I lose whales. But getting dick sucked with no effort just by having muscles sounds like the dream. Did you end up smashing?
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>>40635204

london or not this is how it goes.

we all value ourselves mostly for what we think, rather than our actions.so although you have changed your body and now look good, you still value yourself like you did when you were chubby.The thing is, that doesn't apply to outsiders.Your body and how you present yourself is how they value you.So understandably, you were valued low when you were fat.But you're not valued higher because you look good.That is your answer to why the guy asked you out now and not in high school.And ask yourself, isn't that somewhat fair? would you ask someone out if they looked out of shape? It's easy to be cynical, and it hurts because this is you you're talking about.But understand the difference how outsiders vs yourself value yourself and you will find some peace.
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>>40641098
>you're NOT valued higher
now*
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>>40639422
I have only ever seen pajeets in jeans shorts, yes denim. It's either that or tracksuits lol. Tracksuits are okay i guess lol whatever man, do you. That's what making it is.

I sleep with mostly white women, but I've found puerto ricans and latina women to be the best fucks. Followed by asians and white women. I have yet to fuck a black woman, cause of preference not lack of opportunity. Most black women that turn me on are the really trashy ghetto city girls that will curse you out in public regardless of who you are, the really slutty thots. And african women. I've never had an African. Weirdly enough. But then again most you people on fit are american and virgins so i guess it's not that rare to not have slept with a woman of your own race. One day tho, just gotta find the right type.
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>>40636808
>Fucking an ex
>Alpha

Pick one
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>>40641156
This.
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>>40636887

your stats are really low for 1.5 years.just replying because i'm the same height as you.try a linear progression program
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Unfortunately I still match with ugly girls on tinder
>pic related
However I have noticed some looks.
>Also, should I smash girl in pic?
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>>40636808
Did you just suggest fucking a used up whore even a drug dealer is done with is epic?
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>>40641313
AYY
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>>40641313
Woah...
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>>40634513
This really activated my penile blood vessels
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>>40641313
if kenaua reves tapped it then so could you
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>>40639912
>GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR MASCULINE SIDE
What does this mean in more detail?
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>>40637223
This is literally me. Never knew my dad, didn't get his chad genes either.
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>>40633994
>pic is ocb at 6'2" 190
That's 190 at something like 5'8.
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>>40641313
that is literally sid the sloth
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>>40635312
Arnie topped out at about 17.5 I think, so this guy is probs right.

>>40635294
You have 18" fatceps. You can argue at me with words but it won't change your estatting. By all means post a pic and prove me wrong, I'd welcome it.
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>>40641508
it's 190 at 6'2", pic is him a bit later
>>40641550

>arnie topped out at about 17.5
lmao is this what manlets believe, just because you're a fun sized person doesn't mean 6'1" prime arnie had small arms too. If anything, that's his current arm size
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>>40641313
Mama loved the drink
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>>40641508
6'1" 190 who train-ed hard

wtf i hate low bodyfat conditioning leading to lighter comparative bodyweight now!
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>>40641660
6'4" 190 jon skywalker before trenning harder on the right, lads around 210-215 these days

really stimulates those neurons
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>>40641144
pic of your body?
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>>40641481
no homo
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>>40641313
4 miles away between her eyes
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>>40638716
Fuck off you shit skinned ape you are inferior
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>>40636718
>Build yourself up as being social and approachable.
Don't lift for girls, that's stupid
Change your entire personality, your character, and your very core self for them... That's alpha
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>>40639912
What do you mean by 'get in touch with your masculine side'? Isnt that what I am doing by lifting?
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>>40642266
Reject feminism and decadence. Become the barbarian savage, conqueror and alpha. the birthright of every male.
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>>40636552

YOU FUCKING SHILL.

Stop it dickhead your probably this guy anyways. Stop trying to sell shit
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>>40642447
I am not a fan of feminism and fight the monster when the situation allows.

What do you mean be decadence? Could one see decadence as the desire to get laid or sleeping with many chicks? That is luxury? Or not?
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>>40639039
I know bro, I've had the same experiences with Tren. I know the scent.
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>>40639912
Reprogram your brain.

Good advice.
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>>40640896
>>>40637934 (You)
I did, a few times. Then didn't touch her for about 4 years. Broke up with a bitch on Valentines and decided to ring her even though she had a Fiance. Ended up nailing her for a few years. I felt kinda bad I broke up the marriage before it happened, but I did save the guy from marrying a slut.
She was 12 years younger, father was a pastor. kek
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>>40642727
>>>40636552 (You)
Yeah, I know it comes across that way. Was afraid of that.
But, I'm just giving what helped me answer a lot of questions and gave me hints and advice.
Its the best set of stuff I know at the moment. The PUA community is all inter related.
There could be better sources, if anyone has them please put them in this thread.
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>>40642836
The word you are looking for is Hedonism
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>>40642447
Fuck yeah bro.
Reject them, they are toxic.
It's as simple as turning your back to them and refusing to speak with them. If we all don't acknowledge them, they have no voice.
Men need to grab their balls and reject this toxic ideology and shame those Bitches.
Never vote for one nor hire one.
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>>40636808

Redpoll is disgusting


Take the LMS pill and you will be woke
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>>40633775
this. Getting just looks hasnt gotten me laid yet, my inhabilities to talk are well trained still.
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>>40636808
I wouldn't label fucking an ex as 'epic'. Not even for revenge or something, that's even lower.
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>>40633717
>>40633850
>BMI of about 23
>about 15%BF
>FFMI of about 20
>3 years of training
Either you're wrong about your stats or have the smallest frame ever. What are your lifts like?
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>>40643582
Thats not my pic. My pic is in response to mma guy.

I have a small frame. Lifts are shit.
Squat 185 lbs
Deadlift (315 before but bad form so restarted) 235lbs
OHP 100lbs
Pullups (max) 15
Bench 185
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>>40637223
is this a quality comic from how to bomb the us govt?
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>>40643642
My mistake. Yeah, now it makes much more sense. Still: 85kg bench and squat after 3 years with that height. I'm guessing you fell for the bro-split meme hard. No offense but was about your size and strength after for 6 months from atrophied skinny-fat.
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>>40633717
>Has getting changed gotten you more attention or made it easier to get laid? Discuss!
Everything became worse. I could slay easily in otter mode. Getting bigger... no luck at all except with underage Turk boys, but I don't swing that way.

But then again, I'm a Yurofag, it may be different in America, where bigger is always better.
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>>40643858
I did my best to increase, but stalled on bench. I literally couldn't get above that no matter how hard I tried. As for squats, I didn't squat for most of that time because I was getting sharp knee pains in my right knee. I think it might be knee cabing, but I had no idea how to solve it. Been trying to work on my form to get rid of it. I was consistent at lifting too, 2-3x per week.

Tryna eat at 100-300 calorie surplus for a week now and lift 3-4x per week. Maybe I will see results, but im beginning to lose hope.
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I don't know, but when I have a girlfriend I get more attention from women. They really are evil.
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>>40642110
Hopefully this stays around until the New Year's comic.
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>be walking home from gym today
>there is a girl in her 20s or so walking like 30-40 meters ahead of me, think nothing of it
>we both turn on the same street, which is where I live
>she looks back
>sees me
>starts fucking running away

I'm not even sure I am the reason she ran but is this normal behavior, or do I actually look like a rapist? I want to emphasize that I was quite far away from her during this entire ordeal.
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>>40643953
Are you periodizing?
As I said, I'm about the same height and I hit the end of my linear gains at about 185lbs bench for reps. After that I did canditos intermediate phul and broke all my plateaus.
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>>40643582
What stats are you speaking of?
I'm 5'9 183
Bench 265
Squat 345
Diddly 445
OHP185x5
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>>40644053
Nope. I have no idea how to periodize. I decided to restart and do SL5×5 with accessories for arms and weak hips (apparently my right knee caves) and plateaued at squat week 7.

What do you weigh now? What are your numbers and how long did you take to get them?
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>>40633761
just 5x5 for 6 months and add in a core routine and some accessory work (incline BP, pullups, face pulls, and curls). instant win ez ez ez

Shit works so well
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>>40644029
Women are fucking weird.

>live in eastern europe
>know german
>get on bus, sit in seat opposite to two german tourists wearing ultra-short hot-pants and crop-tops.
>they talk about how the men are so fucking creepy and how they wish everyone would stop gawking at them - literally no one is looking at them
>start talking about me, I'm tired and looking out the window
>not like I haven't seen a bunch of pale, over-weight girls squeezed into clothing that's only appropriate for a beach before.
>they start talking about my gains
>as I'm getting off they say how I'm probably a fag for not staring at them like I was raised in rural afghanistan
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>>40633883
never, bait greentexts perpetuate the myth and we all buy in because false hope is all we want as betafags

On second thoguhts I think you're wrong. Good programming can make a big difference WHEN COMBINED with good diet and a good cut once you're at the right weight. So something like SL 5x5 for a year to build strength, switch to PPL for bodybuilding for a year, 3 month cut. EZ
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>>40633969
This is good advice.

>>40633956
You could always just add in some supplementary work for upper chest to maintain/build upper chest.
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>>40636697
holy, you dl 585 at 210? dafuq?
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>>40641508
I think you're just a fatass in denial
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>>40640736
yashica electro, it's a 35mm film rangefinder camera
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From being laughed at - - > To then flirting with me
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>>40644102
Yeah, I confused your pic for op. Shit didn't make any sense.

>>40644108
>Nope. I have no idea how to periodize.
There you go, my gym is 2/3 like that - guys get bigger as long as they're on linear gains. As soon as they hit that limit, they probably don't have a clue how to periodize and stay almost the same size.

>What do you weigh now? What are your numbers and how long did you take to get them?
Weigh about 95kg, 22cm wrists (so decent frame size,) slightly t.rex with 72" wingspan. Bench is 132,5kg for 1, squat is 160kg for 1. Took me about 2 years - fucked up a couple of times by cutting too aggressively (started out obese) and losing a lot of gains. SL>GSLP (tweaked to be early-intermediate)>PHUL>a bunch of bullshit>ULxPPLx. I probably have really shitty genetics - lots of slow-twitch fibers but no interest in endurance sports.
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>>40644161
Would you be willing to help with an example of the supplemental work? When I do work chest, I do more lifts on it than any other body parts, should I be doing chest on "non-chest" chest days? wat do?
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>>40638951
>DON'T EVER LOOK DOWN wehn a woman looks at you.

This shit is actually so hard for me without shifting to an interviewing mindset. Tbh I think there's a limit on this, you don't want to stare her down, I think closing your eyes to blink or laugh is fine.
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>>40634513
how many cycles bro?
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>>40636887
You're telling me you can ohp more than you can squat??

anon where are your legs D:
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>>40639422
>track pants

Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Wear shorts bud, and a shirt that's a decent fit (not too tight if you have a pouch tho).

t. fellow pajeet that's scored even with a pouch
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>>40639912
>Now that I am 24 I have had sex with over 16+ girls.
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>>40636832

Every time I see guys pulling this stupid shit, it's unbelievably transparent and cringeworthy - but I can't blame you because it works on basic bitches.

Go ahead and get pussy this way, but my pride just won't allow me to ramble on about banal shit to "boost my perceived social value". I find it embarrassing when I see people doing it.
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>>40641641
B O O B S

O

O

B

S
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>>40643165
lmao you redpilling PUA fag, you don't even have the self-confidence to get through life without shitting on other people to make yourself feel good? kys
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>>40644029
>do I actually look like a rapist?

post pick we'll tell you :)
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>>40636887
>0.7/0.6/0.6/0.7 of 1/2/3/4
Wait, do you mean:
>48kg OHP/44kg BP/44kg Squat/48kg DL
or
>42kg OHP/60kg BP/84kg Squat/126kg DL
I'm guessing the latter.
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>>40644053
>my linear gains
Were you doing SL5x5, or some other linear prog routine>
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>>40644150
Whoa! I've read threads in this sub saying SS and SL suck balls. But i wanna build a strength base and then get jacked.
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>>40636427
>tfw you will never be able to do this because youre always in a bad mood at thr gym cause its the one place you can use to channel your repressed rage
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>>40644482
As far as I remember; SL first, then switched to something based on GSLP:
>A: Bench, Cable row, Squat
>B: OHP, Lat-pulldown, Deads
>AxBxAxx, BxAxBxx
>did 3x5@80% + 2X8-10@70% on mondays and fridays
>4X8-10@65% on wednesdays
>progress every other session
Yeah, pretty shit. But I was stupid and the midweek intensity drop did get me over my late-novice slump.
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>>40641313
Fucking Brits, every time
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>>40637051
>Women mainly care about how they are perceived. They are shallow

Said a man on a board centered around upgrading male appearance.
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>>40636527
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP SAYING FUARK. NO ONE IS GOING TO SCOLD YOU FOR SWEARING ONLINE. FUCK, SHIT, DICK. ITS THAT EASY
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>>40644825
watch your profanity :)
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>>40644825
Fuark spunds hilarious though...also sloots guna sloot
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>>40642836
decadence is luxury, but not so much fucking girls. Its a softness, a comfort of civilization in good times. Men become weaker, narcissistic and indulge in more materialism and hedonism. Men also become more feminized in a decadent society.
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My wife walked up and sat in my lap when we first met because of my "big shoulders".
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/fit/, what is wrong here. Finally after like 8 years I found a girl I'm compatible with and who does anything I want. She's kind of a nympho who works out and has great ass and boobs. Then her face is like 8/10 and her hair is black. And who am I to complain? I'm out of shape and not a Chad myself. But today I saw a random blonde at the cinema. Her long thick blonde hair looked golden. And I've always had a thing for blondes, they seem pure, yeah well I got off from it.

I'd love to have a hot blonde girl. What do I tell myself to get over this lame criteria I have? My girl is 8/10 and has black hair while I want a 9/10 blonde with a similarly good body? Just "live with it bro". "Take what you get". I know I'm lame but my head is the way it is. I can live it it, it's just annoying that she isn't perfect. Coloring it blonde is not really an option, it grows out you know. Also I can't ask her that.
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>>40644825
Lurk moar, reddit.
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>>40643010

I mean, the only reason we have a rising number of late age virgins is because our brains have already literally been re-programmed by playing WoW 12 hours a day.

This isn't the default setting for humans, a 100 years ago if you wern't fuckin early you were dyin with no offspring.

So yeah, if it can be rewired into being passive asexual cuckolds in the span of 20 years .. why can't you go the other direction?

If you can teach men to kill I think you could probably teach men to be confident.
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>>40645962
>Cuck
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>>40646334
stay with the dark haired girl while fucking the blondie?
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>>40644570
delete this
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>>40644413
>>>40636832 (You)
No one is asking you for help. As matter of fact, you've not helped anybody have you.

Sorry if you got cucked by a guy like me.
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>>40644455
You mad sweetie pie?
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Just FYI:

99% of women don't care if you're muscular. It's a nice plus, but not significant in her evaluating you as a potential partner. You should be a bit toned and not fat. That's it. What more important is your face, your hair, how you dress and most importantly how you carry yourself in social situations. Your job/career situation is also important because it shows your discipline/ambitions.

Your muscles are an absolutely minor factor in the equation.
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>>40647953

Get a load of this guy
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Honestly, the mires.

Fact is, if you're not fit, when you see women checking you out they instantly look away.

When your fit, they tend to hold their gaze a bit longer and when you catch them looking they sometimes do a double take at your physique (At least from my experience).
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>>40648222

wow that's reading a lot into a basic thing bro lmao.

i also check women out on my commute, and if they look at me i look away.

it's to avoid confrontation, no not "i'll beat the fuck out of u faggot" more I don't want the interaction, I'm just looking at the goods.

women do the same thing.
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>>40633949
>6'3
>185lbs
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>>40648046
Bulllllshitttt

I have a dummy Tinder account with 1 picture and 1 picture only of an obviously juiced up guy who is taking a selfie. I get 10-15 matches per day and I would say 1 or 2 of those will msg me first

Pic related its the one im using
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>>40648685
All of these girls msg'd me firsr lol. Muscles dont matter is a lie and fuck you for spreading it
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>>40641313
Looks like my skyrim character
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>>40641313
you reckon you could hide from her like Riddick does in Pitch Black
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>>40646334
What is hair dye
>>
>>40649729
Holy fuck lol
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>>40641313
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>>40634053
Would agree. 10 % seems like a good estimate. He started roiding after about 1 year of training. God Tier body desu
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>>40636381
>ghosted
>ghost

Did you mean "ignored"? Sorry I don't speak Reddit.
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>>40644570
This
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>>40646334
Killing yourself is the best scenario here.
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>>40644825
FRig off fagit
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