>5+ years long lifters Is he right here, /fit/?

If he truly isn't on gear, he's pretty much stupid considering all of his opponents are on big dosages.

>>40584478
he is

>>40584497
So what are your lifting years?

>>40584478
jeff and piano are natty

>>40584516
jeff pls go

I'm 6'3 and a 6.5 year lifter. I can still put on decent size and thanks to my genetics I have some qualities people typically associate with roiding like capped shoulders.

Since he's like 5'9, and his life revolves entirely around fitness, I think it's within the realm of feasibility that he is natural, given he is optimizing everything from his routine to diet. If you see his non-shooped photos he looks a lot more realistic.

At any rate, there is no way he'd be on any significant dose of gear, and I don't think anyone would care if he's on anavar or some dumb shit.

I'd give the fag the benefit of the doubt since his body is all he cares about.

>lifting 24 hours a day 7 days a week for 8 years

I think he embellished a bit.

It's not completely unfeasible to think he MIGHT be natty, if he is he'd be in the 1% of genetics and truly take everything he does to the extreme lifting and diet wise, if he is on gear hes certainly not taking a stack anywhere near most fitness youtubers though given that he is just really lean and not tremendously huge.

>>40584540
>I've been lifting without sleeping or eating for 8 years straight

Huh

>24 hours a day 7 days a week
Wut

>>40584553
>>40584540
>not understanding lifting is a lifestyle

never going to make it

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>>40584516

He has convinced himself that Test (whatever flavor you choose, cyp, eth, ....) is *not* a steroid, but rather a "natural hormone".

Thus, he is "not" on 'roidz.

>see Ken Wheeler, Billy B. Warren, L. Priest, etc

>>40584566
Why didn't you answer? How many years in?

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>>40584465
10 year lifter here. No, he's roiding and bullshitting hard.

>>40584571
Have awful gains have you made then?

>>40584587
How*

He roids. Nothing crazy, but he has probably done a few cycles at the very least

>>40584571
>10 year lifter here

Got 15 inch arms already?

>>40584566
he's on tren tho

>>40584529
post capped shoulders.

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>>40584569

Close to 30 years in. I started in college to keep up with my dorm mate who played Lacrosse.

>SOON I'LL BE 50 YEARS OLD

>>40584805
Have you been learning those steroid names on /fraud/ again, Dylan?

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>>40584465

>size of Frank Zane when he won the Olympia
>not on roids

Pick one.

>>40584846
So your own natty condition must've been quote fucking shit

>>40584855
hue

>>40584465

What are his stats? We could always calculate his FFMI and see if he's theoretically natural.

>10% bodyfat and <25 FFMI = Regarded as natural. It's literally science. You are just projecting DYEL if you try to say otherwise.

Obviously we can never be sure whether this certain individual uses roids because there are worse looking people @ /fraud/ than 3 year natty lifters.

>>40584465
I don't know why he won't be straight forward instead of being a little bitch. People aren't going to forget that he talked about it himself. Also Jeff pls go.

>>40584465
I've been lifting straight for 13 years. He's on gear 100%. And I'm talking on multiple substances

>>40584898
Bc he would lost respect and advertising money.

>>40584465
6 year lifter here

he's full of shit

>>40584914
He's lost respect by obviously lying about it. You're probably right about ad money though, and I suspect that's more important to him than the opinion of an anonymous poster on a Ukrainian leatherworking enthusiasts forum.

>>40584465
Even if he is natty he's either lying or deluded if he thinks what he does will maximize health/longevity.

Obviously it's better than being a fat slovenly potato but it's sub-optimal for the aforementioned goals.

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>>40584878

I gained quite a bit naturally. My physique is small without overeating, a few beers here and there, and pushing at the gym.

When I was 20 I weighed 157 lbs. No chest, no legs, no back, etc....

I didn't "use" anything until 2005 when I tried SuperDrol for the first time. And that was only one bottle... but it worked.

Recently, I tired SARMS but it didn't do anything. Now, I am on DMZ and it kicks butt. Everything about it is good. At least for me.


>Stay cool.

>>40584892

But considering Jeff is an IFBB Pro it's pretty safe to say he is using steroids and if not I question his intelligence.

'literally' every single other IFBB pro is on gear, it would be downright retarded to put yourself purposefully on a unbeatable disadvantage if you want to make money out of the industry.