Joining up

>>40542921
Yep. Joining Marine Corps after college.

>>40542921
Yes.
I'm trading in my shitty liberal arts degree for an officer position.

Why don't you just go to school to be an engineer, get a contracting job get payed more and not get cuckd by a government that doesn't give a second thought to sending you to fight meaningless wars for globalism.

>>40542946
I'm happy I didn't bother going to Uni. I'm doing an Electrician course at the moment, and it's the best.

>>40542969
Because I didn't do that well in school, desu. Got a really bad form of dyslexia and never got support.

>>40542981
Well that if you went to the university dep for learning disabilities they're required to help you, as far as I know in America.
To be frank, if you like people telling you want to do for a living then go for it.
IMO it's not worth being treated like a number.

>>40542969
Not everyone wants to be an engineer. Fell for that meme since my parents pushed it so hard on me, realized I hated it and now I can't wait to get the hell out of college so I can join the military like I originally wanted to do.

>>40543020
>IMO it's not worth being treated like a number.
For a lot of people, it absolutely is. I find it really hard to care about myself but if others are counting on me, I consistently surprise myself with the amount of effort I give.

>>40542921
RE...MF

Joining the Royal Navy as a Communications Information System Specialist. Really only joining because I want to get out the house and stop feeling like a loser. 21 this year and I'm living like a 16 year old.

>>40543020
My issue is that I don't have the grades to get into a decent Uni. I'd have to go to some no name one, which is more of a stain on your CV than a positive. I'm currently doing an electrician course, anyway. And the Royal Marines have an electrician role.

German Police Force... Not Military, still need to be really fit

yep. joining australian infantry got enlistment date next month

>>40542921
Learn to love running so the pt test isn't a pain in the ass every year, got mine coming up and I'm not sure I can pass, been lifting but I haven't done much cardio

>>40543065
I know how you feel. I'm 18 and I still feel like I'm in Seniour school.

>>40543093
I know how you feel. For the RM you have to be able to run a mile and half in under 11 minutes.

>>40543105
Sorry, RE.

Yeah trying to become Police Officer in the Airforce

Active us army enlisted nurse, LPN. Love nursing, army is meh. Shouldve gotten a nursing degree and did ROTC.

As far as PT goes, they let us do it ok our own because lol shiftwork. Test is 2 mile run, but im getting into habit of running once or twice a week and between that and walking fucking miles on the ward every day im usually ok.

>>40543188
Lol don't do it bro, I heard quality of life sucks balls, go tacp or combat weather, the "police officers" are gate guards or they sit in their cars for 8-12 hours a day

I'm a mech in uasf

>>40542921
Yep. Got my ADF assessment day tomorrow. Still studying up.

>>40543220
Nah we have defence guards that do that and security guard roles that also do that. Police is more investigations.

>>40543235
good luck dude

what you going for

>>40543235
What job are you going for?

>>40543237
Oh you mean OSI bro, yeah I heard they're legit, basically they're NCIS for the af

>>40543262
Ausfag but this is job listing

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/airforce/jobs/AirForcePoliceAFPOL/

>>40543323
Ah shit my b, I thought you were american

>>40543020
that idea that you're treated like a number.. it's easy to see that way or say that from the outside, but when you get in and make the bonds there, it changes everything. there are few relationships as strong as those of enlisted men.

>>40542921
I'm in Canada and would like to join but I am on steroids and have no plans of ever coming off.

I can't swim either because raised by single motherlol.

If I was American I would seriously consider joining the Marine Corps.

>>40542973

>Electrician course
Is it hard? Do you have to study? Thinking of doing this

Yes. Trying to get an option 40 and pass Ranger selection.

>>40543244
>>40543248

Physiotherapy officer. 3 year IMPS, and I'd like to do infantry training if they let me.

>>40542946
I feel like this entire generation is going officer. Wtf

>>40542921
Good on you mate. What kinda training you been doing? Remember the assessment at the ATC is BARB test, team tasks, medical (all piss), then the military style lesson, 2 RMTs (representative military tasks) and the 1.5 miler in under your units time. Remember on the run its best effort and you will have done a warm up lap of at least .75 miles and you start the run almost right aftet. Its all pretty easy, just try your hardest, respect the staff, dont act like billy big bollocks, and obviously have fun.

>>40543589
We all got bamboozled by the university meme

>>40542921
Got it before joining just to get swole and it made it a million times easier. I was actually having fun at basic, while people with little fitness experience cried every week.

>>40543105
Man thats sooo easy. Canadian Combat Engineer here, nobody will even look at you if youre sub 10 minute on the 2.4 k/ 1.5 mile run and good is 8:45 and under

>>40543728
How did you get to that? A combination of long slow runs, fast paced short distance and sprints, or just doing the 1.5 loads of times and improving gradually over time?

>>40543767
A mix of all those things. PT is huge in the canadian forces. I just got posted to regiment after doing my trades course this year and I got put in with the combat divers who are just fuuuuucked, their PT is insane

>>40542944
Why aren't you already doing PLC juniors?

>>40544739
I'm a Sophomore right now, debating whether to apply to do PLC my Junior summer or just wait to do OCC after graduation.

Why are these threads always filled with college kids who want to be officers?

My guess is a lack of understanding as to the lifestyle of your average officer (I can only speak for the US military in this sense)

First of all they don't just let anybody become an officer. At least in the marines, OCS is 100x harder than enlisted boot camp, and unlike boot camp you can DOR. Also in most branches you don't get to choose your job as an officer. Think just because you have a college degree they're gonna let you fly or become an infantry officer? Fuck no.

I used to fuck this one ROTC girl who wanted to go EOD officer. I asked her why and she said it was because she wanted to disarm bombs. Again, fuck no. Officers aren't disarming bombs, they're not kicking in doors and going house to house, they're not trigger pullers. That's what enlisted guys do. I'm not saying there aren't some badass officers out there, but understand that a lot of the time officers are involved in administrative work and planning rather than actually doing the job. I always explain it by saying officers are coaching the team, enlisted guys are the players.

On top of all this, being an officer is committing to a military career, and for officers promotion is extremely competitive. Field grade officers have pretty much never made a mistake in their career, general officers basically walk on water. One of your PFCs loses a radio? A Lance Corporal crashes a Humvee? That's your ass.

Any questions feel free to ask. I'm obviously not an officer but I'm currently in the military.

>>40544882
>OCS is 100x harder than enlisted boot camp
In what way?

Any Aus Army guys here? thinking of enlisiting

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>>40542969
>globablism
how the hell is something as divisive as wars promoting globalism
also I wanna b a sick cunt pararescueman

>>40544897
More physically and mentally demanding. Longer hikes with a heavier load, harder PT and generally more competitive. Also theres a lot more to learn for a basically trained marine officer than enlisted marine. The marine corps doesn't need officers like they need enlisted guys, which is why OCS has the DOR option. Pretty sure they can drop you if you suck unlike boot camp where they'll just keep rolling you back into the next class.

Again I'm not an officer so I can't give you specifics but you can look up a lot of this stuff on YouTube.

>>40544882
In Australia it's a different story. There's an ADF sponsorship deal where people have a return of service obligation to the army, if the army pays for their degree. Most often, the army chooses to sponsor technical degrees that can't be trained within the officer colleges or schools of infantry, and the people who get those degrees tend to get cycled right into officer positions.

Then there are the direct entry schemes to fill those same skill shortages. People enlisting to be nurses, doctors, psychologists, technical tradesmen and specialists all end up being officers.

I'm guessing your average fitizen is in uni for something, has an idea of what degree or master's they want to get, and those who are interested in the army or armed forces have an idea of what they want to do. I don't know how applicable this is for the Americans on here, but it's the case in Australia.

>>40544882
How fast did it go from deciding to sign up and actually going to basic?
I'm going in for the initial medical exam in a few days and I'm wondering how much longer I'll have to wait

>>40544934
What about OCC? Do the same caveats apply?

>>40544974
I joines before the drawdown so it was pretty quick for me, like 3 months, but now they got guys waiting almost a year depending on the job they want.

>>40544989
Don't know what OCC is

>>40545010
>now they got guys waiting almost a year depending on the job they want.
Yeah, like me.
I started the process last May

>>40545010
10% of enlisted marine boots quit ,40% of OCS selected candidates quit,it's a lot easier to quit in OCS you can literally leave whenever you want to unlike boot. That's why OCS is more difficult because the fact that you can pack your things and go home very fast makes quitting so easy. If you want to become an officer your doing this for life, they expect you to join as an officer and retire one 20 something years later. Also they can drop anyone that doesn't show improvement and effort. Some applicants at my pool function already got dropped because they haven't been improving and turning in their shit.

>>40545013
Yeah that's how it is now. It'll probably change as trump is planning on adding 12000 marines to the corps in the coming years.

You waiting on a specific job or something?

>>40544918
Not the guy you're responding to but from my perspective, they take out the opposition who is opposing "globalism" and put certain people in power that will help promote globalism. Correct me if I'm wrong though...

>>40545073
So once you complete OCS you go to TBS right? If you complete that, how long do you have to stay? Isn't it just 3 years?

>>40545105
5years is the minimum contract,but I'm telling you now if you want to be an officer for 5 years you won't make it mentally.

>>40545105
Yeah once your commissioned a second lieutenant you wait a month or a couple till you get orders to go to TBS

whats the process for getting in infantry in aus army

>>40545122
Thanks this is helpful. Just to clarify, you mean that staying for just 5 years would be mentally tough since you go through all the hard training but don't get to reap any of the rewards?

>>40545147
Just apply. You'll submit an application, sit a YOU assessment (not a meme, it's actually called that) then sit an assessment day. Then you'll do a very basic fitness assessment, and you'll be enlisted.

Following that, you'll complete three months' training at Kapooka, then you'll do your finishing courses at Singleton if you're a rifleman, Puckapunyal if you're in armoured cav, or you'll go to Duntroon if you want to spruce up as an officer.

>>40545151
No, I'm saying that you really have to want it as a life long career. Sure some get by and decide to stop after 5 years but , it will be much more difficult to go through OCS, TBS knowing that this isn't what you want to do for the rest of your life.

>>40545172
Cool, thanks again.

>>40544882
>Officers aren't disarming bombs, they're not kicking in doors and going house to house, they're not trigger pullers.
Maybe not for shit like MPs, but def for shit infantry/grunt shit. Here's one that's unique to the core: Ground Intelligence Officer. Sounds white bread, but it's high speed

>>40545180
>unique to the core
Corps

Fuck

>>40545161
will look into it,cheers.Do you apply online or in office?

>>40545151
No it would be mentally tough because as a lieutenant half your job is going to be sucking the dick of senior officers so you can get promoted, which is necessary to ensure a bearable quality of life as a junior officer. If you're not planning to make a career out of that it's going to seem pointless.

Also where's the advantage in getting out as a lieutenant? Anybody who's been in the military knows lieutenants have a pretty easy job managing like 30 dudes who only listen to him because they have to. Getting out after five will make it seem like you were forced out because you couldn't hack it.

Awe fuck yeah OP, Sappers are the way to go, Brideing is basically a dead lift and shoulder press and who doesn't love blowing shit up.

Hope you can hold your 40 beers tho....

>>40545190
I applied in person back in 2010, and online last year in November. Same basic turnover, but if you want a quick response, do it ASAP. Also, word to the wise, you want to be as straight edge as you can be - I got drummed out of pilot selection because I made a joke about "going down" to a female officer.

Seven years later and I'm back, bb

>>40545180
The only time an infantry officer is going to pull triggers and go out on patrol is as a lieutenant and even then it's going to be more likely they are in the rear at the CP. They definitely won't be clearing any houses.

>ground intelligence officer

Don't fall for this trap either. My platoon commander (scout sniper platoon) is an 0203 and he would never be allowed to go outside the wire with is because he knows nothing about our job. He plays a very key role of course, but there's nothing high speed about what he does.

Counter intelligence, now that's some high speed shit.

>>40544906
what job?

>>40543323
enjoy having no friends. no one likes MPs

>>40542921
joining the commandos in the ADF

>>40545380
direct entry?

>>40545380
go infantry first. pretty much 0% chance of getting in through direct entry cos youre competing against guys already in the RAR

>>40545406
>>40545398
this

>>40545366
Already got friends m8

>>40542973
Have fun talking to retards the rest of your life. Also no career opportunities

Anyone here /para/

>>40543065
I feel you m80, we got this.

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>mfw other countries constantly recruit people
>mfw mine only recruits once or twice a year
>mfw my 1.5mile time still sucks dick

>>40547311
Enjoy struggling to walk at 35 with them styrofoam knees mate

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Going to boot camp in Pendleton in a month, is it true they starve you? I don't wanna become DYEL lads

Considering going into Air force (US), any tips/advice or shit I should expect?

>>40542921
my only reservation is

do people in the military get laid alot?

USAF security forces. Leaving September

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>>40543767
Google Stew Smith. He's a former SEAL who now makes books/ebooks on how to ace military fitness tests/selection events. His workouts are pretty insane and will definitely get you in the shape you need to be in. He also puts out a ton of free stuff, like a 6 week 1.5-2 mile training plan.

>>40548675
If your leaving in a month son you should prob know where your going, yes? Your not going to Camp Pendleton, your headed to MCRD San Diego. If your fat, yup your gonna starve if your too thin their gonna bulk you. Have fun pup

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>>40542921
im training so when our God Emperor Trump sends me to battle on a second round of crusades to retake the holy land ill be ready

>>40542921
Ooh sup future sapper, what trade you looking at? If I lived in a city with a reserves EOD unit I'd have joined up years ago.

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Any Army Air Corps here? Being in the joining process since August 2016, Medical staff requested 2 tests on my ear because i had surgery a while ago.

Fucking NHS finally got my appointment though after months of nagging them, hoping it'll be smooth process after this.

>>40548675
Nigger, Marine boot camp on the west coast takes place at MCRD San Diego, you only go to camp Pendleton for rifle qual, which is like 1-2 weeks.

>>40542921
Ex Royal Engineer here. You made the right choice OP, all other regiments are full of faggots. Do you know what your trade is going to be yet?

>>40549344
It'll be difficult to get laid at your duty station if you're only redeeming quality is that you're in the military (if that can even be considered a redeeming quality). It's easy for me being stationed in Hawaii where there's a constant influx of tourists and college students.

When you go home it's super easy to get laid. Literally like fishing with dynamite

>>40553450
> all other regiments are full of faggots

Tell us where the mean paras touched you

>>40553776
My bother in law is in 3 para so might be that

>>40547009

he will earn more money than you ith less stress and bullshit coworkers, cubicle monkey

>>40543065
>living like a 16 year old

what does this look like?

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>>40553900
Pic related

>>40542921

Very related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWN13pKVp9s

>>40543323

holy shit, aussies accept people until 52

Maybe I could make it, brahs (32yo)

>>40553825
My uncle was in the paras. He showed me a whole new meaning of 'rapid insertion'

US Air Force who volunteers with the nearby recruiter's office here to answer any of your questions.
I've also served with all other branches, so I might be able to help in that regard too.
There's a lot of misinformation about joining up, and I'd hate to see some /fit/izens end up in a job they hate because they didn't do their homework

>>40549320
Don't go open mechanical

>>40554216
>don't go open anything
fixed

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Going to Benning for spec ops candidate basic in a month, it's been really getting to me only doin muscle endurance and body weight training. But that's what they told me to do along with run, ruck, and practice land nav on my own.

I want to go to airborne school so bad though.

>>40554262
Well its much more about endurance than being able to lift X heavy item for a very short period of time. Once or if you get in, and can pass your PFTs, then you can start getting swole again. Be prepared to drag a barrel 12 miles, put it down, then move a jeep thats missing a wheel back 12 miles, all while on little food and no sleep.

Best of luck dude.

>>40553965
Ah.
counterstrike consumed my teenage years

>>40554375
You didnt see the shitting bin did you

>>40544772
I'm doing OCC right now. Join now. You will be able to work out with your peers and learn military shit from your OSO. Stop being a faggot and just go do it already

Plan on going either Army or Muhreens.
If Army hopefully SF

>>40542921
Yes. I meet all the physical requirements of the Marines except for the cardio. If I really push it, I can just make the minimum time and distance. I'm kind of stuck there right now though because I fucked up my back and even walking hurts so I don't really want to go for a run and rek my shit before it's done healing.

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27 year old here. Got my J ticket in welding but always really wanted to join the military or police. Can't decide on which one as both are really awesome choices. Canada btw.

>>40542921
Chris Kyle here, AMA

>>40556114
Yet another /fit/ thread of civilian SOF wannabes. Y'all have no idea what the fuck you're getting yourselves into. Spend some time as a basic grunt, then see if you're ready to move into the big leagues.

>>40558591
Yes sir mister green SEAL delta beret sir!

30 yo ukfag here, thinking of joining a reserves when I get fitter... good idea? Whats the best branch for reserves?

>>40559316
Depends what you want from it mate. If you want to run around in the woods covered in cam cream and shoot guns, go infantry. If you want to shoot big guns and like mechanics, go armoured. If you like mechanics and not running around, be a repair mechanic or engineer. If you like electronics, go REME or Signals. If you like driving or doing spreadsheets, go logistics. If you fancy being a spoop, go intelligence.

Find what you like and find what unit/regt does that, as opposed to finding a regt and trying to find what you like within that regt. There are a lot of different roles within each regt, i.e infantry have signallers, medics, armourers, armoured corps has drivers, gunners, loaders, commanders, just find what you like the sound of.
At the end of the day, if its something you dont have a passion or interest in, you wont want to go along every wednesday night and every other weekend.

>>40559346
I think I like the idea of infantry grunt work, what's the probability of actually being deployed?

Was a Combat Engineer in Singapore, currently premed planning on joining up as a surgeon in the US Army

>>40559369
Pretty low desu mate unless you volunteer. If enough of your unit volunteers youll get sent out as a platoon or whatever size of people volunteered and most likely attached to a regular infantry unit.
The infantry run time for entry at your assessment event is 12:45 for 1.5 miles, as well as 150m jerry can walk and 40kg sandbag lift. The jerry can is piss, anyone and everyone can do it. The sandbag lift is incremental, you start from 15kg and work your way up in 5kgs to 40kg, just requires some lower back and leg strength, nothing to it.
The run will be piss in 12:45, but when you get into Phase 1A theyll expect you to get it in under 10:30. Also remember you do a warm up lap, so ideally try and practice slow jogging a mile, then take a 10 second breather, then set out on 1.5 miles at best speed.

>>40544918
proxy wars maintain the status quo. They make sure certain groups are never able to prosper naturally for example

merchants dont want strong neighbours

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>>40559445
This tbqh. Look up the School of the Americas if youre interested, basically how the US controls politics and shit in south america to maintain US favour. Pic very much related.

>>40559172
Haha good one dude! Actually I'm a usmc 0317 but I went to schools with SEALs and other SOF guys so I actually rate to tell wannabes what's up.

>>40559431
I am sure I can do that strength stuff already, not sure about running but I will start doing some running and see if I can make it. thanks for the advice.

>>40544882

Can confirm this. Im an infantry Officer within ADF, specificaly a COY 2IC. Your job is realisticaly operations planning and admin. Plcomd were the best years of my life and i was lucky enough to deploy twice in that role as an LT and as a 1st Year CAPT.

Willing to answer any and all questions.

>>40559509
By all means, inform us as to whats up

>>40559545
First off, just make sure you can run 1.5 miles. Then, once you can do that, mix it up, say with a 3 mile slow run on monday, 1.5 mile run at best effort on wednesday, and doing HIIT/sprints on friday, and then maybe a loaded march on saturday, leaving sunday as a rest day. For the pack march start off light, like 10-15kg in a backpack, use cans of dog food as opposed to plates if possible because the plates sit lower in the bag, fuck up the displacement and also will scrape your lower back to fuck. Try finding a cross country route with some hills and try maintaining 4 miles an hour, that will put you in good stead. Do NOT try full on running with the pack, especially not on tarmac or concrete, your joints will hate you for it. At best do the old Brecon shuffle to make up time.
Also, on Phase 1A youll need to be able to do at least 50 push ups in 2 minutes and the same with sit ups. But worry about that once youve decided on your unit.

Youve still got a fair amount of time; get your application in, youll get a candidate support manager, and youll have to do an online medical form (DO NOT TICK ANY OF THE BOXES; the categories are so broad if you have slight astigmatism its the same as saying you have full blown glaucoma). You get a full medical during assessment anyway. Start getting in shape, look up your unit, learn a bit of their history, start getting mentally syched and build the mindset.

>>40558546
What's heaven like?

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I have been thinking about joining up after uni is over
Are the RAF regiment really that terrible?
Their standards look the same as an army regiment, if I wanted to do a TAC role would I join them?
Been running about 30 miles a week for a few months now so id probably fulfill the phys requirements for most units

I'll be transferring from the U.S. Air Force to the Army for special forces candidate in two years. I honestly just want to be a Ranger but that option isn't available to prior service, sucks.

>>40560568
>30 miles a week
>implying this is anything to shout about

I do 30 per week and a 10:30 1.5 mile and I'm fat as fuck

>>40561463
> running 30 miles a week
> 10:30 1.5 mile
> being fat as fuck

At least one of these things is a lie

>>40543074
I'm training for police academy in America. I can pass the physical test to get in, no problem.
I'm worried about the academy itself, however. The one I'm going to has a 25% failure rate from people who can't handle the physical training they do.
I'm running my ass off, and doing a shit load of bodyweight exercises. I've also been cutting since January. Down from 262 at 6'4" to 240. I hope it's enough that I don't wash out. The academy starts in five weeks, so I have a bit more time to drop some weight and improve my condition. Still, I'm nervous.

>>40562638
If it has a 75% pass rate and you can ace the entrance requirements then you'll be fine.

However 240 at 6'4 is very heavy if you want to excel at the kind of fitness the military/law enforcement agencies emphasize. Obviously 5 weeks isn't enough time to do it, but if I were you I'd cut down to at least 195 if you want to really be a PT stud.