Is military a factor in anyone's fitness journey here? Discuss

Yup. Its the only reason I run

yeah.

im still planning on either joining infantry and going through BRC primer there or taking a recon contract and risking it after finishing my degree.

im gonna need a perfect PFT at minimum so a lot more running and much less lifting is in my future.

No, the military is full of faggots who kill civilians

Enjoy dying for nothing

It was literally the only thing that kept me from being a worthless fat normie for the last 10 years. now that im out its time for penn station for lunch and chinese buffet for dinner

fml I just want to lift weights but have to do all this hiking and running in preparation for paratrooper training

Yes I am frequently running from the military.

>>40513067
>No, the military is full of faggots who kill civilians
>Enjoy dying for nothing
How is Commie Cali treating you, hippie?

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>>40512735
have to stay in shape for muh jerb and make fat bodies feel like shit

>>40512937
A mixture of calisthenics and lifting is key

>>40513200
Then why did you get out? You were half way there

>>40513219
Just having muscle mass isn't gonna do much for ya down range mane. Shoulda lived that comfy pog life

>>40512861
Same. I'm working on push-up and pull-ups, thinking about going to OCS in the winter

Yeah, I started running yesterday for the first time because I'm gonna get in shape to go into the military.

My reasons are combination of love for my country and president. Also nothing really going my way here in civilian life, no gf, no friends etc...

>>40513399
If you really just started running, don't over do it. Build up the distance and speed gradually or shin splints will be the end of you. Have good running shoes and form

>>40513399
>My reasons are combination of love for my country and president.
fag

>>40513363
yea my cousin works as a fireman in the (ch)air force

and I have to trot around for miles every day

fuck

I was overweight and lazy before being conscripted after high school. My year in the military taught me the importance of keeping a fit body, and showed me how fun it can be to push your limits.

Best tips to anyone planning on going army: run a lot. Running is the basis of all activity in the military.

>>40513399
>falling for the military meme
Enjoy your fucked up joints

>>40513850
worth fucked up joints though. the connections and opportunities are cray

>>40513067
>everyone in the military has a combat role
Fuck off

Not sure what countries you guys are from but I have never seen a military man look fit. They are usually DYEL or fat. If you're in a car club a lot of the younger guys with decent cars spent their enlistment bonus on the car, so you can see what typical army men look like. I also worked on a base for a while. This is in America BTW so your countries may vary.

Yeah, I'm hoping if I get fit enough, the state will let me murder people in other countries.

>>40514293
>helping soldiers efficiently kill people is better than murdering
You don't even get to take part in the fun

>>40512735
Bong Infantryman here

I'm DYEL as fuck but my fitness is very good considering.

Hill sprints and tabs make you fit as fuck but I'm not looking forward to the back surgery I'm inevitably going to need in 20 years.

FIBUA is the most physically intensive thing I've ever done and I did boxing for like 6 years in my youth

>>40513067
>t. a huge pussy

>>40512937
Make sure you can tread water for a good 50 minutes and ruck, a lot.

>>40513399
I used to tell myself that kind of crap but it was my only source of motivation and made me push my boundaries
Ended up going to college and ditching military
Not a single regret

>>40514357
statistically most military dudes you encounter will be pogs

>>40514177
Tbh there really are a lot of opportunities. But you'd better push yourself far.

The brothers you'll make especially in a combat or SOF unit (especially the latter) will be irreplaceable

>>40514445
>pogs

The game or People of Green Skin?

>>40514483
>brothers
don't be sexist it's 2017 ffs anon.

>>40514490
People other than grunts

>>40514363
Stop pretending to give a fuck about people you've never been within 1000 kilometers from.

>>40513225
Kek

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>tfw my country's military has too many volunteers
>tfw 2-3 year of waiting with no gurantee of getting in
>tfw if I want to join, I have to write a contract saying they can randomly draft me for the rest of my life with no prior warning
I wanted to join the military but this shit makes me feel like shit about it

>>40514785

What country anon-kun?

Dude, liftin became my life once I joined the military. Met some cool guys who like to lift and now I do it every day.

>>40514785
whaaaaaaaaaat

>>40514785
Turkey?

I can't think of any other country that has too many volunteers, I know being in the military is very respectable over there

>>40513326
What kind of routine would you suggest that incorporates both?

How do I get faster?

>>40514870
>Turkey
>Volunteers

A large part of their army is drafted

>>40515343
squats with full rom and pretty much any legs exercises

>>40514870
The draft in Denmark consist entirely of volunteers

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>>40512735
Was a big factor in my inability to preserve muscle mass. working 12+ hours a day, high stress, depression, drinking. I was good on neurological gains though.

Been out for a year, put on more lean muscle, lowered body fat, reduced stress, stopped drinking. Life is good.

military is my backup.

if my life goes down the shitter, first thing im doing is signing up.

>>40515992
Same here, and the time is almost upon me.

>dropped out of med school because I hate the medical industry
>decide to take up engineering instead
>can't get motivated
>failing 2 classes currently
>out of 4 I'm taking

Is it time?

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>>40512735
Right on the money. I plan on joining the Marine Corps after college, I'm getting in better and better shape after being a fat lazy piece of shit my whole life. Continuing the military tradition in my family.

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>>40516133
It might be.

Just don't think about OCS with green text like that, you won't pass the board.

>>40516189
Yeah, fuck that. I'm so tired of school. I talked to a recruiter last week, and he said that they don't accept people on anxiety medication. Maybe I should just end it all instead.

>>40514527
persons of friendship

>>40516216
>anxiety meds
MEPS only knows what you tell them. Think they're gonna spend money to ask your insurance your medical history?

Most professional soldiers in my country are fitter than average person in their age but far from being really fit. That is why I opted out from military to leo+degree from uni. Luckily our military makes a good use of its reserve to do peacekeeping. Sof-guys are machines though obviously.

>>40512937
i dropped out of BRPC for pneumonia but ill answer any questions you might have.

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One of the main reasons for lifting

Josh Bridges is cool, he was a Navy SEAL and one of the fittest guys out there. Sad he is a manlet, other than that he's the shit.

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>1/2/3.5/4.5
>get sent to buttfuck nowhere for 3 months
>no gym
>no where to even make a pullup bar
>come back to civilization
>lost all gains
>to depressed to start all over again.
I guess I'll just become a cardiofag because that's all the military pushes for anyway.

>>40516216
>not lying to MEPS at every turn
its like you dont want to enlist

>>40516650
What branch/job do you do? Out of curiosity

>>40516695
A few months away from graduating but going sigs afterwards.

>>40512735
Yes. Lost about 30 kg and got in shape. Started at 105 kg, dropped to 75 in 8 months. Military service is mandatory in my country, if the recruit fits the criteria (citizen, healthy, no criminal offences etc). After that I promised myself to never get out of shape again. That was 10 years ago and I have kept my promise. I run and lift weights regularly.

Gotta get /fit/ if I want SFAS and Q to work out

>>40512937
>taking a recon contract and risking it after finishing my degree
The water is what gets the most drops. If you fuck up they can put you anywhere, be careful. If you're getting your degree, maybe look into Ground Intelligence Officer

>>40512735
Yup. I only run, and do pull ups and dips because that's what I'm gonna have to do for fitness testing once I join the IDF.

>>40516216
since you mentioned med school...
why did you switch to engineering, and not gone to pharma school? you'd have the chemical background if you took all the premed courses in undergrad.

Served in the finnish military,now going for ffl

Civilian life sucks.

>>40516493
Not that other guy, but what caused the pneumonia? Is it easy to make friends, or does everybody hate everybody?

>>40516860
dude said he hated the medical industry

>>40516972
>civilian life sucks
Why?

>>40517047
not him, but for whatever reason i just dont think im built for it. civilian life feels wrong, i am discontented and unfulfilled.

>>40517047
Same reasons as this guy>>40517070

Also feel like im not build for it,miss my days in service.

>>40517128
i hesitate to say that its something wrong with us, as the same feeling is what pushes me to better myself in every facet of life. its like a fire in my bones that civilian life puts out.

>>40517070
>>40517128
>>40517151
Funny thing is, this is exactly why I've started talking to a recruiter. I feel restless as a civilian, but levelheaded and motivated when I think about enlisting.

>>40517246
embrace the fire buddy

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I start my BASIC course for the RAF in June.

I've been lifting for 2 years now and only now has it clocked on to me that gains/runs are fuck all for passing fitness tests.

Starting whole new routine where I do nothing but endurance training and anaerobic shit until I can move without it hurting me.

Anyone got any tips for bleep test?

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>>40517327
>RAF
>prepare

m8

>>40517470
I was never fat but I was an
>inactive
>kid
It took be a long time just to get good enough for an 11:11, 1.5 mile.
I don't have an excuse, I was just a poorly fit guy.

>>40512735
Yeah, I'm getting ready to go talk to officer recruiters. Thinking about OCS. Haven't decided which branch yet.
My problem is that I have some joint problems and osgood schlatter and it's painful as fuck.

Always played sports, always worked out, but at 24 It's incredible how much more I feel the aches as opposed to me 4 years ago

Always wanted to do operator shit but I'm worried my body just won't let me.
Seriously considering going on HGH to pass that plateau and grind past the pain

>>40517536
>operator shit
You at 80 will look back on you at 24 and laugh that you thought you knew what pain was

>>40517594
I've survived cancer, meningitis, a stabbing and a car crash. As well as Od'ing and also drowning. I know pain. It's consistent chronic pain that gets to me.

>>40516493
hey man, ive been reading shit about specifically recon for almost 2 years now, read hundreds of posts about people who have dropped/ in over their heads etc.

ive also heard a lot of people who made it through without any prior swim training, weren't the most fit but didnt give up.

since you dropped, can you tell me how prepared you thought you were, the point where you thought you were ready and if going for it was something you've wanted for a very long time?

also a specific run-down of your day to day BRPC routine would be helpful.

>>40516493
>>40517785
also if you "dropped" out because of pneumonia wouldnt you have the option of being placed into holding until the next group? unless it was a true DOR.

>>40517502
If you're 1.5 mile is 11 minutes, RAF training will be a breeze m80

>>40517639
They let drug addicts with cancer and meningitis become officers in the US?

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>>40517838
1.5 mile is easy mate.

What I am worried about is the fucking bleep test.
I need better endurance training shit.

I know "RAF is easy" is a meme, but I ain't letting shit go down to chance

>>40517070
>>40517128
the reserves is best of both world ya Full time cucks

>>40517903
Isn't the RAF bleep test needed only like 6 or something shit

I had to get 12 at PRMC

>>40517926
there aint no good for me in the civvie world is what im trying to convey. the reserves would just be the worst of one world and half the other

>>40517890
Considering I'm 24. Survived the illness as a child and experienced drugs in high school. I can't imagine why they wouldn't.

I have a degree. Good GPA. Athletic. Good leadership skills etc.

>>40517965
Might be different in the states, but where I live they wouldn't let you become an officer/soldier with that history.

>>40517937
9:10 for me.

>>40517937
Any tips bar "just fucking practice bleep test like haha nigga"

>>40517977
I'm not going to tell them I did drugs in highschool. lol why would I tell them that?

"Hey btw guys, when I was an adolescent and didn't know wtf I was doing wit my life I experimented with illegal substances"

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>>40517947
>can choose deployments and volunteer at other places doing cool shit
>drink with buddies after training
> no one has a giant stick up their ass
>double dipping and job connections
nigga you fucking up

Going on third year of service now
I don't even lift anymore because after 3 weeks on field rats all gains are fucking gone anyways
My knees are slowly crumbling to dust and my back has compressed at least an inch in the last year.
On the bright side tho I can fit like 12 pineapples up my ass at once now.

>>40517983
Rockape?

>>40518000
Run up a hill

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>>40513067
naisu beito

>>40518002
Surely it's on your medical record?

>>40513399
>My reasons are combination of love for my country and president.

Lol, when you actually go AD and realize what a load of bull shit that is, you are going to have a mental breakdown. Grow the fuck up.

>>40514968
No idea yet. I'm a boot pog for right now, I'll find out soon

>>40515954
weak slav chin

>>40514439
Am in college. Think it's gay. Wanna join militree.

>>40518037
>Rockape?
Fuck no, weapons Tech.
I hope you like having no breach brush lad, because they're all mine.

>>40518092
>boot pog
Fucking kill yourself

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>>40518106
I have my own kit :)

>>40518105
finish college first and become an officer if you want to go in. do not go enlisted if you have the choice.

Not saying enlisted is all bad, but you are in a much better position while you're in and once you get out as an officer. Do not fuck that up.

>>40518000
Interval training. Seriously underrated.

>>40518069
Probably isn't
>military spending money to look at medical record of every candidate
haha lmao

>>40518137
>paperwork
>desk sitting
Why do you think I hate college?

>>40518163
Ah

In the UK you have to have your GP (local doctor) send them your life medical history

If there's anything like depression or asthma then you're not getting in

>>40518002
There's no reason not to tell them. They're not going to tell you that you can't go in because of that shit. Your last sentence explains it. Nobody, especially a recruiter gives a shit. Just don't come to basic and get kicked out after the first drug test because you thought the weed would be out of your system by week 2. There's one in every group.

>>40512735
Never ran before joining Army, only weighed 132lb. but couldn't run a mile. By the end of basic I was a gazelle as our drill sergeant called good runners.

>>40518190
It's the same thing in the states, that other guy is just retarded. A doctor skims through it at a processing station during your initial physical screening. This is done well before you're sent to boot camp.

>>40517937
What was your exercise regime like when preparing for PRMC?

>>40512735
No.

Next question.

>>40518256
400m sprints x 8 and 5k's every weekday

10k on sundays

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>>40518180
That's not all that officers do unless you go for a desk jockey billet.
Fucking go research the careers in whatever branch you want to go into before you decide to drop out of college and be a grunt in the US military. Has anyone in your family been in? You sound like you have no idea what it's like.

Love the army. Fucked up hips. Fucked up shoulder. Can't keep a good training schedule. Run 15mi a week. Most soldiers are skinny or broken and fat. Only SF and staff officers have time to workout regularly.

>>40512735
Used to be. I do it now because it helps me improve my self-confidence.

>>40518278
Do you use your fitness outside of the gym at all?

>>40518279
Any weight lifting or just calisthenics? I'm only 11 stone currently and a little paranoid about being on the lighter side.

>>40513399
"oh please Mr. Trump fuck me in the ass!". I understand the whole great again deal, but that guy is irresponsible af wih the lives of servicemen. Not even a month into his presidency he lost a SEAL.

>>40518132
Not for long, RLC looking ass mother fucker.

>>40518159
I've been doing 60/120s for a long time, that good right?

>>40518302
same.

>>40518279
60/120 or 1/4th mile sprints better?

>>40518204
I'm taking my time. I last smoked about 2 weeks ago and don't plan on going to talk to recruiters until I test myself and come out clean. Besides I'm not where I want to be physically. I can pass the PT but I want to excel at it.

>>40518243
Why would a doctor not let me because I survived cancer and meningitis?
They were illnesses. I overcame them.
I'm 6'3, 205 lbs, and in really good shape. I don't see how any of those things would cause a doctor at MEPS to go "Nah, you're way too good at surviving shit"

>>40513399
>love for my country and president
This is a bad reason.

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>>40518309
Just bodyweight, some weighted tabs

Stay at 11 stone

>>40518345

but my uncle gave it to me

Tbh RLC are probably fitter than RAF crabs

>>40518368
I did 400m, with 2 minutes jogging as breaks

>>40518375
waiting on the piss test is a good idea, but don't wait too long for PT. You will get plenty of practice at it while you're in boot camp. I got in basic shape before I got in, and by the time I was finished with boot camp, I was at the upper levels of the fitness tiers. You're going to eat a ton and work out a ton.

>Why would a doctor not let me because I survived cancer and meningitis?
Do either of those have a chance of coming back? That's the only reason I can think of.

>>40518375
cancer never really goes though

Fuck NO, at least as long as German army is concerned (yeah it's a joke but still). I was conscripted 10 years ago, and in the 3 months of basic training, I gained from 74 to 80kg (at 1.90m), and mostly not muscle
I'm someone who never eats breakfast and have been doing (unintended) IF pretty much since I'm 10 or so (first meal of the day usually 4pm), but during conscription we had forced breakfast at 5:30, lunch at 11:30, dinner at 16:30 and finally in the evening out of boredom we'd hang out in the barrack pub, having another 1-2 beers and often a schnitzel or bratwurst with fries - that diet was just a recipe for disaster.
Nowadays I have a TDEE of 2950 (calculated from tracking and weight changes), but during army time I was likely even more active and younger, so let's say it was 3200 back then. So judging from my weight gain back then, I must've been on an average intake of 3800 at the time, yuck

>>40518298
Spoken like an actual grunt

>>40518430
I mean, they are diseases. Anyone can get them. Cancer and meningitis can always strike back but they are not chronic illnesses. I'm more likely to get flak about my Osgood Schlatter than those just from a purely logical point of view. Osgood affects my knee, it affects my ability to do squats or jump alot. I've learned over the years to overcome the pain and just plow through shit and I did a 45 lbs ruck march for 11.3 miles in under 4 hours 2 weeks ago. the pain is consistent. Surprisingly the pain is worse when I'm just chilling.

>>40518461
are you a walking corpse

>>40518416
Cheers for answering my questions, it's much appreciated.

>>40518481
lol, more of a mule. I'm ok at the basic stuff, pushups, situps, pullups etc. I would pass with an excellent or upper levels of good on the PT. But tell me to start marching and I just go. Spent my entire childhood going across my city for hours on end on foot, skateboard, bike. I would do at least 40+ miles a day just moving around for like 8 years of my life.

>>40518461
Ok, but from the military's standpoint, if those diseases do come back, then you have to be med boarded out. It would be a waste of their training dollars and med services.

>>40518530
Well meningitis can't come back. I would literally have to catch it again.

Cancer is a little trickier, but considering I had it as an infant and I'm 24 now, and my doctor has screened for it during every physical and say's I'm incredibly healthy I don't see it coming back any time soon.
I smoked cigs for 8 years as well and my doctor said my cardio ability was outstanding.

Soon to be leaving for Navy basic training here. How are the gyms and such at the boats/stations? Are there gyms at basic? What is the food situation like? Can i freely bulk and cut reguraly? Do i need to start looking into serious bodyweight training?

>going infantry during peacetime

Don't do it boys, trust me.

>>40518543
yeah, i see what you're saying. With the history though, they will look at it and say, it could never come back, or it could randomly come back in a year.

Have you already been rejected for it?

>>40518591
i dont trust you, why shouldnt i

>>40518604
Nothing to do but bull shit busy work and train. It's like being in cubicle pergatory.

>>40518513
I wouldn't go RM desu m8, shitter pay for more work

Get a tech trade in the army or navy

>>40518618
cool, thanks

>>40518593
Haven't gone and spoken to recruiters yet. I'm the guy with weed in his system who's waiting. Also I Haven't decided if I want to do Navy or Army yet. Definitely trying to go officer. I plan on setting up an appointment with my doctor in about 2-3 weeks and telling him what my plans are. But I know a doctor who did MEPS ages ago and I told him my medical history and said I should be good.

Anyone can get cancer at pretty much anytime. So given that basic fact it wouldn't make sense for them to just say nah.
Yes, I do have a slightly higher probability of developing it again. But highly unlikely.

>>40513368
If you don't have your packet by now you won't make it by next winter.

>>40518651
Oh yeah, aside from not having anything meaningful to do, you are being hounded from the top down on not finding anything meaningful to do. Every new leadership that comes in tries to implement a "solution" (read: opr bullet) for the problem, but it inevitably just turns into more bull shit busy work and training.

>>40518653
Oh, the way you were talking it seemed like you were wondering why they had already rejected you.

Yeah, good luck. Navy always seemed a lot more chill. Air Force treats you the best, so that would be my first choice if I were you. Try to get on a pilot billet in either one though. Hell, get one even if you go army. Aviation lives the good life.

>>40518342
And he called Mattis a "soldier." Fucking loser.

>>40518728
My main concern with airforce is I don't want to be a desk jockey. It seems to be the consistent story about airforce unless you are flying planes.
I'm too old for the Air Force Academy (Although I certainly think I could pass with flying colors). I went to a college prep highschool, have been working since I was 9, did great in school, etc. I would fucking love to fly jet fighters but as far as I know I no longer qualify just because of age.

>>40518547
I'm training to be an officer in the navy, and from what i've been told there are full gyms on every ship, they're usually full of marines, the food is literally just ok, and i don't know what the doctors are like testing you for substances.

>>40518771
infantry here

The army, especially combat trades, are huge gains goblins. It's going to fuck up your knees and back pretty fast and you'll spend a lot of time in the field eating shitty rations with no gym access.

Nothing wrong with being a desk jockey in the air force. Yeah you might get chirped by the grunts but its better longterm.

>>40518284
I did research. Officer shit is likely not for me. I'm not going to drop out to be an 03xx or 11B either. From my previous post, I understand that you think I don't know much about my options, but I do.

>>40518625
Right now pay isn't to much of a concern for me, i'm just not content unless i'm constantly being challenged. That may all change though, so i'll bear that advice in mind.

Am a navy Nuke AMA.

>base gyms aren't bad, free YMCA, local gyms usually give discounts

>gyms on carriers are awesome
>gyms on subs have free weights but you can't slam weights due to Russians
>boot camp is easy and the PT is a joke
>Don't become a Nuke you'll hate your life and the money isn't worth it

>>40518784
It's the opposite. Gym is full of squids and Marines are doing bodyweight exercise in the P-ways

>>40518908
Training pipeline or are you at your 1st/2nd/whichever duty station?

got enlistment date next month and going infantry.

FUCK POGS

>>40518838
Well right now I'm leaning more towards Navy. I don't mind doing some paperwork but I don't want that to be the extent of my service. I've always wanted to do Operator shit. Don't know if I can physically because of my joint problems, but I think I'm capable of doing it mentally.

>>40518935
Poolee Dan, is that you? Is this me?

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>>40517011
swimming frequently i suppose. i was in a holding platoon for several weeks so i swam 6x a week, got it the day we had a pft. i didnt DOR so im allowed to go back
>>40517785
under normal circumstances yes you could be recycled to next class. i had pneumonia symptoms happening prior to a pickup so i bombed my pft for a pickup, and my last one i hurt my hip. if you get pneumonia while actually in the course then youll be fine. they were just thrashing the class i was in because they wanted to i guess, out of 70 peopl eabout 12 graduated. i was prepared mostly on land and swimming/finning, what gets nearly everyone is treading water without your hands in cammies. go to a deep ass pool, take your hands out of the water and either frog kick or look up eggbeater kick. if you can join a water polo team that will help tremendously.

as far as your average day goes, friday is always a ruck run,weekends off, monday through thursday is land pt with a sandbag, or a "pigegg" is what they called it with basic exercises like squats, lunges, thrusters etc. then usually a run of some sort or maybe sprints. you do this until afternoon chow, then about an hour of rest after lunch. then the pool portion starts, with a swim to start, we used combat swim stroke, breast stroke, freestyle, and did intervals with butterfly plus finning, then the treading without hands aka "the deep end card". tread with a brick in your hand and find out how to bottom sample, the pool is 16 and a half feet deep. im eligible to go back but honestly i might just go MARSOC at this point since they do more direct action work plus reconnaisance missions

>>40518934
1st duty station

>>40518125
I'll go grunt next enlistment

I ship out to MCRD San Diego next Monday for USMC BT. I'm sacred guys.

>>40519143
*scared

>>40512735
Currently in the AF. I started getting fit before than but it's literally impossible to be obese and in the Air Force.

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>>40519253

>>40512735
I'm in the air force, personally I'm jacked AF but the majority of airforce members are fat donut swilling mother fuckers

So which is better though? A enlisted or officer? It feels like there will be more fun being an enlisted (getting into SF or being trained as sniper sounds fun).

>>40519143
bullshit, b/c you called it BT. It's "boot camp."

>>40519352
Well, there are no officer snipers

>>40518935
>talking shit
>not even in the military yet
I would call you a boot, but you're worse than that.
You're a bitch.

>>40519143
Be prepared to lose all your gains.
Eat as many peanut butter packs in the chow hall as you can.

>>40519352
Hey i'm a First Lieutenant in the Army.
Officers: Make plans, draw up orders, make powerpoint slides and brief superiors, ultimately make the big decisions
Enlisted: kick ass, lead troops, carry out Officers' orders, pull triggers
Make your decision on that basis.

>>40519422
>POG calling people bitches

AAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

youre a pussy faggot

>>40513247
CA has very respectable recruitment numbers.

>>40519492
not him but if youre not in the military yet then you dont even rate that, youre gonna get your ass handed to you by one of the admin guys who does nothing but lift in his spare time if you just go around calling people faggots

>>40519489
what do you think of going mustang? marinefag here i hope my crayon eating doesnt distract you too much

>>40519489

What about going enlisted first and then officer? Both appeals to be alot.

>>40519489
Ever leave the wire? (Assuming you've been deployed). I'm prepping for OCS but I certainly would want to kick some ass and take some names too.
Is it frowned upon? Is it straight up restricted?

>>40519595
it may be different for each branch but i know for marines they basically dont go out ever

>>40519588
That will take a ton of work. You'll be competing against people with 10-12 years in and stellar OCS packages.

>>40519540
All of the hispanics

No fuck that military is reserved for dude bro retards and arrested development adults that still suffer from peer pressure.

>>40519013
appreciate it

>>40519710
>civilian life
>not dude pro retards and people suffering from peer pressure

Jesus

>>40519749
whatever you say glorified welfare queen

>>40512937
Over 50% of contract recon wannabes fail BRC. A 300 PFT alone isn't gonna cut it. Recon guys I know can swim like fish so you better be able to swim at least 1000 meters at a time without stopping.

I would highly, highly advise you against picking up a recon contract. You don't even know if you can hack it in the basic infantry yet. Go basic 03 then lat move if you think you're good enough, you'll have a much better chance of passing

>source: marine 0317

>>40519352
This guy pretty much sums it up for you
>>40519383

Officers aren't kicking in doors and pulling triggers my dude. That's what enlisted guys do. Officers arent better than enlisted or vice versa, its two totally different jobs. Think of it like a sports team; officers are the coaches and enlisted are the players.

I know some badass officers but their job isn't to be badass, it's to write up orders in the COC

>>40519778
Not even in the service faggot. Have worked everything from shitty restaurant gigs to sales, to contract negotiation and everything in between.

Civilian life id whack as fuck. A bunch of children who think they have life figured out even well into their adult life who do some bullshit useless job and then get fucked up on the weekends to cope with how miserable their existence is.
I'm glad I'm leaving it behind.

>>40520119
If you go to SOI West you'll have a chance to go recon if you volunteer for it during ITB. If you fail BRC you'll still have an 03 contract and still be a grunt.

If you go in with a recon contract right off the bat and fail BRC there's an extremely high likelihood you'll be redesignated as a POG.

This anon is correct BRC (well mostly the BRC prep course) has an extremely high attrition rate.

Work on your PFT but most importantly work on your swimming. Most in shape 18-20 year olds have the legs to run a sub 20min 3 mile but you need to be a strong swimmer to pass BRC.

>>40520163
If you're a Company Grade 0302 and you get deployed to an AO that is hot you're going to have a chance to pull triggers/coordinate CAS/ blow people to pieces (as long as you aren't a piece of shit who is scared to leave the PB, which is your choice).

Yeah got a little overweight while in the guard. Losing weight to go TACP in the Airforce after my contract is up next March.

>>40519492
You're gonna have a great time in the Army. People are gonna look at you like you're a badass when you ppl pogs. Pls don't only call ppl pogs online.

>>40518591
>>40518604
You'll regret it. I know a dude who didn't deploy for 4 years as an 11B. I know another 11C as well that didn't deploy. You're going to literally cut grass, clean bathrooms, and go on shitty details for 4 years on your first term then realize you fucked up. If you want to see some shit try to go rasp after jump school.

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How's this routine senpai?

Weighted Pull Ups: 3x4-6, 1xAMRAP
Weighted Dips: 3x4-6, 1 AMRAP
Reverse Barbell Curl: 2x8-12
Skullcrushers: 2x8-12
Hanging Leg Raises w/Pushups: 3xf

M/W/Saturday
Off days are meant for cardio. Except Sunday.

Pic related is me. Someone else edited it when I posted original a while back

>>40520396
run 3x a week. yw

>>40519352

If you go officer and try for sf it's more competitive and you're probably only going to get around a year of actual team time if you make it.

>>40520119
yeah im well aware of drop rates in brpc vs actual brc. ive thought about this for ever now and im 100% all in. obviously things like injury and sickness can occur so anything can happen

>>40512735
It certainly helped my running. Although it took me a couple months to get my strength back.

>>40512735
>being a welfare queen idiot

no

>>40520285
Maybe as an LT you'll get to coordinate fire missions but that's really not your primary duty.

Again I've met some badass officers but they're not the ones kicking in doors (if anybody has witnessed an LT actually kicking in doors I'd love to hear the story if for nothing but comic relief)

>>40520617
Honestly man it's a terrible idea. Take it from a grunt who actually does R+S, that shit is fucking hard and if you fail as a contract recon, you'll get POGed out and be a bitch for the rest of your enlistment. Your best bet is thus:

>go infantry
>pass boot camp
>go to SOI and become a machinegunner (rah)
>spend a few months in the fleet, see how you like grunt life
>go to the a recon brief (they do them like no shit every two weeks)
>do their little screener and see what they tell you

I've been to a couple of those briefs and they told me the difference between contract recon guys and guys from the fleet is like 50% passing to 80% passing. And if you fail in the fleet you'll still go back to your same unit as a grunt, just be prepared for everyone to roast you.

You wouldn't imagine. I take it up the ass constantly. Gotta be stretched out for bookcamp bro.

>>40520708
Wow, what an eloquent argument

>>40512735
ROTC cadet here. Only reason I'm fit really. Oh, and no need to salute me civilians.

>>40520943
Fuck off dot.

>>40520943
Faggot

>>40521010
>>40521018

Just fucking around. Don't actually want someone actually in the army to think I'm serious. But, I am serious, ROTC has motivated me into being rather fit and I love it just for that.

>>40520943

suck start a shotgun scooter

>>40513067
eh. they would have grown up to be terrorists anyways

>>40512735
fuck off welfare queens

saved and retorted too

>>40517639
Langley?

PT kills my gains

Been training for Air Force, Im working hard on my run time and my sit ups

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apparently this dude is on /fit/ and in mil

>>40520764
yeah thats what i hear all the time. i figure ill be about 22 when i finish my degree so i really want to save as much time as possible.

is it common to be denied trips to indoc as 0311 or whatever because ive heard you usually have to spend like 2 years first or something along those lines.

>>40512735
literally just got back from drill

lost 20 pounds during basic

rush army reserve and go to college

>>40517937
>To be a cop in my state is an 11.0 on a Beep test

Standards are weird.

>>40521473
I'm pretty sure you can only be denied if your command has a good enough reason, never seen it happen because generally the guys who are motivated enough to try out for recon are good marines and have no reason to be denied in the first place.

as a grunt, lat moving to recon is different, you can technically lat move at any time as long as you have at least two years left on your contract (this is because they want to get at least one deployment out of you)

If you're going recon the only primary MOSs I would recommend would be rifleman, machine gunner, and maybe assaultman. Being a rifleman will make you the best all around grunt, but machinegunners learn the 4 machine guns of the infantry so it will give you an edge down the road. It'll also prepare you for carrying the extra weight required for r+s missions. Assault men are a good asset because they're good with explosives and can make shape charges and shit. I don't know much about it but there's an assaultman in my sniper platoon and he's been an asset on multiple occasions. Stay away from mortarman and TOW gunner because they're basically useless MOSs and they're fags.

>>40512735
I train for guerilla partisan warfare against those trying to ban 2d waifus

>>40513067
Glad that not all of fit are brainwashed mil fags

>>40513340
>you were half way there

There are only two kinds of people who say this.

People who haven't spent 10 years in yet trying to convince themselves that, if they can just make it to 10, they can go the distance.

And the dumb motherfuckers who absolutely hate the military but had too many kids, bought too much house, and got into too much debt to be able to afford to get out.

No one who actually enjoys the lifestyle makes it to 10 years and then starts making excuses to stay in, they don't even think about it.

>>40512937
Was an 0321 for 6 years. If you've got any questions about BRC or just training for selection lemme know.

>>40516216
Don't tell them shit

>>40518547
There are full gyms on everything but subs. Sub you gotta figure out a workout routine to maintain mass. All the have is DBs that go up to 100 and places to do pull ups. That's about it.

army made me less fit, I went from running everyday to running 2-3 and lifting most days.

coz of my own laziness

>>40518028
you giant fucking mongoloid. field is for cutting. continue to lift.

No. However the simplestons that flock to the military have retard strength.

>>40512735
I was in the military, and I can say I take fitness more seriously now than I ever did when I was in. I do find myself using the military as a motivation though. Especially when I think about my good buddy who was killed in Afghanistan, I always push myself a little further for him.

Overweight guy graduating college with a B.S. in MechE.

I want to become an officer in the US Military. I am working hard to lose weight and get fit. Down about 10lbs since January.

Do you guys have recommendations on officer careers and branches? I'm very interested in being a NFO or Navy Pilot but I hear it's pretty tough to get the spot. I looked into SWO for Nuclear but I also heard SWO is super boring. Anyone in the Army have insight?

Thanks yall.

>>40512735
need to pass the prison officer fitness test.

its next week.

I'm actually most concerned about the grip test , because my hands and fingers are quite skinny.

Need to have a grip strength of 25kg.

>tfw can't join the airforce bc I've done acid
rrrreeeee

>>40522765
Why'd you tell them you did acid?
Unless you were charged with it and they found out through pulling your records, you are a complete dumbass.

>>40513067
libtard or shitskin?

>>40512735
joining the adf once i graduate year 12, hopefully it isn't as cucked as I've heard

>>40522739
>SWO
>Anyone in the Army have insight
SWO is Navy, you feck

>>40522964
libshitz
Get it? Because it's a Jewish name?
t. not the guy you were replying to

>>40513067
How does it feel to have no balls faggot?

>>40522995
Oops, yeah I meant to mention I'm looking into both branches but really only researched Navy Officer programs.

>>40523009
Okay. Thumbs up.

>>40518935
Have fun doing a retarded ass crossfit pt program, eating shitty dfac food, endless shit details, and the everyday pain of existing

>on upside CQ gives me more time to shitpost here

>>40519687
This

>>40513067

c u c k

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>>40512735
>weapon oriented upward
>dude running with his kidney pad clipped on
>uneven boot blouses
>just wearing an IBA, no kit

You just know some POG unit made this and were like "Damn dude you looked like you were going into battle!" When in reality these faggots sit on the FOB Drinking green bean coffee and bitch about the shitty internet.

>>40523030
This.

Seriously what is the point of being in if we're not actively fighting a war? Free college?

>>40521382
young matt damon?

>>40523453
Also no deployment patch

>>40522739
Unless you're a top tier alpha male chad who has never failed at anything in his life you can pretty much kiss being a naval aviator goodbye. Sorry bud that shit is just super fucking competitive.

Aside from interval sprints, what are some good ways to prepare for the bleep test?
I need to score a 10 and I'm at 7 right now

>>40522833
I never told anyone. I'm just debating enlisting bc I feel like I got my shit together now. How do they know if I have done acid? Talk to my friends?

>>40514390

OBUA nowadays you old fuck.

Why are you guys so happy to risk your lives for the power games of powerful men? Don't you realise you are basically getting cucked out of your life?

>>40524657
>caring about why you fight
faggot

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>>40524684
Enjoy being used as a tool.

>>40524708
Posting a bunch of boring bullshit doesn't change the fact that you're a pussy

>>40516617
Josh is still active duty.

>>40524723
Come on, I know you realise how irrational it is to go to war for a bullshit cause that does not benefit you in any way.

Why would anyone ever want to be a grunt lol its literally a rock eating contest. Also, why are all grunts either dyel or fat as fuck?

>>40524848
>bullshit cause
Who cares.
Fighting for a "cause" is spooked as fuck.

>>40524104
I've heard.

But damn. Doesn't hurt to try though, right?

>>40521826

Depends on the type of boat. Submariner here.

SSGNs tend to have full gym setups. The one I rode had a 3D smith machine, Jacob's ladders, rope pulling machines, tons of different dumbbells and flat benches, pretty much anything you can think of was stuffed between missile tubes.

Fast attack is different. Guys can typically find somewhere to cram a bench and barbell if they're dedicated enough. When weights get secured we find small guys, put ratchet straps around them, and bench/row/overhead press them.

>>40513368
Me, too. Going USMC OCC Jan '18. Second time thru their OCS (declined commission). Hell if it doesn't make me moto.

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I legit am only going to college, lifting, running, and swimming for a shot at option 11x 18x green beret.

What I am:
>80 lbs over weight
>made 78 on ASVAB
>3 years out of high school
>didn't take SAT (took community college entrance and failed that)
>no social skills

What I'm doing:
>aforementioned in the preamble
>Studying Free online courses to retake math/computer entrance exam
>Making to sure talk to old friends/new people

What I need:
>110 on asvab/GT
>finish a Mechanical engineering degree first
>Be at the upper limits of the APFQT
>Develop willpower to lose weight and to be able to run so far and fast my legs puke into oblivion

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>>40524708
But what if you are being attacked


>1930s very little terrorism or violence on the domestic
>at least in a notable sense

>500 A.D. to early 2000s (NOW) "Wahhabi" Sunnis a.k.a "RADICAL" muslims who use the principle that infidel are subhuman and may be lied to and killed are slaughtering western people
>Also ex-bloc nations gib them guns

Shut the fuck up. I bet you didn't know Gulf war 2: Electric Boogaloo was a cover story to have troops in theater to deal with Saudi arabia

>>40518359
up the pace, try 30/30

>>40513067
>implying I didn't join to kill civilians

>>40524708
He's right.

I don't care about why I fight, I joined because I want to fight and I love to fight.

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>>40513247
>>40514399
>>40518046
>>40521142
>>40522964
>>40523005
>>40523080

yes good goy, keep fighting for your country

>>40512735
no because i have a high school diploma and don't want to be a welfare queen

I was a snarky lolbertarian piece of shit when I was younger, and now at 28 I desperately want to become an operator, whether a Seal or a Green Beret or whatever. But I understand I'm too old now except for by special waver. Feels bad senpai.

>>40525969
That's obviously fine, there are also other reasons why joining might be a good decision, such as making valuable connections etc.

>>40525419
I'd assume that if we didn't provoke the muslims through invasion of their countries they might not respond with small scale terror attacks against us..

We could also simply not let them in to the west, who cares what they are doing in their shitholes, it really does not matter to the the average citizen of Europe/US.

>>40512735

thank god i'm not a government drone that gets sent out to get killed in a jewish-financed war against islamists.

>>40526141
only valid post here

>>40526141
This isn't the 1930's anymore, cuck.

Kikes don't promote patriotism or fighting spirit, they stir civil unrest and inward collapse. They bring about the destruction of nations by breeding them out and mixing their genes with subhumans. War and prowess in battle is the Aryans supreme gift

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>>40512735
>Implying there's standards in the femilitary anymore

>>40526247

kek
The war on terror is being financed by jews. if israel wants the USA to go to war, the USA listens like a good goy.
The USA is a vassal state of israel, the whole middle east is destabilized because of this, which in fact promotes mass immigration to europe.

>>40526292
I wish USA and Israel would just wipe out the entire middle east. Shit, I'd even let Israel keep it if it meant no more mudslimes. Unfortunately, Jews are much more sinister

>>40526353

Not gonna say i disagree. But the problem lies deeper.

>>40526353
Then they would just marxsism you with your own people to death.

>>40517327
>Anyone got any tips for bleep test?
Much harder than the 1.5 mile when i did it imo. Did mine around two weeks ago, at least 5 guys failed.

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>>40526192
But there literally wasn't any provocation on the US part. From Egypt to modern day Turkey was the doing of the French and UK.

The only reason why the US went into the middle east was BLOC selling nukes and AKs to racist pinko blacks to fight SADF and Rhodies. Which would have lead to what Muslims have been doing to Europe for a very long time.

Invading through Spain.

Check out JRE and Alex jones niggeh

>>40526614
What did you do for your 1.5, what did you do for your bleepboop?

>>40526717
I'd like to know this too

>>40517327
You don't need to be that fit desu, and for the beep test just practice a bit, 9.10 is pretty easy to hit.

>>40518000
Start to slow down about 5-4 metres before the line, that's what the pti told me to do and it seems to make it easier

>>40521741
ok, im already very fit by normal standards, but i understand its going to take a ton more work to get to the level where ill feel confident going in.

i plan on giving myself one full year of focused training to change what im bad at, or have little experience with -in this case all the different swim types and just general practice.
i also have zero experience using fins and ive heard there is a timed swim in the actual BRC into the surf with packs.

How did you prepare yourself? how long did you take to prepare yourself and what if any equipment did you buy in order to help?

>>40519352
Quick rundown

Officer pros:
>dat higher status
>people call you sir, have to salute you
>more money
>get to fly helicopters if aviation
>get more of a chance to go to Ranger school if combat arms
>more transferable into the civilian world regardless of MOS (mostly because you have to have a college degree to commission)

Officer cons:
>apart from PL time (which lasts like a year) you won't do any high speed shit
>just paper work and staff stuff
>you're in trouble any time some idiot private fucks up or gets arrested
>you're in trouble for literally any bad thing that happens under your command
>you're responsible for everyone: everyone else eats, sleeps, and drinks before you do

Enlisted pros:
>Get to do high speed army shit like shoot and blow things up
>don't need any work experience or degree, can sign up out of high school
>Don't have to hold yourself to a higher moral standard, get to fuck around and get in trouble because it's "just joe shit"
>Eventually become an NCO which basically gives you the same "elevated status" as an officer, privates have to respect you, etc
>until you are an NCO, you literally only need to care about yourself, your weapon, your equipment, etc
>any time you fuck up, your officers or NCOs will get more in trouble than you

Enlisted Cons:
>you start at rock bottom, everyone is above you and you have to take their shit because it's literally your job
>you make fuck all for money
>Unless your job is logistics or tech, you won't have many opportunities in the civilian world
>you're probably going to get some cringey "death before dishonor" tattoo


Hope that helps.

Yes I'm preparing for Air Force BMT, shipping at the end of May.

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Any tips for taking the AFOQT?

>>40531390

Same for any standardized test: prepare, be smart, get a good night's sleep?

Looking to hear if any milfags have some insight.

I'm interested in joining the military as a physician which I know is one of the few fields they always need due to turnover. However, when I was working on a masters degree a few years I was feeling like a depressed sad cunt for a little while (mostly because I didn't know what to do with my life) and I talked to a counselor ONCE. She gave me antidepressants which I never even took and only had the prescription for one month but she asked me if I drank and did drugs and I told her the truth which is that I was drinking and smoking pot tons and that I had done mushrooms once.

So, that was a few years ago and I've been clean and healthy since, and I'm competitive for a field the military wants, but I officially have on my counseling record that I was stupid and smoked and drank a bunch back as a student. Any chance I could get a waiver? I know it's all on an individual basis so it's hard to really know. Would a normie non-Marine One type physician even have their grad school counseling records turned over if there's no indication elsewhere that it even exists?

I guess if we go to war with Russia or something it would increase my odds considerably ha.

Thanks brehs.

>>40531756
Should be good imo. No experience, but we need doctors pretty bad. LPN here, enlisted. Worth a shot.

Will they look into my juvinile record to find out I had a few 5150's or am I worrying too much about that? Want into navy, but I'm worried I'll be DQ'd and permab&.

>>40531787


That's encouraging. Other than that stuff my application is pretty straight laced. Eagle scout, no legal troubles ever not even a speeding ticket, good grades in school, etc. Wish I could go back and tell my younger self not to jeopardize potential careers by making short sighted choices but we all have to grow up somehow I suppose.

I figure I might as well go to the local medical recruiter and just be honest with him and see what he says. Worst case I don't get a waiver and I go on with my life.

>>40531756

Also, I'm interested in Army if that makes a difference. I have experience in infectious disease research and would be interested in doing some more if I go to USUHS.

>>40531756
They don't know what you don't tell them. They do not spend money to find out who your doctor, insurance, therapist is. They do not spend money to call them ask for your damn records.

Yup, it's still my barometer for fitness.

If i can't do 20 pullups, 100 crunches and a sub 24 run, I know I'm in bad shape.

>>40530398
Start practicing your swimming. Breast stroke is faster and easier to learn than CSS. Also FOCUS on GLIDING. Really focus on that and running. If you're delayed entry I'd suggest talking to the Navy recruiters and ask for the NSW coordinator. Ask them if it's ok if you train with the NSW (naval special warfare) candidates. I'd suggest focusing maybe 2-3 times a week on weights. Emphasize on your legs it'll help with finning. Work on pull ups doing latters and rowing. Lastly do run swim runs. Nothing will prepare you for ruck runs btw.

>>40532028

What happens when your detailer calls you up to let you know your new position will require top-secret and that you need to get the paperwork started?

>>40518935
>poolee saying fuck pogs

that's real cute, peace timer

It actually fucked my body up and metabolism.
MREs are fucking terrible for you bit a lot of times thats all you have to eat. And most of the time it was all about muscle build and not enough cardio to burn what youve eaten. Im in the reserves now and trying to recover my body from what the army jas turned it into

>>40516650

Hi, Sal/Joel

Yes. My command makes the techs do crossfit type stuff for 2 hours every day. We join in sometimes, but mostly do our own shit in the gym.

>>40529132
How can I go from 7.5 to 10? I have like forty days to prepare