Fatty general

>>40500627
Well i am currently around 266lb and intend to try to get down to 200lb, 5'9.

I dont intend to be hyper masc or a skellington, i like being slightly chubby like pic related but i do intend to keep it around that level

>>40500651
I was referring once i get to 200lb, i am currently at 266 and losing slowly with diet and some home exercises.

But i want to be around that pic related body which needs some daily exercise anyway so i assume it ll be useful ONCE i get to 200lb and have the$$$ to get some machine home to work with to keep that bodytype.

Fatty reporting in

I'm 6'2
Last May I was 310, now I'm 235 and working down (but I've been slacking off recently).

What do you guys do to keep on track? I want to hit 200 before summer
(a number I haven't seen on a scale since middle school)

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Ex-fatty here.

You guys might be looking for a support group, but this is a perfect place for fatlogic to take root and fester.

Remember that the sticky trumps everything you read ITT.

>weight stalled
>pants keep getting looser

Could this be me gaining back the muscle that I had lost during my two year hiatus from lifting? This has been going on for like three weeks now.

>>40502400
>have the$$$ to get some machine home to work with to keep that bodytype.
jogging in the park is free. Doing pushups is free.

fatties need to get educated (sticky) and then bullied (rest of /fit/), you don't need a hugbox

>>40502514
Arent certain tools way more effective at the end of the day though? I mean if you could do everything faster without any of those tools then we wouldnt be making those tools.

Again though like i said, this is for the future, right now i am doing certain exercises(wall pushups and others, real ares are nope.jpg) and diet

>>40502498
That's why we're here, Bearmode here still.
I don't have a life outside of work, the gym, blacksmithing and my fiancé. Quell the fat logic and set people on the right path.

>>40502498
help me keep them in check then

t anorexic

Daily reminder IIFYM is a good diet that lets you enjoy unhealthy fatty foods and lose weight.

You dont need to eat ultra healthy shit like rice/chicken for your entire life.

it is a simple calorie deficit that you need

>>40502588
Agreed this is what I preach.
Energy out > energy in and you'll lose weight. Stay on your routine and on the IIFYM plan and you'll definitely lose weight.
No more pretended it's your genetics and other bullshit. You're fat because you binge and are sedentary, period. Don't come on here and point fingers because we're all adults here and the person responsible for your gross body is in the mirror.

Ketofag here, down almost 50lb. I hit my goal weight and have been maintaining on keto and the various adaptations of it while lifting.
Any of you fat fucks considering keto?

>Inb4 meme diet

>>40502618
Why are certain things like coke, milkshakes, frappucino etc not allowed though?

i mean they dont have that many calories, 100-400 isnt that much yet everyone says to avoid them.

>>40502669

They spike your blood sugar, make you a lot hungrier, and just take a chunk out of your caloric intake for the day making it hard to stay satisfied

>>40502669
>Why are certain things like coke, milkshakes, frappucino etc not allowed though?

If you're a fat sack of shit, you won't stop at just one. Don't delude yourself.

You need to replace these things.

>milkshake -> protein shake
>coke -> coke zero (or zero cal green tea)
>frappucino -> black coffee + zero cal creamer

>>40502749
Adding a 400 gr pack of frozen berries to a protein shake makes a nice replacement for both milkshake and frappes. Add espresso to the last one for coffee taste. 100 calories extra but loads of fibre, healthy and low GMI.

>>40499260
>>40502400
That is around 190-200lb imo, still a little fat but not dangerous fat like 266, if you want it go for it imo, it is a good goal.

>>40502689
>make you a lot hungrier
Ah good to know, that does make sense, i sometimes ate more later the day because of a morning frappucino in the past.

>>40502749
Nah much rather not drink anything but water, if i am going to drink something it ll be something tasty and worthwhile, i ll just have to have the meal planned so it ll fit in it

>just back from 2 hour walk with my dog

best exercise there is and i will fight you on it
playing tug of war with a really strong dog can also be pretty tiring

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I'm so excited, it took forever but I got down to my goal weight of 250 (5'9"), finally I can start bulking, starting with pic related.

What's the best workout I can do so I can make mad gains?

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>>40502870
looks great dude

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who here can't stop eating pasties?

i love them and they are great for bulking

pic related its me eating pasties

>>40502870
5'9 250lbs, im pretty sure you should cut for another 100lbs kek

can you guys keep these threads going for the next year or so

gonna need em

>>40502870
250 at 5'9 is not bulking time

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>>40502870
>Yfw he means 250kg

>>40502870
>goal weight of 250 (5'9")

ARISE MEGAMANLET

5'11" 246 lbs (down 62)
Any suggestions for fun cardio? Currently I just alternate between cycling and running.

>>40503081
Swimming is my favorite cardio.
At that weight I'd suggest avoid running too often and do more cycling for better joint health.

>>40503177
>better joint health.
Is cross-country skiing okay on the joints?

hey guys

im the guy with the exercise bike and used to drink jugs of tea

im down 20 pounds!

>>40503487
Congrats man!

:^)

>>40503242

It's definitely better than running. The main issue with running is your knees aren't made to absorb hundreds of hard impacts at a time. Good form reduces the stress on the joint but at heavier weights even with good form running isn't recommended. Controlled motions and full ROM are key to good joint health eg. Cycling, swimming, rowing.

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>tfw lost 41 lbs since New Years

Holy shit, I think I'm going to make it this time.

>>40502505
Yes.

>>40502669
If you think a milkshake is only 400 calories, there's something wrong with your reading comprehension. Look, the extra pure fucking sugar will send you into an insulin spike and fuck up your hunger signals. Not worth it.

>>40503081
Hiking. Get the hell into nature.

>>40504041
300g of average milkshake is around 400

It depends on quantity and where you get it from, for example mcdonalds one medium is 800

google

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I am 10 kg overweight and I kinda just want to hit "pause" on most of my lifts so I don't feel pressured to push those numbers up by eating more. I'd keep lifting but I wouldn't really try to push myself to keep setting PRs, and then I'd try to diet like an anorexic Stacey. What do you think?

Bearbro, are you natty?

>reforming fatty
6 foot almost 300 at worst now 190.. Final push to 160ish.

>4 weeks in tomorrow

can't wait to take my first progress pic
still many months to go, but i cannot fail
i'm seriously like a kid on xmas eve

also gonna have my first cheat day (eating at maintenance calories, not pigging out)

we cannot fail lads

>>40504129
And how old were you when you started?

Chicken wing in the oven with some salt on top, how many calories per wing? Google gives me 80 which seems small

>>40502420

Shameless ad: >>40475866

lel

But seriously, I (started 180kg, now 143 and going) used 5kg dumbbells in the beginning, because I was too heavy/weak for body weight, but completely switched over.

It's so satisfying for me push myself around and I feel awesome when I do the mobility/yoga stuff.

Changed my diet to almost Paleo so I still eat til I'm full (though "full" NOW is way less than "full" 5 months ago) and I eat some chocolate or piece of cake or similar every other week in order to not go insane :P

>>40503997
Don't get too comfy.

>>40502520

fatty on the verge of becoming normal agrees

though I think it's still good if you want some reinforcement from time to time ... because being bullied doesn't work 100% of the time kek

>>40504342
I know. I'm still keeping my eating under watch and plan on exercising all week again.

Just hit 300 pound squat today. Nearly had 3 plates but lost it 3/4 of the way back up.

Up 100 pounds since I started 6 weeks ago. Feeling pretty good about it.

>>40504266
just think it is 120 calories per wing with skin and you should be fine

>>40504266
why not weigh it

>>40502550
There are other criteria besides effectiveness. Bodyweight works if done right, but it's difficult to do it right. Even serious lifters still do pullups and dips, although with added weight after they're past beginner level.

Free weights are superior to machines for general lifting, btw. If you do decide to go for the home gym, don't get a machine, get a bench, a rack and some weights.

>>40502669
Milkshakes can have a lot more than 400 kcal mate.

>>40503242
Yes.

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5'11"
235lbs on the left at the end of September
195lbs on the right today
Anybody want to estimate bf% of both for me? I was originally aiming for 175lbs, but now I'm thinking I'll need to get to 150lbs to get under 15%. Does that seem correct?

>>40504129
Yeah I'm natty.

>>40504777
Age?

>>40504164
I was 26 when I really started lifting weights. I took a three year hiatus from fitness out of the military.
I'm 29.5 now

>>40504789
But you were kind of jacked in the military, right? I'm 32 and have never really been fit. I don't need do get as big as you, but I'm worried I waited too long to make any significant progress as far as building muscle.

>>40504766
lifts?

>>40504777
Answered below. I'm 29 now, I really started giving it my all when I was 26.

>>40504812
Yeah, I was pretty much just really cut with a bit of muscle. I we have to stay light in the military so we can be carried.
Nah you didn't wait too long. One of the guys I lift with, Chuck, he's almost 50 and he still makes gains. He's aight.

>>40504812
Also when I picked up fitness again, I cross trained with MMA. You may want to look into that.

>>40504821
I actually lifted for the first time in my life on Thursday. I'm starting Allpro's beginner routine on Monday. I did some very humbling lifting in Thursday to find my 10rep maxes. The calculator gave me some very embarrassing 1RMs as well. Pls no bully.
Squat - 130lbs
Bench - 117lbs
OHP - 81lbs
SLDL - 196lbs
Rows - 106lbs
Barbell Curls - 78lbs
Calf Raise - 130lbs

Seems very disproportionate to me.

>>40504902
k just wondering because it looked like you have no strength foundation, just confirming

>>40504916
Correct. None at all.

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>>40504921
if nothing else you made me feel better

>>40502669
400 calories is 1/3 of my daily calorie allowance. If I had a frapp every day, I wouldn't have enough calories left to get the protein and nutrients I need for the day not to mention it's very high in carbohydrate.
These kinds of things like junk food and sweets are only a sometimes treat I indulge in, not a staple of my healthy diet. They don't have nutrition.

/coffee/ here

Will drinking it hinder my weight loss?

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>>40504987
We've all got to start somewhere.

>>40505017
Nah, caffine is a decent stimulant.
Drink it black tho.

>>40505017

Not if you don't put like massive amounts of sugar or cream into it

>>40504812
I wouldn't be bigger but I struggle with quitting smoking. :/

>>40504812
I would be bigger but I struggle with quitting smoking. :/

Are skinnyfats welcome here?

>>40505205
Ya bro

>>40505031
>>40505041
thanks guys

>>40505205
Yes just identify so people don't give you advice for a deathfat. Skinnyfats can do more starting out. Everyone here has been afraid to advise anyone else to do a fast, hard cut or advise weight-bearing cardio because they don't want the deathfats leaping off the couch into a run and blowing their knees out.

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6'3" 171 - now exactly in the middle of healthy range BMI (21.5), almost there! Just a tiny bit more to go (plan is to go to 165 and from there slowly add back some lean mass)
Shitty child-bearing hips though, no way to get rid of these unfortunately ;_;

>>40505408
Bearbro here.
I lift chest every Saturday while fasted. Then I finally eat afterward. Just had a protein shake and a big ass piece of grilled chicken. Fukin get a outdoor propane grill for those quit grill gains lol gunna eat a nice salad in about two hours lol

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>>40505532
No good/full before pic (desaturated because colours were messed up), but this should've been my heaviest at 220

Please be mean to me I'm fat and I'm lazy

How did you spend your saturday, fatanon.

>>40505537
It's all good, everyone at all levels in here and not much whining or fatlogic so let's hope the threads continue to be good. I agree about the grill too, holy hell grilled chicken is so good!

I think it would be good to post a 'best babby beginner advice for deathfats (morbidly obese) who eat like shit and have never exercised' because they can't do the advice in the sticky very well, I'm guessing. I know some are reading here.

>>40505546
Go post an entitled sob story in fat hate thread, I'm sure you'll get some abuse. That's not what this thread is for, sorry.

>>40505600
Worked 5-1:30.
Came home, at two hard boiled eggs and a tuna pouch.
Watched a bit of television.
Just finished cooking my ground turkey for dinner.

jesus FUCK the wait to have a good body is just sooo damn long. I know I know, better to start and eventually get there, time will pass anyway, etc etc but goddamn every single say every single meal is a fucking challenge

God I wanna my abs so bad

>>40505742
JUst wait until you enjoy the journey. It will come.

>>40505628
I have considered that, but only really three years of my 29 years I've been alive was I really sedentary and fat. I wouldn't be a good guide lol

>>40505532
You dont really have child bearing hips your shoulders are just narrow.

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>>40505773
>Tfw Broad shoulder barrel chest masterrace

>>40505742
Eat one big 1500 calorie meal once a day, helps to keep you satisfied, then just vegetables

>>40505742
Whey shakes really help me feel sated for quite a while.

>>40505742
You didn't get fat overnight so you won't get fit that way either. Stay on the ball, and every good meal brings you 1 step closer. Are you cutting hard enough to lose 2 pounds a week and exercising? If so, seeing a difference should come pretty quickly. If not, why not?

>>40505768
Me either, I've never been obese. But telling super-fats to eat TDEE-500 and start off doing weight bearing exercise or impact cardio isn't really practical. They can eat stricter than that but need body-weight exercises and no-impact cardio at first. Not covered in the sticky.

>>40505742
Baby steps.

If you want solid progress record your achievements of how much you can run/squat

Anyone else miss mayonnaise as much as I do?

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>>40502313
>ate 1000 cals most of yesterday
>late last night pigged out
>probably 3 to 4 thousand calories yesterday total
>woke up today
>had a donut and Ice cream
>decided to turn the day aroudn quickly though
>just had my second meal, eggs and veggies
>about 1500 cals for today so far

Feel bad that I fucked up but glad that this is the first time I rebounded quickly and didn't fall into a spiral of "this weekend is screwed, just keep eating shit". Not going to make that mistake again of pigging out so hard.

>>40505994
You really have no excuse if you can prepare your meals, you can feel satisfied if you cook something good and tasty and eat that one big meal once a day

>>40506004
I know man, when i had those cravings last night I should've just had a shit ton of vegetables and water and went to sleep. Will do so next time.

>>40505986
Nope, low carb ftw. I limit it though, and find that less tastes just as good as twice as much used to.

>>40505986
I used to really enjoy Tuna and Turkey Sandiches with good amounts of mayo. You can still have the same thing pretty much, just use a Wrap, a dash of Light Mayo, and plenty of lettuce/cucumber/tomato in your food

>>40505994

Which is why you shouldn't cut like a madman but regularly exercise and have an active lifestyle while mildly cutting.

Just cutting like mad gives you eating attacks and double the weight you've lost after you've stopped cutting

>>40505532
>hands

Are you a Russian coal miner?

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I took up mushroom hunting as a hobby, so three days out of the week I take my dog and we go hike innawoods. It's great because it gives you incentive to keep exercising and you can go at your own speed, plus I get to bring home great tasting highly nutritional goodies that also give incentive to learn how to cook decently. It really helps to unwind as well.

As an added bonus, you would be surprised how many grills are into this.

>>40506165
sounds comfy af anon

Here's a tip for fattys:
Watch what you eat, don't eat SUGARY crap like candy and soda pop. BUT as long as you watch your caloric intake, fast food is fine about one day a week so if you need your fix, get your fix.

I've lost 40 pounds before and continued to eat pizza/taco bell/snack on fritos but I always kept it to 1-2 slices of pizza, 1 item from taco bell, and snacks I didn't care for and since I only did it about once a month/every other week I usually just ate the amount of chips I wanted that day.

One day won't ruin your progress, but continuing to eat like shit will.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a 700 calorie dinner date with some Tim Horton's Mac and Cheese that will be 100% fine for me because I didn't eat like shit today.

fap or no fap

>>40506409
No fap is a meme.
But I still don't be fap, and I do believe it helps.

>>40505773
Yeah that too, but hips still could be narrower, 39" around
>>40505994
Damn I wish I could eat like that. I actually need 2950 a day, but ever since dropping soda and reducing the beers, I feel disgustingly full after 2000/day in solid foods. Going back towards maintenance will actually be the hardest for me
>>40506117
Kek I was actually gardening for a couple hours before, plus it's pretty cold outside here

How do I get rid of love handles?
Im already skinny in most parts of my body, but mainly I've been working on my arms and chest.
Is cardio my best option here?

>>40506265
Problem is many can't restrict, a couple of pizza slices becomes the whole pizza, a serving of chips becomes 1/2 or a whole bag, and who orders one taco?

One or two reasonable cheat meals per week and a strict diet the rest of the time is more realistic for some. It will taste 'boring' for a while, fast food and prepared food is overdosed on fat, sugars and salt.

One thing I notice in many cases is that bigger fatties have often lost track of what a 'serving size' actually is. Food scale helps.

>>40505994
when i have cravings i try to eat light yougr /geltine so i get stuffed

>>40506499
lose bodyfat

>>40506499
You can't spot reduce. Belly fat usually comes first (in men) when you become fat, ergo it's the last to go when you're losing. So all you can do is cut some more

>>40505994
I bought a ton of peanuts (like 5 pounds at a time) and munch on that to sate my cravings.
Idk how bad they are for you, so I measured them into 8oz containers and snack on one if I must.

I'm down to maybe a pack or two (of the 8oz baggies) from one or two a day.

Other than that I fill up on water and it usually curbs my hunger for a bit.
inb4 literally drowning my hunger

>>40506558
That's up to a pound per day. Are you an elephant? Peanuts are very high calorie/fat.
You won't lose weight easily this way.
Try
LETTUCE
CARROTS
CUCUMBERS
Instead.
Add 1-2 ounces of part skim string cheese.

>>40502804
That is nearly a POUND of berries. No.
add 100g max. Jfc. Portion sizes. Learn some.

1 cup of frozen mixed veggies is 120 calories

no excuse not to eat them for how cheap and healthy they are

also good source of fibre

>>40506725
do you buy them raw or frozen? In bulk or what? What brands? what veggies?

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>>40506735
No name brand.

>>40506735
Not him but I love peas and carrots (hate broccoli though which this board unanimously seems to love), water boiled with a little salt. Frozen is the best choice (aside from self-harvested when in season or bought fresh), because at least here the canned ones almost all have added sugar

>>40506765
>>40506775
gotcha, gonna look for frozen veggie bags, thanks

>>40506735
If in US there are a ton of veggie blends frozen and lots of fresh. Go on a food-scouting mission and just see what is available locally to you. I always keep frozen Asian stir fry blend and some diced cooked frozen chicken on hand for quick stir fry meal.

>>40503008
kek

>>40506805
>diced cooked frozen chicken
i've never heard of this, waht is it exactly?

>>40504766
yeah you need to get to like 160 desu. You don't have any muscle meng, or it's all hidden. So all the weight you have is fat. I mean no shame in it though, you're doing an excellent job. I started at 215 in october and I'm at 178 today. I think I have to get around to 160. Just keep cutting until you're happy with how you look lol. Think about it bro, in 4-7 months time you'll be ready to bulk.

>>40506837
That's the plan. Get to where I can start bulking by September.

>>40506826
Precooked chicken that is cut into small cubes and then frozen and sold in your grocer's freezer.

>>40506826
I roast extra chicken breasts, dice them up, freeze on a baking tray, put in a container in the freezer so I always have some quick cooked chicken that defrosts fast in the microwave. I can measure out my portion, defrost, eat it over stir fry veggies or on top of a salad.

Honey baked chicken with green beans and mashed sweet potatoes tonight. Made enough to eat for a few meals tomorrow.
Fasted chest day is best day.
Secret is to go easy on carbs the day you have the honey. All though I'll stand by it, if you're gonna something sweet, honey is the way to go.
Kinda fitting as I am being called bearbro on here lol

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>>40506652
>100 calories is bad
>a meal of 200 calories with 30 gr protein is bad

My life is changing broskis.

I'm no longer letting my disability get in the way of my healthy lifestyle.

I'm going to lose weight.

I'm going to eat healthy.

I will not give into temptation.

I refuse to become diabetic.

This is my life now. It's hard to work out for me, it's so fucking hard. But I'm doing it. Even if it's only a little bit at a time. I refuse to be a lard. I refuse to be the person I used to be. This isn't about impressing a girl, this isn't about getting out of a depression, this isn't anything like it was before.

The fact of the matter is that I've let myself go the past three years and I'm going to go back to what I used to be.

Week One is done. Did I have a bad Friday? Yeah. I did Friday sucked. But not anymore.

The road to 200 is going to be easy. Let's get fit.

>>40507484
Thats the spirit anon.

>>40502313
I keep breaking my fucking cut. I'm a recovering skinnyfat, and I'm aiming to get to 14% bfp before I bulk like a motherfucker. But since I don't have control over all of my meals just yet, I keep breaking cut to get 160 g's of protien or more in. Really frustrating.


I brought a food scale though, so it's slowly improving. My leg is finally unfucked, so I'm also looking to add in HIIT. Any suggestions? Goal is to utterly destroy the beep test/multistage fitnes test (get a 10).


I'm measuring my bodyfat again in 2 days after a few weeks of "cutting" (read; breaking cut every few days). I'm optimistic, and hope that the few times I've either gone jogging or LARPing have helped balance it a bit. If I'm down to 16.5%, I'll be ecstatic.


Also, brought a kilo of chicken drumsticks on the cheap and froze 'em all. I cook up one or two as a snack. Helps a shittonne, and decent macros. About a billion time better than my chips I was eating before.

>>40507154
A shake with that much berries has more calories than that. Who eats 400g of berries in a day much less one meal? Or gives this as (bad) advice to a fatty who should be limiting all sugars, fruit too in a cutting diet? Yeah but no.

Will I lose certain fat parts at around the same weight I gained it?

I didn't have a double chin at 220, but I did at 250. Will I have a double chin when I get back down to 220?

hey fatbros who are attempting to cut, who many calories do you eat a day?

I'm good at 1000, but I some times snack a bit because MFP gets bitchy with me because "I'm not eating enough" even though I'm full and therefore won't give me a progress report.

Redbull me on high intensity vs low intensity cardio for weight loss. I have a fitbit and when I do high intensity I gain weight on my weekly weigh, when I do low intensity I lose weight. Is the "optimal bpm range" a meme?

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>>40502313
had a pretty gud day today, kinda struggled to reach my calorie goal tho so I ended up eating some fatty shit

2 eggs for breakfast
one of those 499 cal turkey sandwiches from firehouse sub for lunch
and for dinner an "small" 8 piece box o wings from dominos bc my buddies ordered pizza

then i still had like fuckin 500 cals to go so i ate 2 eggrolls (my parents had chineese back at the house)

[spoiler] how bad did i fuck up[/spoiler]

I'm 215, 5'9 and lift. I can lift ~270 and I don't know how much would be a healthy weight to shoot for.

>don't count calories, can estimate them though
>know you're losing weight
>still feel bad about eating
>know you're under calories cause you want to wolf food down

reeeeee

>>40508201
270 what? squat?
aim for sub 200 then

>>40508238
Bench

>>40508256
are you solid muscle

>>40508300
I'm muscular, but not 100%. Whenever I try to use the height weight index it says I'm very overweight.

>>40508094
My fitness pal says 1700, but I try to stay under 1500

I've become skinnyfat in my gut and now I've got to go to a wedding in a week. Can I lose a beer gut in one week?

Tbh I'm kind of hoping I've got a blood clot from sitting at my PC for years and it kills me within the week.

>>40502655
I did keto for a little over a month. I lost something crazy like 7-10 pounds in a couple weeks and then it immediately dropped off. I guess I needed to count calories, but I thought the whole point of keto was to not count calories.

So now I'm just counting calories. Should I have continued with it?

>>40505013
Why is your calorie allowance only 1200 calories? Why not do 16-1800 and just exercise to get a bit lower?

>>40502520
Eh, I disagree. /Fit/ is a pretty quick board, and half the threads on here are pretty much shitposts. THis one is actually constructive.

I'm all for bullying the shit out of people who don't read the sticky, but people actually trying to make an improvement shouldn't get hit by that shitty stick.

If you're concerned, drop in and correct any autistic fatlogic that might occur. I'm pretty sure the fatties ITT could definitely benefit from an occasional "don't do that that's retarded".

>>40502498
Drop in to these threads and keep them in check. It could definitely breed fatlogic, but could very easily also become a new crop of /fit/bros.

>>40502588
>>40502618
One of the creators of IIFYM also said that it was essential that you keep the junk down below about 12-15% of your total diet. All that shit WILL make you feel shit eventually, and kill your gains.


You don't need to eat "ultra healthy" shit all your life, but you do need to not eat like a pig if you want to make gains.

>>40502655
I considered it, but that shit was annoyingly expensive. I should consider going back on it now that I have some cash now, though.

Only issue is, I'm at uni right now. Have you felt any kind of mental drain while on it?


>Since I couldn't do full keto I did an autist keto
>Would try to base meals around mostly protein and fat
>Eventually realized I was following /fit/'s "20g of protein in a meal goal" meme
>Actually worked to some degree

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i did 10 miles today. (plus 4 this morning)
im pretty proud of myself

>>40508094
I eat 1700-1800/day and am losing weight at a reasonable pace. I go to the gym 4 days a week. 3 of them lift with light cardio at the end, 1 is pure cardio.

If I'm seeing any muscle gain it's pretty slow but I'm in it for fat loss mostly. I'll swap to gaining muscle when I'm happy with my BF/BMI.

>>40504766

You have the closest to my body type I've ever seen posted here.

I'm at ~210 right now and started consciously working out and running just a week ago (was 214 then). I'm not even lifting at the moment because I'm too self-conscious to go into the weight room.

What's your exercise regime? I just run outside for ~25 minutes every other day.

I'm 378lbs. I started at 387lbs 4 weeks ago. I know weight loss progress is slow, but at my size, It seems like I'd be capable of shedding a fuck ton of excess weight. My diet is moderate protein and high fat. Carbs are restricted to 30g net carbs(not counting sugar alcohols, fiber, etc.) My caloric intake is between 800-1600(A lot of the times, I'm just not hungry for a while once I eat.

I also IF 16/8. Am I doing good or should I be shedding more weight until 30-50lbs down the road?

>>40509222
>>40509222
I started also at 380 pounds and am currently 236.

I would recommend eating around 1600-1800 calories and incorporating some light exercise into your daily routine. You can walk slowly around the block for 30 minutes a day or on a treadmill, whatever you have available.

Don't drop all of your bad habits all at once or go straight to 1200 calories either because that is a 1 way ticket to quitting and gaining weight again.

If you are addicted to anything, be it soda, fast food, cookies, whatever, reduce it slowly. Mine was soda so I will use that example. I used to drink 6+ cans of soda per day. For the first month I reduced it to 2 per day, then for a few weeks I had 1, and then 0. I strongly recommend you apply changes gradually so that they feel natural and be part of your life rather than a 'diet'.

Slowly increase your exercise intensity too. If you walk becomes too easy, walk faster or for longer or walk uphill. Eventually you might look into a gym membership. I lost 80lbs just walking 30mins a day outside, and only started the gym at 300.

I really wish you the best, it will make your life so much better if you keep it up.

>>40508463
Because I'm a grill with small frame. 1200 is just right. If I did enough exercise to up my calories that much, I'd be exhausted. I choose to put down the fork at a reasonable number instead.

>>40509222
That's a very slow loss. I'd cut calories more and since you don't mention exercise, I'm assuming you don't do any? Might want to start. Walking is good.

>>40508808
You are doing so well, keep it up!

>>40508381

pls advise

i ate 200 calories more yesterday, thats 2200 and it was a workout day, should I reduce by 200 today on my rest day? I train 6 days a week

>>40509727
thank you very much i will!

>>40509323
I do walk roughly 1-2 miles a day.

I have an addictive personality, but as long as I cut the addiction out completely by not purchasing it or have an alternative, I'm solid, and have given up a lot. The most I've had to give up were things like bread, pasta, ramen, pizza, etc., but because I know they'll set me back, my impulse to eat them is low. I only drink zero calorie/carb sodas, if even that. 1+ Gallon of water a day before any soda.

I did a 3 mile walk yesterday, and nothing but stiffness in the back and legs like crazy. Today was like 20 degrees, so I gave myself a day to recover.

Thanks, anon. I did go from 380 to 330 over the course of a year when I worked at a busy retail place for a year and a half, but plateau'd the last three months I was there. In the time I made a career change, I gained most of it all back, and now am working it back off. Been through some shit, and having confronted and dealt with it, I'm moving towards bettering myself for good this time.

>>40509715
Even though I do exercise, I walk every day. I never feel more hungry after any amount of exercise. My pace is usually 3mph, no matter how slowly I try to walk, it's like I can't turn off the 3mph speed.

Response to both: I woke up today weighing at 382.8. Finally took a massive shit and weighed in at 378. I was pretty happy, considered I was at 379.6 all week.

>>40509806
Just go for a 20 minute walk bro

>>40509822
i dont have anywhere to go outside today, I'll just have the 200 calories and train traps and abs at home

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I just want you all to know, until you lose ALL the extra weight and get a decent body you deserve no congratulations or respect.
You never should've let yourselves get fat and don't deserve praise for losing just some of your disgusting fat, if you feel like you've made an accomplishment at the half way point you'll never make it, you'll stop early and put it back on.

>>40509825
What do you mean?
You just need to walk around, you don't need somewhere to go m8, go for a 40 minute walk and burn some real cals.
Traps and abs is not a sesh

>>40509847
fuck that ill just not eat the 200 calories

>>40509841
Right, because psychological scarring and trauma isn't a thing and food becomes an unhealthy coping mechanism that one doesn't even recognize as a problem until it's too late. Just imagine having to live with the thought of being mercilessly tortured and raped at 7 years old for two years, and have to stare at giant, healed up wounds where you were stabbed and burned. You're going to give yourself every reason not to take off your shirt.

If you ever have some horrific thing happen to you, the idea of getting help for it will fuck with you you for a multitude of reasons. Having people think you're a little bitch is one of them.

I hope you're successful in all you wish to accomplish.

I have been running yesterday (treadmill) not much but not just recklessly so my knees should be fine, problem is this morning I woke with a cramp in my right calf and now when I walk I feel it as if something was pressed on it.

I would really like to run today as well

>Tl dr: cramp in right calf, ran yesterday, what to do?

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>>40509866

fatfuck detected

i hope you're successful in all the free smells you emit from the giant black hole you call an asshole

can we talk refeeds? I've read about it and it seems that they might promote fat loss? im not talking about cheat days but structured refeeds of 500 calories worth of carbs

>>40508394

The first few weeks you lose a lot of water weight as you get rid of all your glycogen stores. On keto you should still count your calories as that is the main thing for fat loss. The benefits of keto is that you're usually so satiated from all the fat that you're barely ever hungry. With IF I would set alarms to eat because I was never hungry

>>40509883
Rest days exist for a reason. If you're sore don't work out and let the muscle rest.

>>40509841
If a guy loses 100 pounds from 300 to 200 he deserves all the fucking respect. Progress deserves respect, just because someone doesn't have their dream body doesn't mean they haven't put in any effort. "Making it" isn't a single destination it's a line of progress with continuity.

>>40509946
Fuck that your body will still consume calories even if it's metabolism does lower - which it naturally should because your body gets smaller as you lose weight hence needing less calories.

>>40508697

Keto can actually be super cheap. Take it from a broke student who makes every meal.

Buy chicken thighs in bulk they're cheaper than chicken breast, tastier, and easier to cook. Cream and butter were a staple. Super easy to add cream or butter to anything for calories.

Whey and eggs for easy protein

You only need to hit roughly 0.8g/lb of lean mass and going over 1g does more bad than good generally for keto

>>40510049
>>40508697

Forgot to mention that I've personally never felt a mental drain on keto except when I overeat carbs. Some people will feel brain fog though but that usually goes away pretty fast as your brain adapts to using ketones better.

>>40510001
Well alrighty then thanks.

Speaking of eating, what do you guys suggest for breakfasts? I usually go with cereals but to eat a satisfying quantity of them one risks overeating.

Please no Oats, they taste like nothing.

>>40507544
my bag of mixed berries is 25 calories per 100 gr.
So 400 gr of berries would be 100 calories.
One scoop protein shake from my brand is 100-120 calories.
So a smoothie with 400 gr berries and a scoop of protein (and some calorie free coffee) is 200 calories, 220 if you want to be anal about it.
Even fatties can eat 220 in one meal.

>>40510118
You must have magic berries because the ones listed in calorie counters all check in higher.
Assuming your numbers are spot-on, it's a good substitute meal, no question.
But...
Fatties won't consider this a meal if they have been slurping down frappucinos, they will eat it as an add on "treat" and no fatty needs it.

>>40510148
>they will eat it as an add on "treat" and no fatty needs it.
True. But if they can eat it as a meal it is very satisfying. Since it's frozen the protein get released slowly, so you are full for a long time.

I used to live on two of these a day plus coffee all last summer. Worked out fine.

People always say that "if you don't continue what you do to lose weight, you'll gain it back" but is that really true?

I gained a shit ton of weight because I had surgery that made me immobile for half a year and decided to eat like shit during recovery. I didn't gain anymore weight after the initial gain. Once I lose weight I can start eating a bit more, right?

>>40510049
>>40510064
Thanks for the reply, anon. I'll have a go at keto starting tomorrow, since I carbed the fuck up today.

>>40510192
The difference between a meme diet and a lifestyle change is that the latter is sustainable to live on, while the first is supposed to be temporary. The part where most people fail is when they need to find a sustainable balance for the rest of their life without going too extreme and falling back to bad habits.

>>40510167
What brand of berries are you using, it sounds good to try.

>>40510192
Better to choose an eating plan that has healthy foods that you can adjust down or up to lose or maintain with for the long run.

>>40503997
That's a big loss so congrats to you, well done! How much do you have left to go?

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>decide to start eating healthier by replacing snacking with veggies and the occasional fruit (dont care much for fruit)
>buy some peas without thinking
>look at can while eating some to make myself happy im eating healthy
>80 calories per seving
>7 servings per can

>>40510416
That's 560 calories per can, what's the problem?

>>40510430
its a tiny ass can with barely anything in it when drained
its snack food tier small

>>40510416
>want to eat veggies
>buy legumes
idiot

>>40510279
it was strawberries and blueberries. More strawberries than blueberries which is why the cal is so low.

>brand of berries
Berries grow on plants, not corporations.

>>40510492
any good suggestions my dude
looking for low calorie alternatives because this rate i might as well eat fudge rounds

>>40510510
Buy fresh instead of canned. Buy actual vegetables instead of legumes.
Snack on carrots for example. They're 30 calories per 100 gr.
Why do you dislike fruit?
What are you looking for?

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>be me
>6'2" 360lbs
> do 5x5, weight and calculate all food eaten and drinks consumed to a t
>hit 336lbs
>somehow gain weight to 340lbs

How the fuck can you gain weight cutting if you are weighing all your food and counting every single fucking calorie entering your body

>anon you are not eating enough calories and your body is now in starvation mode and you won't lose weight anymore
>anon you are counting you calories wrong and need to go from 2k calories a day to 1700

Rrrrreeeee I just need some advice I'm sick of not making any progress in weight loss now. I've been doing my workouts for 6 weeks and made significant progress in the amount of weight I can lift but the weight on the scale is somehow staying the same or going up on a caloric deficit and it's really bugging me. Guide me fit I really want to make it and will continue to do everything I can to do so.

>>40510560
Yeah carrots will be fine. Any way to store them? I used to buy them quite a bit but theyd turn white and start tasting bad really fast

As for fruit im just not too sure. Apples just taste too tart, orange pilth really gets to me, peaches taste yucky without sugar, etc.
what kind of fruits do you suggest? something sweet would be nice

Guy I feel like a retard, how important is it to meet my recommended calorie consumption from MyFitnessPal?
I had 2 pancakes for breakfast, a huge salad wrap with tuna for lunch, had a cappuccino later, then had like 2 and a half servings of some soup I wasn't even hungry for to get my calories up and it still says I need 1300 more.
The pancakes weren't my idea and I wouldn't think of eating so much at dinner while trying to eat well, and the soup was just something my mum made when I got home. I'd normally eat something better.
My default is 1780 and it only added 500 after exercise and today I felt sick from the fucking pancakes so I didn't even give it my all.
How fucking important is it? Today was a one off for shitty exercise and not great diet and I still didn't meet the rec. What happens tomorrow when I give it my all and eat better?

>>40502870
I hope you are troling m8

>>40510583
>Apples just taste too tart, orange pilth really gets to me, peaches taste yucky without sugar, etc.
....
are you joking

Pears are like a sweeter version of apples. Maybe try those?
Melons are great.
Berries of all kinds.
Kiwis. Wait until they are ripe though, otherwise they are very tart.
Can clementines fix your orange problem?

I keep my carrots in the fridge, then take some with me in a box or small baggy for snacks. They keep very long in the fridge.
If they go bad very quickly you are storing them too hot and humid.

>>40510633
I wish I was joking, I really do. Ill try some berries out and I've never really looked at clementines.

Also I've been storing my carrots in the fridge so maybe its too humid in the fridge. Ill try to keep them in a sealed baggy this time to see what helps

thanks my dude

>>40510565
Could be a number of things like water weight or being due for a huge shit. 4 lbs is not a lot of weight and well within normal fluctuations. Are you weighing yourself at the same time (like first thing in the morning after taking a piss)?

Or you're actually eating too much. I've noticed that calorie counts on MFP are wrong pretty often, so check the packaging of your food and compare. Your TDEE goes down as you lose weight and you need to re-calculate every once in a while.

I would double-check that you're counting and weighing correctly, give it another week or two, and if you're still not losing, shoot for 300 cals or so less.

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87kg 180cm
in 2016 Ive been 98kg, I lost 8kg without lifting
Start lifting mid December I was 90kg.
Finally the winter is going away I will start baking.

Do you guys think is it possible till April to hit the 80kg mark?

>>40510684
7kgs in 5 weeks? Possible, but at your weight 1.2 kgs per week is a lot.

>>40510704
what do you mean a lot, like it is hard or it is not good for health to loose that much a weak?
I am thinking 3 day lifting week + cardio (walking, baking runing every single day) it is possible, even if I only cut sugar, fried food and breads from my diet.
I think if I maintain 2K calories a day I can make it, or I have to go much lower on calorie intake?

>>40510754
The (not very accurate) rule of thumb is 1kg of fat for 7700 calories. So to lose 1kg per week, you'd have to cut by 1100 calories per day.

https://tdeecalculator.net/result.php?s=metric&g=male&age=20&kg=87&cm=180&act=1.55&f=1
TDEE calculator puts you at 2950 per day (assuming you're 20 and moderate exercise), so at 2k calories you'd almost get there by April 1st, but not quite.

Don't just cut out specific foods, count calories.

>>40510815
ok I see know, so the game will be longer then.

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manlet lad here. 5 weeks, down about 8.6 lbs (196 to 187)
goal is about 175 lbs by the end of march! further, my end goal is 150 lbs by may or june (maybe july?)

caliper says i'm about 25% ish body fat so i'm not expecting any muscle definition but i'm a bit worried about ending up at 160-150 looking skinnyfat. should i do less cardio? am i losing weight too fast and could most of the weight im losing be muscle?

lifts (using exrx 1rm calculator)
bench press: 203 lbs (don't know if i could push 195)
squat: 366 lbs (though i would guess reality it would be maybe 335)
deadlift: 386 lbs (my guess would probably be around 365)

my bench press has always been pretty low.

thanks /fat/

>>40510919
Those lifts seem pretty bullshit if you ask me.

>go from 95 to 92kg in two weeks
>drink beer and eat cookies
>back to where I started

>>40502313
Dudes this is great, wish you all good luck and great progress. Just would like to share the folowing.

While I was not obese I was overweight, used to be 95kgs, now I am 73. If you feel up to it, or able, I suggest you look up intermittent fasting. Slow and steady guys, good luck.

>>40499260
>>40502400
That is still fat

>4 weeks in today

205 - 190
37' - 34.5' waist

i am the happiest i have been in almost 5 years, as i see no end in sight. this is all so normal now
thank you fatties

>still can't poop

worst thing have happened to better people
though i legit think i'd be another 3lbs down at this point if i could

think i may be allergic to kidney beans

>>40509903
>Comes to the fatty thread
>Is most likely fat, miserable, and has failed their current diet plan

Just pick yourself back up and get on the weight loss wagon, anon. No need to be shitty. This thread exists for you, too.

YOU CAN DO IT, BRUCEY!

>>40510988
If you're not allergic to pickles, drink a cup or two of pickle juice. If that doesn't jump start an ethnic cleansing in your bowels, you might have to have a C-Section. Just a caveat: If you aren't constipated and you drink pickle juice, prepare to piss out of your ass in 5 minutes for the next 2 hours.

>>40510954

I realize that. My lower body is a lot more developed than my upper body (though that isn't hard to do). The numbers I plugged into the calculator were

Bench Press 175 lbs 3x6
Squat 295 1x8 then 10x3
Deadlift 365 2x3

Following Candito 6 week.

I am not trying to lie on a thread that is only trying to help me.

>>40511035

i was granted mercy just after posting, took some senokol last night, guess it worked. 2lbs down, kek

pickle juice is a good idea for next time though. vinegar is free, right? i eat a lot of pickled cabbage with my chili, guess i could just drink the jar

>scale said 120-122kg at random times in the past
>Follow a 1500 calorie meal+fruit/cucumber/iceberg later in the evening
>45m exercise at home without tools etc
>scale says 117.5 after a week
Well i ll keep going like this, hope it wont slow down a lot after first week

>>40511081
>after a week
waterweight. It will slow down, but it will keep going down so don't give up.

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SW: 304 lbs
CW: 170 lbs
GW: 140 lbs

Can anyone estimate my bf% on the right? Thanks /fat/

>>40511081

i lost like 12lbs in my first 2 weeks, and it's been around 2lb a week since then

this is why people talk about the 2 - 3 week wall where 95% of people quit. just keep going when you hit this. fat loss is a marathon

>>40511116
Forgot to put my height: 5'5

>>40511116
Getting loose skin like that is my fear.

>>40511118
>>40511103
Aww that's ghey.

Oh well at least this diet doesnt feel bad so i can keep it up

>>40502313
why the fuck are there so many fatties here.

>>40511158
Just dont do it too fast and you're good.

>>40511187
I'm doing it so slow I actually gained weight back.
Started around 100, went to 81 and now I'm at 92.

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>2014
>be 350lb fat fuck kv
>now
>be 200lb fat fuck kv
>go to outdoor rave/concert thing
>dance with some girls
>hang out with some people
>normies friendly with me, blend in well
>later on in the night
>meet back up with some of the guys I had gotten a ride with, but then kinda ditched because there was only one girl in the group and desu the guys are kinda dorks
>girl had been pretty friendly to me all night
>she starts talking to me about going to this area where people were hanging out still playing music after the rave had ended
>sure, lets go
>boyfriend isn't coming with..
>nah fuck him, he'll catch up
>we get to the thing
>get to dance for a bit
>grabbing on her ass a little
>others from our group catch up
>cut her loose
>join a circle of black people on the dance floor who were, I joke you not, all standing in a circle singing fucking doo-wop and dancing

It's not much but it's a start, considering I had never even touched girls other than a handshake before last night.

Turns out normie advice about bee-ing yourself isn't all that bullshit after all. Once I stopped giving a fuck about what people thought about me, I was able to start making real changes in my life.

Then, once I was able to finally let go of the fat faggot I used to be, I was able to relax around people and just be friendly and have a good time.

All of this started because I stopped browsing /a/ and /v/ and started growing up.

Can't wait to see what life will be like after I lose another 20-50lbs of fat, and put on 10-50lbs of muscle.

Th-th-thanks /fit/

>>40511158
still better than fat, anon.

>>40511191
Obviously. Was not trying to shame that guy.

>>40511189
Aim for 1-2lbs/wk

>>40511116
>>40511153
>5'5

why even bother?

>>40511203
Didn't really feel like I was being shamed. If I knew my loose skin would be like this I would've done it a lot slower haha.

>>40511176
Have you never ventured out into the autistic wasteland that is 90% of this site? This board has the lowest density of fat losers of all and it's a new year.

>>40511228
>lowest density of fat losers
lol

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>>40511176
excuse me but where the fuck do you think we are?

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Here's a real good reason for going on a diet.

If you have a good job and are healthy and manage to live longer the higher the chances life extension pills and immortality will be invented and somewhat available within your lifetime.

Science is moving fast toward this.

It would be a terrible waste to lose eternal life because you were laze in one lifetime

>>40511251
>implying normies will ever be given life extension/immortality pills
>implying you'll ever see immortality unless you're listed in the NASDAQ

>>40511270
>implying tests arent being carried out right now
>implying if you actually have a good job you wont be able to afford it
If you dont waste your money on useless stuff like expensive cars etc it wont be that far away

Have read the sticky more times than I'd like to admit and yet my weight has only increased due to my own laziness.

I've realised that for me self hate only motivates me to start off with and after a few days I revert to unhealthy habits. Recently I've tried to be more positive about myself and weight loss results (I have the assumption even if I lose weight my body will still be 3/10) but also quite firm and critical when needed.

The combination of compassionate but not "soft" thought processes, meditation and exercise seems to be fuelling my weight loss goals.

For people who are overweight and prone to depression and anxiety you may find that developing a more balanced attitude is the only way you can make long term changes.

I have lost 10lb in three weeks, which is the most weight I have EVER lost.

Just thought I'd share.

5'8 - inb4 "hur manlet" - does not apply

SW: 191lb
CW: 181lb
GW: 140lb

>>40511368
>5'8 - inb4 "hur manlet" - does not apply
>does not apply

What the fuck do you mean.

You can't just say you're not a manlet and that magically switches the manlet cutoff from 6'2 to 5'8.

Top kek.

>>40511388
Use your brain.

>>40508908
Those pictures are nothing but calorie counting. No cardio, just a few months of not eating garbage. I just bought a bench and some plates and I'm going to start lifting on Monday.

>>40511424
Having a vagina doesn't disqualify you from being a manlet.

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>>40511251
Think you very much for this insight sempai!

>pic rel = thank you houndredfold

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>>40511449
I can live with that, just need to stop being a fat one.

>>40511368
>>40511424
>im a girl teehee

nobody cares

>>40509841
>you deserve no congratulations or respect
>implying I said/thought I did

>>40511495
Devito got dat powerlifter frame

>>40509866
Comparing getting fat to getting raped is a terrible analogy. The guy may be being a dick about it, but that's what some of us need. His point is valid. Halfway there is not accomplishing your goal.

>>40502505
Your pants could just be stretching. Jeans always stretch with wear.

>>40510049
>whey and eggs

Together?

>>40510095
I mix chocolate whey and frozen berries in my oats. It's delicious.

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Hey fellow fatsos!

Consider fasting. I'm fasting for four or five days now (one or two glasses of fresh squeezed orange and lemon juice a day, had a cheat day and ate a pineapple) and it's great!
The lard just melts off and I'm not hungry at all. I feel a wee bit weak but that might also be due to a little cold I'm fighting off right now.
Just remember to drink good amounts of water, that's essential!

My plan is to keep fasting on water until tuesday and see how that works out, sure can't hurt. Even though I've got that little cold right now, I feel pretty darn great.

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>Be former fatty
>Went from 140kg to 70kg
>Thought losing weight would make me happy
>It didn't
>Consider letting myself go again

>>40511639
No, you've just become normal sized, and normal sized people aren't automatically happy. Don't lose weight in the hope it'll make you happy, do it for your health's sake.

>>40511639
I went that route but got into old habits again.
Don't you even fucking dare doing that!

You'll bite your ass even harder a few years from now.

>>40511639
going back to being a fatty will just make you more depressed, focus on lifting and gaining muscle now.

Does anyone have experience with Bio-Oil as a cure for stretch marks?

a few q's : I'm stuck trying to get back in to my diet and my willpower was completely smashed after an ex showed up and rebuilt bridges then just forgot about me all over again.

I really love pepsi max and other zero calorie sodas. wat do? Drinking them on an empty stomach just make me crave food.

There's this low calorie hot chocolate thing that I've found helps with staving off hunger and it's still nice. "Cadbury's Highlights" without adding sugar or milk to it.

I've been eating tons of popcorn on days where I just want to binge like crazy, that good?
err.. I could make a huge blogpost about my diet and history but its very easy to say that my hunger is almost completely emotional and is based on being lonely and almost always when i think about relationships I just have the urge (no thought) to go to the kitchen and eat anything in sight.
However, in the morning I am completely logical about my food and can easily say no.

So my idea was to do IMF (Not for weight loss - just as a routine) so that I can stuff my face towards the evening and then go to sleep or lock myself in my room.

"Started" diet at 126kg, fucking up a bunch of times between jan 2016 and april 2016
Decided to go hardcore or not at all in june, and stuck to it for 4 months and I was incredibly energetic and happy and I didn't even think about relationships or girls or whatever.
It faded away the further into the summer it went though, idk.

Anyway. I'm 112kg now after attempting to starve myself completely for the last month but couldnt keep it up due to my family cooking and buying delicious shit all the time which i'd salivate over when i go to make drinks.

>>40511742
>I could make a huge blogpost about my diet and history but its very easy to say that my hunger is almost completely emotional and is based on being lonely and almost always when i think about relationships I just have the urge (no thought) to go to the kitchen and eat anything in sight.
>However, in the morning I am completely logical about my food and can easily say no.

Go grocery shopping in the morning, buy healthy shit only (nothing processed or high calorie). That way, you can go to your kitchen and stuff your face with everything in sight without eating a shitload of calories.

IMF is also a very good idea, do it.

>>40509841
this desu, first weight lost got me to chubby at best and I got drunk off the compliments. Then I started to lose focus and not count calories/letting them get to +-0. Only after summer I realized that fuck man, I still have a ways to go and got on with it. Don't be me, rise above.

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Are you guys working out during fat loss? If not, you're just gonna end up skinnyfat and looking barely better than you do now. Plus you're wasting time splitting two processes that can be done simultaneously.
You have massive amounts of energy already stored on you, all you need is some stimulation and adequate protein intake to build muscle on a deficit. You might not be gaining as much as a dedicated bodybuilder on a bulk, but you will see an improvement in strength and definition and will be in a much better starting place when the fat eventually comes off.

>>40511810
> not having negative pull ups as part of the progression

Can I just get a check on my current workout/diet?

>5ft7
>214lbs
>1300 cals per day (chicken, veg, low fat high protein)
>workout five times a week
>40mins cardio, 20mins lifting
>additional squats and core exercises before bed

I've been doing this for a month and my body has changed a lot, but my weight has not changed. Is there anything else I can do or anything I'm doing wrong? If I just continue, am I likely to see more changes in my weight? I see people on here dieting and losing 5lbs in a week and I can't help but think I'm fucking up somewhere.

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>tfw random pajeet approached me while I was on the eliptical
>started giving me advice about weightloss
>says lifting is better for weight loss, tries to give me his routine which he has printed out copies of for some reason
>say no thanks and that I have a workout to continue, put headphones back on
>tfw he was just trying to help me
>tfw shouldn't have been so dismissive

>>40511920
If your weight of 214lbs hasn't changed in a month you're doing something wrong. Are you sure you're not getting extra calories from liquids or measuring food wrong?

>>40512057
Unless he works there that's some next-level unsolicited advice.

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I hope you people at least sit when you pee.

Only unhygienic fucks pee standing anymore in their home or clean bathrooms

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>>40512057
>tries to give me his routine which he has printed out copies of
Sounds like a massive autist. I would have dismissed him as well.

>>40512057
Eh, I would have done the same thing but he's right. Don't do cardio only, lift. You can do cardio, too, but you burn more calories lifting. It also helps you maintain some muscle mass.

>>40512111
I unironically sit down to pee at home because I don't like turning on the lights when I go in the middle of the night and it's harder to miss that way.

>>40512111
I pee sitting because it is the superior method for peeing

1)Everything remains clean
2)You dont have to target
3)You dont have to check rate of stream and angle

Just pants down, sit, penis down, pee fast, done.

Though might just be related that i want to be a vagentleman.

>>40512057
While good for you, resistance training really doesn't burn a lot of calories compared to cardio

>>40512072

Absolutely positive. I weigh things and record them.

I've lost three inches off my waist if that helps?

>>40511787
Thanks. Any ideas for those kinds of foods?
I'm really.. spoiled and picky with my food.
Meaning my diet has mostly been potatoes and stuff since I was a babo. (britbong)

>>40512221
You said you're picky, what do you like to eat?

Potatoes actually aren't that bad if you don't smother them in butter or fry them or something. You can microwave a pound of potatoes for about 15 minutes (experiment, how long they need to be cooked depends on your microwave), peel them, and eat a pound of potatoes for 380 kcal.

If you like any veggies, they are low in calories pretty much across the board. Someone already mentioned carrots for snacking. Tomatoes are great, too.

>>40502400
Was 240 last year, got down to 200 by the end of the year, fucked off but down to 195 now. Trust me, once you get to 200 you'll wanna keep going. Maybe take a break from your diet for a while for sanity. I did, no shame in that. But once you don't look like complete and utter shit you're going to wonder what it's like to actually look good with your shirt off.

>>40502870
Seriously man, if you're not trolling you need to be cutting a LOT more. At least down to 180 but probably 150

>>40505532
>>40505545
What did you do to lose the weight? Any strength training? Also whens the last time you measured your bf% and what was it?

Raised my calories from 1800 to 2050 because I was losing weight too fast, just got that last bit to go. Planning on going camping soon I've never done that before and I'm gonna buy a new wardrobe of nice wool clothes after wearing nothing but cheap cotton t-shirts for almost 4 years

>>40502550
>I mean if you could do everything faster without any of those tools then we wouldnt be making those tools.

Because nobody makes money off you doing a push-up. Every year, hundreds of fucking stupid new pieces of "exercise" equipment are invented, and most should go straight into the garbage bin.

>>40502550
Only thing that really really helps if you own it is freeweights
Or if you care about safety a rack
Everything else is a meme

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>>40502313
Not obese but need advice
6'3 217 lbs, about 21% bodyfat

Would 175 lbs be a good weight to cut to before a bulk? I wanna get rid of as much fat as possible

>>40512393
1 pound? isn't that like 400 grams?
How the hell can 400 grams of potato be 380 cal
Maybe i misunderstand.

I am like that fatty fat fuck who threw up when she got near veggies. Not that bad, but I really don't like them at all. The texture is what gets me, not the taste.

Erm, I can't think of examples really. I'm cutting out cheese and butter and milk where I can now, and erm.. I guess snacks and meat and potato has been my diet since forever.
Like crisps, chocolate and whatever.
But crisps make me crave more due to how satisfying they are to "crunch" - there was a study on that or some shit.

>>40512477
Lost my first ~20 during 2013-14 with just intuitive eating, then stopped caring and plateaued/maintained from there. Last November I decided to become serious again. Pretty much just drastically cut the cola in the beginning (from 1-2 litres/day down to 2 0.33l bottles a week). Never counted calories for the most time, only started doing so a few weeks ago just for fun/to give myself an idea what I'm consuming and to calculate actual TDEE.
For exercise, I just go swimming once/week, 2-3km breaststroke (only one I can do). Then I get in 20-30km of brisk walks in the week.
Initially didn't plan to do any resistance, but realised I better do so to get away from skinnyfat, so about 4 weeks ago I started some bodyweight exercise at home (reddit's RR), which I'm now doing 3x/week, at my beginner stage (no dips/pullups yet) it takes a bit over an hour. I don't plan to get super ripped plus the nearest gym charges €70/month, so I'm not planning to pick up lifting anytime soon.
Never measured BF properly (DEXA or bodpod, shit's too expensive yo), all other methods give shitty values - Navy method puts me at 13-14%, my scale says 13.7%, calipers (3 point) 9-10% (lol), but I think more realistically I'm ~17-ish right now.

>>40510684
>>40510754
>baking

What did he mean by this?

>>40511251
>immortality

Unless I get to start over as a sixteen year old again, I'm good.

>>40512655
A ballpark number for bodyfat is good enough for 99% of the population. Unless you want to be a professional athlete it really doesn't matter.

>tfw fattest fuck on /fit/
i hate this feel

>>40510510
canned green beans instead of peas
pickles, cucumbers, carrots, broccoli (fresh or frozen), cabbage, celery, radishes, lettuce, zucchini, squash, tomatoes (fresh or canned), okra, bell peppers
any plant that is not a potato or bean or corn/grain or avocado will be low calorie. Even beans and grains if they are eaten plain will have some good nutrition in them. Some things don't taste as good as others but you have to kinda suck it up and eat them anyway because they will make you lose weight. Not everything you put in your mouth is going to be your favorite thing man

>>40512576
http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/calories-in-food/veg/potatoes.htm

It's 500 grams of raw potatoes. Look it up, they're not very calorie-dense unless you fry them or add fat. I looked at a different website before, so the number differs slightly, but the point stands.

The only downside is a high glycemic index, but that should be the least of your worries if you're usually eating sugary junk food with an even worse glycemic index.

> meat

What about chicken breasts (the non-breaded, non-fried sort)? Fairly cheap, low in calories, high in protein.

>>40512876
Isn't 18% roughly the healthy cutoff for males? Would make sense for me to be slightly below that now, as the belly fat (i.e. the dangerous visceral stuff) has recently gone away to an acceptable level

>>40511368
Sounds good keep it up breah. You will like your body more as you continue to accomplish your health goals. Sometimes my motivation flags and I am worried or sad about what I am doing and in those moments just trusting that your actions will pull you through to the next calm/motivated period is helpful.

Like forgetting that you have to give a shit or think about weight loss, and just doing the things you know you should be doing anyway. And then you wake up in a few weeks and it's easier.

>>40511639
losing weight doesn't make people happy. What you have done by losing weight is done yourself a favor by removing something you blamed your unhappiness on. Now you don't have your weight as a scapegoat which means you can be more in tune with what is actually going on in your mind. This is a good thing, please keep moving toward a greater understanding of your self.
Feelings of wanting to give up are normal, but that doesn't mean that giving up will help you feel better.

>>40511920
Perhaps see a doctor, if you are not losing weight and you are actually doing what you claim to be doing that sounds very odd. Do you feel any effects from the diet/exercise at all?

>>40511920
Weigh yourself and take bodyfat and waistline measurements

>>40512935
Also keep in mind the glycemic load and how that glucose is released into the blood stream

>>40513238
One thing at a time, no point to telling everyone to go on a bodybuilding diet that they won't be able to follow.

>>40502505
Weight isn't the most important measurement. Of course you'll want to lose weight when you're starting out but once you get serious you'll see the weight become less significant, as you build muscle. I'm 6'3" and used to be a 40" waist. Now I'm a 36" and my weight has only gone down a little, but I look 1,000x better. My pants are comically large now, had to buy new ones.

>>40505017
The only problem I have with coffee is that it fucks with my sleep schedule. As long as you don't have any trouble getting plenty of sleep, coffee can be pretty good. It's good for the metabolism too

>>40512935
Nuking vs boiling potatoes?

>>40512935
So what, just store bought potatos, clean them and put them in the microwave.. and that's a lot to eat compared to the calories consumed?

>>40513702
You can boil or bake them, too, it just takes forever.

>>40513726
Pretty much. You just need to get the timing right or they'll end up over/undercooked on the outside.

Currently 114KG, was 131KG last year, did this by watching what i eat more closely.

This year I want to start a weightlifting routine, I tried Stronglifts 5x5 but I don't think it's suitable for losing weight, with the linear progression of heavier weights very quickly outpacing my own development.

Should I still do Stronglifts/Starting Strength but just find what weights I can reliably lift, or is there some more suitable choice?

>>40513806
Just do it and try your best. Neural adaptation goes a long way, and you have a lot of mass to work with. You can get strong.

I'm 177 pounds and 5'7

HOW DO I LOSE WEIGHT

>>40513832
I'm more concerned with dropping fat first and building better eating habits before I gain muscle, which is why I was wondering if there's a better routine

>>40512393
>You can microwave potatoes for about 15 minutes

Or just boil them in water like a normal person.

>>40513841
You're gonna look like way more like shit if you don't lift when dropping the fat.
Routine doesn't matter much for beginners. Just lift weights and push yourself.

Ive lost 10 pounds since the New Year (Took 2 weeks off due to a road trip and demotivation but quickly got back on board) with super casual dumbbell/calisthenic training, (3 times a week) some occasional morning runs (1 - 3 times a week) and generally staying under/around 1500 cals. Mostly protein and veggies (I try to hit 90-110g of protein) with some oatmeal or yams or brown rice in the mornings. I have 1 cheat day a week, sometimes 2 where I usually hit 2.5k- 3k cals.

I feel satisfied with what little progress Ive made. I feel it on my body every now and then. However, Im open to scrutinization and criticism if Im doong anything wrong or if anyone has any tips for making progress faster or in the right direction.

I know dumbbells arent ideal but theyre all Ive got while I dont have a gym membership. I use a mix of exercises found in the sticky and other places on the Internet.

Should I be stepping up/down the protein intake? I weigh 150.

Are my carbs a deadly sin? They are delicious, even without sugar or any frying. Also, the fiber does magic on the toilet.

Are supplements/vitamins a meme for cutters like us?

Is nofap a meme?

Also, favorite ab exercises? I want to move beyond planks and crunches.

>>40511555

There is a huge difference in mocking fatties for being fat and mocking those that are trying. If them coming to a single fatty thread where they won't be discouraged by the elitist attitude of the rest of the board isn't affecting anyone, then leave them alone. Most people who come to this website are socially awkward and take advantage of the anonymity to ask dumb fitness questions that are geared towards their own journey. Telling them to be fat elsewhere isn't productive when all of /fit/ complains that fatties don't make an effort to change, and will be forever plagued by the sight of them.

Also, that comparison isn't terrible. Every trauma comes with a coping mechanism. Whether it's changing to get past it or deal with it. What's terrible is how some choose to deal with it. Food addiction is a real thing. Yeah, sure, you won't die like stopping cold turkey on heroin, but sugar can fuck you up if you stop instantly. Your gut biome will actually force cravings on you in order to get you to eat that sugar. If you're accustomed to having a certain amount of caffeine, just stop drinking it. The headaches can get brutal trying to wean yourself off of it. Not everyone can break food habits quickly.

>>40513840
Read the sticky u fat fun pos

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>>40513840
Read the sticky u fat fuk pos

>>40513840
EAT LESS YOU FAT FUCKING RETARD

>>40513752
What kind of potatos are we talking here?
LIke those small ones or the big ass ones?
I used to eat tons of them, never thought one handful of potato would be so little.
'Course I caked it in cheese so...

>>40512905
Stop comparing, the only one you need to compete with is yourself. Everyone starts somewhere, so just make your start and you'll see changes very soon. What's your plan?

>>40510565
I find having one cheat day a week where you eat whatever you want and as much of it as you want really helps keep my metabolism high. I dropped 60 lbs over 4 months no problem, and my cheat days would be 5000+ cals

>>40510653
Stay away from all sugar and artificial sweetener for a few weeks, all fruit will taste amazing

>>40513854
Boiling large potatoes takes an hour or so, or you need to cut them up first.

If I microwave them, they come out like baked potatoes, I have zero pots to clean up afterwards, and I can just have them for breakfast.

>>40514173
No idea, I just buy a cheap bag of potatoes. There might be fist-sized and tiny walnut-sized potatoes in the same bag. Don't think it matters.

I use the bike machine at the YMCA gym I go to. I use it for only 30 minutes and it tells me I biked 6 miles in that small amount of time. Is that actually good or should I be aiming for closer to ten miles?

>ate chicken for breakfest like 800 cal
>ate red meat for lunch like 1000 cal
>decided not to eat dinner as to not ruin my "cut"
>EAT A FUCKING SANDWICH LIKE A DUMB BITCH
kill me.

anyone have a recommended hummus recipe/storebought brand that's low calorie and tastes good with baby carrots?

>>40514881
That's probably still below maintenance if you're a fatty.

>>40515007
chickpeas, garlic, tiny bit of roasted sesame seeds, bit of salt.
Blend smooth.
Nom nom nom.

>>40515060
yea but i aim for under 2k my tdee is apperantly 3k