/fat/ Fatty General

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>can eat any amount of calories
>never once given in to hunger
>after a week of cutting, binge eat out of sheer boredom

literally why

>>40459203
don't get discouraged, we all fuck up sometimes. Just don't give up, you can make it brah.

>>40459151
Weigh in at 89kg at 6'3" about 20-25% bf.

Slowly getting there, come down from 100kg (higher end was 115 but not counting that as I wasn't actively trying to cut). Lifts are starting to stall and feel tired a lot. I keep diet in check most of the week but lose it every Sunday with DnD. Should I prep meals for Sunday and only eat those? Also, trying to cut my Pepsi max and whisky habit (at least 2 of each most days).

Interim goal is an inch off the waist to fit into my new suit by march 25th. Main goal is <80kg (or 10%bf/abs for the first time in my life) by around June/July.

i love fatty general.

>started at 339lbs
>now at 235lbs
I believe in you all keep up the good work.

>>40459243
good job
how long did it take you? any pictures?

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>>40459354
It took far longer than I care to admit because I fucked around too much. I'd say maybe a little over 2 years. I still have a ways to go i'm 6'1 so i think ideally 180-200 would be the weight i should shoot for.

>>40459404
Blaha?

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250 pound /fat/ here

I just got this and a bo-flex today

im gonna make it guys.

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I can't stop eating fast food.

I want to get gains but I just can't stop.

I want to die.

The week I decided to start losing weight, my family decided to eat out 8 times in 4 days. Are they setting me up to fail or am I just now noticing how much they eat out?

>>40459443
Why you gotta try and hurt me like that anon.

>>40459476
>bo-flex
the olyptical is good but bo-flex is cancer.

Post more fat dva

>>40459476
Not gonna make it.

Shouldve gotten a squat rack

Eat more protein if you're working out, it helps muscles but not only that it fills you.Up.lore than carbs. Also a gram of protein is 4 calories, gram of carbs is 4 calories. It's the fats you gotta watch out for when cooking meats.

>>40459595
Fucking phone autocorrect.

Fills you up more*

>>40459510
Why can't you stop? Are you buying your own food? Personally i only really control myself in the grocery store, can't suicide binge if you have only healthy food at home.

>>40459529
It's possible to eat at a deficit despite eating out, however its hard especially if you don't know in advance that you will eat at a restaurant.

>>40459203
Just start again tomorrow man don't give up.

>>40459595
So when i bake some chicken breast, it's better to cut out the white fatty stuff?
I've been cooking my meals for 3 weeks now, and never cut out the fat part because too lazy.

>>40459220
Do meal prep its one of the few reasons I have been able to stay consistent

And fucking stop drinking your calories man.

>>40459243
I love fatty general too one of the best generals in awhile

>>40459404
Doesn't matter how slow you go as long as you keep going

>>40459476
Damn looks nice man. The investment will pay off if you use it!

Down from 104kg to 83 here.
"Just" 23-27kg to go, still look like shit and men are still disgusted by me.

Even if I have an ugly face, if I'm 55-60kg, some guy must find me relatively attractive, r-right? I'm really demotivated.
Also, anybody else here can't really "believe" their progress? I went down two pant sizes (one brand, same cut) but sometimes I think "oh they've made the fabric stretchier". I can't see my body getting smaller so wearing smaller clothing feels weird.
/rant

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280 6ft here
down about 30
been doing SL and keto for a few months

Any suggestions on other weight routines?
I don't really give a fuck about strength, just want to look good once I lose more

>>40459151
I've lost 30lbs (230 to just under 200) and gained some muscle from bodyweight workouts. Feeling good.

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>>40460087
Keep it up my man!

>>40459510

You can stop you're just not trying hard enough.

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>>40459874

>Why can't you stop? Are you buying your own food? Personally i only really control myself in the grocery store, can't suicide binge if you have only healthy food at home.

I get hard cravings for hamburgers, greasy food, and the like. I do my own grocery shopping and know how to cook a meal but its almost like an addiction that I just keep going back too. It also doesn't help that I work overnights and get that same feeling around midnight with only fast food places opened.

>>40460048
>Also, anybody else here can't really "believe" their progress?
I don't until I realise some of my old jumpers are getting too baggy and making me look like a child in their older siblings' hand-me-down clothes.

>>40459967
If its just a small amount I wouldn't worry too much about it but if theres like big blobs of white fat cut it off

>>40460112
What you can do is meal prepping, take meals to your work so you don't get tempted.

>>40460048
Have you taken pictures? Do you measure your body frequently with a measuring tape? Do that it makes believing your progress easier

>>40460112
meal prep is working well for me. i'm a lazy fuck so i make good meals that are healthy. i then exploit fact that i am to lazy to get a fast food meal or cook so i just microwave the healthy prepared meal.

>>40460016
Thanks anon, i've lost more weight since that picture already so I'm gonna keep going until i'm at my goal. I've really started taking it seriously and weight is just falling off so i'm very confident im going to be at my goal weight by the end of the year or sooner.

>>40460208
I haven't measured, and got a few old pics but none of my worst times.
I mean I can see a bit that my tummy has sunken in more, I've gone from a C cup to a B and my butt has an hero'd but I'm still really fucking fat. I guess this is just the frustration from how long it takes but I'm scared to never be able to reverse the harm I've done.

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I wish I had better before pictures. I think part of the reason I don't is because I really doubted my ability to even drop the weight in the first place.
Top left corner is from May 2015 I weighed 304 pounds
I started counting calories with little excersize and got to about 270ish at the bottom left corner of about October or November of 2015. I joined the gym last January and began to become extremely motivated with weightlifting. Both after pictures were taking at 195 in October. I'm 5'11

>>40460340
wow dude thats incredible, very inspiring transformation.

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Lost around 20 kg (44 lbs) since i started losing weight a year ago(started 17th of february 2016 cause I had the flu and did not want to regain my water weight loss). Slow progress is still progress. Aiming to lose another 30kg. We are all gonna make it.

i wanna buy containers for meal prepping but everything on amazon looks like it falls apart after 1 use or is super expensive.

Is fat free natural yogurt + berries a good snack to deal with the hunger cravings? It's what I've been doing. Yogurt is good for protein right?

>>40460786
I have been using some generic ass ikea containers for years, just make sure they are safe to microwave.

>>40460876
No ikea nearby, i will look for boxes next time i go grocery shopping, otherwise i just buy cheap ones from amazon and hope they are less shitty than they look

>>40460399
That is an amazing job!

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My progress. Started at 300 on the dot in August. Now at 263 and still dropping.

>>40461177
Thanks

>>40461537
what happened in December? also nice

>>40460278
>this is just the frustration from how long it takes but I'm scared to never be able to reverse the harm I've done

Very relatable. Thats the hardest part of weight loss to be honest. Heres the thing though you have two choices:

1. Give up and be fat and unhappy for the rest of your life
2. Keep going and be fat for awhile but you're constantly shrinking, constantly improving.

You're gonna be fat for awhile regardless, just choose to eventually be healthy and then work for it.

>>40460340

You look great bro mirin' hard

>>40460399
You look a lot better less rolls is always the goal, keep it up!

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Hello! How have you been, fatbros?

Today it was a good day, I was having little caloric value in the food I was eating, I was drinking enough water, etc...

But then, I went out with some colleagues to eat and we got BBQ chicken wings (I ate 6).
I'm at the moment at 660 calories more than I should have eaten today...

In some time (in about 2 hours) I will go and make some exercises, and will only consume for dinner a cup of tea, so hopefully I will even out the calories I shouldn't have eaten doing that...

>>40460848
Check the sugar content

>>40459203
Don't worry friend with bene/fit/. We all fuck up sometimes. I just ate like 20 brownies just cause they were there. Not fat, but still tryna make good gains. Simple carbs are not ideal for gains.

>>40461537

Nice job holding it relatively together during the holidays! Also February looks like its been a good month

>>40461889
Shit happens man at least you're being proactive about it. Were the wings good at least?

>>40459203
You could have been cutting too hard.

>>40461915
>20 brownies

Dude please tell me thats hyperbole

Hey /fatty/ had a pretty good day. Eating well under TDEE and went to the gym and ran 45 minutes which is 10 minutes longer than usual! Going to see a movie with a friend later and am going to treat myself to some skittles.

I've noticed my underwear fits better and my sweatshirt was even looser than usual. We're all gonna make it :')

Pic related its my workout today

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>>40462017

Forgot the pic lol

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>calculator says tdee is 3848
>should be cutting at 3348
>am actually working with a total of 2300
Am I cutting to hard?

I've been dieting+exercising for about 3 weeks now and haven't noticed any weight loss.

I'm doing SS, no GOMAD, and C25K.

TDEE calculator puts me at 2600, and I've been eating ~1600. I'm tracking meticulously and I'm not seeing any difference in weight. I am seeing a huge difference in strength and endurance though, so I'm not giving up. It's just kind of disheartening to not see any weight difference.

>>40462042
I would go up a little to like 2500-2700 just so you don't end up giving up because youre too hungry

>>40462085
You're probably replacing fat with muscle. Give it time you'll lose weight but just know that you are indeed making progress?

How much do you weigh?

>>40459595
Low fat is the worst diet one should do desu
https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/comments/524in8/warning_about_eating_enough_fat_from_someone_that/
Sure fat has the most calories/gram out of all the macros, but it's also the most satiating which outweighs that

>>40462127
5'11 240lbs.

I'm also having an allergic reaction to something I've been eating. I can't stop shitting and I don't know what's causing it.

>>40462042
How much/fast are you losing? TDEE that high is probably not calculated correctly.

>>40462196
Yeah you're getting close to a normal weight for your height so I wouldn't worry too much just keep doing what you're doing

What are you eating? I eat a lot of beans and my digestive system hates it but protons am I right?

>>40462042
Hard to tell since calculators aren't reliable when you're fat.
Track your progress over a month, you generally don't want to lose more than 1kg a week.

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lost 40 pounds in the last several months. markers are down to normal non-elevated levels in my blood work, blood pressure is down, I'm almost down into overweight BMI instead of obese, people at work noticed and said I'm looking better, and /fit/'s fat hate threads actually really helped motivate me.

>>40462236
I'm just eating a lot of chicken breast + rice and home made salad (just romaine lettuce, spinach, onion, and tomato) with no dressing.

Maybe it's because I tried the sip meme recently, and my body fucking hates energy drinks.

>>40459510
You can stop. Every day, every meal is a new opportunity. Every good choice is one less bad one. Just make some baby steps at first, that's ok. Just start making one better food choice per day.

>>40462249
>you generally don't want to lose more than 1kg a week

Idk man, a lot of the weight I have lost, which is 40kg at this point, and I am currently at 78 were lost in short bursts of very low calorie consumption.

I lost a lot over the summer where I didn't have school to attend to so I could basically focus all of my energy not eating, it worked very well and I lot a lot of weight during that time.

Now of course that is not feasible in the long run, but if you have a the ability a hard cut, especially at the start of your dieting was at least very useful in my own anecdotal experience.

>>40462290
Nice work man!!! I can't weight to get to the overweight BMI instead of obese lol

I think I'm only eating like 1300-sh calories a day lol but I feel stuffed.

Thank you based cruciferous veggies and shit. I just ate three whole bowls of the shit I made for dinner and according to myfitnesspal it was like 350 calories. Other thousand or so calories for the day were from very filling oatmeal this morning, then snacking on almond butter cause it tastes good. Should probably try to avoid that though, at like 4 tablespoons and made my stomach kinda hurt.

>>40462297
Cut the energy drink and if the problem still persists then it might be something you're eating. Also IMHO just drink water its not worth it.

>>40462343
Oh yeah guess I should have a point to this post.

6'4" somewhere around 260 right now. Aiming for (eventually) like 190, then lift and build muscle back up to like 200-215. Too old to get really big though unfortunately.

>>40462303
Love this

>>40462297
Nigga if you aren't lifting a lot right now I would not be consuming rice on the regular, it's pretty hard to find something that is more calorie dense / gram

>>40460848
Yeah, just plain low fat yogurt with berries is great.

And in summer or generally when you are craving ice cream take frozen berries, some artificial sweetener and yogurt and put it in a mixer.

>>40462431
I'm lifting and doing C25K, and I'm also measuring to make sure I'm not getting too much.

>>40460848
Depends. I eat 1200 calories and low carb. I can eat 1/2c of unsweetened Greek yogurt and 1/4c berries but nothing sweetened with sugar and I can't eat more berries than that. Other snacks are often more filling for the same numbers of calories/carbs. Depends on your plan.
Yogurt with sugar isn't a very healthy food at all.

>>40462364
Why not start lifting now? I'm taller and heavier than you are and I've been lifting for a few weeks now. Already seeing progress in my lifts and dropped about 15 pounds all while my diet hasn't been amazing.

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How do you deal with emotional eating? Just got out of a 2 year relationship (first one at that) and I want to eat everything in sight.

>>40462779
Emotionally drink water

>>40459476
>that thing of sweet tea

Whew lad

>>40462779
Use it as motivation. If you start thinking about it things or feeling feels, go for a walk or go to the gym. You'll get through it in time anon.

>>40462779
Here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mbp0DugfCA

>>40462779
Resist it and become skinny and fabulous from pure spite.

My problem is i get bored and eat unhealthy food. I never feel like i need to but when i am bored i don't even care. How do i solve this?

>>40462884
How old are you? What are you doing with your life that allows you to regularly become bored?

>>40462884
Take up a brand new hobby that requires daily practice. Photography, calligraphy, origami, zentangle, something distracting that you can easily do in a minute when bored.
Chew gum, brush teeth, eat a sugar-free mint.

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>>40459151
336lbs fat phuck here. On my 5th week of 5x5 now and making some decent progress but weight loss is slow. Normies keep telling me to replace strength training for cardio to lose weight but I really don't want to do I'm finishing the 12 weeks of 5x5 and then moving on to PHUL.

>>40463004
How tall anon? Do cardio and some accessories as well as 5x5.

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>>40459151
Can I ask a possibly stupid question?
I didn't want to start a thread for it;
Can we lose fat just by lifting weight and changing our diet?
also if we do cardio and lifting weight on the same day, wich one is the best to begin with?
Sorry for the autism, I'm a just a fat noob!

>>40459151
>fell off the wagon for about a week
>bloat added 7 lbs
>feel disgusted with myself
>husband agrees to help me get back on track
>I was good yesterday and on track to being good today
>Instantly feel better

It's amazing how different I feel now that I've lost 46 lbs. I notice when I gain even a little weight a lot more.

>>40462938
I am 20. Going to college and sitting home all day.

>>40463012
I am trying to keep myself busy, playing games, watching movies and tv shows but eventually i get bored. I enjoy eating. When i am bored and hungry i just can't help it.

Oh god what the fuck

Please just stick to fat wojacks or something, fetish shit is gross

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175cm and started at 96kg (211 pounds) now I am 73kg (163 pounds)

Is this what making it feels like?

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>>40461941
Actually they were very tasty! But in hindsight they weren't worth it...

Next time I will just go to grab some coffe (black, of course!)

>>40463127
It is.
175cm started at 86, now 70. Gonna go down to 62-65 and start bulking.
We are gonna make it anon.

>>40463063
You don't even need to work out to lose fat, all you need to do is eat less calories than you burn. Some people like to do cardio first as a "warm-up" but it really is just preference.

>>40463126
nobody was making a god damn new thread and all i had was fat dva

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>>40463127
How did you made it?

>>40463220

Only ever drink water, nothing else, soda is bottled diabetes avoid it like the plague.

Make an actual fitness plan, lifting needs to be a staple and put some cardio in it, for example I jog 3.5km every night.

Record your progress, don't go overboard though my dude. Take photos of your progress too, they will help with motivation. I also highly recommend checking out other peoples progress images, and there are some really good You Tubers out there too, I personally watch NavaTheBeast & OmarIsuf.

Also, don't cut down your portion sizes like crazy yet, slowly work into it, otherwise, if you run in cocked and ready to rock you will feel like a bottomless pit and eat like starved dog.

Godspeed Anon, start today and never give up.

>>40463127
How long did that take? I'm at pretty much the same height, started at 200lb half a year ago, down to 175 now. But I didnt start cutting calories until January as I just did strength training.

>before
>can't even squat my own weight or do a single chin up
>now
>235 5x5 squats and can do multiple chin ups and pullups

I love my arms, muscles actually showing when I flex them and I casually do negatives and chin ups since my squat rack is in my living room whenever I walk around. I dont expect to increase my weight liftingwhile cutting, aiming for 150lb.

>>40463063
If by changing diet, you mean just eat healthier without cutting calories, no. It would be nice but the reality is that you need to eat at a calorie deficit. The good news is that it doesn't have to be a huge one. Aim to lose 1-2 pounds per week.

I do a cardio warmup, my weight circuit, then swim laps 3x/week alternating with cardio + Pilates 3 other days per week, resting one day per week.

>>40463372

It has taken me around 7 months, but I only started seriously exercising around November last year, got some money for weights and stuff.

Damn dude that is some hectic progress, I went from 5 push ups to 40, puffing after 500m now doing 3.5km (roughly 2.2 miles) so I have made some half decent progress.

forget all this fucking bullshit about will and determination you guys want some fuckin hard useful advice, get a vape. nicotine will curb your hunger and also keep you from eating out of boredom.

>>40463478
fighting one addiction with another is just retarded

>>40461676
Winter break. No uni gym available and no longer had to walk 7+ miles to class everyday

>>40463524
>getting addicted to it
mada mada

>>40461537

What website/app/program is this my dude?

Does being sore after working out mean I'm making progress?

>>40463608
Yes, your muscles are meant to be sore or tired. After working out you should have a rest day if it's sore/tired though.

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>>40463326
Thank you! For a few days now I have been eating less, drinking water, exercising, etc...

I have been posting progress in this threads since the first one, I will keep on doing this 'till I'm fit or die, that is why I took a name, to let anons notice the progress and possibly motivate a few ones, thank you very much for your answer!

>>40462798
>>40462830
>>40462835
>>40462841
thanks anons

>>40462835
This motivates me. I'm not heartbroken, but I want a gym qt as my getting /fit/ reward

>>40463636

No worries mate, be sure to test your starting performance, I'd suggest you record how many push ups you can do, how long you can plank, how far you can jog and all that good stuff as soon as possible, that way you can look back and see how much you have improved in the future.

Keep us posted with progress my dude.

>>40463594
Myfatnesspal

>5'2 and was 196 pounds 3 months ago
>Have been struggling to lose weight for 3 years
>joined a small gym
>I have no idea what I'm getting into
>Personal trainer hell yeah
>work out 3 times a week, an hour session
>workouts are very hardcore
>the first two months I literally lost nothing because I still ate fast food and shitty food
> the third month I took my diet seriously and now I've dropped 6 pounds and a few inches off of my waist, arms, thighs and even an inch around my neck.
>into my fourth month now and I dropped 4 more pounds.
>I'm struggling not to dive into the temptation to go back to Mcdonalds or BK since I've lost all that weight.
>fml

>>40463880

Kek, cheers mate.

>>40463636
Eating less... if you are the 'oops, I ate wings' guy? Isn't that a cheat barely 2 days in? I'm all for progress reporting but if you are going to be inspiring others shouldn't you be getting your own program more solid first?

Maybe I'm just sour and not wanting these threads to break down into 'the fat diaries', cheerleading every fall off the wagon and trading cheat meal reports. When I see >>40459476
and the sweet tea and >>40459510
With literally no motivation, I fear for the direction of these threads, anons.

>>40459967
I cut it all off because I find it disgusting to bite into and it's easier to see and cut on raw chicken than cooked. I use sharp shears and it's quick. I roast a big pack of skinless breasts once a week or so for my fiancé and I and then use the cooked pieces for lots of dishes.

Feelin good lads. Down 15 lbs so far, had a job interview today that went pretty well, and i'm just under my calorie limit.

We gonna make it.

So I've heard that squats are basically the dream exercise. Would it be worth it to get a rack with some barbells and weights?

>>40464217
yes. You'll be able to do a lot more than squats with a rack. if you get on of the tower racks (best for working out alone but more expensive) you should get a bench and you'll be able to do almost every exercise that you can do with a bb

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>>40464217
Power rack + barbell + weights + bench will get you very far.

>>40464262
>>40464284
The price of the Gold's Gym stuff from Walmart looks appealing. Are they good, or trash?

>>40464284
lol the fuck are these prices

>tfw $200 for bench, bar, rack and weights

thanks craigslist

>>40464335
link it

>>40464472
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gold-s-Gym-XRS-20-Olympic-Workout-Bench-and-Rack/5280822
Dunno if the bench can be adjusted to be flat or not, and I don't think it comes with a barbell and weights, but $175 for all that looks nice.

>>40464524
That's a pretty good price i think. Just be careful on your first time lifting, you should start with the bar and add more if you feel you can do it. I strained my delts putting barely any weight on before. the barbells weight 45 lbs

I'm just looking for some tips!

I'm crippled (left side was paralyzed when I was three, caused a lot of body development issues and my left leg is a full inch shorter than my right)

I had major surgery and was immobile for an entire year because of it (and because I broke my leg immediately after recovering) and went from 200 to 250 during that time.

After three years I've finally decided to get back to being under 200 pounds.

I've cut soda out of my diet and I don't plan on eating fast food for at least a month and a half (going on vacation in April so I'll probably be eating more than I am now and some fast food, I'll try to keep it to the minimum atm).

My diet is:
Breakfast: Serving of cheerios
Lunch: Either Chunky Soup or a can of chicken
Dinner: Literally just a serving or two of whatever I have
Snacks: A cup or so of mixed vegetables between meals (usually one a day between either breakfast -> lunch or lunch -> dinner)
Drink: 400 - 500 oz of water a day and a pot of homebrewed green tea.

Exercise routine: Like I said, I'm a cripple so I can't walk very far without being in pain and my arms are pretty weak because of it too.

No matter what intensity I tire after five minutes, so I usually do the highest intensity on my elliptical (which I can do for a bit over five minutes).

What do you think, /fit/? I'd like to mention that I did this exact same thing five years ago but without vegetables and without the green tea and I lost 40 pounds.

>go to my last class of the night
>two people randomly come in and bring free donuts
>really wanted one
>didn't do it

I still have a long way to go but it felt good not giving in to my fatty instincts.

Would an apple and a peanut butter and banana sandwich on wheat bread be a good lunch, or do I need to go fitter?

>>40464665
depends on what else you eat throughout the day

2 slices of wheat bread 140-160 calories

apple 90-120 calories

peanut butter 1tsp 95 calories
90-120 calories

500 calorie lunch whatever so long as your other meals make up for how much calories you should or shouldn't be consuming

>>40459404
I see ICC is working Jason

>>40464561
>Breakfast: Serving of cheerios
stopped reading

>>40464524
>>40464556
Would that and just few additional things suffice for doing stronglifts?

>>40464712
What the fuck is wrong with cheerios? It's a fucking delight and helps lower my cholesterol.

>>40464561
If you're crippled, you need to talk to a physical therapist about getting an exercise routine that fits what you're capable of.

For food, just watch your calories and increase your protein if you can. Calories #1 though.

>>40463995
Keep it one hunnit

>>40464806
>For food, just watch your calories and increase your protein if you can. Calories #1 though.
I'll probably switch Cheerios to two eggs since >>40464712 here seems to hate cheerios and that'd be more protein.

Anyone here took Adipex? Idk why my doctor is such a bitch about prescribing it. There's virtually no side effects and as long as you keep yourself busy, you won't be hungry and you won't notice it.

>>40462042

If you feel fine and the weight is coming off, I'd say keep it up.

>>40464760
Why don't you eat oats instead? Throw some fruit in and you can add variety.

1.5 weeks going strong. I barely started ik but I'm fucking proud because you all know how hard it is to start this shit. Night munchies are getting less severe and I'm getting less dependent on distracting myself with Matt Stonie vids.

>>40464931
Any brand you suggest? Also a lot of people say that "cheerios are bad because the portions are too small to fill you up and to fill you up you'd need at least three portions" but I'm literally solid with a single serving of cheerios for at least 4-6 hours. Not sure what these fools are talking about.

>>40459151
>this is /fit/ in 2017

>>40464980
>this is a perfect body in 2027

>>40464975

Steel-cut oats are the most filling.
They are pain to clean up after though.
>>40462042
Your TDEE is not 3848 unless you're a fat muscle guy in a hentai. Choose Sedentary for your activity level always.

I couldn't get a reply in the other thread

So i will begin keto diet, 1500 calories a day.

Do i need multivitamins? If so which one should i get?

Does diet soda effect keto?

>>40464994
RMR+TEE-500 is easier to get right and just werks. TEF and NEAT are basically impossible to get right every day. If this is too hard change it to -250.

Takes the guesswork out of TDEE. Just record food and exercise. Lose about a pound a week.

i was on keto for 2 weeks and just recently got knocked out of it because i gave in and ate shitty foods

went from 196lbs to 180 and now im back up to 185

gonna start again tomorrow but i fucked up big time

How do I avoid giving in to temptations while on vacation?

It's fucking Disney World how can I not eat a mickey pretzel and dolewhip and their foodcourt shit?

>>40464816
Well damn someone has to. Threads are mostly good so far, and that's saying something here.

>>40460340
Atta boy. I'm 6'1 270, shooting for about 200. How's your loose skin? That shit worries me, but in the end it's better to have loose skin than 70lbs of fat filling it I guess

>>40463897
Girl or super short? If girl were super similar in weight/height

>>40465186
enjoy yourself its a vacation, kill yourself afterwards

>>40463995
>not wanting these threads to break down into 'the fat diaries', cheerleading every fall off the wagon and trading cheat meal reports.

I fear this too I don't how to be supportive but like not welcoming people who aren't serious about this. These threads have been very motivational so far but I do fear it could turn into something bad and whiny

>>40464637
I feel that too its really gratifying when I don't give in too

>>40464965
>Night munchies are getting less severe

Night snacking is what kills me every time I tried to lose weight before but ever since I started eating a shit ton of protein I feel so full I don't want to eat at night

>>40464980
Whats wrong with it? Tbh were not doing much different from the other threads in terms of advice and whatnot

>>40465027

Don't know about the vitamins but don't drink any type of soda even if its diet

>>40465186
Just eat lighter meals throughout the day and then treat yourself to a mickey pretzel. As long as calories in is less than calories out you're fine

>>40465218
I think hopefully the other /fit/izens will keep /fatty/ threads from becoming a safe space for fattys to be coddled after failing again and again

We have fph threads on the same page as /fatty/ general so hopefully that keeps the worst of the fattys in line

>>40463012
6'2" and no accessories or cardio because I work out with 2 buds and they hate cardio.

>>40465263
What? Are you some poorfag who can't afford Disney?

>>40465404
Is everyone here autistic to the point where they take everything literally?

>>40464980
Everyone has to start somewhere, I'd rather this than another troll thread

>>40465763
agreed. Also if just one of 10 fatties that check out this thread make it i would consider it a success.

Started going to gym not too long ago, trying to lose fat. Few questions:
People say it's bad to do cardio after lifting. True? Should I just lift and not do cardio?
What is low intensity cardio? 7% incline 3.5mhp counts as low intensity for 25-30 min? Is that type of cardio best for weight loss after workout?

>>40465797
the point of cardio is to get your heartrate up and keep it there for a while. Your target heartrate depends on depends on your age and how fit you are. So nobody can really tell if your cardio is effective or not by just posting your stats.

If you do cardio before or after lifting is really just preference.

>>40465797
>>40465894
Cardio is best afterward, both for safety reasons and for recovery. If you really want to do it beforehand, keep it low-intensity strictly to warm up for lifting. You can injure yourself if you blow all your energy on the fucking elliptical and try to do squats afterward.

>What is low intensity cardio?
The intensity can be measured by your heartrate, which is dependent on age and how much a fatty you are. If you're 500 pounds, a brisk walk can be medium-intensity. At 250 pounds, you won't even break a sweat.

>>40466166
>>40465894
I'm 22, 6 feet and 219 pounds. At 7% and 3.5mhp my heart rate gets higher but I just started doing cardio so I don't really know if it's getting high enough. Is there a way to tell during exercise without buying extra equipment?

>>40465186
Had just a short glance at a few of the many restaurants, cafes, taverns etc at Disney World (including some newly opened and limited time places) and discovered A) there are a lot cooler theme items to eat than the ones you mentioned and B) many of them had healthy options for several diets, Keto, low carb, low calorie, low fat etc. it's possible to do Disney World and stay on a basically good diet, still indulging in a few treats.
But if you want to justify eating shitty food because 'muh vacation' then sure, go ahead. Most people are excited about the experience, not looking for souvenirs to eat.
All those choices and 'wahh Mickey pretzel' really, really?!?

>>40466200
most of the machines will have metal handles that you grip for a few seconds, then they'll display your Heart Beats per Minute. Most cardio machines in your gym should have it.

>>40466493
Damn they do. And there is heart rate display on them too. Thanks I'll try it

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I'm going to be under 300 in a week or so, I haven't really been excited since I started changing my diet until now, just been afraid I've been going to blow it. I don't know how long it's been since I've been in the 200s. I still have so much more to go, but getting under 300 would mean I've turned back the past 3 shitty years of my life, with 5 more shitty years of damage left to reverse.

>tfw nothing will reverse the emotional damage

I started at 320 pounds in August of 2016.
I am now 254 pounds just from cutting. Haven't set foot in a gym the whole time but I have been playing ice hockey 2-3 times a week.

what'd you fat fucks have for breakfast?

I had a breakfast bacon toaster from Sonic with a black coffee. Should hold me over until dinner time.

>>40465359
Add in cardio. Even if you do some in the beginning and intermittently throughout the workout. I add it in every time I need a bit of a break. And get in some accessories as well.

>>40461889
Do what I do. If I eat too many cals one day I I divode the number by two and eat that many fewer cals each day for the next two days.

In other words just eat 330 fewer cals tomarrow and the day after.

>>40462779
Realize that nobody likes a little bitch. And they especially hate a fat bitch.

>>40466885
>>tfw nothing will reverse the emotional damage

Therapy

>>40466980
Nice job man!

Ice hockey 2-3 times a week sounds like a great workout who cares if its not "in the gym"

>>40467011
>I had a breakfast bacon toaster from Sonic

Sounds bad man

I had two scrambled eggs and some coffee

>>40467288
not that bad.

the bread is a little heavy, but I still get my eggs, a little bit of protein from the bacon & cheese, and then the sourdough toast.

as far as fast food breakfast goes, I'd say it's the most bang for the buck, 'cause you get like 4 strips of bacon up in that bitch, and they actually pepper their egg while cooking.

>>40459151
hi guise, i've been chubby my entire childhood, reached puberty, started taking it seriously, been a rugby player since 5, around 15 begin gym, feels good man, top of my performance at around 18, training 4 days a week at my rugby club, 4 days of gym, those gains, not su much aesthetics but performace (rugby actually requires a lot of endurance, 90 minutes running, not like hand egg), 182 cm 110 kg, not ripped but muscular. Began university, MFW it's rugby or studies, also i was already tired, stop doing everithing, just going to gym 3 times a week in neet mode. gain 30 kg the first year, al gains gone, became a blob. 6 years pass, became engineer, start crossfit almost a year now, eating healthy, currently 125 kg, feels good. A long way to go, but i found out that it's easier to get in shape if you were once in shape, deep in your soul there's the habit of exercising and knowing what it feels like to be sore and so on. Should i aim for around 110 kg? i am a big guy, with a big frame and also was clinically heathy at that weight but almost 10 years ago. For my heaight i should be around 80 kg but i'd look auschwitz at that weight

>>40467011
Air and a little water. That sandwich doesn't sound like it fits a good diet, too high carb for a low carb plan, too high fat for a low fat plan, too calorie dense for a 1200-1500 calorie per day plan. How does it fit?

I'm sorting out a cutting diet I can stick to so I'm wanting to try a few fasts and very low calorie days (500) to see if I can get on with a low carb 5:2 IF plan or a OMAD plan or if several meals on steady 1200/day plan will work best.

I'm not prone to binging so OMAD actually sounds hard. But I'm not a snacker/grazer so the 6 small meals per day thing seems excessive.

General question for all: What diet plan do you use?

>>40467403
Eat less calories. Prioritize protein when possible.

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>>40466885
>>40467267
>emotional damage

try mindful meditation

whenever I'd be tempted to go out and grab a pizza, I'd sit down and meditate, letting all my fatlogic and ex-fatty thoughts/compulsions/emotions bubble to the surface of my mind and slowly evaporate

after around 15 minutes of meditating, I'd feel fine and no longer want that pizza

pic related, it's all the pizzas I didn't get

>>40467403
I'm not a manlet, so my calorie count for the day is just over 2k to still lose weight.

>>40467403

IF, 1.4 - 1.6kcal, at least 75% clean (i just ate fish sticks... it fits my calories). maintenance day once a week where i eat lots of carbs

don't really track macros, just aim to get plenty of protein and fiber

>>40467326
I've never had it but it sounds high in fat and simple carbohydrates so...

Why don't you just make breakfast at home so you know wtf is in it?

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went to my dentist today, she asked if i lost wait

>>40467429
That sounds simple and good, how long on it and how's it working?

>>40467476
Grills need a lot less :^)

>>40467491
I need to read more about IF, I'm trying different fasting times/amounts. How much weight have you lost on this plan?

>>40467375
>but i found out that it's easier to get in shape if you were once in shape, deep in your soul there's the habit of exercising and knowing what it feels like to be sore and so on

I feel this as well I got really /fit/ around 4 years ago so I know that I am capable of more than I am right now so that's what keeps me going.

Also, reach a healthy weight first and then it's really up to you what weight you feel most comfortable. I'll be at a healthy weight for my height at 145lbs and after that I am just gonna see how I feel.

>>40467512
'cause it's only 3.50, gets cooked for me, all the nutritional information is online, and it's on my way to work.

>>40467403
>What diet plan do you use?

I don't use a diet plan I have just cut out most simple carbs and focus on protein primarily and vegetables. Cut out all drinks except water as well.

>>40467531

started 3 weeks ago, 206 - 190lbs

usually start eating about 3pm. sometimes eat all of my calories in that 1 meal. IF is great

>>40467443

Does the meditation meme actually work? Also, wanted to yell at you for posting pizza in /fatty/ but the pizza looked gross anyway

>>40467521
>wait

>>40464760
cereal are glorified junk food
1 serving is 30g and will leave you ravenous, plus no protein and all processed carbs. 1 serving of oats however will leave you satisfied and has decent protein content, be sure to get low sugar simple oats

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>>40467563
oh lol, weight

>>40467547

>'cause it's only 3.50
A carton of eggs is $1.50 thats T W E L V E (12) eggs so my breakfast is 13 cents.

>gets cooked for me
Making my breakfast takes literally 3 minutes, about the same time it takes to sit in a drive through waiting for your heart attack breakfast

You're wasting time, money, and calories because of muh convenience

>>40467591
But.. I'm still losing weight, and it's working for me, and I don't have to do dishes.

>>40459151
Hey /fit/. 5' 8" male who began his fitness path after Christmas. I weighed 185 lbs on that day and weigh 166 today. Halfway to the goal!

>>40467612
I mean its up to you man but I feel like relying on fast food and laziness is going to backfire eventually. Losing weight shouldn't be easy and it requires discipline. But that's just by two cents.

I fucked up, I didn't cross my TDEE but I can't eat more today. How do I manage the next 8 hours?

>>40467582
How did you handle that by the way? Whenever people ask me if I lost weight I always feel awkward

Anyone else know this feel?

>>40467626

Gonna make it. How did you lose so much weight in just two months that's impressive especially for a non super fatty

>>40467671
What happened?

Just drink a lot of water and if you feel like unbearably hungry eat like celery or carrots. Also go exercise.

>>40467553
Sounds good, how long and how much weight have you lost? If you don't track anything though, how do you know what to cut down on if you stall?

>>40467559
Lol, fats should be able to look at food and not be tempted. I love food porn, just better food than pizza.

>>40467591
It's their time money and calories, why so mad? Why not report on your own progress and breakfast instead, much more interesting.

>>40467626
Good job, anon, what have you been doing to achieve this?

>>40467691
Simply ate more than I should have

>>40467011
few strips of bacon and 3 eggs, amounted to 350 cals total

>>40467672
just told her how much weight i lost and that i'm still progressing, she congratulated me and wished me good luck

>>40467671
Water, broth, regrets.
Also, no one ever starved in 8 hours, anon, never ever. People who do IF routinely fast more daily. You can make it, it's a good lesson in managing your eating plan, you'll do better from here out.

>>40460390
>>40461874
Thanks Anons. Really appreciate it.

>>40465252
Loose skin is obviously there, most noticeable areas being my thighs and lower belly. I do tons of core work hoping I can fill it out with muscle and just get thick AF. But yeah don't ever let loose skin deter you. Especially if you have money for skin reduction. Definitely hit those weights hard. Lift heavy and mix in some hypertrophy grow big and strong. Don't listen to "you can't build muscle and lose fat at the same time" meme. That's utter non sense.

>>40467612
don't listen to that faggot, I have the Chicken Toasters at sonic occassionally with an extra chicken strip and I know they are good as fuck but still low calorie. It's a decently healthy treat, but you shouldn't be having more than one every other day or so.

>>40467713
>Sounds good, how long and how much weight have you lost? If you don't track anything though, how do you know what to cut down on if you stall?

Started at 204 a month and a half ago and now I am around 194. I used to count calories like obsessively so I know like approximates for almost everything I eat. I know I am eating well below TDEE and I have been losing weight pretty consistently each week so I don't worry too much about excessively tracking everything

>>40467683
>>40467713

I downloaded My Fitness Pal and set my goal for 1,800 calories a day, but soon changed it to 1,500. That way, if you go 100 over or something you don't have to feel bad about it. I'm cooking meals that will last me for a few days, like a big batch of beans and rice with veggies and mushrooms cooked into it. Eggs for smaller meals. If I know I'm going to have a night at the bar with my friends, I skip breakfast and lunch. Normally skip one meal a day anyway

20th jan 108kg, today 102. I left sugar, just eating lean meats and fuck ton of veggies...doing slow progress but safe cause i wont bounce back. Hiting the gym 4 days a week, we are going to make it

>Went to the gym for 2.5 hours today and did conditioning
Feels really good man.
>tire flips
>sled push
>sled pull
>sandbag carry
>farmers walk
really dead right now

>>40464524
I am sure it is fine, but safety wise I would only ever squat in a power cage or squat rack. That way if u fall or cannot make it to the weight holder the weight get caught instead of crushing me and justing my knees.

>>40465186
Vacation is what? One to two weeks?

As long as you don't go full retard binge mode there is no reason you cannot try some fun foods. Hell, say you will throw in one cheat snack a day or something if you are woried.

>>40467837
That's a good loss anon, sounds like you will do well, keep it up!

>>40467375
how about just eat healthy normal meals instead of trying to lose weight superfast with a diet that leaves you with not enough calories?

>>40468363
>>40467403
referenced the wrong post.

>>40460081
>Any suggestions on other weight routines?
Run 2 miles a day

realistically how much weight could someone who is 6'3" and just under 200lbs lose in 25 days. I generally don't eat unless it is a bowl of cereal for breakfast and I eat lunch at work which is a pure zero rockstar, small deli sandwich and a small bag of chips. Dinner varies but I tend to eat just a single serving unless I had a day off which I usually skip lunch. Last night I decided to start doing a rock lee style workout where I would do sit ups/ push ups based on what stage I got in SFV challenge mode and do one sit up / push up for each stage I got to, suffice it to say I have gotten to where I can do 12 consecutive pushups and barely anything considered to be a sit up because my gut is kind of in the way (skinny fat). I was also drunk and just getting off having a cold so I am factoring that in as well but I have always sucked at sit ups. One of the things I am going to start doing is running more, don't give a fuck if it is in the rain because I am sick and tired of having my stomach/ hips hurt if I try and put on shoes standing up or dry my legs off after a shower. Also this is my first post on /fit/ so I hope that it isn't too bad.

>tfw co-workers notice your weight loss

Feels good.

>>40468363
1200 calories is plenty, I'm female with small frame.

>>40468589
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>>40468528
I'd say 10 pounds tops realistically.

Drastically if you stopped eating for 25 days you could lose 40 pounds at the risk of nutrition deficiency. It's all about calories in and calories out. 10% of weight loss is exercise.

>>40460081
Add cardio but probably low-impact to spare your joints stress until you lose more. As high intensity as you can sustain and every day is fine, you don't need rest days from cardio unless you want them. But diet will do the most for you always.

Lost 20lbs in 2 months this year so far. Doing keto+20hr fast+ECA stack. Still not pissing full red on the ketosticks but the weight keeps dropping while I'm chugging water nonstop all day so I can't complain too much.

>>40468614
Haha, my home address is /thinspo/ on /fa/ but I peek in /fit/ sometimes, /cgl/ too.

Is there any way to accurately measure my calories burned doing cardio?

My exercise bike says I burned over 400 calories by cycling for half an hour, which is clearly bullshit

>>40468528
Your BMI is normal, why do you want to quick drop a lot of weight? It sounds like you are just really out of shape.

any tips for bodyweight training?

no access to a gym here and weights so yeah im sticking to that for the time being

>>40468721
You should never count calories burned, ever. Just eat the same healthy amount of calories ever day.

You don't need to eat more calories because you burned more.

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>>40468745

>>40468745
i dunno if it's working, 'cause I'm obese

but I've been doing pull ups, push ups, planks and jump squats.

i could probably work in burpees or something, but I'm already lazy about the jump squats 'cause I hate cardio.

>>40460048
You get used to looking at yourself, progress can only be seen from another person's standpoint.

>>40468688
i hope you realize that being anorexic is as shitty as being fat.

I've been failing a lot but the thing is I've been using fasting so I keep losing weight. I'm stepping in the gym next week to lift weights, I'm just doing cardio to get the courage to even go and lift weights...

But yeah I fast and I eat only on a ~2h window from ~8pm to 10pm, and if I run I only eat like a protein shake, come back and make a huge fucking diner, I'll do mostly the same when I lift.

From the info I gathered there's no huge benefits and I don't believe too much in diet bullshit, but the thing is, it makes me work on my discipline and I can only fuck up so much. I cannot physically overeat if I eat on a 2 hour span because I don't have a huge stomach, I just eat shit and constantly.

Anyone ever fasted here?

>>40468630
I was thinking it would be around there but wasn't sure if there was some sort of diet or workout routine that would focus on getting my gut down a little bit more.
>>40468725
I used to be like around 150-170lbs a few years ago, my metabolisum has slowed down and I had been eating more snack foods and since I was out of High School I don't have PE anymore so the most exercise I get is riding my bike to and from work / college. It isn't really the weight that I am concerned about mainly just that my gut and thighs are kind of big and I want to fix it as much as I can with the time I have left.

>>40468215
>Hell, say you will throw in one cheat snack a day or something if you are woried.
Yeah, this makes sense. Yesterday I was upset that my Dad brought pizza home for dinner but then after putting it into my food calculator I was still far from the amount of calories I was recommended to lose weight. So one bad snack a day won't do much harm.

ayy lmao

>>40459203
Have a cheat day or cheat meal once a month, it does wonders in terms of keeping you on track.

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>>40467011
Usually just bran flakes with skimmed milk here

>>40468745
If you can find a copy convict conditioning has some solid movements, and the early ones are very easy for anyone to start (like wall pushups etc) if they're really unfit, just ignore the self help crap in the beginning of the book.

I just got a treadmill and I'm just starting to use it, is half an hour at a time a good place to start or should I do less or more?

Guys I fucking love beer, am I fucked?

>>40468954
iktfb

I try to only drink 3/7 days a week
and never over a six pack.

and I always try to make sure i have it all factored in to my calorie allowance.

>>40468811
Do a little research before posting, it saves you from looking stupid. Thinspo is merely thin and inspiration combined. Anorexics use it but so do many other people who just like a thin aesthetic. I like fitspo too, am I an exercise junkie? No.

I'm only interested in getting to my lowest healthy weight, not lower. And being fit.

I hope you realize how presumptuous it is to assume things about others when you yourself are sitting in a place of ignorance.

If I eat right, exercise right and then once a month cheat, will I undo everything?

By cheating, I mean a retarded cheat. 1kg of chocolate. No, I'm not joking.

>>40469060

You won't but what the fuck

>>40468812
There is a lot of diet bullshit out there but what's good is whatever decently healthy eating method you can maintain that lets you lose weight. The diet factor IS the most important thing but there's just too much hype. I'm looking into some fasting too. There are several kinds of fasting though so I'm going to just read up and then test a few out.

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Nobody answered my fasting post.

>>40468954
It's empty calories and lots of carbs and people tend to cheat when they drink so...maybe?
Depends how much you plan to drink and what your calorie allowance is for weight loss. If you can go HAM on your dieting, only eat healthy food and arent trying to do low carb, maybe a few a week will be ok? Or just go on the wagon until you are at or close to your weight goal, then add it back.

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>>40469045
>barely eating and not excersizing
>being fit
Select 1

>>40469045
the thinspo thread is full of poster that are going below a healthy weight, you can see that by just checking it out for 5 minutes, and calculating a couple bmis. And whats even worse about it is that they get praise for being severely underweight.
You can try to deny it all you want but that thread is cancer.

>>40469185
1200/day is fine for my diet, I'm a 5'7 female with a small frame and I exercise. Take your own advice about posting because you clearly have an unhealthy interest on my posts here when I'm only speaking and asking questions on my own interests, not making any statements about the business or behavior of others. You just sound like a triggered mad fatty who read 'thinspo' and flipped your shit.

Better to concentrate more on your success in your own program and hop off my dick.

>>40469227
So don't go there? That's very easy right?
I've stated that my own goal is my own lowest healthy weight. The posts there help me because I'm interested in IF and I've gotten much better info on it there than anywhere on /fit/. The photos are better to me than seeing pizzas and the 'what did you eat today' meals of fruits, veg and proteins inspire me more than posts here about chicken wings and Sonic sandwiches.
To each their own, right?

I've been cutting at 1300cal and working out about 4 times a week for the last 3 weeks, but I haven't lost any weight. Am I fucking up somewhere or do I just need to be more patient?
5'7 180lbs if it matters

>>40469264
>female
>hop off my dick
???

>247 lbs
>5'11

Eat 'healthier' and avoid eating too much.

>248 lbs next week

i might as well just eat pizza all day then.. wtf

I lift weights though, or started to recently. I can do about 140 for bench pressing right now. Started about a month ago.

I feel a bit better, like less bloated since eating less/healthier, but i want to lose weight to be skinnier, I still have a huge gut.

>>40469344
>/fit/

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>>40462813
>>40463995

You guys are right about the Tea
Thanks for the tip

>>40469317
You are awfully defensive about the whole thing, carefully avoided not posting your weight and mentioned you wanna eat only 500kcal a day. I don't care what you do in the thinspo thread but if you come here i will tell you that this isn't healthy and that being anorexic is equally as bad as being fat.
I really don't care what you do with your body, but i don't want others that come here to do retarded shit because they read about eating only 500kcal a day.

>>40469344
It's a saying, anon, like saying 'eat a bag of dicks'. Do you only say that to a straight girl or a gay man? No, it's an all purpose insult.
But funny that you stuck on that of all else I posted.

>>40459443
Blaha has never acomplished anything

>>40459595
Utter bullshit.

>be fatty all my life (6'2)
>decide to finally lose weight in undergrad
>go from 230lbs, no muscle to 180lbs, even less muscle
>just eating way below deficit and running
>fell in love with distance running
>also rock climbing but that's for later
>get up to 30 miles/week
>decide to get over breakup by running a distance I wasn't ready for
>best high of my life after that
>but I couldn't bend my knee for a week
>stop running, gain some weight
>start lifting with co-worker
>get mires, but weight keeps going up
>lie to myself, say I'm just bulking
>hit 255lbs of decent muscle, but huge gut and sides
>been cutting, down to 225 but kinda stalling
>try to get back into running multiple times over the years
>always go too far, too fast and I've starts acting up
>start c25k, day 1 workout
>feel good, excited to run again tonight and get back to my old progress

I'm also getting back into rock climbing, too, which needs me to get under 200 to start really getting good. I'd rather be smaller and not fat than bigger/stronger with and a permabulking fatty. Hell, maybe I'll still have some muscle on me if I get my protein in. Running at sunsets made me feel good, and I want to capture that again.

>>40464637
You'll lose em eventually, as I have. Keep it up.

>>40469400
My weight is slightly above normal for my height currently.

I was discussing types of eating plans.
5:2 Intermittent fasting is eating 500-600 calories 2 days of the week and a regular healthy diet the other 5 days. Not 500 calories per day, every day.

A 1200 calorie daily diet is within acceptable range for someone my height and frame.
Nowhere did I imply or say anything else, please get your reading straight.
I also was discussing my own plan options, not advising anyone else. Though I don't think anyone here is in any immediate danger of anorexia regardless. Also you are not the guardian of the fatty thread so mind your business.

This might be the wrong place to post, sorry if that is the case. So poor fag here im alright but my mother who has arthritis in her knees, ossification of tendons in one of her hands, and arthritis in both wrists, isnt. we have seen the doctor and of the many things he told us one was that she needed to loose weight. She is 53 5'4 and 220. I have seen what she eats and it is not a lot or is it high in carbs and the likes, but i am still going to get her started on a food journal so she can see how much she takes in a day. I wanted to know if anyone had any good ideas on a program that she could do. I already have her drinking a lot of water, and from what i searched on the internet a lot of what they say is stuff she doesnt have acess to. She only has dumbells and barbells so im not sure.

Can anyone give me a quick rundown on if diet iced tea is a bad drink? It's all I ever drink besides water, and that's even only sometimes. Obviously it's zero calories but the kind I drink uses aspartame for sweetener. Any issues?

>>40469159
Because few people here know much of anything about fasting. Which one was your question? I'll try to point you to some links, I'm barely starting to research but I'm interested in IF it so that's the best I've got.

>>40469607
Some people talk about sweetners and cancer links I think but that's about all.

>>40469626
So otherwise it shouldn't fuck up my diet and weight loss? Like I said it's zero calorie obviously

>>40469643
Some people meme about it making you hungrier or something? I don't believe it, when I rarely drink soda I make sure it's diet.

>>40469607
There have been many studies on it for decades and people still squabble about it. Some people report bad effects, some drink gallons with no ill effect.
Common middle-of-the-road opinion on it is 'fine sometimes if it doesn't bother you but not every day'.

>>40469621
Well, I don't have much info but giving you hopes that it helps.

It was basically just to spark a discussion. I'm still uncertain how to arrange my schedule with fasting, but as of right now eating at 8pm means I don't feel sleepy during the day due to digesting and I can go to the gym late. Pretty much perfect for me.

I never realized how much digesting makes you sleepy now that I don't eat all day.

>>40461889

What matters the most is the week progress. Do what said >>40467043 if you ate too much in a day discount in the other that way you can still go out and have progress

>>40469587
Diet is most important so start here http://www.arthritis.org/living-with-arthritis/arthritis-diet/losing-weight/

>>40469687
I've never been "bothered" by drinking diet tea but I'm not really sure what that's supposed to mean. I drink it sometimes at night while playing vidya or watching TV. Not a ton maybe a quarter gallon at absolute most at one time. I've never noticed it making me hungry or any shit like that. The caffeine is nice though.

>>40469322
Fucking up somewhere in your diet, doubt you're consuming that little.

>>40469345
Use some measurements, at least measure waist/gut in cm. The scale isn't always a good metric to measure your progress if you are losing fat but also gaining some muscle.

Hi there guys. Posting for the first time ever, please excuse my total ignorance...I'm only just starting out here and still trying to learn. (This General seems great though, you guys are all helpful bros with a dose of realism without being assholes)

So here's my confusion.
Obviously, I will lose weight eating at a caloric deficit. But my question is how much of a difference it makes to my body shape/composition depending on what those calories actually ARE.

Example. I have 100 calories worth of cake or 200 calories worth of whole wheat brown bread. Eating the cake is less calories, but clearly the bread is the "healthier" choice between the two.

If I eat below my TDEE/BMR no matter what, how important are the foods themselves? If I eat at a deficit But all my calories come from fast food or snack items or cookies or whatever, will I still lose a normal amount of fat, have a flat stomach, etc? Or will sugary junk foods leave me pudgy and in skinnyfat mode - technically normal/underweight but still soft and flabby everywhere (pudgy stomach, flabby butt, etc) ?

Obviously I'm using hyperbole as an example and don't GENUINELY intend to eat this way, but I just needed the easiest example to ask you guys.

tl;dr - What difference will eating ~1500 caps worth of sugary junk food vs eating ~1500-2000 caps of healthy real foods do to my body when it comes to shape, fat distribution, body composition, etc?

Thanks so much guys.

>>40469723
thank you so much anon

>>40469443
It's not bullshit.

>>40469799
A quart a day might be a little much. Maybe try one sweetened with stevia? Or cut it with unsweetened tea for a less-sweet tea?
Some people get migraines and have other symptoms from aspartame-sweetened drinks. Others are fine.

>>40469802
I'll reevaluate what I'm eating, thanks anon!

>>40469840
>Example. I have 100 calories worth of cake or 200 calories worth of whole wheat brown bread. Eating the cake is less calories, but clearly the bread is the "healthier" choice between the two.
>If I eat below my TDEE/BMR no matter what, how important are the foods themselves?
Calories in are all that matters for real size. You could get fat if you somehow ate 4000 calories of salad a day.
The big thing is eating 1500calories of junk will leave you hungrier than a proper diet, so you're more likely to fuck up. Not to mention the lack of good vitamins, fibre, protein etc. Protein especially is important for muscle if you're doing any kind of strength training.

>>40469607
Artificial no calorie sweeteners have no side affect, it's okay

>>40469846
YVW! There's an exercise section on the site with videos too. Let us know how she fares, anon, we will all be that age some day, I hope she gets fit!

>>40469852
Not a day, that mark was just my absolute most at one sitting at any time. I usually go through about a gallon a week, give or take.

I'm only concerned about it stopping weight loss, so as long as it won't do that I'm not really concerned with other effects as I've never noticed any.

>>40469840
>But my question is how much of a difference it makes to my body shape/composition depending on what those calories actually ARE.
If you eat no protein, you'll lose muscle and gain fat.
If you get enough protein, but low carbs, your performance will be low in training.
If you get enough protein and enough carbs, but not fat, you'll get hormone issues.
If you get enough protein and carbs and fat, but no minerals and vitamins and shit, you'll get sick often.
You'll also feel shit if you eat shit foods, and you'll feel better if you eat whole/non-processed foods.

Don't use a TDEE calculator, adjust your intake based on what you currently take in and go from there.

>>40469876
Thanks breh

>>40469840
Junk food is less filling and you have little to no control over nutrients, vitamins and fibers in your diet

Also a calorie deficit is good and all but there's a reason people exercise as well, to maintain or promote muscle growth as it's your muscles which are burning those calories daily. Your body if given a shitty diet and time but low in calories can decide to just lower your metabolism by killing off muscle if you aren't using it. So it's important to exercise and get a good diet of protein carbs and fats. Less you simply turn into a small fat versus a lean string bean of a human.

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>>40469840
Some guidelines:

Eating a calorie surplus of no-matter-what will translate to gaining weight.

Eating a calorie deficit of no-matter-what will translate to losing weight.

Clean eating is always better than dirty eating.

Now, if you want a discussion of what's better to eat: more protein vs. more fat vs. more carbs equals to asking for memetic advice. Personally, I just stick to avoiding breads and pastas, since I prefer to get my carbs from whole foods. Not having enough carbs/protein/fat will make you feel miserable for a plethora of reasons, so don't fall for any meme-diets that call for not consuming any of these three.

The shape is defined by exercise and genetic predisposition, not diet.

>>40469883
That seems fine to me. Your calorie intake matters the most in weight loss.

>>40469840
If you lose weight eating more junk, you'll likely end up skinnyfat. People who eat more wholesome foods and also exercise will have more muscle less fat so end up looking less flabby.
But if you don't eat under your calorie needs you'll stay fat so if you cheat with unhealthy foods at first but stay under, it might get you on the path to losing and you can just improve your diet gradually as you go along.

>>40469687
I'm not sure how mine will go, I want to test OMAD and 5:2. With my OMAD test, I'm thinking of eating midday to early afternoon for easiest fasting for me. I don't wake hungry but I like a big lunch. If I eat too late, I get heartburn at bedtime but I don't like to sleep on a totally empty stomach either.
How long have you been doing it and how are your results so far?

I like this kind of threads
5'8 Started at 270 or so , now i am at 176. I went down to 167 but gained muscle weight and a little bit of fat.

>>40459404
Do you have any baggy skin?

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>tfw protein shits and fibre farts

>>40470291
Care to share your story briefly? I'm about the same height but only 230ish and would like to get down to your current weight range

>>40468767
>stretching before lifting
stopped reading right there

>>40467011
wheat wholegrain bread with soy and wheat protein, it's like 25%p/12%c/10%f

>>40468869
>literally eating a bowl of carbs with some fiber
why even eat?

>>40470400
spirulina

>>40470556
It's high fibre, vitamin enriched, and 10% protein by weight anon. I enjoy it too.

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>tfw free donuts at work

Took the plain one in the middle.
Be better than me

>>40471192
190 calories. lot of carbs. you'll be okay

>>40470400
This is too relatable

So my TDEE is about 2400 calories. I slightly under estimated my height but it doesn't make a huge difference in the result.

How many calories should I am for? I'm obviously trying to lose fat. Not interested in lift and gaining muscle at the time.

>>40471487
Never mind, I found lower on the page it suggests going to 500 calories less than your TDEE. Have you bros found this to be pretty accurate for success?

Also need a new thread, at the bump limit here

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NEW THREAD

>>40471120
>>40471120
>>40471120

Anyone know a public place in America with a public access scale? I've been weighing on one at home, and it tells me 240 every time, even after dieting for 3 weeks. Then I go weigh myself at school on the scale they have next to their gym, and it tells me 204.

I'm 5'11, so this is a pretty huge difference.