Any intellectual brahs out there?

>>40416685
anybody who calls them selves an intellectual is a fucking loser.

>>40416733

>anybody who calls them selves an intellectual is a fucking loser.

You must be fun at parties, KEK

medic, but im a manlet and have terrible insertions - so might as well give up on life

>>40417115
>intellectual
>medic
chose one

>>40416685
He's an engineer, hardly a "math professor".

>>40417173

Engineer is still intellectual as fuck, he proly makes good money


Anyways /fit/

Are there any of you that are hot or aesthetic engineer majors/engineers?

Post pics

>>40416685
Where is his dick?

>>40416685
he's got a pretty small package to not make some kinda bulge there.

>>40417181
>Engineer is still intellectual as fuck
BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHA
back to /x/

>>40417168
doctors are seen as pretty intellectual where i come from

>>40417181
I study comp eng but don't know how posting a pic is relevant.

>>40417206
I'm a "business" major so I've always viewed engineers as really smart. Are you saying that's not true? Those dudes have to take full sequence calculus, different equators, linear algebra, 3 years physic, all that.

Law with Criminology student here.
The course is difficult as fuck but no one sees us as intellectuals, more like greedy cunts.

Regardless Law school is second when it comes to qts, Business/Marketing being the first.
>tfw school of business students throw a party
MUH DICK

>>40417344
I've got friends that are top of their class, interviewed with all the top business firms. They told me there is never a shortage super model-like qts in all those firms...and something tells me it isn't because of great interpersonal skills and 3.9 GPAs

>Get Stem degree
>Get big af
>????
>Winning

>>40417181
>>40417216
>>40417238

STEM is not intellectual. Anyone can learn math and logical thinking. True intellectuals are economists, analysts, artists, musicologists etc.

>>40417238
There are intelligent people and stupid people in every field, I imagine. As long as someone is motivated to learn something, the only thing that matters is putting in the time to understand whatever it is.
t. Engineer

Also, I'm hating how people are throwing around the word intellectual -- it doesn't mean smart, it means someone interest in things regarding intellect like reading, chess, classical music, etc. Fuck intellectuals.

>>40416733
This guy is right on the money.

>>40417216
>seen
That's the whole point, everyone thinks that since medicine is co competitive it's extremely difficult. When it's literally stamp collection tier. Average IQ is around 110 compared to math/physic degree which is around 130.

>>40417238
Just take a look at /sci/, engineers are pretty much considered as a joke and a baby science.
Here's an example for how they are viewed:

Oh, is the professor a mathematician? I love stories about mathematicians teaching courses for non-mathematicians (non-mathematician, synonym of brainlet).

I have one too.

In the past the mathematics department taught calculus classes to ALL the engineers. Some were soft, but my Calc 3 professor is now in the history books for how he would fuck them over. His course is incredibly hard, even for mathematicians but for mathematicians he has a near 100% pass rate as we all can figure out a way through. But why is he in the history books? Because almost every fucking engineer would fail his class many times. He was Trump's wall and engineers were mexicans. But it had a sad ending. This made the administration very concerned about mathematicians teaching outside of their department and after many attempts to call out this Calc 3 professor to make him dumb down his shit, the administration popped. Now the engineering departments has their own calculus professor for all levels. Calc I, II and III taught by engineers.

Fucking amazing, what a legend. And from what I know from my engineer friends, this happens:

>No definition of limits
>Barely any work with limits
>No definition of the integral
>Barely any series
>Calc 3 mixes calculus and linear algebra, dumbing down both as they have no full linear algebra course so they have to cover all they can in calc 3.
>50% of the engineering students STILL fail.

The guy is famous. I wish to be like him in the future but now they don't let mathematicians teach engineers lol. Maybe if I find another university to teach at I could do it.

>>40417540
You'd love the business calc class I had to take then.

They squeezed in parts of Calc 1, 2, and 3 in one semester. We started with limits, then derivatives, then definite/indefinite integrals, then partial derivatives. I had no idea what I was doing and used Wolfram Alpha for more than 90% of our assignments. My professor has a Masters in Applied Physics from Cal-Tech so he'd always remind us that the way we're doing things wasn't the correct way.

>>40417484
>economists

Lol

Also upper level mathematics like analysis and algebra is mostly abstract thinking.

>>40417521
Lol no, thanks for the laugh though.

>>40417671
Give me an example where doctors use hard logic? It's all memorization and nothing more.

>>40417540
>no limits

And I thought engineering was for tough people. Jesus.

>>40417703
You think your doctor remembers every presentation and diagnosis? Ofc not, they collect your history and work out the most likely diagnosis through logical reasoning

These shows how unconnected with society are math majors, since they think engineers are stupid lol, probably think the rest of the society is brain retarded

I had to deal with really stupid people in my work and hobby, and I would easily choose an engineer as a intelligent guy compared with the rest 99.99% of society seriously

>>40417757
So using common sense is an intense logical process?
Compare them to mathematicians or physicists which blow them out of the water when talking about intellectual depth.

>>40417181
>Engineer is still intellectual as fuck

engineers round pi to 3

it's basically applied applied maths

the only engineers I respect are electrical engineers because they're basically engineers who also need to know a decent amount of high level math

t. physics phd

>>40417774

These threads*

I'm a grad student in financial engineering and I'm pretty fit

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>>40417774
engineers, truly the master race

>>40417757
Yes, middle-school tier logical reasoning plus memorization

>>40417776
Well you can go only as deep as the subject field allows you to, clearly there's a limit with human physiology and disease pathology however to say it is common sense is pretty ignorant. But I'll take your hit, medicine is not nearly as difficult as people make it out to be.

Engineers are usually more well rounded, most engineers have a lot of hobbies and then of be jack of all trades people

Math and Physics majors usually jump in these threads to make themselves feel better about their very specific set of skills, usually play chess and do powerlifting with really shitty form and look dyel

I'm a pharmacist. Do I get any love?

>>40417819
Oh man, sucks to be you.

>>40417818

and tend to be *

>>40417776
true, but doctors, at least surgeons but certainly to a lesser extent many other kinds, must have a pretty fucking intense skill level to do what they do. i think that as respectable as deep reasoning

also, anesthesiologists x-ray engineers and shit like that must have to do a lot of calculating and critical thinking

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>>40417818
Say it to my face.

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>>40417540
Faggy elitism

Math isn't some magical skill only fit for mathematician

Math feels like your studying grammer

Engineers are practical
Abstract mathematical theories get annoying when all you want to do is design some robots and bridges.

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>>40416685
>gets a PhD in engineering
>all the while maintaining a succesful modelling career
>90% of /fit/ thats easy as shit lmao

>>40417501
fuck you have against classical music, dog
some of the most beautiful shit in the world right there

>>40417521
100% this. Medicine is full of average people who work insanely hard.

>>40417832
> pretty fucking intense skill level to do what they do
You've basically described every job.

> to do a lot of calculating
Wtf does that even mean.

>>40417845
>Abstract mathematical theories get annoying when all you want to do is design some robots
and bridges.
brainlet detected

>>40417845
>Math feels like your studying grammer
I see that you haven't studied either

>Abstract mathematical theories get annoying when all you want to do is design some robots and bridges.
enjoy building bridges that fall down and robots that don't work because you can't solve a simple ODE

>>40417873
>Math feels like your studying grammer
>I see that you haven't studied either

o shit

few med school rejects in this thread kek

>>40417484
b8

>>40417868
>You've basically described every job.
cutting and sewing the flesh of a living creature with incredible precision is certainly not what i would describe as ordinary

>>40417873
Nigga, you better learn to solve PDEs numerically with FEA or Finite Difference.

>>40417873
You might as well do philosophy
You're so superior

>>40417896
>with incredible precision
It's basically carpentry. Cardiac and neurosurgeons are the only respectable ones. Those are physical skills though, and not intellectual ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9NrKylKMIY

>>40417101
>You must be fun at parties
>>>facebook

>>40417540
Dude, our Mathematics department taught out engineering calc.

Yeah, the work is different. But we have to solve real actual problems... not make some new mathematical theory in our careers.

Although I did take a Graduate level Partial diff eq course for my Mech eng Masters - like what the graduate math students take, and it was just proving and showing shit, hardly any real problem solving... mainly because of the nature of the subject.

Got a B in it though...

>>40417540
how's the job market?

>>40417946
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2607096/Time-career-change-How-reporter-MORE-stressful-worse-career-prospects-garbage-collector.html

>>40417540
Departments/Courses rivalry is one of the dumbest shit that you can stumble upon in college. Had a teacher like that and he was the bitterest guy I ever knew. Good life goal there.

>>40417777
>claims to be physics PhD
>doesn't even round pi to 3
>somehow gets quads anyway

>>40417540
>In the past the mathematics department taught calculus classes to ALL the engineers
If you go to a school where the math department isn't teaching the engineering department or comp sci department or all other STEM departments their math, you went to a shit school.

I can't even think of a halfway decent school where this is not the case.

I went to a school where the math program was considered to be one of the top ten most rigorous programs in the country (US, so probably about the top 15 in the world), and every single regular math course for all the STEM people were taught by the same professors, same classes (e.g. you could have DiffE where a third of the room were engineering, a third physics, a third math majors; although most likely it was like 75% a mix of eng/CS and 25% a mix of all other STEM).

Likewise with physics classes, etc.

The only department that got special ed. math at my particular school was probably architecture.

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>>40416685

>tfw cs major math minor making over $10k per month interning

I'm guessing this cuck doesn't even make six figures

Well I'm a uni student with a 4.0 GPA but a <135 bench
Do I count?
(bench is 130 lbs)

>>40417777
You are actually retarded.

Also, you are extra special retarded for thinking EE's "need to know a decent amount of high level math." Yes, my focus did use PDE's pretty often (RF/microwave/optics in EE), but I took the same exact math classes as practically every STEM major: up to DiffE with Lin Alg. It's not that special.

Did education go to shit in the last few years or something? Because I see a lot of you retards claiming so much shit that just was not the case in any school I can think of.

Then again, all you retards are still in school.

I was Human Intelligence for 6 years in the US Army and at this point speak 5 languages, several more if you count different dialects of Arabic individually. Unfortunately, I have a pretty high hairline. I was born with it and it's not receding, but it still brings me great shame.

>>40417540
Dude what sort've shit school did you go to?

I go to a top 5 Engineering school and a top 20 Math/Physics school and honestly Math/Physics classes were the ones where I improved my GPA. I think I had a 3.4ish on engineering classes and a 3.8ish on Math/Physics classes.

I strongly considered changing majors(and I still do sometimes think about it) because it was so easy.

Kek

>>40418027
What's your work/specialisation like? Would you recommend it?

t. Electrical Engineering student

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>>40417922
Neuro isn't that hard either.
Every field of medicine... Rather Every discipline and field of study are easy when it is all you do.
If you are that concerned with "knowing more" or " look at me im smurter bc my work is hharder" then your issue may not like in the field but in the inadequcies of oneself.

But what do I know I'm just some dumb pre-med who's never gonna do anything beyond General Science that's needed to get into med school.

Reguardless, I know in some way, shape or form, we're all gonna make it.

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>>40417238

>different equators

>>40417484

economics is a joke, they try to act like meteorologists, but they're even more inaccurate.

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>tfw BS in chem eng and applied math
>tfw master in finance
>tfw best of both worlds
>tfw /sci/ was the real trojan horse all along and /pol was just a whipping boy

>>40418129
what?

>>40417540
what joke of a school did you go to?

there were no "engineering" math classes here, calc I, II, III, diffeq, and lin alg was taken by math majors and eng majors in the same room

>No definition of limits
>Barely any work with limits
>No definition of the integral
>Barely any series

again, what joke of a school did you go to?

>>40417987
this, any decent school will have this arrangement

>>40418059
my math requirements were definitely much easier than my engineering classes at that time, not due to the material itself but because the pacing/workload is much more reasonable

>>40417484
almost believable until musicologists

>>40418129
>tfw BS in chem eng

AYYYYYYYYY

First person I've met who does Chemical Engineering.

What do you work as? I do contract work for Oil & Gas companies. Thinking about leaving it since it's a lot of traveling.

You get your masters immediately after college?

>>40416685
One year out from a PhD in math. By then I'll hit 1/2/3/4, only started lifting a year ago.

>>40417181
Im almost done with my BS in geophysics.

>>40417540
>Teacher is proud that he fails students because he thinks math> everything
Good life goal.

Hate people like this. Math should be taught as easy as possible. No point in learning a theorem or a proof or "by the book" when structured equations + examples can teach you so much more. Get off your high horse faggot.

Engineering isn't difficult? Is that why its one of the biggest majors that most people switch out of and the lowest % of people obtaining that degree?

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>tfw I make math memes for /sci/ even though I'm just a physicist

>>40417777
>Phd in physics

LOL Youre even more useless

How does it feel eating lunch and doing work at the same time in hopes of making deadlines so a small percentage of people can read your shitty findings that will probably be overturned in the near foreseeable future?

>>40417819
You guys are usually well paid and work great hours. Tbh would love to have a stable job like yours plus i bet a lot of cuties as well.

People just salty in this thread because they think a master degree will earn them a fuck ton of money when in reality it will on get them a mediocre desk job that will be 10x more stressfull than when they were sucking their professors cock and doing their errands

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>>40418384
>somebody does something
>"haha how does it feel that your thing is useless xdd"

>>40418384
but I don't do any of those things

>>40418382
i'm glad there's someone autistic enough to do this stuff

>>40417873
LOL ODEs and PDEs aren't abstract at all nice projection m8. Shits basic calcuations once you learn the steps.

Theoretical Linear Algebra and actual theoretical class are complete ass and aren't used by the general public when constructing structures or robots.

>>40418027
>differential equations and linear algebra
Third world country here, we take those subjects in 3rd semester, you have nothing to boast about.

>>40418006
Filthy fucking casual.

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>>40417540
actually I can relate to this
>be empowered spic in engineering major
>go to tutoring for a math class
>someone else is doing trig, and getting help with it
>I overheard the tutor say "sorry, I can't help in this part, I'm engineer, not mathmatician."
>wot.jpeg
>"let me ask a mathmatician for this haha"
I check the schedule of the tutors, and there was about 1 mathmatician, and the rest were eng-related majors

still rustles my jimmies

>>40418413
>Actually lives in a third world country

Go put some slices of banana on your rice you fucking peasant.

>>40418393
B-but hes right anon a phd in physics is pretty useless

>>40418413
>3rd semester
...who calls the first semester of their second year their third semester?

Anyways DiffEQ is really easy in terms of math classes.

Application in the real world is extremely difficult and knowledge of CS/Math engines become necessary almost immediately.

Plus since he's an EE I assume he does Fourier Series analysis with Linear Algebra. Which is difficult.

I always found math classes kind've a joke but the real world applications are tough as shit.

>>40418446
This

Most of the time the examples youre given in class are almost perfect examples that are easy and easy to work with. In real life its nothing close to that and thats why we use computers.

Basically learn everything the hard way, grind fucking through it and if you ever need it in life just plug into a program. GG

>>40418397
yes you do

>>40416685
I can't. I literally cannot compete with intelligent male models, because I'm neither highly intelligent or good-looking.

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>>40417540
Reminded of a conference I went to
>be at IGC special topics conference
>full of experimentalists as well as engineers
>be presenting about classification of topological defects and the QHE in Graphene
>talk of manifolds come up
>segue into exotic R4 and its connection to the geometrization conjecture as an aside
>an engineer in the audience raises his hands: "But anon, how do we visualize 4-dimensional space?"
>I said "That's simple. Just visualize an n-dimensional space and set n = 4."
>entire audience laughed, including the engineer that asked the question
>he invited me out to dinner later
>talked and drank until midnight
>turned out that any engineer worth their salt could take the piss out of themselves and are not so insecure that they'd be triggered by comments on the internet
>mfw this realization

>>40418510
How old are you?

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>>40418257
yeah my program went straight into it. I'm oil and gas too (gulf coast master race) but I may jump into chemical investment trading for the mad monetary gains if it doesn't require me to move

>tfw have to take all the chemistry and all the math that the pleb eng majors have to
>tfw have to do statics that mech does and circuits that elec does
>tfw lumped into engineering meme anyway

>>40418523
26. Why?

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>>40418532
Though so

Yeah youre not fit. Wrong board old man.
>

>>40418558
Why are you projecting so hard anon? Who hurt you?

>>40418574
implying im wrong m8

>>40418027
>You are actually retarded.
Quads negates

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>>40418581
>[autistic screeching]
This is you, anon.

>>40418592
>calls someone autistic
>posts anime.

Any architects or architecture students here?


>>40418057
That's pretty cool that you can speak multiple dialects, I'm an Arab born in the states and I only understand the dialect of my family(Palestinian)

>>40418626
Aw damn, I don't actually speak that. I know MSA, Iraqi, Egyptian, and Sudanese, none of which are very practical

>>40418658
If you work in an intelligence agency all of those are extremely practical lol

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I'm still an undergraduate two years into studying Classics and Biology for this reason. It will be nice to have realized my personal agency and arete while many of my friends and the people I meet are still floundering around. What people don't realize is much of their lives are based on myths and wishful thinking while very few will ever transcend the plotted matrix of our their oligarchic masters. They'll anticipate love happening to them and settle for less without realizing it, or they're born rich and can afford to incubate in mediocrity before some stroke of tragedy propels them downwards in class.

I look forward to, in a few years, having both body and brains; but most likely by then I'll have given up on dating and settled into some kind of career than enables me to hire decent escorts every few weeks while I slave for a six-figure paycheck and gloat over having achieved what will inevitably amount to nothing as I'm forgotten in the shroud of anachronism and distant history.

If any of your bros want to keep in touch, motivate one another, etc (no homo) add me on snapchat ---> innatelybeing

>>40418709
To you, sure. I'm a civilian now though. If I wanted to impress an agency I'd pick up Levantine dialect real quick. In my life though, I don't exactly plan on visiting Iraq or Sudan for funsies. MSA is good for the news or printed materials, but nobody speaks it at any dinner table.

I majored in math and used to think i was super patrician 'til I made it to 4th year and found myself surrounded by people who were orders of magnitude smarter than me who at the same time didn't build their self esteem around being better than non-math people. It's a really interesting subject, but not because it's hard. You'll plateau if you don't outgrow your egoism.

Also it's especially annoying when people shit on engineers for being brainlets. It's not the hardest thing in the world, but you wouldn't call Magnus Carlsen a retard for not playing Go. Also, engineers are just super useful in general and no one can deny that. If the population shrunk to 100,000 overnight, we'd need engineers, not mathematicians. The difficulty of what you do doesn't matter, the most important thing is making a meaningful contribution to the world around you.

Anyways, there were a couple hunks in my Math dept. but I think they were all too far down the math rabbit-hole to go down the hedonism rabbit-hole.

i analyze dynamical systems, specifically space systems
i use control and estimation theory to guide and point spacecrafts

im not that smart though

>>40418399
I have a lot more

>>40418728
Shut up faggot. You sound like an ass and a bore.

>>40417540

>No definition of limits
>Barely any work with limits
>No definition of the integral
>Barely any series
>Calc 3 mixes calculus and linear algebra, dumbing down both as they have no full linear algebra course so they have to cover all they can in calc 3.

Maybe next time don't go to a school for retards, you fucking brainlet

>>40416733
Same with people who brag about their IQ

If you need to tell people how intelligent you are, you probably aren't.

>Tfw fell for the engineering meme

Don't become an engineer, you'll hate you're life. It's just another shitty office job.

>>40416685
Lol he teaches at my uni and I've seen him numerous times in our uni gym. Cool guy

>>40419381
pretty sure he doesnt teach anymore

>>40419394
Oh my bad, think you're right. Still comes to our uni gym though, saw him there two weeks ago now

>>40417777
what was your dissertation?

>>40419371
depends on the type of engineering

i think computer science is fun

my bud enjoys his life as an aerospace engineer

my other friend enjoys testing the limits of huge ass large fans as an EE

>>40417777
Electrical engineers can't even do a fucking Fourier transform, get out of here with that shit.

>tfw engineering physics

Feels good to be on top. But seriously, if you can't work with people it doesn't matter fucking dick how smart you are. I know several engineering students that would be completely unworkable in projects because they just don't know how how to work with non-engineers.

The first step is to realize is that literally no non-engineer really gives a shit about your ideas, smart solutions or engineering in general.

>>40420273
Engineers have a hard time applying their knowledge to solutions that have already been tested and became the standards.
This is particularly true in small firms with a more flexible chain of command. Every faggot straight out of university will be trying to reinvent the wheel instead of using the same tools and solutions the rest of the industry does. This can lead to a very uncomfortable situation where management is forced to say no to an insistent engineer several times and everyone else is led to believe the engineer is a poor misunderstood genius who is having his creativity crushed by a stupid higher ups.

It's different from a programmer who will have that same attitude but on the first no he gets he will just autistically mumble to himself and get on with work. Engineers are more petulant and insubordinate.

>>40418382
>>40419201

It's weird i always heard quantization couldn't be exact, in the sense that the 3 conditions cannot be satisfied and you have to drop condition 3 for

if {a,b}=c then [A,B]=-ihC+some "small" error term

Like for weyl quantization for example the error term is an pseudo differential operator with order lower than the order of C.

Was i told lies all allong ?

i swear it feels like everyone on the internet is a engineer or a mathematician
I love reading these threads and looking at you fighting each other even though I don't understand murican educational system
please go on

>>40420440

Thats because everyone in engineering is autistic.

My uni in first cycle from 8-12 has around 300 freshmans and out of them I literally saw and now like 10 people who go to gym.

Even tho I dont consider myself a "le normie" i am a social demigod here.

Seeing all these autists made me see how I was being seen in HS and elementary.

>>40417238
to be fair, 90% of my friends are in engineering and get like high 50s to low 70s in every course they take. "C's get degrees" is the motto in Eng, lol... they also get bellcurved to shit because they don't want 90% of the class to fail. It's a common misconception, most engineers don't know jack diddly squat.

However, my bf is an engineer (comp eng with personal emphasis on sfwr - this means he literally codes from when he gets home from his co-op at 6pm to 4am in the morning) and he's an arrogant son of a bitch. Won't shut up about his stupid game. He doesn't talk to me about anything else. All he does is code. It's literally ruined our relationship.

>>40416733
This

Same with you faggots on here calling yourselves bodybuilders or that one guy with no job and a million failing pyramid schemes calling himself an entrepreneur

>>40417777
>engineers round pi to 3
no, we don't mate.
engineering and physics are pretty different disciplines, physics isn't "better" than engineering

>>40420162
>Done hundres of fourier transforms by hand the hard way during bachelor
>Haven't done a single one during my master so far

kek
I bet even the easiest would take me ages right now

>>40417847
this is why i can never take 4chan seriously.

>inb4 "kek! trying to take anime board seriously!"

you guys really are unauthentic 2 tha maxx.

>>40420583
>Even tho I dont consider myself a "le normie" i am a social demigod here.

Maybe that is the reason..I am definitely a normie by /fit/ standards, I even study sports and PED ffs
But I don't know man, saying engineering=autism feels kinda rough, makes me feel like I am mocking people that have greater capacity than me

Economics and Finance students are much more intellectual and useful than Math and Physics majors which partake in obscure edgy equations so they can feel smart.

>>40420850
Tell me about it. I'm 8 months into an internship, and I can just feel all my math skills draining away every day.

>>40417540
Engineers being stupid is a meme

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>>40420323
That's actually part of the proof for why a Hermitian line bundle is necessary and sufficient for a symplectic manifold is prequantizable. The extra terms come from the Lie flow generated by the commutator. You can absorb this term into the definition of the connection on the bundle, which makes it a line bundle, and the requirement of Hermiticity comes from the fact that sections of this bundle must form a Hilbert space.

>>40418004
Most academics aren't in it for the money you retard. It's for the love of the subject